Ban on car duplication?

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Who mentioned trophies? Tap dance any faster, your shoes will catch fire!

Your post explicitly explains that, now you have duping, you have a competitive car for ANY online situation, or at least getting to this point became MUCH easier. And that is the EXACT point I brought up as the ONLY reason I feel the exploit could affect those that don't use it.

What's next...? The dog ate your homework, your evil twin posted that post under your name? The devil made you do it, you have a drug (duping!) addiction? Let me help you out with some more transparent self-justification...! :sly:
 
No. Words can only be so effective.

"I can always be competitive no matter what the rules are for online races"

I can see how you'd think this goes against my reply to Destinkeys, but it's not actually a contradiction. Basically, I mean that I don't have to limit myself to having a couple of cars and only race against car in that class online. Destinkeys was saying that duping allows one to have a car ready for every possible combination of hp and weight restrictions online, and this is impossible due to the limited favorites list , the hassle of managing all the cloned cars in a menu where they are practically indistinguishable, and the ease of just switching parts in the setting menu.

Basically, in my second quote I'm referring to being able to race, for example; Mini's, Super GT, and Group C at my choosing instead of only being able to afford to own cars of one class.

My first quote is on the ability to have 100 Mini's, 100 Super GT's, and 100 Group C cars, each with 1 hp, 1 lb, and 1 unit of spring stiffness different from the others. It just can't happen, and frankly isn't worth attempting.



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I should also add that I race online by finding a static room with constant race rules, simply because I think that's a better way to go about things. The whole concept of me being able to perfectly adapt to ever changing rules in a particular room doesn't even occur to me most of the time because I'd sooner leave the room than change cars all the time. Thus "be competitive no matter what the rules" perhaps would be better off replaced with "able to enter any online room I want". Of course, you're free to believe this or to think I'm lying and making it up.

I wasn't to trying to prove or disprove that you were gaining an advantage by duping, as that's a matter of personal opinion; I was simply pointing out that in this thread you're stating that you feel duping provides no competitive advantage, whereas in another thread you were not only claiming that it did but actively encouraging others to do so.

For what it's worth I actually have no issue with people duping cars/paints/whatever if it allows them to enjoy the game more. In fact as some people have already suggested it may be beneficial for some to have the option (cheat code etc) to unlock access to all cars from the beginning of the game; and this is something I would be in favour of, providing it is optional and those of us who don't want it are still able to play in the normal manner.
 
At the end of the day it's a game we've all paid for and can be played in different ways.

Your ways of playing the game may be different but that doesn't mean that either of them is wrong.

I have no problem telling you that I used the birthday exploit to get a 2J. There was no way I was going to grind around Indy for 2 weeks just to buy one car.
Life is too short for most of us to do that. If you're 14 with no family commitments and you honestly don't get bored going round and round in circles for days on end then good for you. Go for it, but don't tell me that somehow you're better than me because you have more time and a higher boredom threshold than me.

Why should anyone tell me how I should play the game I have bought and paid for? Just because the game is designed to become a grind after level 20 doesn't mean I should have to give up playing at that point.

I also back up my save before I make any unalterable modifications to expensive cars. If I spend a lot of money on a car and then ruin it (by my standards) I want to be able to revert to the previous version. I suppose some of you think that's wrong. Well guess what. I don't give a s***. You play it your way and I'll play it mine.

Also, I'm doing the season events on my son's game while he's away at university so that when he comes home he will have a big stash of money to enjoy whatever cars he like in the limited time he will be at home and able to play the game. He has greater priorities when he's away. I'm not wasting his money on the cars, I'm gifting my cars to him for the event then gifting them back again after. Is that cheating? Do I care? No on both counts.
 
would Sony can GT5 Duppers?

After 3.56 firmware update, Sony have banned many COD prestige hackers. Technically they are not hackers because they dont hack their ps3 or COD. They just find a shortcut to boost up their prestige level in Black Ops. Basically those guys are similar as duppers in GT5.

The decision of banning prestige hackers seems like Sony no longer tolerate people who exploit glitches. So is Sony going to ban dupers as well? :guilty:

I second the motion!👍
 
I see little point in discussing this any more, given the fact that many of the "dupers" here seem to believe that insulting people as "whiners", "cry-babies" etc. is the way to make their point. I guess there is a whole generation of people who have grown-up thinking that they have the implicit right to do whatever they like and simply don't care about how this might effect others. I guess this is indicative of society as a whole nowadays.
 
