[Archive] Gran Turismo World Series Thread

[GTWolverine]

I don't have the time either. But I'd rather slowly see what's best for me than shortcut by copying someone else's hard work. The game tells you what it all does so it's a case of learning over time what works best for you, the car and the track.
I would agree that the races should be a test of driving skill. However setups are a thing in racing and should be part of that. I just don't like the fact that copying someone else gets you results over putting in some work.

Borrowing setups is also a part of real-life motorsports. Drivers copy teammates' setups all the time, and every time a team revisits a track, they use a previous setup as a baseline, so if a driver is new to a team they'll effectively be borrowing someone else's setup as well. In real life, teams have even less time to practice for a race, so they're not going to all go to each track with the car set to "stock" values (if those are even a thing IRL) and start from scratch every race. I can guarantee you no driver or team ever feels "dirty" copying setups.

I definitely don't understand how it's cheating anyway when we all have access to the exact same resources. If someone posts a tune online that anyone can copy, no one has an advantage or disadvantage.

 

[D_Dragline]

Slot 2 Manufacturers At Lago Maggiore in Asia.

This is an unexpectedly great combo. As we thought, AWD cars are seriously OP (even the Huracan) but if you think of it as a multi class race it’s great fun.

Qualified P8 with a 56.8, the top 7 were all AWD.

The race itself was one of the highest standard races I’ve ever been a part of. The Atenzas up front cleared out steadily, but the cars from p5 to p10 all sat, in formation, within about 3 seconds of each other for 12 laps. No one was making mistakes but everyone was constantly under pressure. On lap 12 a WRX in p3 pitted and then around lap 15 the GTR in front of me obviously realized they needed to fuel save a bit more aggressively. Meanwhile, I was saving enough to run a few laps flat out at the end. Sure enough, on lap 18 I got by the GTR and set off after the Huracan in p5. By the final lap the GTR had clearly saved enough and he ran flat out as well. By the time we reached the line he was less than 0.2 seconds behind me with p5 just a few tenths ahead.

P6, 208 points, no major mistakes from anyone and a big smile. Just how racing should be.

 

[AK84LFC]

Slot 2 Manufacturers At Lago Maggiore in Asia.

This is an unexpectedly great combo. As we thought, AWD cars are seriously OP (even the Huracan) but if you think of it as a multi class race it’s great fun.

Qualified P8 with a 56.8, the top 7 were all AWD.

The race itself was one of the highest standard races I’ve ever been a part of. The Atenzas up front cleared out steadily, but the cars from p5 to p10 all sat, in formation, within about 3 seconds of each other for 12 laps. No one was making mistakes but everyone was constantly under pressure. On lap 12 a WRX in p3 pitted and then around lap 15 the GTR in front of me obviously realized they needed to fuel save a bit more aggressively. Meanwhile, I was saving enough to run a few laps flat out at the end. Sure enough, on lap 18 I got by the GTR and set off after the Huracan in p5. By the final lap the GTR had clearly saved enough and he ran flat out as well. By the time we reached the line he was less than 0.2 seconds behind me with p5 just a few tenths ahead.

P6, 208 points, no major mistakes from anyone and a big smile. Just how racing should be.

So a stop isn’t needed if you fuel save enough?

 

[Roggers]

Skipped todays race. Had 3 minutes before the 1st slot ended and it didn’t really inspire me

 

[Don3hide]

I didn't stop once in my race. Went flat out the last 2 laps and ended with 0.2 laps of fuel.

 

[hacklberry]

So a stop isn’t needed if you fuel save enough?

Yes, stop isn't needed. With the Porsche it's quite easy to save enough fuel. I don't now what fuel consumption the other cars have.

 

[AK84LFC]

I had to run map 3/4 on my WRX and just about made it.

 

[Mercia]

The chevy has nothing for Gr 4 I don't see where the time is going to come from, add to that my own skill level as well and hmm.

Had a bash at fuel saving it out, ended up running at the back, came back to full mix too early and just ran out coming down the final hill to the finish but would have been 13th anyway.

Going to just run it full and take the stop and see what happens as I quite like the drive itself but not expecting much.

 

[Roggers]

I had to run map 3/4 on my WRX and just about made it.

This doesn’t appeal to me at all. This isn’t racing when your fuel saving all race. I understand in endurance races the need to save fuel but in short sprints it just a bit boring.
I’d much prefer for PD to either under fuel the cars by 1 or 2 laps so you have to do a little bit of fuel save but the rest of the race it allows you run at mix 1. Or half fuel the cars and force a pits stop. This makes for so much better racing.
If cars are under fuelled by a few laps you can either fuel save at the start, mid or end of the race and this would mix things up.
And half fuelled races some might fuel save in the first stint to save a bit of time in the pit lane.

 

[RavenR]

What's the pit stop loss for manufacturers tonight? I might just pit, take the loss & see if the performance difference is enough to recover the lost time, & hope for mistakes by people on older tyres or slow fuel maps.
Racing in slow fuel maps does not sound like an enjoyable fun race

They really need to reduce the pit loss for most of the FIA races I've done so far, some are ridiculous where you don't even see your car in the pitbox for 20 seconds... It's like, in no world is that realistic, it does not take 20 seconds for a car to appear in the pitbox at Monza. I'm not sure if its bugged or something but it always seems like the car is just stuck loading for a good 10 seconds before anything even begins to happen.

