[Archive] Gran Turismo World Series Thread

[OJBrit]

Frustrating to bemusing. 7pm slot.
Having seen a few reports and a quick video I knew what to expect. Nope!
It was lightly raining at the start of qualy and the zoomed weather map was only showing showers. I felt confident on my softs as the track was o.k. and serveral drivers were on various wet or hard tyres. Halfway around the lap and the rain was still there and when I zoomed out I saw a few dry patches but mostly blue. My car immediately protested at this point and I backed out for wets. (I already bought all the dry tyres so skipped inters for cost.) It was understeery as the track wasn't wet ready but no threat of spinning like on the drys. Eventually the rain went and the track dried. On my last lap on a dry track I claimed 2nd on my wets as some people quit qualy early and missed on the best track conditions.
Having seen the race reports I switched to mediums to no stop.
Race was wet at the start with a dry patch coming. But the rest was a sea of blue. Could I get around during the dry period to maximise my tyre mistake? P1 must have been on inters as I passed them easily on the Kemmel. Rivage was slippy and I went wide on exit. My gamble had failed. But to be fair I was only 5th when I got to the pits so it wasn't too bad. On wets and got a penalty on both sides of the pits. 2 others had also started on drys and followed me in. There had been a few quits before the race so I was still 9th when I came out but miles behind now. The radar showed an edge to the rain coming so I was only on wets for 2 laps before I came back in. I gambled here as I pitted just as the edge appeared. Good timing as it turned out. In last and after a couple of 'warming' laps I started to set purple sectors and a few purple laps. Eventually others started to pit. The position column started to get drunk. It was showing drivers who had pitted and who had come out as behind me. Eventually it sorted itself out. I was now behind cars and overtook two ahead and pulled away. They must have been on hards. One wet driver went all the way to lap 9 before pitting. The track was dry enough from 5 and 6 really.
Somehow after mucking up my strategy and 2 pit stops I came home in 6th for 63 points. One less than Brands.
They really do need to show the weather radar before the race especially when each slot seems to have different weather. (Which is good tbh)
I don't know how I pulled this result out of the bag.

 

[Stoobert]

I think the BoP is now the most important thing to fix. Running the Alfa. MR weight shifting means attempting to hit the Bus Stop and La Source at any speed resembling an FR car is instant death, so tiptoeing arouind, only to find the car is one of the slowest along the Kemmel to boot. It's definitely not fun when an Aston Martin on 80% worn softs and barely being able to keep it shape matches my times on the hards.

Tomorrow is going to be worse. High speed ring in an MR that has a twitchy back end, and slow top end... Yeah.

 

[QDaddy01]

Hi. Can someone explain how the points are tallied for each race. I was grouped with DR - D and I raced in all 5 time slots and won 2 of the races in the Manufacturer Series TS3 Rd 1 and I have a total of 15 points. What am I doing wrong?

 

[Pfei]

Hi. Can someone explain how the points are tallied for each race. I was grouped with DR - D and I raced in all 5 time slots and won 2 of the races in the Manufacturer Series TS3 Rd 1 and I have a total of 15 points. What am I doing wrong?

Only your last (most recent) race counts. And in DR D lobbies there won't be many points available.

 

[QDaddy01]

Only your last (most recent) race counts. And in DR D lobbies there won't be many points available.

So basically I need to get my DR up higher and if I win 1 of the races I need to stop there. Thanks for the info.

 

[Devdude]

i took 3rd, and it would have helped if 8 didnt start 14th because i messed up the qualifying, but the full wets until 6th lap then full mediums rest of way worked great

 

[GTWolverine]

Slot 1: Rain was torrential in qualifying. I tried to qualify on Inters but had to abandon that after struggling for grip due to the random hydroplaning. I ended up qualifying on full Wets, even though the track was dry enough for Inters by the final lap. I qualified 7th, I think 6s off pole IIRC. I stuck to the Full Wets for the start of the race, and for some reason 6th place started on Mediums, so I was immediately past him before we even got to Eau Rouge the first time. Everyone else from 11th on back were also on slicks of varying grades, so they quickly dropped well behind the rest of us (still, props to @Geauxgreddy for sticking it out to the end). I picked off several other people in front who were struggling for grip in the Inters until I was up to 2nd briefly before screwing up Eau Rouge and handing it back to the car I had just passed after they'd screwed up La Source. From there, I held 3rd until Lap 5 when the track dried out too much for the Full Wets and the cars on Inters started catching me. A BMW passed me to put me down to 4th before the other car ahead on Wets pitted at the end of the lap, promoting me to 3rd once again. I decided to go 1 more lap to let the track dry out a bit more. I lost another spot to another car on inters, dropping me to 4th yet again.

