Malc, Thanks for letting me know. Will try to be a bit earlier. You guys meeting up in the chat? Is there a way to flag you're kiwi/ozzie in the chat?? Didn't see any status type stuff. I joined the chat from 10pm but no Kiwis/Ozzies. Had the most terrible few random races on Suzuka 4wd with people deliberately using me as siderail followed by them disconnecting at some point when they realized they were actually really crappy drivers and couldn't keep up if not bumping into everybody else.. Had only one good race on Suzuka with a non-GTP guy that didn't play like this was Ridge Racer *sigh*. I think minka<something> was his name. Good fella. Hope to see you all next week, will try to be there earlier and appease the gods to give me TV time M.