I should be able to see my car the whole way down the pit lane.

 

[Don3hide]

What's the pit stop loss for manufacturers tonight? I might just pit, take the loss & see if the performance difference is enough to recover the lost time, & hope for mistakes by people on older tyres or slow fuel maps.
Racing in slow fuel maps does not sound like an enjoyable fun race

They really need to reduce the pit loss for most of the FIA races I've done so far, some are ridiculous where you don't even see your car in the pitbox for 20 seconds... It's like, in no world is that realistic, it does not take 20 seconds for a car to appear in the pitbox at Monza. I'm not sure if its bugged or something but it always seems like the car is just stuck loading for a good 10 seconds before anything even begins to happen.

I should be able to see my car the whole way down the pit lane.

I watched one of my race replays and basically your car is just stationary at pit entrance for a good 10 seconds before it appears in the pit box. So weird.

 

[Mercia]

The chevy has nothing for Gr 4 I don't see where the time is going to come from, add to that my own skill level as well and hmm.

Had a bash at fuel saving it out, ended up running at the back, came back to full mix too early and just ran out coming down the final hill to the finish but would have been 13th anyway.

Going to just run it full and take the stop and see what happens as I quite like the drive itself but not expecting much.

Ran it full out and pitted around lap 14. Started better, 8th, ended up 10th and I don't like to say it but a really dumb lobby there. Fighting for positions on lap 2 when we're clearly on different strats... I expect it later as you're not obliged to let a faster car through for position, but that early, being that much of an ass... just blithely turning in when I'm obviously alongside... and it seemed to be a bunch right in the middle just did not want to race it out.

Shame as it could have been a better scrap at the end.

Ah well Suzuka tomorrow and my times are woeful

 

[Timm Sheehan]

I should be able to see my car the whole way down the pit lane.

Just like we do in ACC or PC2. Totally agree.

 

[Egghaus88]

I ran two custom races to test fuel strategy in the Corvette, running FM3/4 is a no stop, total time was 20:23, running flat out all race with one stop, total time was 20:13, so 10 seconds faster. Glad to hear that the race was fun, I really enjoyed the flow of this short track in the custom races, lots of room and plenty of places to pass. I hope the Corvette gets some BOP love after these test seasons are complete.

 

[Pfei]

I ran two custom races to test fuel strategy in the Corvette, running FM3/4 is a no stop, total time was 20:23, running flat out all race with one stop, total time was 20:13, so 10 seconds faster. Glad to hear that the race was fun, I really enjoyed the flow of this short track in the custom races, lots of room and plenty of places to pass. I hope the Corvette gets some BOP love after these test seasons are complete.

I think the problem with stopping when most are not is track position.

 

[RavenR]

I think the problem with stopping when most are not is track position.

The problem with stopping is the ~15-20 seconds where your car is basically still, somewhere in the distance at the start of the pitlane not moving. Ridiculous issue

 

[Pfei]

Sitting here in Manu with black screen

 

[GTWolverine]

I ran two custom races to test fuel strategy in the Corvette, running FM3/4 is a no stop, total time was 20:23, running flat out all race with one stop, total time was 20:13, so 10 seconds faster. Glad to hear that the race was fun, I really enjoyed the flow of this short track in the custom races, lots of room and plenty of places to pass. I hope the Corvette gets some BOP love after these test seasons are complete.

I did a 19:41 no-stop custom race just short-shifting. Shifting right as the red bar appears, and using 6th on the run to the banked corner and to the finish line, was enough to make it to the end.

 

[ruggermole]

I did a 19:31 no-stop custom race just short-shifting. Shifting right as the red bar appears, and using 6th on the run to the banked corner and to the finish line, was enough to make it to the end.

so fuel map in 1 and don't rev into oblivion?

 

[GTWolverine]

so fuel map in 1 and don't rev into oblivion?

Basically. The Corvette still sucks though. Finished 14th of 15. I did get shoved into the gravel by an Atenza that was somehow struggling in this race, so that definitely cost me some time, but I had absolutely no pace for a good result anyway...

 

[ruggermole]

Basically. The Corvette still sucks though. Finished 14th of 15. I did get shoved into the gravel by an Atenza that was somehow struggling in this race, so that definitely cost me some time, but I had absolutely no pace for a good result anyway...

Thanks for the advice, bummer about the result though. Go get ‘‘em next time.

 

[Raptor013]

Replay from the Lago Maggiore West End race.

I have to say that this layout of Maggiore really suits the Group 4 cars. It has a very touring car feel to the way it flows and if you are brave enough 1 really good overtaking place at the bottom of the hill.

 

[Egghaus88]

Basically. The Corvette still sucks though. Finished 14th of 15. I did get shoved into the gravel by an Atenza that was somehow struggling in this race, so that definitely cost me some time, but I had absolutely no pace for a good result anyway...

