Aussies! Get in here!

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Im being constructive by telling everyone about how crap Ford's & Holdens are, why people are still buying them is beyond me!

and how is constantly complaining about why there are no aussie ford's or Holdens in the game constructive? Double standards much?
 
Type S Tony
So Sick & tired of hearing Aussie's complain about the "why no aussie ford or holden" so im gonna tell everyone straight the reason why they werent inculded!

: There all S**t, both holden & ford, PD realised this and backed away!

/thread.
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And you seem to be repeating what you said earlier in the thread.

Did you buy a VN or EA once and get scarred for life? I'll admit those two cars were rubbish.

Whatever, I wouldn't wish to have your favorite cars left out/dropped from the game, so how about you just ignore threads about Aussie cars?
 
Watto
And you seem to be repeating what you said earlier in the thread.

Did you buy a VN or EA once and get scarred for life? I'll admit those two cars were rubbish.

Whatever, I wouldn't wish to have your favorite cars left out/dropped from the game, so how about you just ignore threads about Aussie cars?
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My favourite cars are racing cars, hence the reason for buying a racing simulator. if these cars werent in the game & it was just filled with regular & super cars I probably wouldnt have bothered with it at all.

And to answer your question no my first car wasnt a VN or EA, i saved up and bought a DC5-S integra, furthermore to that i actually put effort into my life & got a really good paying job which allows both me & my wife to drive around in anything decent.

atm my wife is driving a 2009 3 series & im cruising a CLK 500, still got the DC5 that im planning to turn into a weekend track car eventually.

The only thing I will give credit to ford about is there straight 6 engine when run on LPG only, the thing is a good work horse (i.e. perfect for taxi's) and have seen many examples exceed 1,000,000km, although they do break down & fail on a semi regular basis the replacement parts are super cheap to replace & any mecanic should be able to work on it with theres eyes closed.

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For anyone else that wants to argue here the latest drive.com review for the 2008 clubsport (used car review), If you read through the whole thing the article is basically telling you that its not that great. im sure i can find some ford stuff also.

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/used-car-reviews/hsv-clubsport-2008on-20110204-1agj7.html
 
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Yeah and if you read most of the motoring magazines they'll tell you that they are great cars - for the money, even the foreign press loves them.

You can get off your 'Im holier than thou' horse too, nobody cares how much you earn and that you think that you work harder than anyone else, to be frank your just being rude. You don't know anybody in this thread or what they do or earn.
People like all different types of cars, most Australians surprise surprise like Aussie cars. who would of thought!

Oh and BTW if you want a 'Racing Simulator' your going to have to buy a PC.
 
BroncosXR8
Yeah and if you read most of the motoring magazines they'll tell you that they are great cars - for the money, even the foreign press loves them.

You can get off your 'Im holier than thou' horse too, nobody cares how much you earn and that you think that you work harder than anyone else, to be frank your just being rude. You don't know anybody in this thread or what they do or earn.
People like all different types of cars, most Australians surprise surprise like Aussie cars. who would of thought!

Oh and BTW if you want a 'Racing Simulator' your going to have to buy a PC.
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Um I would have thought that just simply by being on gtplanet.net you would naturally assume that I do have a PC, even though the gt planet app for i-pod is very good, dont use PS3 to surf the net sorry.

BTW most motoring magazines are biased in some way or another, Advertising $$$ go further than reviews unfortunantly.
 
CarreraGT
Don't bother.

Thanks for the life story, but you're in the wrong thread to be ragging on Australian cars...
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Whatever dude, its a web forum, as long as im not breaking the forum rules i'll ragg on them as much as I want.

In regards to my life story(as you put it considering its not even a sentence worth, what are you in year 3 still??????):

 
Type S Tony
im sure i can find some ford stuff also.
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I found it.. it was on your HSV review!

Drive.com.au
FPV F6

The real alternative to V8 power. The F6 uses a souped-up version of the Falcon's turbocharged six-cylinder engine and it's a ripper. With the six-speed auto, it's an easy refinement/driveability/performance match.
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iNiff
I found it.. it was on your HSV review!
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Yeah you just forgot to mention the rough idle @ cold start, The dealership ECU updates that send the transmission into limp mode, the massive boost spiking from the turbo's, the amount of cars that have had to go back to the dealership due to camshaft grinding oh & not to mention the diff's that remain permantly locked even at speeds under 30k's.
 
Because Drive of all things is unbiased and the first place I look for an informative guide on cars :dunce:

I know that most local mags are subject to advertising dollars, still doesn't count for why Jeremy Clarkson and several other foreign press think that 'our' cars rival some more higher dollar large sedans though does it.:dopey:

Rag on them all you like, I could say similar rubbish about little Japanese cars... but I don't, because I open both my eyes and see that some cars built for different purposes and that some people have different needs and likes in motoring than mine and yours.

