Aston Martin DB9-R?
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Because any new additions (apart from 1 or 2 cars, for example the Jag XFR) are modelled as Premium and more importantly I love these things.
Except they are different, not just the livery but each interior is completely different (not just between brands but between cars of the same brand just like they are in real life).
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What also isnt right is you guys bitching about PD's lack of cars, yet really, odds are, its the car company that has said no to having the car in the game. All comes down to licensing. Cant have more F1 cars in the game because PD doesnt have the license to make a F1 racing game based on real life. They put NASCAR in because they did get the license. They cant get more RM cars because, You guessed, they cant get the car company to say yes. Its all well and good for you guys to sit there and bitch about all the cars that arent in teh game and how they should just put it in and whatnot yet no one has any idea how hard it is to get the copyright cleared, get the licensing with the car company, model it, make sure the company's happy with it, and if they arent, the car gets left out. Ever thought of that? No, cause all you guys want is "The Perfect Game" that has everything YOU want. Well, fact of the matter is, you dont always get what you want in life, realise that, get over it and enjoy the game for what it is and what it has. End rant.
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So, why didnt we get the Lamborghini Gallardo Super Leggera? The Ferrari 599 GTO? The Dodge Charger SRT8 '08? Vauxhall VXR/Holden Clubsport? The Zonda Cinque, F Roadster, The Tricolore? Citroen DS3? The Citroen Survolt? TVR Sagaris? Volkswagen Scirocco R? Why Didnt we get the '09 RX-8? BMW M6? Mercedes SL 65 AMG? Ferrari 612 Scaglietti? Ferrari Testarossa? 288 GTO? Ford Mustang GT500? The Audi R15 TDI? Audi A1 through to A8? Chevrolet Corvette GT1 Championship edition? Lotus Europa? Exige? 2 Eleven? The list could go on. Most of these cars, Im certain, Kaz would add to the game in a heartbeat, so why didnt he?
There's always one!
Seriously? TOP 20?? I have to know the reasoning behind that, I'm not taking the mickey either I genuinely want to know. You have all the classic marques of history, with early innovations, marques with racing heritage, marques with technical innovations. I'm seriously struggling to think what Suzuki in the car industry has done. Bikes yeah, I'm a big Schwantz fan and the Gixers are amazing....but cars?
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And yet they had the modellers to model a premium prius, honda Insight, A corrolla rally car, which was already in the game, 2 suzuki cappacinos, a '89 Eunos roaster, another R33, another R32, another R34, 4 GT-R's (3 woulda have been acceptable: The Proto, the Black Mask, and a production model) 2 Premium Rx7's (Why not just leave it at 1?) 2 suzuki Swifts. Take out all teh excess and they woulda had time to model soem more, good, favourited cars,
EDIT: I believe we ujst argued the same point........... Anyway, my statement still stands, they couldnt do S*** without the company's agreement.
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people are so clueless. i happen to think the car selection is second to none among all other games. there might be lots of skylines, but what else has everything from the Zonda to the Ginetta G4 to the Opel Corsa to Ferrari Enzo to Suzuki Cappucino to Ford Mustang....you will find the car list is more varied among manufacturers to ANY OTHER console game out.
The game has 1000 + plus cars, there is no way to get every one in and please everywhere, thats what DLC is for, too bad PD is blind to DLC apparently.
There is more then enough supercars in the game already. Sure more would be better, but still. Game has more important issues then this.
There is more then enough supercars in the game already. Sure more would be better, but still. Game has more important issues then this.
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That's just your opinion which differs from mine, thankfully the car list isn't compiled by the majority, as that would result in a huge amount of supercars which appeared on Top Gear.
There are people who have a more eclectic taste and appreciate variety (that's including supercars which I also love), they might be in a minority and these little 'Nazi-buggies' obviously aren't appreciated by everyone but I love the fact they're included, silly or not.
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Well all I'm tryna say is that GT was THE cutting edge driving simm
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Was? Still is I reckon.
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Lol didn't get to finish. Yes was and is THE racing game all others try to aspire to. The Technic 1200 of racing games if you will. Mostly because it had the greatest collection of Le Manns series race cars and their road car counter parts. The game has built it's reputation becuz of this and it's unmatched driving physics which other games, even the close 2nd of Shift or Grid, still cannot match tho their selection of cars is a bit more spot on to consider this what it always used to be.. a "racing" game.
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Yes, it may be top-notch, yes it may be unrivalled in all (well most) fields, but imagine what it would be if it only had 1 of each car. The car count would drop right down round the 800's maybe, then, fill it back up with the current Le Mans cars, GT3, GT1, V8 Supercars, F1. It would then Become THE ULTIMATE and be unrivalled for years to come, decades if they do it right.
Add a few more tuning options, Drivetrain swaps, engine swaps, More cosmetic customisation, more RM cars, Engine Mapping even. Every Aspect of your car, tyre pressure, steering lock angle, compression ratio's, tyre width, imagine if you could tune it all to your specfic options. Imagine buying a stock standard R34 and fine tuning every detail of it so it can rival even the best production based Le Man Racecars.