But that's the point. It doesn't affect others. If I don't have the skills to beat you in a race all the duping in the world isn't going to help me. All it affects is my enjoyment of the game and why should you have any say in that?
 
Lemme see... Grind Indy, or dupe, and race Nurburing? Hmmm... It's a toughie! 💡 👍
 
If you look at a game like Diablo 2, item duping doesn't directly affect other players but can have an affect on the trading market. If trading in GT5 was supposed to be a substantial part of the game then duping would reduce the value of rare cars and be something they might consider punishable. But considering trading seems to be just an after thought in GT5 I don't think there is any reason to punish those doing it.

Also, the 15th Prestige glitch in black ops requires the modification of a game data file, or to just replace your game data file with a modified one downloaded from the internet. It's much harder to do than in modern warfare 2 and that's why the ban hammer has been wielded so heavily.
 
Sony should ban everyone who dupling cars or parts. Its not the way getting a car was met to be. I hate all shortcuts and cheating on any game:tdown: There is no any excuses for doing that.
 
Instead of arguing whether Sony should ban dupers or not, or what is the proper way to enjoy the game (are you serious? who are you to dictate how others enjoy the game?:dunce:), PD should unlock all cars (or at least all cars corresponding to your A-Spec Level) in Arcade mode, in any stock color we want, without (obviously) upgrades but with the ability to tune race cars.

This way people will be able to enjoy the game without spending ridiculous ammount of time driving cars they don't like in order to be able to buy the cars they want.👎

Now before buying a car you think you will like you can't be sure if it handles good. And if the car is expensive you can't even sell it! What's up with that? Is the game punishing you?👎

Also the fact there is not a proper paint system is fairly stupid. For example, I won a Ferrari California in abu-dhabi blue with beige interior. I went to paint with the same red paint that in the new car dealer the car had a beige interior but I got a black interior! Why PD? Should I buy this car again?👎

Likewise when I won an Cobra it was in white (:yuck: I hate white and silver cars). But I would like to have it red with white stripes! That's impossible to do with the current paint system. Dissapointing!👎

If PD just unlocks ALL cars in arcade mode I will stop complaining! Till then I will continue "duping" and buying cars for free by sending them to my single alternate account. This is the only reason I still play and enjoy GT5 since it reduces the grinding.
 
I think anyone with a better car than me should be banned. It's not fair.

After all, I only lose because I don't have enough cars.

Right?
 
I think anyone with a better car than me should be banned. It's not fair.

After all, I only lose because I don't have enough cars.

Right?

It's only fair if I've got the best car possible at all times. Yeah, that's fair.

After all, I want every bit of an advantage I can get.

Right?
 
Sony should ban everyone who dupling cars or parts. Its not the way getting a car was met to be. I hate all shortcuts and cheating on any game:tdown: There is no any excuses for doing that.

And lose 90% of active players?
Nice joke
 
enough with "my cash my console my game etc..." you are simply cheating , no need to find excuses "i have three kids" , "i don't have time to race" "endurance races are boring" , if you don't like racing why buy gt in the first place , u could just buy need for speed or some other racing game where u don't have to spend your precious time " doing races " anyway , it's not your fault , it's PD's .
also i don't think sony can ban anyone for duping cars ,since PD knew what would happen when they unlocked the save game file .

Well ive built up a nice healthy list of clean racing drivers on my friends list that could fill 3 servers so duping doesnt even bother me ill enjoy the games lots and lots online..but do enjoy sitting there crying into your screen that duping has ended the world for you while I do

/facepalm
 
Who mentioned trophies? Tap dance any faster, your shoes will catch fire!
Me obviously. Tap dancing? You claimed that I was bragging, and I've seen the idea come up a lot; dupers love to brag about whatever and need to get every trophy, etc. So I though I'd fire back at that untrue assumption, be it explicitly stated by you or not [it's the not in this case, other have gone on about it more].

Your post explicitly explains that, now you have duping, you have a competitive car for ANY online situation
What it says is that I'm not limited to racing only what I can afford in A-Spec. I've told you, via the other quote, that duping doesn't produce a Swiss army garage that lets me have the best car at all times. I'd hope that anyone would realize that language is not perfect. We have ideas, but can only express words, and it seems that my words did not get the correct idea across.

I've also told you something you seem to completely ignore. If someone wanted to dominate a room, the one easy way to do that is not to dupe, but to look up the room restrictions and go buy the perfect the car.

