Best Wheel?

[playnthru]

Fanatec wheels are very compatible with GT5 and work great. You have much more tuning options with fanatec wheels and calling them not compatible is a bit harsh.

Not trying to be harsh?

My understanding was they are not fully compatible. I read in here that they are? Maybe not fully supported is a better term.👍

Last time I checked Fanatecs website they were not listed as GT5 compatible. That was a year and a half ago so? Maybe it's different now?

I have had my T500rs for 1 1/2 years. I did have a few problems when it was new. However it has been rock solid since with zero issues.

 

[Fanatec...]

Fanatec wheels are 100% compatible and all functions of the other wheels work as well.

The ClubSport Wheel is now even supporting the rev LEDs which are not available on the official licensed wheels and with our Tuning functions you can adjust many settings like steering sensitivity which are not possible to change with any other wheel.

You just don't see the wheels listed in the options menu but that's it.

 

[Zathra5_]

You can't change degrees of rotation on T500RS or G25/G27 in GT5. I know one of the GT Academy finalists uses his DFGT in GT5 and T500RS in iRacing because of this.

edit: not because you can change degrees of rotation on DFGT but the DFGT has less rotation than the T500RS.

 

[Mahnegold]

The ClubSport Wheel is now even supporting the rev LEDs which are not available on the official licensed wheels...

How do you define "official licensed"? The Rev LED's of my G27 are working fine in GT5.

 

[Mahnegold]

You can't change degrees of rotation on T500RS

You can* http://ts.thrustmaster.com/download/accessories/Manuals/T500RS/T500RS_PS3_Rotation_Angle.pdf

EDIT: *except in GT5, I have overseen that bit of information...

 

[Saidur_Ali]

I think that as of right now, this seems the most practical for what I'll be able to have.. The G27 is affordable and sounds reliable and well supported.

Depends on if you want Xbox 360 support too, then get a Fanatec with the 360 support like CSR. I have a G27 myself, very good wheel for GT5. You should be able to get one for less than $200 new.

Fanatec wheels are 100% compatible and all functions of the other wheels work as well.

The ClubSport Wheel is now even supporting the rev LEDs which are not available on the official licensed wheels and with our Tuning functions you can adjust many settings like steering sensitivity which are not possible to change with any other wheel.

You just don't see the wheels listed in the options menu but that's it.

GT5 officially supports G27 and the rev LEDS work fine on that. Don't know about the licensing side though.

 

[Ripster]

Is $350 about the overall price I could expect?

Sorry I have not been the forum to respond. I just checked the Fanatec Website and it has been changed, the CSR XL bundle is still available including the CSR Wheel, CSR Elite Pedals and the CSR shifters set for $359.95 in the US. However I noticed that they have a GT3 RSv2 XL set that provides the GT3 RS v2 wheel, Elite Pedals and the CSR shifters for $259.95. If you don't need connectivity to an XBox360 that is a great deal.

 

[Raitziger]

How do you define "official licensed"?

Pay money for PD to get wheel icon to options menu?

 

[RacerXXX]

if money no issue then best is bodnar ffb wheel or ecci 7000

 

[Fanatec...]

Pay money for PD to get wheel icon to options menu?

Officially licensed wheels carry the GT logo on the giftbox and the product itself.

The difference is the logo.

 

[Mahnegold]

Fanatec wheels are 100% compatible and all functions of the other wheels work as well.

The ClubSport Wheel is now even supporting the rev LEDs which are not available on the official licensed wheels and with our Tuning functions you can adjust many settings like steering sensitivity which are not possible to change with any other wheel.

You just don't see the wheels listed in the options menu but that's it.

You compare apples with oranges. (See the highlighted part) The "official licensed" wheels don't have any REV LED's, which is the reason, that they are not "available". The game can not support, what's not phisically there...

And wouldn't you agree, that the working REV lights of the CSW have something to do with the working REV lights of the G27? I give you a hint: PS3-mode of your wheels is emulating what...?

 

[Fanatec...]

You are correct. Our wheel has features in GT5 which even don't exist on the officially licensed wheels. This is my point as well and I am glad you highlight that.

Some people think that Fanatec wheels have some disadvantage because they are not listed in the options menu and my point is to let them know that this is not the case. In fact the opposite is true and our wheels have more features and work better in several ways.

 

[Mahnegold]

They are listed in the options menu as what they are detected by the PS3...... Logitech G2x wheel.

 

[mrbasher]

It's amazing that Polyphony Digital, Sony and Logitech have let this go on as long as they have.

Kind of reminds me of the Apple vs Palm Pre issue: http://allthingsd.com/20090922/usb-if-slaps-palm/

I suppose it doesn't matter if you are not a paying member of the USB-IF. It's not illegal.