Pitting on Lap 6, I elected to go for Softs, and surprisingly came out of the pits still in 4th. From there, I slowly started catching 3rd...until I ran off at Les Combes a couple laps later by allowing myself to drift off of the dry line. Beaching it cost me 6s and halved a comfortable 11+ second gap to 5th. I managed to avoid that mistake again until near the closing laps, where I proceeded to run off 3 more times (including Les Combes, again...). Running wide at La Source to start the final lap dropped me back to 6th, then I picked up a penalty from running wide at Eau Rouge/Radillion. Fortunately, up ahead the GT-R GT500 I'd given a free spot to a few laps prior had run wide at Pouhon, then got shoved of at Stavelot by a Z4 that caught him because of it. Somehow the Z4 didn't get a penalty though. At the same time, @Dezcom in another Corvette that had done the entire race on Inters was struggling. I passed the recovering GT-R, then @Dezcom out of Stavelot, served my half-second penalty, then caught and re-passed Dez at the chicane to grab 4th, as well as first of the 3 Corvettes and first American, and 40s behind the winner. Everyone from 8th back finished at least 1 lap down.

I could've had a relatively easy 3rd place were it not for all of my stupid mistakes (seems to be a theme for me in this game so far...), but it was worth 274 points, which would be silly to risk by going again.

 

[Randall_Flagg]

I just got disconnected during warmup for the second straight time slot on US servers for Manu Cup. Game just went offline. I am in NJ I wonder if its local.
Also I'm using a car I bought on my own, the same car as the manu car. The game lets me use it. I just didn't want to buy tires for the manu car and then lose the car after the season. I wonder if that is causing the error? I'll buy some tires for the manu car I guess and try next slot to see if it works. Anyone else having disconnect issues on the east coast tonight?

 

[LesFleurs]

Just did slot 1 and 2, winning both races. Neither had a cloud in the sky and I no stopped on mediums. The confusion around this race helped out a lot, as many people started on inters or softs.

 

[Belovian]

RAn slot 3 and PD have found a new way to screw up.Qualifying started on a very wet track but by the end was drying out a lot. Final laps were around 10 seconds quicker than the early ones. The pre-race weather said 10% surface water, so I put on mediums and when we get to the grid it’s raining heavily and the water bar is on the border of the second and third sections.

Come on man, this is just junk. As far as I can tell there’s actually no way to know which tyre to start on. If you guess wrong, race over.

Same just happened to me. Like is the race 2 days after the quali? Track was drying and radar showed nothing for 92 miles.... Who wouldn't put wets on in a downpour. Are we all locked in a windowless bunker before the race? First round is trans glitch, second is weather roulette

Started on hards and it was wet. Pitted for inters five minutes later. Pitted for softs on lap 5. Ate chunks of time out of the rest of the field. The top 4 no-stopped on wets and I'm pretty sure if I'd started on wets and pitted when I did I would have won. If the people I unlapped myself from noticed how much faster I was and pitted they would have won. If I had any faith the weather would repeat itself I might run again and win myself but I don't and I'm hungry so nah.

They need to let you see the weather radar and the actual water gauge before these races.

It doesn't matter. I watched the weather right to the end of qualy and there was no weather for 92 miles. Race starts... Downpour. Yellow flag the whole first lap...

 

[Randall_Flagg]

From what I saw today in EU and US, the weather progression in quali is same as race. If it starts wet and gets dry, race is same. Dry at the end of quali doesn't mean dry to start race. I guess GT7 doesn't follow the rules of space/time hah.

 

[ruggermole]

I decided to mix it up and leave Subaru. I didn't bother to check the previous standings and went with Audi so as to be a good shareholder. Didn't know the car was absolute trash. At Brands Hatch I was 3-4 seconds off people on my friend's list I compare my laps too so I'm going to be skipping out on this series. I'll never cheat on you again Subaru.

 

[jimihemmy]

I just got disconnected during warmup for the second straight time slot on US servers for Manu Cup. Game just went offline. I am in NJ I wonder if its local.
Also I'm using a car I bought on my own, the same car as the manu car. The game lets me use it. I just didn't want to buy tires for the manu car and then lose the car after the season. I wonder if that is causing the error? I'll buy some tires for the manu car I guess and try next slot to see if it works. Anyone else having disconnect issues on the east coast tonight?

