[Archive] Gran Turismo World Series Thread

[jimihemmy]

Unsurprisingly Daytona in trucks is a mess. But I’ll tell you what I really don’t like is when you bump draft someone for 2 laps and then, when they get it wrong and you have to overtake, they pit maneuver you at the next available opportunity.

Disgusted.

Maybe they don't know about bump drafting and thought you were just tapping them and issued payback.....
I agree with your sentiment though.

 

[CamGearz]

I'm currently using Harmonics set up, in practice I'm getting consistent 2.03s but that's it. I usually race conservative just so I don't go fishtailing all over the place but I'm expecting a full on demolition derby today.

 

[Roggers]

Why have the times changed? First few weeks the slot was 4pm gmt and now its 6pm gmt? What’s that all about?
Not that bothered about the truck race, but as I’m playing the game now I was going to enter to for fun, but times are now later.

 

[Mercia]

May be for the holidays, but yeah I thought I'd maybe missed the 16:00

 

[Egghaus88]

Looking forward to the truck race, I applied Harmonic's Raptor setup to the Tundra with a few tweaks and managed a best of 1:59.6 so far. Some may call it a waste of resources but I hope PD adds a Silverado and RAM for some proper pickup racing, preferably a ZR2 and TRX. For now I'll have to settle for my Tundrarado.

 

[Mercia]

Well what can I say about that one other than after running some laps in Harmonic's tune for the Ford I had a feeling it was going to be in amongst it in a B lobby, it just felt nippy and responsive all around.

Earned the pole in qualy though it was tight, within a couple tenths down to 4 or 5th place. Kept it nice and conservative through turn 1 and that was that from there. About 4 seconds ahead of 2nd throughout and that's how it finished as all. Going to watch the replay back as I assume others in the middle had a more memorable outing but that's 2 wins on the bounce for me in GTWS and we're really rolling now.

Good luck all

 

[Tekku]

Has there always been wall riding in Sport mode? I was surprised to see exploits being used for the top times on Tokyo Expressway. Someone also used it during one of my races and almost lapped me during the final lap. Meanwhile I can barely look at a wall myself without getting a penalty. xD

Sport is also rather punishing for us hipsters who don’t want to race meta-cars. I don’t mind being in the back if I’m having a good battle but at this rate I only get any action if people drop behind by their own mistakes. It’s starting to feel a bit tiresome…

 

[CamGearz]

Well what can I say about that one other than after running some laps in Harmonic's tune for the Ford I had a feeling it was going to be in amongst it in a B lobby, it just felt nippy and responsive all around.

Earned the pole in qualy though it was tight, within a couple tenths down to 4 or 5th place. Kept it nice and conservative through turn 1 and that was that from there. About 4 seconds ahead of 2nd throughout and that's how it finished as all. Going to watch the replay back as I assume others in the middle had a more memorable outing but that's 2 wins on the bounce for me in GTWS and we're really rolling now.

Good luck all

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Did you go with the exact settings or use any tcs at all?

 

[AK84LFC]

I couldn’t run that tune at all, car is too unstable. That slight left (dog leg) before a sharp right (maybe turn 4/5) is literally impossible

 

[Mercia]

Did you go with the exact settings or use any tcs at all?

TCS on 1 as usual for me, no other assists. Requires some brake management going into turn 1, and you might want a very quick lift off throttle through turn 4 just to prevent it getting loose depending on your line, but otherwise no issues with it.

 

[CamGearz]

I couldn’t run that tune at all, car is too unstable. That slight left (dog leg) before a sharp right (maybe turn 4/5) is literally impossible

This and T1 is my issue, so I've been too gentle on the throttle because I don't wanna lose it.

TCS on 1 as usual for me, no other assists. Requires some brake management going into turn 1, and you might want a very quick lift off throttle through turn 4 just to prevent it getting loose depending on your line, but otherwise no issues with it.

Cool, I've been using TCS 0 but I'll mess around with it on 1 and seeing if I can get a cleaner line and make up for the time, thanks.

 

[Geauxgreddy]

Slot 1: Once again, I was in a race with @Geauxgreddy, and once again he was in another ZIP code! I thought I might finally be able to keep up after my first qualifying lap was quicker than him, but nope! He quickly improved and ended up 5th on the grid and finished on the podium yet again, while I qualified 11th and had a slightly scruffy race (but still ultimately a decent result).

