Battlefield 3

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Just decided to reset my stats. Being a nooby Recon for ages when I first got the game made my Accuracy and SPM go to 🤬.

It shows as well. Over a quarter of my game time is as Recon, yet I've only got two SSs with it.
 
II-zOoLoGy-II
Next gen consoles will not be at the level PC's were at a year or more ago.
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Yes you're almost certainly right given the rate of progress that PC owners have enjoyed year on year. It would be next to impossible for consoles to compete although I recall some comments on here speculating about an upgrade able console by Sony (PS4?). I for one would quite like that as it would mean I could enjoy some of the benefits that PC owners currently have without ever having to actually learn how it works myself ;) Given microsofts links to PCs it's surprising that they haven't gone down this route already. I'd still enjoy the graphical improvement of a next gen console though.

II-zOoLoGy-II
I also play BF3 on three screens at a higher refresh rate and much higher detail than a console. That's why I have a gaming rig. Heaven forbid you have to learn something about how a computer works to use one.
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Having never seen BF3 running on a PC never mind a 3 screen gaming rig I can only imagine how good this must be. I'm sure it's amazing. Sadly I lack the skills you possess to enjoy such a thing. I'm not even any good at the game and can't afford the time it demands to learn how to play it better or to get it running on a PC. I do however have it running on reasonable quality JVC projector, with high end surround sound and can play from the comfort of my dedicated cinema room rather than sitting at a desk. I doubt you enjoy your experience any more than I do mine.

II-zOoLoGy-II
I have a bicycle because I don't want to learn to drive.
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Ha ha. Ok. I learned how to drive, but I didn't have to learn how the internal combustion engine worked in order to make my car go.
Anyway congrats to the OP for getting things up and running with your help. Back on topic I really like the sound of aftermath survival mode or whatever its called, but hope it doesn't turn out to be quite as frenetic as gunmaster was.
 
Daniel
Just decided to reset my stats. Being a nooby Recon for ages when I first got the game made my Accuracy and SPM go to 🤬.

It shows as well. Over a quarter of my game time is as Recon, yet I've only got two SSs with it.
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It takes more points to Service Star with Recon than Engineer and Support. Points required by Class for a Service Star:

  • Assault - 220,000 points
  • Engineer - 145,000 points
  • Support - 170,000 points
  • Recon - 195,000 points

I typically find it more difficult to accumulate as many points as Recon when compared to Assault or Engineer. Those two classes bring much more to the table that allows for point accumulation. I am pretty much an awful Support and do not do a good job playing the class.
 
Brett
It takes more points to Service Star with Recon than Engineer and Support. Points required by Class for a Service Star:


[*]Assault - 220,000 points
[*]Engineer - 145,000 points
[*]Support - 170,000 points
[*]Recon - 195,000 points


I typically find it more difficult to accumulate as many points as Recon when compared to Assault or Engineer. Those two classes bring much more to the table that allows for point accumulation. I am pretty much an awful Support and do not do a good job playing the class.
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The only time I ever play support is in TDM or sometimes on Op Metro with my P90. I ONLY ever use the PDWs with support. I'm about to get the American aquifer RPK and I have no more than 12 LMG kills. :lol:
 
I have plenty of belt fed kills, but I find the weapons much too inconsistent unless posted up on a Bipod. Even when deployed on a Bipod, suppression destroys the accuracy afforded by the Bipod. So one has to avoid becoming suppressed and also avoid moving too much because of the inherent immobility of using a Bipod. It is just a tough combination for me to make use of effectively. However, when a belt feeder is offered optimal conditions, it can be an awesome experience and that is probably why I continue to try and make the class work. :lol:
 
mangina
Ha ha. Ok. I learned how to drive, but I didn't have to learn how the internal combustion engine worked in order to make my car go.
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So the equivalent of this is learning to program in high level object code and binary low level languages as well as conversion between the two, learning the engineering level cache and processing architecture/procedures for the CPU, GPU, RAM, and all proprietary chips involved with controlling component and peripherals input/output... I could go on.

