B spec

[riverbrat59]

this already might of been ask but is GT6 going to have a B spec added..like GT5 I like once in a while just to watch computer race my cars learn its style on tracks

 

[JEasy12]

You know as much as we know.

 

[86Debris86]

You're right. This has been discussed before. According to Kaz, yes it will. In fact it won't even be a separate feature like in GT5. You will be able to pick and choose when, and in which races, you want to use it. When will B-Spec be released though? Your guess is as good as anyone else's.

From September, last year: https://www.gtplanet.net/kazunori-yamauchi-tamir-moscovici-interview-jff-2013/

 

[riverbrat59]

I can't wait for that to happen ty for info..

 

[86Debris86]

No worries. Personally I could take it or leave it, but there are many people such as yourself who are still patiently (or not in some cases) waiting. For that, and a few other things .

 

[Anomaly]

I wouldn't hold my breath for any more content. PD seems about done with GT6 despite what they may have "promised" us. Maybe I'm wrong... I hope I'm wrong, but we were told there would be monthly content. We got December & January, then nothing for February, March or April. The game has been out around 6-months and we have a whopping one additional GT Vision car. Oh wait, we got the beyond useless GPS replay feature, but still no B-Spec, Course Creator or other promised features. I've said this before, but GT6 has already sold to it's main user-base, so why should PD put any time, money, effort or other resources into a spent game on an outgoing platform? Extremely rarely has any developer ever come through on continued additional content promises... GT6 is an even worse position than the majority of those other games because it's on (as I said) an outgoing console. PD is going to concentrate on GT7 and the PS4 while GT6 support will continue to dwindle. Hopefully the content we are looking for is near completion, so we may see it as a big update in the near future. But if it isn't close or if there are problems, we may never see any of it. Just look at the back of your games cases... Nothing additional was promised there (only in interviews and articles).

 

[pyrates]

I wouldn't hold my breath for any more content. PD seems about done with GT6 despite what they may have "promised" us. Maybe I'm wrong... I hope I'm wrong, but we were told there would be monthly content. We got December & January, then nothing for February, March or April. The game has been out around 6-months and we have a whopping one additional GT Vision car. Oh wait, we got the beyond useless GPS replay feature, but still no B-Spec, Course Creator or other promised features. I've said this before, but GT6 has already sold to it's main user-base, so why should PD put any time, money, effort or other resources into a spent game on an outgoing platform? Extremely rarely has any developer ever come through on continued additional content promises... GT6 is an even worse position than the majority of those other games because it's on (as I said) an outgoing console. PD is going to concentrate on GT7 and the PS4 while GT6 support will continue to dwindle. Hopefully the content we are looking for is near completion, so we may see it as a big update in the near future. But if it isn't close or if there are problems, we may never see any of it. Just look at the back of your games cases... Nothing additional was promised there (only in interviews and articles).

Well and the official GT website.

 

[86Debris86]

I wouldn't hold my breath for any more content. PD seems about done with GT6 despite what they may have "promised" us. Maybe I'm wrong... I hope I'm wrong, but we were told there would be monthly content. We got December & January, then nothing for February, March or April. The game has been out around 6-months and we have a whopping one additional GT Vision car. Oh wait, we got the beyond useless GPS replay feature, but still no B-Spec, Course Creator or other promised features. I've said this before, but GT6 has already sold to it's main user-base, so why should PD put any time, money, effort or other resources into a spent game on an outgoing platform? Extremely rarely has any developer ever come through on continued additional content promises... GT6 is an even worse position than the majority of those other games because it's on (as I said) an outgoing console. PD is going to concentrate on GT7 and the PS4 while GT6 support will continue to dwindle. Hopefully the content we are looking for is near completion, so we may see it as a big update in the near future. But if it isn't close or if there are problems, we may never see any of it. Just look at the back of your games cases... Nothing additional was promised there (only in interviews and articles).

TBH I'm inclined to agree, despite my hopes otherwise. I reckon PD are in a sort of crisis with GT6 and don't really know what to do with it now. As you say, it makes a certain degree of sense to just write it off and concentrate on the next gen version. Seriously hope they don't though, but if it benefits GT7, I say fair enough.

 

[bluecharger]

I wouldn't hold my breath for any more content. PD seems about done with GT6 despite what they may have "promised" us. Maybe I'm wrong... I hope I'm wrong, but we were told there would be monthly content. We got December & January, then nothing for February, March or April. The game has been out around 6-months and we have a whopping one additional GT Vision car. Oh wait, we got the beyond useless GPS replay feature, but still no B-Spec, Course Creator or other promised features. I've said this before, but GT6 has already sold to it's main user-base, so why should PD put any time, money, effort or other resources into a spent game on an outgoing platform? Extremely rarely has any developer ever come through on continued additional content promises... GT6 is an even worse position than the majority of those other games because it's on (as I said) an outgoing console. PD is going to concentrate on GT7 and the PS4 while GT6 support will continue to dwindle. Hopefully the content we are looking for is near completion, so we may see it as a big update in the near future. But if it isn't close or if there are problems, we may never see any of it. Just look at the back of your games cases... Nothing additional was promised there (only in interviews and articles).