First incident was on Lap 2 with a Supra that had been punted off at the 2nd Lesmo. They were half on the outside curb and half on the gravel, so when I came through already committed to my line, I had nowhere to go except into the back of them, which killed my momentum and cost me the spot I'd just gained due to the Supra's misfortune, but I'd still worked my way up to 9th at that point. The entire race I had trouble getting through Ascari because I couldn't see the first apex well due to that part of the track being in much heavier shade than in Free Practice. I probably lost close to half a second every lap there. Still, I eventually made my way up to 7th due to other's misfortunes, and (mostly) survived the pressure from multiple people catching me from several seconds behind, only for them to make massive mistakes as they finally got into my slipstream. On the last lap I started rapidly catching an M6 in 6th who'd done the entire race on Mediums and was now paying for it, but unfortunately I was too far back to apply even a little pressure on the final lap, so 7th is where I finished for 232 points, my best score of the season thus far. Maybe if I hadn't kept screwing up Ascari...

While the Gr.3 Corvette is much better against its competition than the Gr.4 version, it still leaves much to be desired, especially in straight line speed. While far from the slowest car on the straights, it's easily outclassed by several cars, and obviously doesn't have the handling to compensate. In GTS, its "secret weapon" was how great its low-speed acceleration was, but the lack of rear-end grip in GT7 seems to have completely nullified that advantage. I was in the middle of a 3-car slipstream train with a McLaren ahead of me and a 4C behind me. Even though the McLaren had no slipstream help, I was barely gaining on it down the length of the front straight, but the 4C in my slipstream was reeling me in like I had no slipstream myself.

My OP car almost didnt help. No idea why, but I was strung as tight as a fiddle in qualifying. Did manage to relax the death grip on the wheel. So much of this racing stuff is mental. I could run 36.8s in TT 20 laps in a row...race opens up, struggle to do a 37.0. However, I settled in and ran the long game. Even after a huge brain spasm in the 1st chicane, I pulled a P3. Just wondered if I coulda caught p2 had that not happened.

Good race and well done! Always enjoy getting to race with quality drivers like yourself.

 

[D_Dragline]

Maybe they don't know about bump drafting and thought you were just tapping them and issued payback.....
I agree with your sentiment though.

It was top split. He knew I was helping him.

 

[timekiller001]

So...
Nations Cup with Pick-Up Trucks...
I didn't really want to do that race, but then decided to give it a try anyway as I didn't have anything else to do 😅
I took Harmonic's tune and did almost one hour of testing to get used to it and got to a 1:58.272.

Off to qualifying:
Lap 1: 1:58.7 - not too bad.
Lap 2: Got blocked.
Lap 3: Got blocked and then steamed off due to weird lag when getting a bump draft.
Lap 4: Started slow as I had a penalty the lap before and then messed up anyway... So I aborted that

So started in P6, not too shabby. But with more laps in I could have gotten further up.

Race: Was really surprised to see a standing start, did not expect that. Hastily turned TCS on for the start (as I had no idea what to expect I wanted to make sure) and lost a few positions anyway. Got lucky in turn 1 as I was on the outside, but managed to survive............






...Only to get murdered in turn 2.
Down to P16.
From then on I had good pace and luck, and was able to get back up to P5 for the finish. 279 points, so really a good result for me.
I was streaming that race, so here you go (sorry for me speaking over it in German):

So despite my expectations, I really enjoyed it and wished I had started earlier with it...

 

[Don3hide]

Super frustrating race with those trucks. Using a pad and running 0 TC no matter how good my exit I had zero slipstream, the guy ahead would pull away and the one behind close in on every straight. I changed to manual as you don't have to drop below 3rd gear and would shift up as soon as I reached the limiter and still lack straight line power. Am I missing something or is this game just against me?

 

[GTWolverine]

Super frustrating race with those trucks. Using a pad and running 0 TC no matter how good my exit I had zero slipstream, the guy ahead would pull away and the one behind close in on every straight. I changed to manual as you don't have to drop below 3rd gear and would shift up as soon as I reached the limiter and still lack straight line power. Am I missing something or is this game just against me?