Certainly you troubleshoot your car when it doesn't start, has a flat tire, lights don't turn on, AC isn't cold, throttle response is slow, check engine light turns on etc... Or do you simply run away screaming "This is why I don't own a car." After all, you're not a mechanic... If your response is "I take a it to a shop" you would be surprised to know there are such things for computers for those people who can't understand the difference between a desktop shortcut and the actual executable file. Geek squad, manufacturer tech support, your neighbor etc.

You don't need a Computer Science/Engineering degree to use one; so stop making it out to be that. It's simple troubleshooting.

Apologies for completely derailing this thread.

My most used weapon is the M60; bipod, holographic, and controlled bursts. Mow those f'ers down.

When using machine guns the Marines teach you to fire in bursts that are as long as the phrase "DIE MOTHER LOVER DIE." (obviously not lover) but I say this to myself out of habit when I play BF3 as I am shooting lol. If you do that then your accuracy will greatly improve.
 
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II-zOoLoGy-II
So the equivalent of this is learning to program in high level object code and binary low level languages as well as conversion between the two, learning the engineering level cache and processing architecture/procedures for the CPU, GPU, RAM, and all proprietary chips involved with controlling component and peripherals input/output... I could go on..
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No, there is a great difference in understanding how something works and being able to design it, build it, dissassemble it, play around with, or even talk about in a unnecessarily condescending manner. I'm grateful you didn't go on.

At what point did i say one needed a degree to use a PC? If you re read my post, I intimated that such problems were the reason why I ( me personally ) don't own such a device to play games on. I'm not knocking PC's, you or anyone who knows how to get the most out of them. I'm probably too old and set in my ways to learn. I apologise unreservedly for being such a useless fool.
 
No one said or implied you were a useless fool; so don't try to put words in my mouth.

You stated "I learned how to drive, but I didn't have to learn how the internal combustion engine worked in order to make my car go." I replied with the equivalent knowledge of PC's (considering you don't have to understand architecture or programming languages to make your computer 'go') and even went so far as to provide a detailed analogy for you regarding troubleshooting a vehicle because you missed it the first time. The whole point of this is that it's not as hard as you are making it out to be. This misconception is one if the reasons why PC gaming isn't that popular. That's it.
 
mangina
This is exactly why I don't have a gaming rig. Roll on the next gen for better graphics etc and some bright spark who can combine the benefits of both mouse AND controller.[/QUOTE ]

I've quoted myself because you appear to have gotten your panties in a twist. What exactly is it about those first 10 words that rattled you so much? Get over yourself fella.
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Yes, the mature gentlemen resorts to insults over civil discussion. Congrats I will give you the last word.


Is BDM23 anyone on here? People change their ID's too often; I can never remember.
 
II-zOoLoGy-II
Is BDM23 anyone on here? People change their ID's too often; I can never remember.
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That is me. I changed it recently because I found out that it could be done. So I started putting in different things until one worked and that is the first one that did. :lol:
 
Brett
I have plenty of belt fed kills, but I find the weapons much too inconsistent unless posted up on a Bipod. Even when deployed on a Bipod, suppression destroys the accuracy afforded by the Bipod. So one has to avoid becoming suppressed and also avoid moving too much because of the inherent immobility of using a Bipod. It is just a tough combination for me to make use of effectively. However, when a belt feeder is offered optimal conditions, it can be an awesome experience and that is probably why I continue to try and make the class work. :lol:
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I love the bipoded belt-fed LMGs. They are excellent for holding down choke points and forcing opponents into an area you want them to go. The trick is to know where and when to use them (Rush Defense).

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/Gai-Gun/weapons/352878268/ps3/
 
I lol'd:
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We were defending on Caspian Rush and I was in the CITV almost the whole time. Pretty good considering I left after 6 mins cause I was so bored :lol:
 
II-zOoLoGy-II
Yes, the mature gentlemen resorts to insults over civil discussion. Congrats I will give you the last word.

Is BDM23 anyone on here? People change their ID's too often; I can never remember.
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Might I suggest you re read our little disagreement in full in order for you to reassess whether you've over reacted a touch? Perhaps you were tired of previously defending your chosen gaming platform and took it personally?

