Best sub 40k coupe...

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My vote goes to the RX-7 GTX. I bought a black one for like $15,000 (if that), and it turned out to be one of the best handling road cars I have ever played with. It's one of those beginner cars that you can really take advantage of in the more advanced racing. It's a very forgiving and accomodating car.
 
Theoretically, if the 'best car for GT4' under $40,000 means by terms of usefulness, then the HPA R32 Stage II would be the solution, it's unbelievable:tup:

With twin K04 Turbos, it has 410kw at the wheels at 19psi (1.3bar) boost, can rocket from 0-60mph in 3.2 seconds!!!, and has a top speed around 200mph! (320kmph):scared:

It shames even a Ferrari Enzo.👍
 
The Coupe debate is quite interesting. I've had this debate with friends many times before. There are a few cars out there that are called coupes based on the exterior design or function, but do not exactly conform to the definition.

The cars currently mentioned in this thread that can or cannot be called coupes based on the definition are:

WRX 22B - It's a two-door sports car
350Z - It's a 2-seater 3 door sports car.. Yes, 3 door! It HAS a hatchback
RX8 - It has 4 doors


To me, the times have changed. There can not be a definition for the word "Coupe". You can no longer say "It's a two-door car with a trunk" or "It's a sedan with the rear doors "cut" out". It seems that these days a "Coupe" is defined by a cars exterior look or by a manufaturers claim.


For me, I'll stand by the old rule of thumb:

A Coupe is a car that has two-doors and a boot (or trunk depending on where you are) and does not have a hatchback (as a hatch is another door into the car) so when you open the tailgate (rear luggage space) the rear window does not raise.

So, of the cars I mentioned the only car I believe to be a coupe is the 22B.. but, at the same time, of the 3 it's the only one I think doesn't look like a coupe!.. lol


Anyways, back on topic.. FD3S RX-7 all the way.. easy!



EDIT: Just did a quick googling and it seems that a car can have a hatchback (therefore a 3rd door) and still be classified as a Coupe.. dubbed a Hatchback Coupe.. So, a coupe can no longer be defined as having only two doors, a la RX8. It's all based on look now, I guess. To me, the new IS250 "looks" like a coupe with 4 doors so in my books it is now dubbed a "four-door coupe"
 
Well, usually a door (in automotive terms) is considered one in which a person can open and pass through easily. Usually this door leads to a seat. A "3 door" car is really just a coupe when all is said and done, as the "third door" leads to the trunk, which usually doesn't contain a useable chair. A coupe is simply a car with two doors. The 22B is technically considered a coupe, just as a CRX would be, or a Camaro, or a Miata, or a Skyline... that's all that needs to be said and understood.

The way I see it... take the GTO for example. It's first classication would be that it's simply a car. Second classification is that it's a sports car (rather than a luxury car or economy car). And then the third classification would determine whether or not it's a coupe or sedan, and this (should) depends on how many cab doors it has, which is merely two. I see the terms "sedan" and "coupe" as just a broad, yet discriptive adjective for cars (because cars are produced with either 2 or 4 cab doors). Now you know that the GTO is a sport car with two cab doors. The first, second, and third classifications for a car is what I consider to be the basis of what the car actually is. Everything beyond that is well... debatable, unless stated by the factory.

Usually in most newspapers classified adds for used GTO's, you'll see for a description: "two door coupe sports car." That's where my idea comes from.

But you know... that's just my opinion.
 
Hm...here in greece,the 22b is called "impreza 22b" without the "wrx".So previously,i reffered to the guy that defined the wrx spec C as a coupe.The 22b,is a coupe.So does an integra...
 
Coupes are cars with 2 Doors? NOT!!!

A Coupe can have 4 doors, infact you'll find the Ferrari 612 Scaglietti is a Coupe, it has 4 doors.. And the Enxo Ferrari is not classed as a coupe but yet it has 2 doors? The 550 Maranello has alos got 2 doors but is not a Coupe!!!
 