Did you tune it before racing?

 

[OJBrit]

Not a bad one today. I like tuning and setups being open. However I don't like people sharing tunes. It's cheating in a way. Find your own way and get there to the best of your abilities rather than being a sheep and getting someone else to do the hard work for you.

I got the power up to near the allowed and got the mass down to the limit. I had to fiddle with the suspension a little as the rear was very loose. Also in practice the entry back onto the tri-oval from the infield was it's usual icy self. I got my time down but was still massively off the pace from the top tunes. Went in and got the black screen for the first time. After 5 mins it came back and 4 had gone leaving 11 of us. 1 more quit in qualy. First lap was o.k. but was quickly beaten by others. On my 2nd lap I caught the guy ahead massively ruining it. It was only on my 4th lap that I got a quicker time to go P8 on the grid. It was quite a stretched grid. Those who copied a tune or lucked out way ahead. Some of us in the halfway house like me. And a few who just came in cold. 1st to 10th on the grid was 17 seconds!
My start was average. I maintained status quo with the Portuguese driver ahead and the ones behind were looking but clean enough to settle in during T1. A German ahead had an incident and was spun. On lap 2 I was still following ahead closely and they wobbled out of the chicanes. I pulled past on the straight and that was it from there. The grip was better in the race and I never felt the car would be unstable like it was in practice. The slow guy in qualy found some pace in the race and was only 6 seconds behind at the end. Strange.
Came across the line in a good P6 and with a clean race.

 

[Don3hide]

Oh no I didn't. Silly me then. Didn't think it was possible to tune in these events.

 

[D_Dragline]

Not a bad one today. I like tuning and setups being open. However I don't like people sharing tunes. It's cheating in a way. Find your own way and get there to the best of your abilities rather than being a sheep and getting someone else to do the hard work for you.

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I vehemently disagree. Some of us don’t have the time to endlessly tinker with a thousand different settings until we find the right combination.

In my opinion, these races should be a test of driving skill, not tuning and setup skills.

If I was investing in a setup for reusable Manu that might be worthwhile, but these races are literally every other day and you cannot be competitive without a good tune, so anyone who can provide a good base tune is a godsend.

On a different note, I am getting very sick of seeing the Manu leaderboard filled with Atenzas and M4s.

 

[Raptor013]

I vehemently disagree. Some of us don’t have the time to endlessly tinker with a thousand different settings until we find the right combination.

In my opinion, these races should be a test of driving skill, not tuning and setup skills.

If I was investing in a setup for reusable Manu that might be worthwhile, but these races are literally every other day and you cannot be competitive without a good tune, so anyone who can provide a good base tune is a godsend.

On a different note, I am getting very sick of seeing the Manu leaderboard filled with Atenzas and M4s.

Tonight's race has the potential to be an Atenza festival given the nature of the track.

Although I'm satisfied with the pace the Lexus has here, just need to nail the bottom hairpin turn more consistently.

 

[D_Dragline]

Tonight's race has the potential to be an Atenza festival given the nature of the track.

Although I'm satisfied with the pace the Lexus has here, just need to nail the bottom hairpin turn more consistently.

The AWD Group 4 cars are OP and will dominate. The Slophy might get a sneaky chance with the fuel usage.

The Vantage has good speed, but it can’t compete with the metas.

 

[Raptor013]

The AWD Group 4 cars are OP and will dominate. The Slophy might get a sneaky chance with the fuel usage.

The Vantage has good speed, but it can’t compete with the metas.

I agree that the Atenza and WRX are OP in Group 4. The Lancer and the Lambo struggle, and the Genesis G70 is still an unknown, but seems to be weak from what I've seen in races.

 

[CamGearz]

@Mercia your advice to set it to TCS 1 was awesome, had a great night tonight, thanks!

 

[GTWolverine]

What a race!