That said, I believe Sony requires licensing of the products attached to the console, much like Microsoft. What do you suppose Logitech and Thrustmaster pay to have their products officially supported and licensed? I wonder if their wheels would be cheaper if they didn't have to pay it...

 

[mrbasher]

Also... As for "best wheel"

I'm undecided.

 

[Lock2Lock]

Like i said the best bang for your buck would be the logitech G27. Just me

 

[Ripster]

Also... As for "best wheel"

I'm undecided.

If someone was to ask me I would choose a Fanatec wheel over the G27 it just feels better and is smoother being that it is belt driven. I started with a CSR wheel and I really liked it until I got the GT3 RS v2 which I cannot use for Forza.

However the deal that Fanatec is offering with the GT3 RS v2, CSR Elite Pedals and CSR Shifters for $259 makes this decision a no brainer. If you do not need a wheel for the XBox 360 just buy it. And to compare apples to apples the G27 also is not compatible with the XBox 360 and lacks the load cell on the brake.

Don't get me wrong the G27 is a good setup just not nearly the same experience as the GT3 RS v2 package.

 

[Zathra5_]

If someone was to ask me I would choose a Fanatec wheel over the G27 it just feels better and is smoother being that it is belt driven. I started with a CSR wheel and I really liked it until I got the GT3 RS v2 which I cannot use for Forza.

However the deal that Fanatec is offering with the GT3 RS v2, CSR Elite Pedals and CSR Shifters for $259 makes this decision a no brainer. If you do not need a wheel for the XBox 360 just buy it. And to compare apples to apples the G27 also is not compatible with the XBox 360 and lacks the load cell on the brake.

Don't get me wrong the G27 is a good setup just not nearly the same experience as the GT3 RS v2 package.

So you like the GT3 RS v2 more than the CSR wheel?

 

[hennessey86]

Fanatec wheels are the best in my opinion, I've had logitechs and they feel like toys co pared to the fanatec wheels

 

[Slash]

Fanatec wheels are the best in my opinion, I've had logitechs and they feel like toys co pared to the fanatec wheels

And I think my DFGT is the 🤬 lol. Man they must be good.

 

[Ripster]

So you like the GT3 RS v2 more than the CSR wheel?

Yes... it is my primary wheel. If it was not for the XBox 360 functionality I would get rid of the CSR and get another GT3 RS v2. The wheel rim feels better too, it is thicker and fully wrapped with alcantara. It also has better force feedback in GT5, but I am hoping PD will fix that someday.

I think for me ideally it would be the Porsche 911 GT2 wheel only because of the cross platform compatibility. But I would never go back to a non-load cell pedal set. Which is why the GT3 RS v2 package seems like such a good deal. For basically the price of a Porsche 911 GT2 wheel you everything in the GT3 RS v2 package less the XBox360 compatibility.

 

[sesselpupser]

This might be a good thread to post this question in rather than starting a new one just for this:

Right now I have a sim rig with a G27 hooked up to my PC. I kind of want to get a cheap 360 and PS3 involved too for GT5 and the last two Forzas. Which Fanatec wheel should I be looking at? And what am I forfeiting if I use it with my PC in PS3 mode using Logitech drivers? I ask because GT Legends doesn't like Fanatec wheels and I don't know if any other games are the same, but I know everything I play supports the G27, so to be safe I'd like to do it that way if I'm not losing any important features by doing so.

Sorry for the threadjack!

 

[fatkrakr]

This might be a good thread to post this question in rather than starting a new one just for this:

Right now I have a sim rig with a G27 hooked up to my PC. I kind of want to get a cheap 360 and PS3 involved too for GT5 and the last two Forzas. Which Fanatec wheel should I be looking at? And what am I forfeiting if I use it with my PC in PS3 mode using Logitech drivers? I ask because GT Legends doesn't like Fanatec wheels and I don't know if any other games are the same, but I know everything I play supports the G27, so to be safe I'd like to do it that way if I'm not losing any important features by doing so.

Sorry for the threadjack!

My CSW is working fine with GT Legends.

 

[Spike125]

This might be a good thread to post this question in rather than starting a new one just for this:

Right now I have a sim rig with a G27 hooked up to my PC. I kind of want to get a cheap 360 and PS3 involved too for GT5 and the last two Forzas. Which Fanatec wheel should I be looking at? And what am I forfeiting if I use it with my PC in PS3 mode using Logitech drivers? I ask because GT Legends doesn't like Fanatec wheels and I don't know if any other games are the same, but I know everything I play supports the G27, so to be safe I'd like to do it that way if I'm not losing any important features by doing so.

Sorry for the threadjack!