I had no problems (Metro DC). I ran two slots (7pm on alt and 9pm on main) also with purchased car from manu so I won’t waste money on tires……

There may be something else going on up there….

 

[ruggermole]

I just got disconnected during warmup for the second straight time slot on US servers for Manu Cup. Game just went offline. I am in NJ I wonder if its local.
Also I'm using a car I bought on my own, the same car as the manu car. The game lets me use it. I just didn't want to buy tires for the manu car and then lose the car after the season. I wonder if that is causing the error? I'll buy some tires for the manu car I guess and try next slot to see if it works. Anyone else having disconnect issues on the east coast tonight?

I had issues with the game Friday night (eastern pa about an hour from Jersey). Had no other issues with internet or with my ps5 and psn but the game kept going offline.

 

[Randall_Flagg]

Just be safe I switched to the official Manu car, my WRX for the next slot. Lucked out with a dry quali and race, started 5th, finished 4th! Spa isn't a strong track for me so I'm happy.

 

[D_Dragline]

From what I saw today in EU and US, the weather progression in quali is same as race. If it starts wet and gets dry, race is same. Dry at the end of quali doesn't mean dry to start race. I guess GT7 doesn't follow the rules of space/time hah.

Any kind of in-game indication that this is how it works would be useful. No wonder there were only 2 of us on slicks in slot 3.

 

[GTWolverine]

Any kind of in-game indication that this is how it works would be useful. No wonder there were only 2 of us on slicks in slot 3.

Seems like one of those things they expect us to figure out on our own, like dirty air effects or slipstream distances.

 

[Fox Andersson]

EU Slot 1. It was my first race in GT2 as I went into B rating last week. I was a little worried because I'm not a fast driver and thought it would be almost impossible to keep up and compete, after two very good seasons in GT3 class.

I like SPA and was lucky to get out of pits first for quali and get clean air. It wasn't raining, radar showed no sign of rain, track was barely wet and dried fast. I managed to get pole position with over 1 sec on the 2nd (I was on soft), but I didn't know which compound was used by others. I was surprised to be there with that margin.

On the starting screen I read 9% wet and by the experiences in the first two seasons I knew it would be the same weather as quali, so I decided to bet on mediums to go for a no stop.

The start was very good and heading to Blanchimont I had more than 2 seconds on 2nd when I stupidly decided to check the weather radar, messed up and missed the bus stop chicane braking point by a lot. I managed to turn and get on track avoiding the "death respawn", but I lost the lead. By the way I was able to stay with the leader, with the pack behind way far away from us. Ending lap 3 I touched the green exiting the Bus Stop chicane and spun, then spun again rushing to recover and I was passed by two cars and found me 4th. I was much faster then them, so I passed the first one at the end of Kemmel (he was very fair, not waiving on the straight and giving me the space to overtake with no peril for both of us). I made a couple of mistakes in lap 4 and 5, so I lost some time to the 2nd, while the leader was 10+ seconds ahead. I started to think "Please, tell me the both of you are on softs and pitting. Please tell me the both of you are on softs and pitting."

The leader pitted at the end of lap 6 so I was 2nd at the moment. At the end of lap 8 the other driver pitted (I discovered later he was on mediums) so I took the lead again with about 15 seconds margin on the following car. Tires started to be slippery but I wasn't losing much time, to be safe I decided to lift a little more, finishing the race in P1 with 10 seconds on the 2nd place and got 80 points (lobby completely B/S rating)

Great race, fair and clean drivers (at least those that I got into) and a fun experience. Now I'm looking ahead for the next race at Trial Mountain, a track that I don't like so much. I hope to find another clean and fair lobby.

 

[sixty4half]

I ran a beautiful no stopper. I qualified 4th and after the softies pit, I was back in 4th. on lap 12 I had 3 softies over 3 secs behind me. Going into final chicane I was still ahead by .300. I get punted into sand by the lead softie. He messaged me to let me know it was my fault for not knowing how to move over and let faster cars pass safely..... mfg

Ended 6th cuz the guy who punted me got a huge penalty but I got passed by 3 softies.


For round 3, why is the required tyre type Medium? Nobody is going to run Hards, they just do two stints of 8 laps of Mediums. Tyre Wear at x3 so 24 laps should be do able in Mediums.

 

[Raptor013]

My race from Spa. The race started with heavy rain which later dried up. Started on Inters which was risky given how wet the track was. A lot of people found pools of water on the track at various places (myself included).

Managed to climb from 11th to 4th by the end, but man it was a tricky race to get through.