Slot 1: As expected, I ended up in Nation's Top Split. This time, I was actually somewhat looking forward to it, as I felt I had much quicker than usual pace. I originally went with a completely original tune, then tried out @Harmonic's tune and ended up using it as a baseline and tweaking it to suit my driving. I qualified 5th of 14, and immediately jumped up to 4th after the truck in front had a terrible start. I then got punted forward in T1 and unintentionally took 3rd place. Headed into the International Horseshoe for the first time, I found myself on the outside of a 3-wide situation as the 2 trucks behind me sent it, with the truck on the inside spinning the truck in the middle (and almost collecting me too). The truck on the inside got slightly ahead of me on the run to the kink, so I backed out as I knew it wouldn't end well if we tried to go side-by-side. After that I was back into 4th. I then outbraked myself into the corner that leads back onto the oval, but still kept 4th, even though it cost me the slipstream to 3rd.

Things stayed status quo until Lap 3 when 2nd place, who was several seconds ahead of 3rd and was in contention for the win and guaranteed at least 2nd, spun out at T1. That promoted me back to 3rd again until the Tundra that had been challenging me for my spot finally got by in the tri-oval to start Lap 4, again demoting me to 4th. The Raptor that was now in 2nd place seemed to be quite a handful, and starting the final lap, he slid off track at T1, allowing the Tundra through to 2nd and letting me catch his slipstream. After we came out of the infield for the final time, I was in his slipstream, and I knew he was probably feeling the pressure. At the same time, I knew I was still way too far back to realistically catch and pass him before the finish line unless he made a mistake, so I focused on making sure I avoided a shortcut penalty at the Bus Stop and hoped he'd try to take it too fast and get a penalty. And that's exactly what happened! Even with his penalty, it was still a photo finish for 3rd place, but I did beat him (barely). Not only was it a podium, but this pass was actually for the honor of being the highest-finishing Raptor in the race as well!

It was also worth 320 points, which is only my 3rd time ever scoring more than 300 points, and it's also now my best-ever score! Also, even though this was a "roval", it still means that all 3 of my 300 point results happened at ovals (the previous ones being at SSRX and BMB in the final FIA-sponsored season in GTS).

 

[Egghaus88]

First two Nations race attwmpts I got the black screen in qualifying, finally on the 3rd try I got in. I qualified P2, on the start the leader and I got a jump, and it looked like everyone else crashed in Turn 1. P1 was about a second per lap faster than me so I basically cruised to a P2 finish for 156 points. I saw trucks on the grid without wide bodies so I figured there would be some mayhem.

 

[D_Dragline]

I agree that the Atenza and WRX are OP in Group 4. The Lancer and the Lambo struggle, and the Genesis G70 is still an unknown, but seems to be weak from what I've seen in races.

Fair call. I was thinking mostly of the Atenza, GTR and WRX.

 

[AK84LFC]

PSA check your tyres for tonight’s manuf cup, again the game defaulted me to IM tyres

 

[D_Dragline]

PSA check your tyres for tonight’s manuf cup, again the game defaulted me to IM tyres

Change them in your garage and it will change the default.

 

[OJBrit]

I vehemently disagree. Some of us don’t have the time to endlessly tinker with a thousand different settings until we find the right combination.

In my opinion, these races should be a test of driving skill, not tuning and setup skills.

I don't have the time either. But I'd rather slowly see what's best for me than shortcut by copying someone else's hard work. The game tells you what it all does so it's a case of learning over time what works best for you, the car and the track.
I would agree that the races should be a test of driving skill. However setups are a thing in racing and should be part of that. I just don't like the fact that copying someone else gets you results over putting in some work.

 

[Mercia]

I don't have the time either. But I'd rather slowly see what's best for me than shortcut by copying someone else's hard work. The game tells you what it all does so it's a case of learning over time what works best for you, the car and the track.
I would agree that the races should be a test of driving skill. However setups are a thing in racing and should be part of that. I just don't like the fact that copying someone else gets you results over putting in some work.

Sorry mate but I disagree on the way you're looking at it, viewing it as copying seems almost like you're accusing players of doing something disingenuous when the people making these tunes are offering them to be used, that's part of why they do it indeed part of the cultural element of that section of the game.

It can also provide a huge part of the learning experience for those new to this whole area, why do these settings create these results, why are these parts used, these are typically explained well by those with knowledge and expertise to share and can be used for future attempts by the players who are interested in that.

Setups are part of racing, for sure, but they're also mostly handled by engineering teams at something like Gr 3 level in the real world, and respond to driver feedback rather than the driver picking the number 4 or 5 on a relatively obscure interface.