BTW I think that YOUR responses have so far been far from mature, its a bit pot. kettle. black. there I think.


P.S My comment about PC's was pointing out the fact that GT5 or any other console racer is a far shadow compared to the 'proper' simulations that are available for PC. rFactor iRacing ect ect.
 
CarreraGT
:confused:

If you have such a good job, why do you spend your day on internet forums?
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Truth is im self employed & work within the finance industry, should have been more specific when i said "i got a good paying job" although i didnt want to give out my life story if you know what i mean.

Today I happen to be quiet so I can spend more time on GT planet & playing online poker, although earlier in the week I was much much more busier so I was only able to find time during lunch's/end of the day.
 
look sorry if iv'e been offending anyone in this thread with my post's & responses, Im a very hyper cut & dry type guy who is strongly opionated, I dont mean to "offend" anyone its just the way i am.
 
Whatever, I like this thread so let's not let it digress too far.

The one thing you have to realise is that all cars are made for a different purpose. It makes no sense to compare an Integra to a Commodore because they are a completely different class of vehicle.

While I realise that Commodores and Falcons have some quality issues, they are still great cars for the price. In terms of performance, they compete with cars worth a lot more and as has been mentioned, cars like the Monaro have been praised internationally for their fun and driveability. Sure a Monaro is not as focused as an Integra or a Skyline, but it's not supposed to be.
 
Type S Tony
look sorry if iv'e been offending anyone in this thread with my post's & responses, Im a very hyper cut & dry type guy who is strongly opionated, I dont mean to "offend" anyone its just the way i am.
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As you have found out, there are some other highly opinionated people in here too, we are just differing in our opionions. :)
 
Ok, you obviously don't like Aussie cars. I'm generally not a fan of japanese cars (but there are some I would happily have). There have been many arguments to this effect on more than this forum.

There's one thing all Australian driving fans can agree on.....

Half of this thread is about wanting recognition for Bathurst as a world circuit that SHOULD BE IN THIS GAME. I couldn't be bothered going back through it, but I think I remember you saying you wanted this track in the game.
 
CarreraGT
Whatever, I like this thread so let's not let it digress too far.

The one thing you have to realise is that all cars are made for a different purpose. It makes no sense to compare an Integra to a Commodore because they are a completely different class of vehicle.

While I realise that Commodores and Falcons have some quality issues, they are still great cars for the price. In terms of performance, they compete with cars worth a lot more and as has been mentioned, cars like the Monaro have been praised internationally for their fun and driveability. Sure a Monaro is not as focused as an Integra or a Skyline, but it's not supposed to be.
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Agree to disagree, peace out!

BroncosXR8
As you have found out, there are some other highly opinionated people in here too, we are just differing in our opionions. :)
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Its what a forum is all about:)

Watto
Ok, you obviously don't like Aussie cars. I'm generally not a fan of japanese cars (but there are some I would happily have). There have been many arguments to this effect on more than this forum.

There's one thing all Australian driving fans can agree on.....

Half of this thread is about wanting recognition for Bathurst as a world circuit that SHOULD BE IN THIS GAME. I couldn't be bothered going back through it, but I think I remember you saying you wanted this track in the game.
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Yes I do agree that bathurst should be a recognised track & i did state that opinion prior to.
 
just a heads up (and another cheeky plug).
Part 2 of the SLS vs 300SL article for the magazine is going up now.

Check it out in the Race Reports section.
 
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👍👍 G'day Fellow Aussies - been a member of this forum for over 6 years, but not a heavy poster. Love my GT and have done since the original first release. No prizes for guessing what car I drive in the real world, and i am rapt that its still in the game. I have 3 in my garage (no SS yet) and have found a paint color that is very like mine (Delft Blue). Have taken some pics in game, but havent worked how to post them here.

In terms of Aussie content, I like the rest here am a little disapointed that we have been a bit short changed. One of the frustrations here is the over representation of certain manufactuers, but I think we are clutching at straws if we think we'll get an aussie track in game......there arent that many real tracks in the game now compared to what is available for them to develop, and for me, I'd like them to fix the bugs in the game that simply shouldnt be there, as they cause far to much frustration for such a quality game.

Also, I am disapointed that they couldnt have all the previous tracks, they have had some belters in the past that arent on there anymore - surely they can use existing data to upgrde thse to current specs rather than the reptition we current experiance.

Anyhoo, my 2 bobs worth - enjoy :)

Chris
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I love the V8 Supercars! I can only see them on SPEED Channel in the wintertime in Canada. But then again that is summer for you guys. I would LOVE to see Bathurst in the game. I think Forza2 or one of the other racers for XBOX360 has it.