What's next...? The dog ate your homework, your evil twin posted that post under your name? The devil made you do it, you have a drug (duping!) addiction? Let me help you out with some more transparent self-justification...! :sly:
Could you answer on the non duping methods with are far superior at room fixing? Like buying a car with stats that line up as close as possible to the room restrictions? It would be better than tap dancing.


I wasn't to trying to prove or disprove that you were gaining an advantage by duping, as that's a matter of personal opinion; I was simply pointing out that in this thread you're stating that you feel duping provides no competitive advantage, whereas in another thread you were not only claiming that it did but actively encouraging others to do so.

Well, I definitely do encourage duping, but I've never said that it gives someone a competitive advantage. What it does is give people more options online, instead of only being able to afford a Veyron, and only being able to drag race (which buy the way, you if a host, could limit to 1001 hp and 4160 lbs), I can afford cars I like and do races I like. I, as a duper, have many times gone into a room and not been able to break out the perfect weapon, because I either didn't have it or did not have it favorited. This includes my buying of every removeable part for every car. Greatest example was a ~500 hp ~1070 kg race I found online. The host did have the perfect car, or at least a very competitive one, in the form of a RX-7. The best I could muster was a 430 Scuderia at 1350 kg. On a side note, have you considered that one can really detune their car, if it was modified, to increase competition? I've actually done that, I've won and then lowered my horsepower until I've started losing. And while this isn't ammo for my argument, I'd like to just put out a friendly reminded that duping isn't about the need to win all the time. It's about the desire play the game in a way that's fun.

I've been duping for a long time, and I dupe en mass. The idea that duping lets people have a continuum in terms of car capability isn't realistic. And as I've said, non duping methods are a better way to ensure that one is best equipped for a specific race. Just be the host, or buy a car for the rules. I should also mention further that in series like JGTC and Group C, there is no Swiss-armying to be done, the cars are what they are besides your set up.
 
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I see little point in discussing this any more, given the fact that many of the "dupers" here seem to believe that insulting people as "whiners", "cry-babies" etc. is the way to make their point. I guess there is a whole generation of people who have grown-up thinking that they have the implicit right to do whatever they like and simply don't care about how this might effect others. I guess this is indicative of society as a whole nowadays.

Well done for going even further towards proving how narrow and selective your view is..
Shouldn't you be having fun playing your game? That is the point right?

You seem to fancy yourself as a bit of an intellectual, so I'll refer you to Devdevander's sig ;P
 
If you paid for said game you should be able to do whatever you want with that game. As long as it is legal and doesn't present a unfair advantage against other players, there's nothing wrong with it. Some people think it's unholy to mess with the games settings, but this game is so flawed from a "limited " aspect. Meaning you are limited to so many little things, painting cars, tuning cars, selling cars even. I can go on, and on about the little things that mess up the experience of this game. I beat the Sebastien Vettel challeng with all golds and got three versions of the X1. I also bought and duped 3 of the colored versions that I wanted (for photo's) Does that make me a bad guy? I mean they limit you to only having $20 mil and many cars cost that amount. So after you buy that car your broke. 1 car isn't worth all the hard driving you've done just to get a single car. It'll take weeks to get to $20 mil again, maybe even months actually. So lets say you decided that you don't want this car and want to sell it, you go to sell it and it will not allow you! $ 20 mil gone! The Ferrari F1's are expensive and you can only practice with them. Whats even worse is you get the 2007 model after you beat the B-spec mode. I feel sorry for those who paid for it. I got the 100 race win car ticket, and what do I get for my hard work? A Honda Prelude. I hope you see my point.
 
Once and for all, overwriting your save data continuous to duplicate a car or use tickets infinite is NOT the purpose of the backup feature indroduced with 1.5 (the latest patch and last opportunity to take position as PD to a problem which occurred afterwards)

Shame on you claiming PD encourages a exploit when they never had the chance to fix it so far.

They could have introduced this "features" very easy if it really was their intention.

A button next to gifting.
"Would you like to duplicate this car before you send it away as a gift? - Yes/No"
(spoiling the whole idea of a community feature)

A button at dealership
"Would you like to have this car for free because you don`t have the time, patience or passion to play our game? - Yes/No"

And how about a hint during online races?
"We noticed your car doesn`t match regulations, would you like to visit your garage and choose a car you never achieved legit to be faster? - Yes/No"

And most important a big button on the main screen!

"Would you like to have a bj because YOU payed for YOUR game and YOU want to do whatever the heck YOU want it to do for YOU!"
Seriously write your own game if you are not happy!
 