Here's where my total lack of knowledge of how "hackers" do their thing leaves me confused and uncertain what to think. Someone's already on here posting about "modding" money. Excuse me? Modding cars in GT5 apparently meant digging out code that was already in the game and simply applying what PD built but then concealed from us. Hybrids were simple code-swaps. Knowing PD spent time on Stage 4 and 5 turbos then tucked them out of sight; knowing they possess the ability to deliver hybridding technology; not knowing if all this so-called DLC is actually sitting right there on the disc in front of me.....These folks have intrigued and circle-you-know-what and confused the issue for me so much I almost don't even care about 6 anymore, much less 7 even if it's spectacular. One of two things is 100% true: Either PD has forgotten "the mission", or we never understood "the mission" to start with.

 

[550]

No b-spec? what the hell? another thing missing in GT6,I can't believe... 🤬

 

[TT92]

I wouldn't hold my breath for any more content. PD seems about done with GT6 despite what they may have "promised" us. Maybe I'm wrong... I hope I'm wrong, but we were told there would be monthly content. We got December & January, then nothing for February, March or April. The game has been out around 6-months and we have a whopping one additional GT Vision car. Oh wait, we got the beyond useless GPS replay feature, but still no B-Spec, Course Creator or other promised features. I've said this before, but GT6 has already sold to it's main user-base, so why should PD put any time, money, effort or other resources into a spent game on an outgoing platform? Extremely rarely has any developer ever come through on continued additional content promises... GT6 is an even worse position than the majority of those other games because it's on (as I said) an outgoing console. PD is going to concentrate on GT7 and the PS4 while GT6 support will continue to dwindle. Hopefully the content we are looking for is near completion, so we may see it as a big update in the near future. But if it isn't close or if there are problems, we may never see any of it. Just look at the back of your games cases... Nothing additional was promised there (only in interviews and articles).

When I posted nearly this exact same content a week ago in a thread titled "Another Month Has Passed Where are the DLCs???" it got locked by the mods ;-)

I think the GT series has reached it's used by date now and after this fiasco of GT6 people will by very careful before they ever buy another one.

We may see a GT7 prologue by the end of the year on PS4 but going by how slow PD is at development and promises don't hold your breath for GT7.

We just may get some more content next month when the GT5 servers are shut and support ends. That will free up some resources but I still want all the bugs fixed first before more content is released.

Finally, I am still waiting for some one to explain to me how the GPS visualiser will benefit me. Someone that lives in Australia and will never own a Toyota 86 or drive on one of three Japanese race tracks with it. What an absolute total waste of time and effort! I put that in same category as Moon missions and cones!

 

[Jbaffoh]

Like everyone else, I would like the bugs fixed and the promised features implemented. But let's keep this in perspective.

What did we pay for GT6? $30-$60 USD? That will cover 1-2 hours in a cheap bar. In the 80's, video games would suck up quarters faster than that.

In contrast, how many hours have you spent driving, tuning, and reading about GT6 here? I suspect this incomplete game has given us hours of enjoyment (and frustration) at the rate of pennies per hour (or even per day).

We all want more--and especially what was promised--but it's hard to say we haven't gotten our money's worth.

 

[bluecharger]

Like everyone else, I would like the bugs fixed and the promised features implemented. But let's keep this in perspective.

What did we pay for GT6? $30-$60 USD? That will cover 1-2 hours in a cheap bar. In the 80's, video games would suck up quarters faster than that.

In contrast, how many hours have you spent driving, tuning, and reading about GT6 here? I suspect this incomplete game has given us hours of enjoyment (and frustration) at the rate of pennies per hour (or even per day).

We all want more--and especially what was promised--but it's hard to say we haven't gotten our money's worth.

Perhaps PD and Sony should consider cutting GTP in on any profits considering any interest in the game at this point is almost completely because of the community quality here. I'm now so far beyond the supplied content I'm interested in that I'm getting into the photo mode for the first time.
I've never been a F1 fan; I noted but was not much affected by Senna's untimely death, yet I'm actually waiting to see if PD releases the Senna content on time this month or if they let that, too, fall short.
B-Spec can very easily be laid at the feet of PD's desire to make the most out of the credit DLC as long as possible before releasing content that makes it easier to earn in this game. But to simplify it to that point is so cynical and almost evil that the moment I know it to be true, I almost have to forever give the game up. It's there, and it's coming...but if PD makes it paid DLC this time, will you pay?

