Battlefield 3

[CAMAROBOY69]

I have been playing this game a lot since christmas and loving it. BUT there is one thing in this game that drives me just insane with frustration and is very unbalanced. The people that use those flying MAVs to kill people. They hide somewhere on the map and fly these things the ENTIRE game into people killing them over and over and over again. Usually ending with at least 22/0 or 20/0. I know the engineer land rocket launcher will lock on but that does not work in tight smaller maps. So seriously how in the heck do you take those things out!!!!?? 👎

Other than that frustration, I still love multiplayer. I only play Conquest and spend most of my time going to the checkpoints and destroying vehicles.

I tend to find the MAV killer games to be easier if you just forget about them, I tend to find those games can be won by a 100 tickets or more. It does nothing for the objective if there's any more than one person with a MAV on a team of 12.

Another thing with MAV killing.. If you hear that thing near you, go prone... Makes it way harder for them to kill you...

There has to be a way to take those things out other than the engineer rocket launcher. They need to reduce the damage from those MAV. Its just ridiculous that they can 1 hit kill you. Just ridiculous. After months of playing this game, its really my only complaint. But its a huge complaint and huge frustration. Is there some sort of jammer that jams those?? There must be some sort of counter to balance out the 1 hit kill. Makes me so mad, just cowards that are doing this.

 

[Sureboss]

You can destroy them with your own MAV, R1 jams any enemy equipment (so SOFLAMs, TUGS and radio beacon), it's difficult with MAVs though as you have to trap them. You can take them out with guns, but you need a decent shot.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

I dont even know which class has the MAV. I am guessing I will have to unlock it. But I will do whatever it takes to take these things out. On large maps its easy with the land vehicle rocket that the engineer uses.

Oh another question not related to MAV but related to other vehicles. I am an engineer 90% of the time because I love destroying the vehicles. I have a rocket for land vehicles that locks on and a rocket for air vehicles that locks on. Well sometimes my team mates can mark air vehicles with some sort of Diamond with a dot in the middle. That allows me to lock onto the air vehicles with my land rocket launcher. What class does this and how do they do it??

 

[Dragonistic]

VEXD - Hardly been in choppers of late, tend to find I jump in one with a pilot who can't fly (not me ). Jets - I'm about to unlock the Rockets, that'll give me something to kill the tanks with, guided missiles so rarely work in air combat cos of flares. We need to go chopper killing again soon, dude, cos we kick ass.

I use rockets at all times in the jets for that exact reason, the flares make lock on weapons near useless without multiple people targeting the craft from land and air. The rockets unfortunately are not very strong given the small window you get to attack ground targets in most situations, they work for sure just not as well as I'd hoped but it has to be that way or jets would easily dominate tanks on maps like Op Firestorm. The main cannon against air targets however is very effective, especially on an unsuspecting helicopter hovering slowly.

 

[Sureboss]

I dont even know which class has the MAV. I am guessing I will have to unlock it. But I will do whatever it takes to take these things out. On large maps its easy with the land vehicle rocket that the engineer uses.

Oh another question not related to MAV but related to other vehicles. I am an engineer 90% of the time because I love destroying the vehicles. I have a rocket for land vehicles that locks on and a rocket for air vehicles that locks on. Well sometimes my team mates can mark air vehicles with some sort of Diamond with a dot in the middle. That allows me to lock onto the air vehicles with my land rocket launcher. What class does this and how do they do it??

MAV is in Recon. Also, the "diamond" is laser designation, you do this from SOFLAM (again, Recon) or from the CITV station in a tank, which is the final unlock for tanks. It allows the Javelin (and others, I think) to perform a Top Attack, which is far more effective.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

MAV is in Recon. Also, the "diamond" is laser designation, you do this from SOFLAM (again, Recon) or from the CITV station in a tank, which is the final unlock for tanks. It allows the Javelin (and others, I think) to perform a Top Attack, which is far more effective.