Once and for all, overwriting your save data continuous to duplicate a car or use tickets infinite is NOT the purpose of the backup feature indroduced with 1.5 (the latest patch and last opportunity to take position as PD to a problem which occurred afterwards)

Shame on you claiming PD encourages a exploit when they never had the chance to fix it so far.

They could have introduced this "features" very easy if it really was their intention.

A button next to gifting.
"Would you like to duplicate this car before you send it away as a gift? - Yes/No"
(spoiling the whole idea of a community feature)

A button at dealership
"Would you like to have this car for free because you don`t have the time, patience or passion to play our game? - Yes/No"

And how about a hint during online races?
"We noticed your car doesn`t match regulations, would you like to visit your garage and choose a car you never achieved legit to be faster? - Yes/No"

And most important a big button on the main screen!

"Would you like to have a bj because YOU payed for YOUR game and YOU want to do whatever the heck YOU want it to do for YOU!"
Seriously write your own game if you are not happy!

Would I like a button to delete all posts like this one, yes. I am sure Gtplanet wasn't started so all the members could argue about duplicating.:p If someone wants to dupe let them, you are just wasting your time moaning about it really, it doesn't effect you in any way so I can't see why you have a problem with it.
 
Once I acquire about 5 more Le Mans I'm just going to start duplicating my garage and give people free cars every day. I have basically every useful car on the game now anyway. Can't wait to spread the love.




Haters gonna hate. It's a game. Get over it.
 
Once I acquire about 5 more Le Mans I'm just going to start duplicating my garage and give people free cars every day. I have basically every useful car on the game now anyway. Can't wait to spread the love.




Haters gonna hate. It's a game. Get over it.

👍

Ask any of the people who've received free cars from me (or anyone else) if they're upset about the origin of some of those cars.
 
Disclaimer, I have not now, nor ever used "gifting" to dupe. I've gifted a second account a car to start seasonals with, because I want to troll the UCD from the start of the cycle for cars I missed on my first run-through. I've earned everything myself.

Why? Because I want to enjoy my game.

Do I care that other people dupe? Not in the slightest.

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Because you get nothing from duping.

If anyone wants perfect evidence of how duping gives no competitive advantage in a power-restricted room, they can go to Seasonals to check the Time Trials.

It's something many of us suspected before, but the TT'ers are sure of it now.

Having a car with dirty oil and a worn engine with mods built to "x" horsepower gives you a more powerful car than having one with fresh oil and an overhauled engine built to the same "x" horsepower.

Duping is good for only one thing: Having a garage of perfect 0.0 mile cars (which are not necessarily faster). The only "mod" you need to make a worn car competitive again is chassis refresh... and even then, most of us can drive around the issues of a worn chassis (chassis refresh isn't even on my to-do list for UCD cars).

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Was going to lock this thread, but the news item at the beginning seemed to warrant its life as a separate one. May still leave it open, but be warned: Posts that do nothing but attack others ("cheaters", "whiners", and, amusingly, someone called the OP an "idiot"... nice way to get an infraction, bro) will be infracted.

Another mod may come along and lock this at a later date, pending review.
 
Once and for all, overwriting your save data continuous to duplicate a car or use tickets infinite is NOT the purpose of the backup feature indroduced with 1.5 (the latest patch and last opportunity to take position as PD to a problem which occurred afterwards)

Shame on you claiming PD encourages a exploit when they never had the chance to fix it so far.

They "never had the chance to fix it"? Really? How many updates have there been since this *unfixable* glitch showed up?

They could have introduced this "features" very easy if it really was their intention.

And they did. That's why it's there now. You may have noticed it being there, because there seem to be dozens of posts complaining about it being there.

A button next to gifting.
"Would you like to duplicate this car before you send it away as a gift? - Yes/No"
(spoiling the whole idea of a community feature)

A button at dealership
"Would you like to have this car for free because you don`t have the time, patience or passion to play our game? - Yes/No"

And how about a hint during online races?
"We noticed your car doesn`t match regulations, would you like to visit your garage and choose a car you never achieved legit to be faster? - Yes/No"

And most important a big button on the main screen!

"Would you like to have a bj because YOU payed for YOUR game and YOU want to do whatever the heck YOU want it to do for YOU!"

Or a button under "Options" on the Game Save Utility: "Copy".

Seriously write your own game if you are not happy!

After you. You seem to have major problems with the game as it exists at the moment. Why don't you go write your own, and really show us all?
 
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