 

[Jbaffoh]

Perhaps PD and Sony should consider cutting GTP in on any profits considering any interest in the game at this point is almost completely because of the community quality here. I'm now so far beyond the supplied content I'm interested in that I'm getting into the photo mode for the first time.
I've never been a F1 fan; I noted but was not much affected by Senna's untimely death, yet I'm actually waiting to see if PD releases the Senna content on time this month or if they let that, too, fall short.
B-Spec can very easily be laid at the feet of PD's desire to make the most out of the credit DLC as long as possible before releasing content that makes it easier to earn in this game. But to simplify it to that point is so cynical and almost evil that the moment I know it to be true, I almost have to forever give the game up. It's there, and it's coming...but if PD makes it paid DLC this time, will you pay?

You're right about GTP keeping people interested--they're doing what PD should be doing.

As for paying for DLC, GT7, etc? I probably will until something better comes along. But please understand that I'm a newby--I started with GT5 last August, so I'm not as jaded as some. Yes, I'm bored for a week between seasonals, but I'm also blown away occasionally by different aspects of this admittedly flawed and incomplete game.

 

[bluecharger]

You're right about GTP keeping people interested--they're doing what PD should be doing.

As for paying for DLC, GT7, etc? I probably will until something better comes along. But please understand that I'm a newby--I started with GT5 last August, so I'm not as jaded as some. Yes, I'm bored for a week between seasonals, but I'm also blown away occasionally by different aspects of this admittedly flawed and incomplete game.

I'm currently fascinated by which "premium" cars offer different interior colours

shoot me now

 

[Johnnypenso]

Like everyone else, I would like the bugs fixed and the promised features implemented. But let's keep this in perspective.

What did we pay for GT6? $30-$60 USD? That will cover 1-2 hours in a cheap bar. In the 80's, video games would suck up quarters faster than that.

In contrast, how many hours have you spent driving, tuning, and reading about GT6 here? I suspect this incomplete game has given us hours of enjoyment (and frustration) at the rate of pennies per hour (or even per day).

We all want more--and especially what was promised--but it's hard to say we haven't gotten our money's worth.

We don't evaluate our purchases against other things that are irrelevant by comparison. You evaluate the money you paid for a videogame by your overall level of satisfaction you get from playing the game, relative to previous version of the game, relative to other videogames etc. etc. etc. Most people wouldn't compare it to the cost of a pint of Guinness, or anything else that's not relevant.

PD set the bar high with GT1-4. It's only natural that people are disappointed when GT5/6 doesn't measure up by the standards that are important to them.

 

[Jbaffoh]

We don't evaluate our purchases against other things that are irrelevant by comparison. You evaluate the money you paid for a videogame by your overall level of satisfaction you get from playing the game, relative to previous version of the game, relative to other videogames etc. etc. etc. Most people wouldn't compare it to the cost of a pint of Guinness, or anything else that's not relevant.

PD set the bar high with GT1-4. It's only natural that people are disappointed when GT5/6 doesn't measure up by the standards that are important to them.

I don't quarrel with the disappointment.

But you're out of your mind if you don't compare the units of enjoyment with other forms of entertainment. Frankly, that's nuts. If $60 is fine for 2-3 hours in a pub, why is it so awful for 200 hours in a videogame? I'm strictly talking about cost per hour of enjoyment--not expected additional future enjoyment, with which I share your disappointment.

Forgive me, one of my degrees is in economics, so I tend to use rational tools to evaluate this nonsense.

 

[TonyJZX]

i think that comparison to hours per dollar enjoyment is fundamentally wrong

i didnt buy GT6 on release because I thought $90 was too rich

i might spend $90 on a good meal for 2 because I think its worth it for the 1hr I spend eating fine food

this is not the same equivalence

i dont complain about lack of B-Spec in Forza 5 because it never had it

i complain about lack of B-Spec in Gt6 because GT5 has it

 

[Johnnypenso]

I don't quarrel with the disappointment.

But you're out of your mind if you don't compare the units of enjoyment with other forms of entertainment. Frankly, that's nuts. If $60 is fine for 2-3 hours in a pub, why is it so awful for 200 hours in a videogame? I'm strictly talking about cost per hour of enjoyment--not expected additional future enjoyment, with which I share your disappointment.

Forgive me, one of my degrees is in economics, so I tend to use rational tools to evaluate this nonsense.

There's your problem, this is not a rational argument. The economics of the situation are not just pure numbers, there is emotion involved which skews the results. I expect to pay $6 for a pint of Guinness, just like I expect to pay $60 for a videogame. My last pint of Guinness was fresh, smooth, creamy and ice cold and that's what I'll compare the next one too. If I go out and buy another pint on sale tomorrow for $4 and it's a little skunky, not very cold and the glass isn't quite full, I don't say to myself, "Oh well that's ok because I paid less for it than I did yesterday so I win".