 

[Dezcom]

Slot 1: Rain was torrential in qualifying. I tried to qualify on Inters but had to abandon that after struggling for grip due to the random hydroplaning. I ended up qualifying on full Wets, even though the track was dry enough for Inters by the final lap. I qualified 7th, I think 6s off pole IIRC. I stuck to the Full Wets for the start of the race, and for some reason 6th place started on Mediums, so I was immediately past him before we even got to Eau Rouge the first time. Everyone else from 11th on back were also on slicks of varying grades, so they quickly dropped well behind the rest of us (still, props to @Geauxgreddy for sticking it out to the end). I picked off several other people in front who were struggling for grip in the Inters until I was up to 2nd briefly before screwing up Eau Rouge and handing it back to the car I had just passed after they'd screwed up La Source. From there, I held 3rd until Lap 5 when the track dried out too much for the Full Wets and the cars on Inters started catching me. A BMW passed me to put me down to 4th before the other car ahead on Wets pitted at the end of the lap, promoting me to 3rd once again. I decided to go 1 more lap to let the track dry out a bit more. I lost another spot to another car on inters, dropping me to 4th yet again.

Pitting on Lap 6, I elected to go for Softs, and surprisingly came out of the pits still in 4th. From there, I slowly started catching 3rd...until I ran off at Les Combes a couple laps later by allowing myself to drift off of the dry line. Beaching it cost me 6s and halved a comfortable 11+ second gap to 5th. I managed to avoid that mistake again until near the closing laps, where I proceeded to run off 3 more times (including Les Combes, again...). Running wide at La Source to start the final lap dropped me back to 6th, then I picked up a penalty from running wide at Eau Rouge/Radillion. Fortunately, up ahead the GT-R GT500 I'd given a free spot to a few laps prior had run wide at Pouhon, then got shoved of at Stavelot by a Z4 that caught him because of it. Somehow the Z4 didn't get a penalty though. At the same time, @Dezcom in another Corvette that had done the entire race on Inters was struggling. I passed the recovering GT-R, then @Dezcom out of Stavelot, served my half-second penalty, then caught and re-passed Dez at the chicane to grab 4th, as well as first of the 3 Corvettes and first American, and 40s behind the winner. Everyone from 8th back finished at least 1 lap down.

I could've had a relatively easy 3rd place were it not for all of my stupid mistakes (seems to be a theme for me in this game so far...), but it was worth 274 points, which would be silly to risk by going again.

Good job on your race! I spun when pushing too hard to catch the leader and killed my tires. Inters are awful after about 20% wear.

 

[75S30]

People were exploiting the transmission settings that allow to run 500+ hp. It's doable on all cars but seems to favor some. There's no way I run 7 seconds slower (I'm usually a second off of top ten) with standard tuning, an hour of playing with gear setting got me 5 seconds away.the top 10 were faster than gr.3 cars....

PP glitch is not something I want to bother with. Only did it for the credit farming but that's it.

Second race was a lot of fun with BOP but still SLOW GR3 Lambo got 490hp from what I remember for the BOP, curious what the WRX got if anyone knows. I figure weights was similar.

Spa 24hr. First Attempt - RH Tires no stop
Spa 24hr. Second Attempt - IM Tires no stop, Crazy amount of rain, pulled a gap but started to dry and got caught up by the pack. Rear tires were dead, ended up going 3rd --> 1st --> 5th, but I'll take that. Lambo too slow for the dry on Spa. GT7 needs more races like this. Probably the most fun I have had in a race.

 

[timekiller001]

I'm not going to talk about the Friday race, just one thing: Tuning in BoP cars sucks.

Now on to Saturdays race.
Unfortunately I only had time for the last slot, I would have hoped for more racing but that's the way it is...
Went out in warm-up to check the weather - it was dry. Only a tiny amount of surface water but no rain coming in.
So I went into qualifying with softs. Ouf of the 4 timed laps I managed to do I got a penalty in two as I was too aggressive in Eau rouge/Radillion and got a corner cut penalty, but my second non-penalty lap got me up to P2. Without the penalty in the last lap I would have been able to attack P1 as my second sector was a bit faster. In the end it was P3 as someone else took P1 at the end.

For the race I chose the medium tires, as I knew they would last the race and I did not expect any rain, given it's the same weather in quali and race and it was bone dry with no rain coming in quali.