Wow, this is so much better than using FM3/4, car doesn't bog coming up the hill after the banked corner. Going to try another race on this strategy, the 9:00 race I qualified 8th and finished 8th.

 

[LowTEC-Derbo]

Round 8 was fun.

I was in the GR.4 M4 no pit strat. Ended up in 2nd but 11s behind some Audi TT Cup racer.

I was doing average 58s in FM5 and short shifting at 7k to make it to the end...dang M4 just eats gas

 

[Pfei]

GTWS Manu - TS2 - R8 - Lago Maggiore
GT1 League - A/S lobby
WRX Gr. 4

I decided to wait out the black screen of death. At 20:25 central, we were in qualy. All three of us! Laid down a 56:768 for pole, with second only 0.015s behind.

I thought the guy behind me would definitely battle me, but I pulled away the whole race, wholly thanks to this:

I did a 19:41 no-stop custom race just short-shifting. Shifting right as the red bar appears, and using 6th on the run to the banked corner and to the finish line, was enough to make it to the end.

Thank you, @GTWolverine . That is what I did in GTS and I am surprised I had forgotten about it. Your memory refresher got me the win. I even had fuel to go flat out mid race to assure fastest lap.

So, pole, fastest lap, win. 201 points. Against two rival cars. What a joke. This needs to be fixed. But I'll take this as payback for the lost win in Bathurst when I was taken out by a bugged AI car in a tank car. Here are all the screenshots because it's ridiculous:

 

[Stilva]

Not a fan of the later starting times, but I entered the 20:00 GT2 race and was ranked 14 in the room. At one point in qualifying I was in P14, but I put a good lap in and was P7 on the grid. The race starts and the fuel saving begins as I went the first 7 laps in FM2. Someone went for a gap that wasn't there in the hairpin after the downhill turn that leads onto the straight on the regular course. They got a penalty for that and then I fell into a line with a Nissan, myself, and a Viper for a few laps. I miss an apex and I let the Viper by, no point in fighting in this race. They get into the back of the Nissan a lap or 2 later and sends it to meet Barry R. Viper gets a penalty and I cruise in P6 for a while. Viper gets by me again as they were not fuel saving, but I kept my pace and adjusting fuel as needed. A few drivers stop ahead of me for a splash and go of fuel (Viper included). That leaves in in P4 with a nice gap so I can save a bit more fuel as I miscalculated ever so slightly. I do enough to finish P4 with exactly 0 fuel left. I got my first 100 point round with 111 points.

That race was much better than Monza and will get me up the rankings a bit. Good challenge with fuel management on a short course, but I can see it going way wrong if you are not paying attention or not changing on the fly each lap. I'm also glad this season is done Monday as I'm worn out from this schedule. Might skip the next test season if there is one. While I am having fun with this season, it's too much at times.

 

[GTWolverine]

Lol what a joke.

Slot 1: Qualified 11th, surprisingly ahead of both an Atenza and a McLaren. The Atenza had a rather sloppy race and while he eventually got past me, he didn't pull away, and in fact I was able to re-pass him after one of his many mistakes. He then sent it up the inside at Banky Boi and shoved me off on the exit into the gravel, costing me 3 spots. To his credit, he did wait for me to re-pass again, but I was now stuck in 13th of 15 and eventually finished 14th when I messed up the esses for the final time just before the finish line and the Atenza got back past me...the only car I beat was the McLaren I outqualified who finished 1-lap down.

Slot 2: Top Split this time. Qualified 13th, in a race where the first SEVEN qualifiers were M4s. Somehow there were no Atenzas present. The next 3 qualifiers were comprised of a WRX and 3 McLarens (I forgot which order), then a 458, me in the Corvette, a Supra, and a Cayman to round out the field. At the start, I jumped ahead of the Ferrari before the start line was even in sight because of how hilariously underpowered it is when outside its powerband. I held it off for a few laps before it finally got by, and it was the same story for the Supra and Cayman who also got by a few laps after that. I spent the rest of the race in last place (15th) and finished there. I should've known this race was pointless in this car.

 

[Egghaus88]

Second attempt with the shirt shift FM1 strategy didn't go any better, I was in a faster lobby and qualified P10. A couple spinners later I'm running around in P8 catching a draft of a GT-R in front of me. In the closing laps we were caught by a WRX and Viper, shuffling positions on the final lap and I ended up P9, 120 points same as the first race. The Corvette actually felt great to drive here, just too slow, I think my qualifying time was 57.2 with a good draft.

 

[GTWolverine]

I bought an Atenza for the next Nation's race, and with the BoP, it has 46 more hp and is carrying 166 fewer lbs than the Corvette, in addition to being AWD...

 

[jrbabbitt]

Question: I initially signed up with McLaren in th he mfg races around update 1.06 time. I went into the Mfg Race area tonight and had me sign up with a Mfg again, why did this happen ? After I did sign up this time with Dodge I didnt get any notification that I was already with another Mfg and went to my garage and found out that the McLaren's were gone.
I thought Mfg contacts were for a year ?