I'm using a CSR Elite across all platforms and it performs great, no matter what game.
Had a G25 before and a T500 for a brief time, but changed to Fanatec for the Xbox support and stayed for the performance.
The wheel has only one negative point imo and that's the rim which feels a little like a toy. Overcame it by fitting a Momo wheel and now it's perfect.

 

[FormulaKimball]

Here's my 2 cents... apologies for the wall of text.

I have had a G25, a DFGT, and a Fanatec GT3 RS v2 with CSR Elite pedals. The G25 was nice sorta, certainly had great pedals but the wheel didn't last and actually wasn't entirely happy with the feedback at the time. I think the G25/G27 and DFGT probably have about the same sort of motors (gear driven) and "feel", and I long thought it was pretty good but rubbery. I had high hopes that going to a belt driven Fanatec wheel with a load cell brake would really take GT5 to a new level.

Sadly, it didn't, not for me. The load cell is nice, but the more intense "feel" of the load on the brake didn't seem to match that well with where the brakes in GT5 actually lock up - maybe this is a support issue, but I race with ABS off and never felt like the load cell brake made much of a difference. The real thing though was the wheel, which unfortunately didn't feel quite as responsive though it was smoother. It felt like I was waiting longer to detect when the wheels (especially the rear) would start to lose grip and need some correction, or in most cars I was mostly just guessing how much wheel input rather than instantly feeling it. Changing directions is when you really feel a clunkyness to the belt drive. All this meant my lap times were all slower, anywhere from a second to five seconds. It actually made me start thinking I'd lost my touch.

After three weeks with the Fanatec, I went back to my DFGT (with modded G25 pedals) and instantly got all that pace back. The amazing test is at Monaco in the Formula Gran Turismo, with the DFGT I can use the sequential shifter and basically drive most of the lap left-handed, and I'm over a second a lap quicker than with the Fanatec. And even left-handed, I can instantly and *unconsciously* feel what the car is doing and make corrections. With the Fanatec I often ended up in a tank slapper because the wheel was never quite caught up with the car.

One other test - I still have the original NFS Shift and play it once in a while when I want to drive a 911 GT3 RSR that actually sounds like one. Shift has terrible input lag, but I can sort of get used to it on the DFGT wheel. With the Fanatec, it seemed to add a bit more lag, and became absolutely unplayable for me.

Ironically, the Fanatec did make that Corvette C7 time trial somewhat bearable... but the DFGT is hopeless on that event. I wonder if a lot of what works best depends on what cars you drive primarily and of course what game...

 

[hennessey86]

And I think my DFGT is the 🤬 lol. Man they must be good.

DFGTs are excellent, my problem was the amount of noise they made. Playing at night was impossible, with my fanatec it isn't.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

DFGTs are excellent, my problem was the amount of noise they made. Playing at night was impossible, with my fanatec it isn't.

That is main reason why I bought a G27, recently plugged in my old DFGT and remembered why I upgraded. Could drive as fast as G27 though more or less straight away.

 

[Lock2Lock]

That is main reason why I bought a G27, recently plugged in my old DFGT and remembered why I upgraded. Could drive as fast as G27 though more or less straight away.

I just got a G27. Hahahaha i am loving it. I am regreting ever buying that DFGT. I mean i went though 3 DFGTs.

 

[Mayaman]

I am playing GT5 with a Fanatec CSR wheel and Pedals along with the H Shifter and it all works fine. You are right that there isn't a profile for it in GT5 but there isn't one for the G27 either. The Fanatec wheels are setup through the G25 profiles in GT5. I will admit though that the force feedback with the CSR wheel is not as good as it is in Forza. But then with the CSR you cover all platforms.

I also have a Fanatec GT3 RS V2 wheel setup with my CSR Elite pedals and they feel much better. The FFB is stronger and the load cell makes all the difference. The shifter I have an issue with sometimes with GT5 where I will miss a shift and it is difficult to get it back in gear. This was never an issue with Forza. Downside with the GT3 RS wheel is that it is not XBox360 compatible, otherwise I like it alot.

I have used the G27 and there is nothing wrong with it... but IMHO the Fanatec wheels feel better, and definitely the CSR Elite Pedals or Club Sport Pedals are much better.

If I was in the market for a wheel combination I would consider the CSR XL package with the CSR wheel, CSR Elite Pedals and 2 Shifters for $350.

I hope that GT5 adds profiles for the Fanatec wheel as well as the G27 in the near future.,

Truth

 

[DriftEmotion FC]

Buy a Logitech G27, DFGT is boring, Fanatic has problems and bad customer support, and thrust master is just to expensive unless you have 600$ to blow but if you do the thrust master is a great wheel but G27 all day, it will last you a life time if you treat it right