So race start from P3. Start was ok and I managed to keep the position at first, but the two in front were fighting a bit so I lost some time. It very quickly emerged to me that the car behind was on softs with the pace he had in the corners, so eventually he went past in lap 2. I then made a mistake in turn 12 so I got passed after turn 14, so I was now on P5. But only for a brief moment, as he had a time penalty immediately after passing me, so back to P4, but now a second behind P3.
The cars in front were still fighting a bit, especially as the guy on softs tried to get past them. P3 had a penalty so I got him in lap 4.
In lap 6, P2 had binned it coming out of turn 13, so now up to P2 with 3.4 seconds to P1.
By this time I had already forgotten that the guy in P1 was the one who started on softs. So as his tires faded towards the end, I got past in lap 10 and cruised home in P1 for a first win in the manufacturers cup

 

[Roggers]

To the people that raced Spa. I had to miss the race so wondering about the weather.
I’m seeing a mix of players on here saying they started on Dry, Inters or Full wets for the race. How did you know what tyre to pick? Have they included track conditions to the menu before the race? Or did you guess?

 

[Mercia]

To the people that raced Spa. I had to miss the race so wondering about the weather.
I’m seeing a mix of players on here saying they started on Dry, Inters or Full wets for the race. How did you know what tyre to pick? Have they included track conditions to the menu before the race? Or did you guess?

From what I read during the slots, the race weather followed the same pattern as qualifying. So if it was dry all through, dry to wet, or wet to dry it would be the same in the race.

It seems PD think that adding the temperature and surface water level to the lobby screen is the same as showing what the weather will be at race start so I'm assuming there's something in that numbers wise that might be worth experimenting with.

For me, I saw surface water level was 9% in both slots I raced so I started on slicks and whether it was luck or not both races started with that surface water but dried out and didn't rain (the same as qualifying).

 

[timekiller001]

From what I read during the slots, the race weather followed the same pattern as qualifying. So if it was dry all through, dry to wet, or wet to dry it would be the same in the race.

It seems PD think that adding the temperature and surface water level to the lobby screen is the same as showing what the weather will be at race start so I'm assuming there's something in that numbers wise that might be worth experimenting with.

For me, I saw surface water level was 9% in both slots I raced so I started on slicks and whether it was luck or not both races started with that surface water but dried out and didn't rain (the same as qualifying).

I believe the surface water level meter is flawed and shows the amount of the end of qualifying instead of the start of the race.

I don't have an example from me as I only raced once yesterday in dry conditions, but I watched Kie25's stream before that and in his first race the meter showed 10% after qualifying but at the start of the race it was very wet.

But that's just my guess - if someone has a different experience, please share!

 

[Mercia]

I believe the surface water level meter is flawed and shows the amount of the end of qualifying instead of the start of the race.

But that's just my guess - if someone has a different experience, please share!

It was definitely different pre-qualy (not much, 10%) to pre-race (9% so we're talking a whopping 1 point but I did notice) and assuming qualy dries out to 0% that would suggest the 9% is for race start? Or at least meant to be.

You may be right though reading others experiences, I got lucky to have two totally dry runs so have limited data to go off.

 

[Roggers]

From what I read during the slots, the race weather followed the same pattern as qualifying. So if it was dry all through, dry to wet, or wet to dry it would be the same in the race.

It seems PD think that adding the temperature and surface water level to the lobby screen is the same as showing what the weather will be at race start so I'm assuming there's something in that numbers wise that might be worth experimenting with.

For me, I saw surface water level was 9% in both slots I raced so I started on slicks and whether it was luck or not both races started with that surface water but dried out and didn't rain (the same as qualifying).

I believe the surface water level meter is flawed and shows the amount of the end of qualifying instead of the start of the race.

I don't have an example from me as I only raced once yesterday in dry conditions, but I watched Kie25's stream before that and in his first race the meter showed 10% after qualifying but at the start of the race it was very wet.

But that's just my guess - if someone has a different experience, please share!

Hmmmm…. So we’re still heading into races blind.
The weather radar I think is great feature and the first time I’ve seen anything like this in a game but the lack of Info before a race is poor.

 

[Raptor013]

For my lobby both pre-qualifying and race, it mentioned in the upper right of the screen that shows the various camera angles around the track. That the temperature was 15° and there was 10% surface water on the circuit.

In both cases the track was far wetter than 10% however conditions did improve in both sessions.

 

[Mercia]

So unless I'm missing something (possible, I'm painkillered up the eyeballs and not that smart on a good day) the Trial Mountain race is 12 laps, RH and RM available yet it's 1 mandatory pit stop and you must run RM at some point so it's an obvious RM/RM race then? Why bother making RH available?