Ok thanks a lot for the replies. I figured there had to be a way to balance out that MAV problem. Also thanks about the Laser designation. Was wondering about that. Sure comes in handy thats for sure. Especially if I have a Javelin and can take out an air vehicle with it. IMO this game is very well balanced. ALways something to counter a problem.

Also where is the best place to see my vehicle kill statistics?

 

[Shaun]

gunny, how on earth did we lose that round at Damavand . We had all 3 objectives, then I died and spawned back at base to get a tank. There wasnt one, so I started to run back and 'crack', feel a bullet fuzz my view. Some clown sniper is parked at our deploy somewhere, waiting for I dont know what. I tried to identify which angle he might be, but he got me. So I came back as a sniper, found him but missed the kill because of my leet sniper skills. Eventually someone else spawned to deploy and with distraction I could mark him and get rid of him.

Then it just seemed like a wall of enemy pouring out the tunnel. I got the MAV up to spot them but by the time we got our flag back, it was 20-20 and with them holding 2, we lost by 3.

We got crushed at Noshahr too - although I had an ok round clearing out what, yes, snipers from the hanger near B.

Damavand, as you said crazy, how was it possible we could lose that .
All I know everything was peachy and I was at the end of the tunnel (their end) doing what I could to help our team, at this time we had, as you said all flags and were up about 75 odd tickets.
Noticed we lost our deployment flag so I ran back to find a guy lying down near it, easy I thought, just deal with him and status quo will return.
Shoot the guy only to be stabbed and loose my tags a second later from god knows where .
After that it seemed all hell broke loose and we couldn't even get out of our deployment.

As for our tank, where the hell was it? Throughout the round I either spawned on you or our deployment looking for our tank (as you know it's my favourite weapon ) but not once did I see it, including our spawn point or else where on the map.

Noshahr, I was getting my butt spanked as usual when I lost connection. I got back into the game near the finish only to find myself on the opposite team and in the tank of a guy who had killed me twice in my previous life on your team. I couldn't change team so I didn't fire a shot . The stats will say that I was in the winning team that round though .

Anyway I going to the shops tomorrow to get a mic, so if we are on tomorrow night together keep yours handy and we can test it out.

Cheers Shaun.

 

[bluemoon_19]

I just had to post this. Today me and a friend joined the game and this is what the score board looked like. Bravo to DICE they really got the team balance code set up good. I have been saying for ages to my friends that the team balance is 🤬.

 

[Blitz187]

^ I've been running into more and more of those types of servers lately... With one side completely stacked...

 

[Sureboss]

Ok thanks a lot for the replies. I figured there had to be a way to balance out that MAV problem. Also thanks about the Laser designation. Was wondering about that. Sure comes in handy thats for sure. Especially if I have a Javelin and can take out an air vehicle with it. IMO this game is very well balanced. ALways something to counter a problem.

Also where is the best place to see my vehicle kill statistics?

Battlelog. http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/gate/

You'll have to register, but you can track how far until you've unlocked gun/accessories, kills with every vehicle/gun, accuracy with weapons, you can also view recent games (it's limited to recent 5, but there is somewhere else where you can find all off them, bf3stats I think, but not sure.)

Edit: Yes, the only way you can take out air vehicles with a javelin is with laser designation, won't work otherwise.

 

[Monosukoi]

^ I've been running into more and more of those types of servers lately... With one side completely stacked...

The explanation is probably the 'skill level' which goes up the more you kill people who are ranked higher than you.

However, it clearly doesn't work. I've had situations against a team of colonels and up and get totally destroyed, even if our "skill level" may be matchmade.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

^ I've been running into more and more of those types of servers lately... With one side completely stacked...

The explanation is probably the 'skill level' which goes up the more you kill people who are ranked higher than you.

However, it clearly doesn't work. I've had situations against a team of colonels and up and get totally destroyed, even if our "skill level" may be matchmade.

I have also run into that several times with completely unbalanced teams. I just leave especially if the team is so good they start spawn killing us. But in all honesty, I was never under the impression that BF3 was supposed to have a true matchmaking system to match you to players of your skill. I thought only Halo 2, Halo 3 and Halo Reach had that. Those games truly match you to players of your skill level and it works VERY well. I would love to see true matchmaking in the BF or COD series.