And as for resorting to insults? You appear to have responded in kind so out of generosity, I'll give you a final opportunity to again take the moral high ground and see if you're a man of your word.
 
Brett
I have plenty of belt fed kills, but I find the weapons much too inconsistent unless posted up on a Bipod. Even when deployed on a Bipod, suppression destroys the accuracy afforded by the Bipod. So one has to avoid becoming suppressed and also avoid moving too much because of the inherent immobility of using a Bipod. It is just a tough combination for me to make use of effectively. However, when a belt feeder is offered optimal conditions, it can be an awesome experience and that is probably why I continue to try and make the class work. :lol:
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To be consistently effective with Support, you really have to know what kind of support role you should play, and play it.

You're either an aggressive Support, running with a clip-LMG and aggressively attacking flags, attacking tanks and taking ammo to guys in the front line or protecting captured flags from recapture with a bipod and a belt fed, with claymores in the right spot and an ammo crate sitting about in a nearby protected spot for teammates to re-arm from.

The former is tougher as the mobile LMG's are outgunned by most AR's at distance and carbines at CQC, but its not impossible to do well. The latter is less likely to get you MVP's as you are letting others attack flags, whilst you are tail-end charlie ensuring captured flags aren't lost immediately.

Occasionally it's nice to be Rambo and run around with a belt-LMG but if you aint using a suppressor, you're easy meat for Assault class.
 
mangina
Might I suggest you re read our little disagreement in full in order for you to reassess whether you've over reacted a touch? Perhaps you were tired of previously defending your chosen gaming platform and took it personally?

And as for resorting to insults? You appear to have responded in kind so out of generosity, I'll give you a final opportunity to again take the moral high ground and see if you're a man of your word.
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At both of you - :rolleyes: :lol:đź‘Ť

Had a few good games today, First iv'e played in a few days. Running round Noshahr capping flags with my suppressed SKS was fun, Done the same the next match but interchanged between the AKS-74U and P, P, P, pickup a Pecheneg. Should play early morning more often, Played well.:)
 
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Mike Rotch
To be consistently effective with Support, you really have to know what kind of support role you should play, and play it.
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I usually play as an 'aggressive' support while using the suppression specialization. Don't use the extra clip though, got a fore-grip and flash suppressor to minimize recoil. Points are scored with resupply and suppression kill assists mostly, and they rack up quickly if you have a team that kills and uses lots of bullets. :D I use the mortar as means of enemy dispersal as well.
 
What FOV are the people with triple screens using? I've messed with it some but can't see any difference.
 
Finally had a chance to play quite a few rounds of the Armored Kill maps. I really like all the maps a lot besides Death Vallet. Not sure if its because its a night map or because of the layout. I just dont care much for it. The other maps a lot of fun. Bandar Desert is stunning!!! I love that map. I also realized that I dont care much at all for the Tank Superiority gameplay. I just stick to conquest. I guess I just prefer running around destroying helicopters. My dog tag says I have killed around 1,700 vehicles as an engineer. I am pretty sure the majority of those must be helicopters. I just run flag to flag destroying as many helicopters as I can.
 
bevo
What FOV are the people with triple screens using? I've messed with it some but can't see any difference.
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Absolute minimum; which is 60 or 70 I believe. The FOV settings on PC are to counteract the FOV they began implementing in console titles (you sit further away on a much bigger screen). The higher the FOV the more fisheye you will get in your peripheral screens, so I drop it all the way down.

If you want to go lower you can download one of realmware's tools that allows you to adjust fov outside of the constraints in the menu.

Also 12.11 beta from AMD is bringing a 30-40% performance increase in BF3... HOLY SMOKES.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6393/amds-holiday-plans-cat1211-new-bundle

If you're running AMD, upgrade immediately.

A 7870 on 12.11 performs equivalent to a 7970 on 12.9! What!

They will be releasing later today.
 
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Welcome to MBP Mike!

Edit: 30-40% HOLY SMOKES is right.
I dont own a pc ( at all ) but do play on a buddies at least onve a week. I have literally gotten lost playing because the level of detail at distance is that much better. Especially on an ultra high end rig.

HOLY SMOKES! I cant imagine what it would look like now.
 

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