As for the Aussie cars? Other than the Commodore, Monaro, FPVGT what other Aussie cars would be worth a drive? Not that I'm making fun, I just don't know much about REAL Aussie cars since the only one I have ever seen was a Monaro rebadged as a Pontiac GTO. I did really like that Holden Pickup truck/car I saw on Top Gear last week :)

Too bad for the Aussie Top Gear guys. Clarkson never plays fair lol.

Stig Blomqvist Rules!
 
Ha, don't worry Top Gear Australia is a joke anyway.

Probably the best cars to come out of Australia are the latest HSV's and FPV's (even though the HSV's look terrible). Otherwise the HSV W427 was produced a couple of years ago with the 7 litre Corvette engine and some of the older suff is cool like the Falcon GT-HO and Holden Torana race cars. Not to mention the Aus-developed R32 GT-R race car which dominated at Bathurst.

Also, the JOSS (see below) is set to be released soon and looks incredible. Both the Joss and W427 were available in Forza 3...

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I didn't know the Joss was in Forza 3, it may have tipped me a little further towards buying an Xbox.
What engine did it use, I think the original concept had a chev V8 in it?

@Franchise1985 - beside delving into Aussie racecars current and old, there are/were really only 3 big manufacturers that produce anything near sporting. Holden/HSV that make the commodore (SS being the sports model, and than R8, GTS, W427 for HSV), Ford/FPV make the Falcon (XR6 Turbo, XR8 for Ford and F6, GT for FPV) than back in the 70's the was Chrysler and they made the awesome Charger R/T (different to US versions) and Pacers that were used for racing.

What you saw on Top Gear was what we call a Ute (Utility) and is similar to a pickup, though these are based off the sedan variants made by Ford and Holden which gives these cars a unique place in the world, in that they can carry a load and still retain (most) of a cars dynamic ability. These actually have a huge following here in Aus and more often than not are used as 2 door sports cars rather than the 4 door variant by many Australians.
 
BroncosXR8
I didn't know the Joss was in Forza 3, it may have tipped me a little further towards buying an Xbox.
What engine did it use, I think the original concept had a chev V8 in it?
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It was released via DLC as part of a Supercar pack I believe. Not sure what engine it had in the game, but I understand the production version will use a twin turbo Mercedes V8 :)
 
I believe there was something in the latest Motor or Wheels magazine, that said it was nearing and mentioned the Merc engine, probably a deal with AMG much like they did with the Mclaren F1, crate engines.
 
Ah okay, I gave up reading both Wheels and Motor years ago.

I'm looking forward to seeing if Joss can deliver the goods, the car sure does look the business.
 
While I realise that Commodores and Falcons have some quality issues, they are still great cars for the price. In terms of performance, they compete with cars worth a lot more and as has been mentioned, cars like the Monaro have been praised internationally for their fun and driveability. Sure a Monaro is not as focused as an Integra or a Skyline, but it's not supposed to be.
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Sorry but I could not resist.

No they arnt good value.

They are good value on paper and when a TV host takes one for a quick thrash but as a Ford mechanic for four years I can tell you Australian model Fords are the most unreliable cars on the market (Australasia) and have been forever. Holden comes in a close second. There are TSB's ( technical service bulletens ) the size of three encyclopedias just for the AU2 Falcon. TSB's are only issued when things need fixing that shouldn't. They are so woefully unreliable Ford Motor Co of America has threatened to shut down the Australian design and manufacture plants for some time and wants to replace the Falcon six with the Explorer V6 ( don't get me started on those ).
For the repective dealerships in the area Honda had a box for parts that failed under warranty. Mazda ( same building as Ford ) had a cuboard. Ford had so many parts fail under warranty they took over half the parts department, ( we are talking warehouse size now) We had failed steering racks spilling out into the workshop cause they had no room for them anymore.

Whats worse is they charge even more then Mercedes for labour ( cause a Ford Mechanic needs to know his stuff ) and the prices on parts are absolutely ridiculous ( especially considering the new part will fail as quick as the first). But they are not selling a quality product the are selling an image and shallow people will pay what ever rip off price they are charged to maintain their image.

How about the BA? Needs three brake skims in the first six months because of brake shudder and thats being driven by a granny. After they have screwed you round if you are still under warranty and come back for a forth skim they reluctantly give you a better set of brake pads and new shims that they should have in the first place.

Within the first weel of working there a AU2 turned up with the steering rack hanging under the car from a factory designed error. Ha, even lifer Ford mechanics didn't own Fords cause they wanted to actually make it into work and they know they are a rip off to own.

Here's a few tid bits to wet your beak. Trust me this is nothing just a few I have left lying round.



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In short any extra part they put in a Ford is guaranteed to fail prematurely.
 

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