 

[happycorey]

I just had to post this. Today me and a friend joined the game and this is what the score board looked like. Bravo to DICE they really got the team balance code set up good. I have been saying for ages to my friends that the team balance is 🤬.

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The problem is most people who play the game a lot are friends with other people who play the game a lot, and want to play together. What's the fun in playing against your friends? (sarcastic) It's easy enough to join session with your friends to unbalance the teams pretty easily, but I don't think I have played more than 10 WELL balanced teams. It's always a team full of people who don't want to defend the objectives or know how to. And it's usually a steam roll for one side. It honestly kills the game to be honest and I try to play against my friends as much as possible (probably more than playing with them because the voice chat was so useless..)

 

[bluemoon_19]

Yes it is pretty easy to unbalance the teams with friends. What i don't get tho is when a server says it has team balance on but it takes about 3 to 5 rounds for it to kick in. Since the max squad size is 4 how hard would it be to swap one of the squads for each team at the end of round. So the best squad on the winning team is swapped with the worst squad on the other team. This would at least make the match closer.

 

[VEXD]

Right MAV 101:

If you have gone prone, it is much harder for a MAV to kill you.
If they drop it on your head, you can die, but if you are prone on uneven ground, and they can scrape the ground and contact you at the same time; it's a kill.

If you have something solid behind you, like, a wall; you are almost impossible to MAV kill.
The MAV must be at full speed in any direction, and hit you with enough force to move your character, so having a wall behind you will make that difficult.
I am up the crane on Gulf Of Oman a lot, and when I get MAV's coming at me, I put the advertising hoarding behind me, or the main shaft of the crane. It's easier to shoot it out of the sky than it is for them to kill me.

You can easily take out a MAV using your own MAV, by locking on with the crosshairs, and pressing fire as soon as you have the lock.

You can kill MAV's with a Stinger launcher.
You can kill MAV's with an Igla launcher.
You can kill MAV's with a Javelwin.
You can lock onto MAV's with any lock on weapon, such as the heat seekers in the jet, or attack heli's, or the guided missile in the tank.
They will kill them too.

You can kill MAV's with any gun, but USAS worx best.

The best advice if confronted by a MAV which is obviously trying to kill you; and you have no cover/USAS:
Move.
Once you try to shoot it down with your pea shooter/other gun that's not a USAS; the owner of said MAV will relish this fact, and spend the rest of your life trying to kill you, until he has.

The other alternative method, is to work out where the owner/sniper is stood still, holding his arms out like Ironman just before he takes a dump, and shoot him till he is dead.
You can use any gun for this, as he will be defenceless and intent on crimping off that length.

But the USAS worx best.

👍


VEXD does not have a USAS.

 

[Mike Rotch]

As for our tank, where the hell was it? Throughout the round I either spawned on you or our deployment looking for our tank (as you know it's my favourite weapon ) but not once did I see it, including our spawn point or else where on the map.

I only remember it once - we got stuck behind it in the Vodnik at the start. I was trying to get around it to race to B, he was happy to have his A capture and put us one the backfoot.

We got rolled the whole night basically. Seine was another where it was a struggle. That was also frustrating at the start; in the stairway to C from A. There was 1 enemy and 4 of us and none of us could kill him. However he did kill me 4 times, largely thanks to someone reviving me but not killing him. I never got the chance to even accept the revive and the guy would just kill me immediately again!

Anyway I going to the shops tomorrow to get a mic, so if we are on tomorrow night together keep yours handy and we can test it out.

👍

Unbalanced

Yes, this types of situations are more and more frequent and will only get more and more frequent too. As VEXD says, it rewards more experienced players, which is a bit backward. In 12 months, I pity the guy trying to get into the game as he is going to be encountering a wall of Colonels. Not great for enticing new players...