The price and value you receive from your next pint will always be measured against your last pint, not how much you paid for your cell phone or a haircut.

 

[alex1369]

I dont see the point of Bspec. Cuz there aint no 2,4,6,12 or 24h races no more!!
So whats the point of bringing it at all?? The longest race in the game lasts 24 minutes!!!!
Its completley uselles if you ask me. Cuz there aint no races that you can use it. You only do 1 pitstop in S class at every race. And the race lasts max 25 min. So its complete nonsence. They should focus more on fixing the bugs than bringing uselles stuff that dont work.

 

[86Debris86]

I dont see the point of Bspec. Cuz there aint no 2,4,6,12 or 24h races no more!!

Incorrect. There are currently no 2, 4, 6, 12 or 24h races actually. "Aint no" is a double negative and means "there is" or "there are."

So whats the point of bringing it at all?? The longest race in the game lasts 24 minutes!!!!
Its completley uselles if you ask me. Cuz there aint no races that you can use it. You only do 1 pitstop in S class at every race. And the race lasts max 25 min. So its complete nonsence. They should focus more on fixing the bugs than bringing uselles stuff that dont work.

Has it crossed your mind that those sort of races could well be added alongside B-Spec? You're right though. As it currently stands there is almost no point in having B-Spec as the races just aren't long enough. However, some people enjoy using B-Spec despite race length. For them at least, the current races and lack of endurance events wouldn't be much of a problem.

 

[axel edwards]

when I got given the game by a friend I was exited to see the range of cars which was a bonus but was disappointed at the missing b-spec which I loved to do on gt5 and had completed it I hope they come through with their promises but I will keep playing either way

 

[CBH]

I dont see the point of Bspec.

Your are so right who needs B-spec in GT6 there no room for it unless PD has B-spec for online seasonal races or B-spec Time Trials.

 

[86Debris86]

Your are so right who needs B-spec in GT6 there no room for it unless PD has B-spec for online seasonal races or B-spec Time Trials.

No room for it? Yes, because GT6 is so full of features to keep us entertained right now.

 

[Anomaly]

I don't mind B-Spec for longer races, but I would like it a whole lot more if it were treated like an actual team management simulation. I haven't given it any real thought, so I'm not sure exactly what that would entail, but I do know the B-Spec we had in GT5 felt really shallow & unfinished. Maybe rated specialties among the drivers, like dirt racers or ones who are better at short tracks or technical circuits, etc?

 

[alex1369]

Incorrect. There are currently no 2, 4, 6, 12 or 24h races actually. "Aint no" is a double negative and means "there is" or "there are."



Has it crossed your mind that those sort of races could well be added alongside B-Spec? You're right though. As it currently stands there is almost no point in having B-Spec as the races just aren't long enough. However, some people enjoy using B-Spec despite race length. For them at least, the current races and lack of endurance events wouldn't be much of a problem.

Yes it crossed my mind, i know they could be added. Just like DLC every month that was promised, and new tracks too.
The track in Spain around the lake could have been added long time ago. But it didnt, didnt it!!

 

[bluecharger]

I don't mind B-Spec for longer races, but I would like it a whole lot more if it were treated like an actual team management simulation. I haven't given it any real thought, so I'm not sure exactly what that would entail, but I do know the B-Spec we had in GT5 felt really shallow & unfinished. Maybe rated specialties among the drivers, like dirt racers or ones who are better at short tracks or technical circuits, etc?

GT5 actually touched on some of this as when you created a driver you could choose a profile based on certain attributes such as cornering, ability "at speed" (my quotes, not theirs), as well as temperament. By the time I was done with GT5, I certainly had specialists! When I saw B-Spec in GT4 I said "I didn't buy this game so it could play itself!". Boy, did I come around in GT5! With all the cars up for grabs, I wasn't mad about the help at all.

 

[Jack002]

I for one miss B spec in GT6. It was great in GT5

 

[bluecharger]

Incorrect. There are currently no 2, 4, 6, 12 or 24h races actually. "Aint no" is a double negative and means "there is" or "there are."

My deepest apologies for pointing this out, Debris, but your analysis fell one negative short, leaving Alex absolutely correct:
"there aint (negative) no (positive) 2,4,6,12 or 24h races no (negative) more"

 

[86Debris86]

My deepest apologies for pointing this out, Debris, but your analysis fell one negative short, leaving Alex absolutely correct:
"there aint (negative) no (positive) 2,4,6,12 or 24h races no (negative) more"

"Aint" = are not. "Aint no" = are not no. So essentially what he said was: there are not no endurance races. Which means they're are. Which is incorrect.

I'm fairly certain I'm right on this occasion. Waaaaay of topic, but right. I think. If I'm not, please PM me.