RXGem
The Coupe debate is quite interesting. I've had this debate with friends many times before. There are a few cars out there that are called coupes based on the exterior design or function, but do not exactly conform to the definition.

The cars currently mentioned in this thread that can or cannot be called coupes based on the definition are:

WRX 22B - It's a two-door sports car
350Z - It's a 2-seater 3 door sports car.. Yes, 3 door! It HAS a hatchback
RX8 - It has 4 doors


To me, the times have changed. There can not be a definition for the word "Coupe". You can no longer say "It's a two-door car with a trunk" or "It's a sedan with the rear doors "cut" out". It seems that these days a "Coupe" is defined by a cars exterior look or by a manufaturers claim.


For me, I'll stand by the old rule of thumb:

A Coupe is a car that has two-doors and a boot (or trunk depending on where you are) and does not have a hatchback (as a hatch is another door into the car) so when you open the tailgate (rear luggage space) the rear window does not raise.

So, of the cars I mentioned the only car I believe to be a coupe is the 22B.. but, at the same time, of the 3 it's the only one I think doesn't look like a coupe!.. lol


Anyways, back on topic.. FD3S RX-7 all the way.. easy!



EDIT: Just did a quick googling and it seems that a car can have a hatchback (therefore a 3rd door) and still be classified as a Coupe.. dubbed a Hatchback Coupe.. So, a coupe can no longer be defined as having only two doors, a la RX8. It's all based on look now, I guess. To me, the new IS250 "looks" like a coupe with 4 doors so in my books it is now dubbed a "four-door coupe"

Some RX-8's dp have only 2 doors...
 
Such as? All the road versions anyway have two rear suicide doors behind the front doors, they're 4 door coupe's or 4 door saloons depending on your definition of a coupe. I might stretch to say a coupe has to have no more than 2 side doors, I wouldn't say a 350Z is not a coupe, the same goes for a T350C, I wouldn't say a hatch on a 3 door car with a sloped roof stops it from being a coupe.
 
live4speed
Such as? All the road versions anyway have two rear suicide doors behind the front doors, they're 4 door coupe's or 4 door saloons depending on your definition of a coupe. I might stretch to say a coupe has to have no more than 2 side doors, I wouldn't say a 350Z is not a coupe, the same goes for a T350C, I wouldn't say a hatch on a 3 door car with a sloped roof stops it from being a coupe.
You know what, i totally forgot abour those doors >.<
 
Big fan of the Subaru Impreza 22B and Impreza WRX Type R. :drool:

Both are great out of the box, and complete monsters when fully tuned. 👍
 
Supercar_Killer
Y does noone know wot 'coupe' is, rexes r not coupes!

Have you not been paying attention to earlier in the thread, where it was explained that Subaru refers to the two door Imprezas as Coupes and that with two doors and a fixed rear screen it also fits the classical definition?

Also, could you please refrain from using slang, such as "Y", "wot" and "r" please?
 
What a tedious debate. Why cant we just accept that the edges where categories meet have blurred? People want a car to perform a certain way or to give a certain impression but they also want it to be practical so manufacturers are only responding to consumers desires. Look at 4x4's, people carriers and estate cars. This Audi is a good example of how concepts have merged:

audi_allroad_quattro_concept_05.jpg


Anyway I really like the FD3 RX7's, Sil Eighty and S15's but a Supra RZ is a good buy too for that money. I still get loads of fun from my FTO too :)
 
live4speed
A coupe is a car where the roof slopes down towards the back of the car, usually 2 seats but it can be 4 or more, the Aston Martin DB9 coupe is a coupe yet it's also a 4 seater as are many Porsche's. I think a coupe can have more than 2 doors as well, but the main charecteristic is the roofline. Some cars can be two or more things at once, like a car can be both a coupe and a hatchack like the TVR T350C, it's a 3 door hatchback, but also a coupe.
Cheers, good explanation of a Coupé imo.
 
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