Stuff about walls being BFF when a MAV comes along

*noted*

 

[Sureboss]

Why do people snipe at Caspian? Playing there with Dzidza and Blitz earlier, Blitz and myself in the chopper, doing okay (I got tonnes of driver assists, how many did you get Blitz, I only had a couple of kills) took out their chopper with some unguided missiles and then we go about Hilltop, anyway they get their chopper back and I see it on the radar, but couldn't get eyes on it, and it heads away, so I stay around hilltop, then it comes back and kills us. Yet we had about 4-5 guys around Hilltop, 3 of em snipers.

Seriously, you're going to snipe when they've got 2 tanks, a chopper, a couple of jets and they'll have maybe 3 guys on the ground, who will often move about by jeep? RAR!

Anyway, had an awesome game at Damavand after Dzidza left, 25-5, their best player with 3000 points went 0-8...surprising after we got our butts handed to us at Firestorm (hit and miss map for me, don't know why).

 

[Mike Rotch]

Anyway, had an awesome game at Damavand after Dzidza left, 25-5, their best player with 3000 points went 0-8...surprising after we got our butts handed to us at Firestorm (hit and miss map for me, don't know why).

I wish I knew how you guys go so big on kills-death margin . I mean, I often also go >20 in a match, but I usually then am not too far behind on deaths. I dunno, maybe I need more range weapons, instead of CQC focused ones.

On the snipers....yea, you know my views

Just had my arse kicked around for about 2 hours. Despite having more wings then the other side, we just got rolled again and again. I really wish people would watch their minimaps more. So often I am drawing fire from someone, and a team mate will just walk straight into the fire or leave me to fight my own battle.

Also two questions:

1) How do you cook a grenade (yes, yes, food jokes welcome).
2) Which Support LMG has the least recoil? I want to try level one up.

 

[RYAN]

I wish I knew how you guys go so big on kills-death margin . I mean, I often also go >20 in a match, but I usually then am not too far behind on deaths. I dunno, maybe I need more range weapons, instead of CQC focused ones.

On the snipers....yea, you know my views

Just had my arse kicked around for about 2 hours. Despite having more wings then the other side, we just got rolled again and again. I really wish people would watch their minimaps more. So often I am drawing fire from someone, and a team mate will just walk straight into the fire or leave me to fight my own battle.

Also two questions:

1) How do you cook a grenade (yes, yes, food jokes welcome).
2) Which Support LMG has the least recoil? I want to try level one up.

In my experience the MG36 is a very easy to use LMG and is the best LMG to use with a foregrip because of its smaller size/weight compared to the others, if you dont get on with that than the M249 S.A.W is a very widely used and reliable weapon. i like numerous LMG'S like the Type 88, M240 bravo aswell as the two above. i dont like the M60 or the PKP Pechneg as their size/weight aswell as their ROF isnt very good in comparison to the others. if you get yourself into the habit of using the bipod all of the LMG's will perform very well though. hope that helps.

I would like to know how to cook of grenades aswell.👍

 

[Roush_fan_99]

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[Blackbird.]

I wish I knew how you guys go so big on kills-death margin . I mean, I often also go >20 in a match, but I usually then am not too far behind on deaths.

I usually have a pretty decent k/d spread until I follow Omnis into the meat grinder.

 

[Hollidog]

Anyway, had an awesome game at Damavand after Dzidza left, 25-5, their best player with 3000 points went 0-8...surprising after we got our butts handed to us at Firestorm (hit and miss map for me, don't know why).

Its super easy to get points in this game, I don't rate myself very highly in terms of skill, but its so easy to just sneak around the back and take bases. Clear out a couple of dudes on the way/defending what you're taking, and boom, theres about 700 points from neutralize to capture. Then I see people in the scoreboards who don't even have that many points total. Makes me wonder what they do. Playing like this has got me nearly 130 combined MVP 1, 2, and three ribbons, with about 280 games played. I blame the 11 other people for my 0.9 w/l though.

 

[CMvan46]

Then I see people in the scoreboards who don't even have that many points total. Makes me wonder what they do.