Imagine, 30 car races, A-spec and Online (First they have to fix the servers). Medium length races of up to 30-40 laps, Stuff this 5 lap crap then jumping into the 4 hour enduros. Build up to it, start small then get bigger.
Imagine if this game was EVERYTHING everyone wanted it to be. Its Achievable, hell, the could even pull it off for GT6. But Imagine how brilliant that game would be, absolutly perfect in everyone's eyes. Tuning options for the Ricers, Supercars for the thrill seekers, Purpose built racecars for the speed demons, Every Aspect of the game, Perfection...
Add a few more tuning options, Drivetrain swaps, engine swaps, More cosmetic customisation, more RM cars, Engine Mapping even. Every Aspect of your car, tyre pressure, steering lock angle, compression ratio's, tyre width, imagine if you could tune it all to your specfic options. Imagine buying a stock standard R34 and fine tuning every detail of it so it can rival even the best production based Le Man Racecars.
Imagine, 30 car races, A-spec and Online (First they have to fix the servers). Medium length races of up to 30-40 laps, Stuff this 5 lap crap then jumping into the 4 hour enduros. Build up to it, start small then get bigger.
Imagine if this game was EVERYTHING everyone wanted it to be. Its Achievable, hell, the could even pull it off for GT6. But Imagine how brilliant that game would be, absolutly perfect in everyone's eyes. Tuning options for the Ricers, Supercars for the thrill seekers, Purpose built racecars for the speed demons, Every Aspect of the game, Perfection...
We sort of agree. PDs choices, KNOWING, they had limited modelling resources were strange. But I do disagree on the licensing issue. Why would Aston Martin agree to one car over another? I'm certain it was just a time issue and the insane level of detail on the premiums sucked up modelling time.
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Whatever the reason is, Im sure its a silly one that should be fixed by GT6.
I just realised a brand new angle we can look at GT5 with. Why not think of it as GT6: Prologue. Not perfect, but close.
They have time for GT6, I cant see graphics getting much better for that, so they dont need the modelling time to model the already modelled premium cars, they just need to work on removing some Miata's, Skyline's, mutliples of the 1 car. Turn the Standards to premium, tweak the performance of the game, add the cars that missed out GT5, Add some more races, fix the Online servers, fix whats wrong with this game (Technically they can just use this as a base, template. Save alot more time that they can spend on fixing bugs)
....Wow Im long winded tonight...well, this morning....
Then, release GT6: Prologue, but make it kinda like GT3 or GT4, where its a full game, but not a complete version. Use the money from those sales to go towards begging to get the Aston Martin DB9-R and other gorgeous racecars. Hows that sound?
Oh come on, show some love for Suzuki!
I do love Suzuki....motorbikes! and the GSXR4 concept
you didn't answer my question tho! Erm....Forza 3s car list is SO much better than GT5s, Hardly any duplicated cars apart from the obvious racing variety. GT5s car total would be less impressive if you removed all the unnecessary MX5s, RX7s, Skylines AND the total IDENTICAL cars with different names, Daihatsus, Vauxhall/Opel Touring cars, Mazda Touring cars. I'm NOT saying get rid of ALL, but there's FAR too many with VERY little difference between them.
Where's the Suzuki love gone?
But that's the point I'm making. I'd be more than willing to accept a Suzuki Swift, but not at the exclusion of a better brand. Hell I'd like to see some modern Ginettas in the game!It's not stupid at all, it's what they DID.
There's eclectic taste and there's eclectic taste. The WW2 VWs have no place in a game such as GT5 IMO. I'd prefer eclectic stuff like a modern Ginetta, Premium DTM cars, Premium OzV8s, Ariel Atom, Premium Caterham, premium original Mini, Premium Lancia Stratos.....All deserve to be premium above the 3 VWs (including the Samba bus). If PD had extra time and had done a better spread of Premiums I would have had no problem with them including the VWs, BUT the premium list is not all that good really.
I blame Sony, the GT brand is HUGE and should get MEGA funding....Microsoft realise that with Forza, I get the feeling Turn 10 get WAY more from Microsoft than what PD get from Sony. I also think the 3D coding was utterly pointless and driven by Sony, which wasted even more precious time and meant money was spent on coding the 3D portion of the game instead of spending it on a few more 3d modellers to get more premium cars in. Also I think Kazs vision NEEDS more funding than what he gets. He has a massive game in his head and tries to get it out as best he can, in the past he's succeded, but GT4 and now GT5 have been less than brilliant IMO. He hit his peak with GT3.
If PD remade GT3 with the best elements of GT5, graphics, online, Physics....it would be awesome and possible. Better car list in many ways too. Less pointless faff (then again am I guilty of rose tinted glasses syndrome as GT3 is my fave, I STILL play it!)
I agree about using what you say about using GT5 as a base for GT6, it's what they've done in the past anyways. I really do think that PD should also look at Forzas car lists. Lot's more variety.
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He would have had the brilliant game out if Sony had backed off and given him the 2 more years he wanted. Indeed Sony do need to be supporting PD with this more than they are but Kaz also needs to be realistic, 1000 cars? Jeez, he should have just kept to 500, 700 Max, tell Sony to shove it where the sun don't shine, make the game he wants, whilst being realistic, and he would have made a hella lot more money with a properly finished game then what he did with this.
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