There's a name for them.... Recon

 

[BLITZ_69]

To avoid confusion between Blitz187 and myself, you can refer to me by PSN tag; Ice. While catching up on the day's posts I laughed when I read the name and of course mistook who the person was talking about.

 

[Blackbird.]

There's a name for them.... Recon

Hey, hey..

I play recon alot and I not only get alot of kills I PTO. The TUGS is great in a squad. Such a waste up on a crane making sure no one sneaks up behind you.

 

[Roush_fan_99]

To avoid confusion between Blitz187 and myself, you can refer to me by PSN tag; Ice. While catching up on the day's posts I laughed when I read the name and of course mistook who the person was talking about.

I didn't even notice, I guess I was slow to catch on

I had an awesome round of conquest @ damavand peak, I only went 6&7 but at the very beginning I took off in the chopper and flew in circles around the pole in A and never touched the ground once, not even close, and boom flag captured 250 points, then shot down the z-11 and neutralized C before being taken out, sniped on the ground, nevertheless a squadmate grabbed it and I spawned in with a repair tool and repaired it and did a mid-air seat swap and dropped him off @ C and I finally crashed it. The coolest part, was that I wasn't even using my mike but the squadmate was

I was just getting off when mike joined in but you know how it is once you're in an aerial vehicle, You can't just quit until your streak is over

@ mike do you have a mic?

 

[Mike Rotch]

:

@ mike do you have a mic?

I do, I should really keep it within arms reach more often .

We won that round at Noshahr (was even for a while, then we rolled them) and then Kharg again we rolled them pretty easily (my notable moment was crushing a jeep + occupant by ramping a tank over a bern by C ). I gave up at Metro as lag was ridiculous. Twice I met an enemy on a staircase at A, got the first shot in and got killed, with them still at 100%

 

[Roush_fan_99]

I do, I should really keep it within arms reach moer often .

We won that round at Noshahr (was even for a while, then we rolled them) and then Kharg again we rolled them pretty easily. I gave up at Metro as lag was ridiculous. Twice I met an enemy on a staircase at A, got the first shot in and got killed, with them still at 100%

I just don't use mine unless others are. I need to check how well my mic is working now that voip is fixed, it's the cheap Sony one that I got for $50 but are now selling for $20

for me asian servers are the worst for lag to me but that one was south US but every now and then when I'm not careful when I pick my server I get that a lot and it sucks

 

[Sureboss]

I wish I knew how you guys go so big on kills-death margin . I mean, I often also go >20 in a match, but I usually then am not too far behind on deaths. I dunno, maybe I need more range weapons, instead of CQC focused ones.

On the snipers....yea, you know my views

Just had my arse kicked around for about 2 hours. Despite having more wings then the other side, we just got rolled again and again. I really wish people would watch their minimaps more. So often I am drawing fire from someone, and a team mate will just walk straight into the fire or leave me to fight my own battle.

Also two questions:

1) How do you cook a grenade (yes, yes, food jokes welcome).
2) Which Support LMG has the least recoil? I want to try level one up.

1) I don't think you can.
2) The MG36 is good, but there is some maps where it doesn't work, so I'd go for the M249. Nothing like setting up your bipod to cover an area and half a minute later you've got 5 kills! I'm at about 440 kills with it now.

As for going on those high K/D games, just a case of scenario. In that game I had 9 kills with my G3A3, 6 with a tank, couple with the Z11W, about 5 with grenades, 3 with the 93R and the rest with the M320. We had held them back to B and they weren't that strong (despite losing the previous match to them by about 120 tickets), I had about 10 kills in the tunnel, with grenades and at one point I saw a team mate flanking them from behind, realised he was shooting at them and then I went in with the 93R. As for keeping deaths down, know when to not attack, there's no point trying to take out people in those tunnel with a gun, because there'll be 3 of them with an eye on the entrance you're heading in to, thus the grenades. Great for a map like Damavand.

 

[Mike Rotch]

I only just discovered now (via youtube) that you can use smoke shells for mortar

Also, thanks for the tips on LMG. And grenades. A good one, that one.