BMW 120d

[Eagle]

You'd be surprised, I didn't learn **** about referencing, especially how they want it done in a real academic world.

I'd always thought Australia was an island. I don't think the BMW 120d will go slower if it is or isn't though.

 

[Famine]

I'm sure if he did a "detailed study" between the ages of 11 and 17, he'd have learned correct referencing.

Anyway, this is much more interesting than the presence or absence of a BMW 1-series diesel. I mean, who cares? It's just another car and nobody's forcing anyone to drive it (err... probably anyway. There may be a BMW 120d Cup... ).

 

[Eagle]

A quick Google backs your position from a number of sites. Still, we were always taught we're an island over here.

 

[Schrodes]

Still, we were always taught we're an island over here.

But what would we know, we only live here. Someone on the other side of the world should know better.

Answer me the following questions.

I'm sure I could answer any of your questions but this is a website for a car game and whether Australia is an island or not is completley irrelevant. I won't be entering into any more discussions on this topic.

Please quote your sources in future.

Looking at the standard of grammar on these forums, I think having a go at someone for not quoting a source should be the least of your worries.

 

[DelBoy]

Can't be and Island AND a continent, then Antartica would be largest island. Anyway, I hope the new VW 5l V10 D in the game.

 

[Famine]

Originally posted by Schrodes
But what would we know, we only live here. Someone on the other side of the world should know better.

Precisely - it's called an "independant third party". I am disinterested (meaning I have no interests in it, rather than no interest in it) and therefore my opinion would naturally carry more weight than that of someone with interests in the answer.

Originally posted by Schrodes
I'm sure I could answer any of your questions but this is a website for a car game and whether Australia is an island or not is completley irrelevant. I won't be entering into any more discussions on this topic.

Actually, it's NOT a website for a car game. It was initially set up around Gran Turismo, but has evolved since then. Granted, this particular section is about Gran Turismo 4, but crucially it was you who first stated a factual inaccuracy which has spawned this debate. Your section above translates directly to "I can't answer your questions, so will avoid the subject".

Originally posted by Schrodes
Looking at the standard of grammar on these forums, I think having a go at someone for not quoting a source should be the least of your worries.

And now you are changing the subject - trying to divert attention away from yourself. What's worse? Someone with poor grammar or someone quoting "facts" with absolutely no reference to their source? At least some of the people with poor grammar make an effort - you have made none.

I'm a scientist - if we quote a "fact" from somewhere without referencing the source, the "fact" is ignored as if it was just made up.

Don't start debates that you cannot handle being in.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Isn't Greenland the worlds largest county? I thought I read that somewhere.

 

[DelBoy]

biggest county?

 

[Eagle]

lol... World's largest country...

Even if we're not the biggest island on Earth, we're way more happening than Greenland. Bunch of freaking eskimos or seal clubbers or whatever.

 

[Dave A]

Don't start hating on people from other countries. Greenland has things going that you don't and vice versa.

 

[Eagle]

Don't start taking me seriously That's a crime in itself.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Originally posted by DelBoy
biggest county?

Yes, county. It's considered a county, or province, of the Kingdom of Denmark. Read for yourself. It's also considered the world's largest non-continental island. Well, would you look at that. Famine was correct all a long. Boy, he must be smart, or something.

CIA - The World Factbook -- Greenland
Address:http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/gl.html

 

[GT-Unit]

Hey, umm, yea.

okay.

I just clicked on the link to hopefully find some information about the BMW 120d. Well, I was wrong. I found a bunch of immature idiots arguing about a stinking country. I mean come on guys, don't fill up the forums with useless ****. If you want a debate, run for president. If you're not up for that, SHUT UP.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Originally posted by GT-Unit
Hey, umm, yea.

okay.

I just clicked on the link to hopefully find some information about the BMW 120d. Well, I was wrong. I found a bunch of immature idiots arguing about a stinking country. I mean come on guys, don't fill up the forums with useless ****. If you want a debate, run for president. If you're not up for that, SHUT UP.

What a lovely post. You must feel special, now.

Posts can wane from the thread topic here at GTPlanet. So, get use to it, or leave.

 

[l33tc4k30fd00m]

Originally posted by GT-Unit
Hey, umm, yea.

okay.

I just clicked on the link to hopefully find some information about the BMW 120d. Well, I was wrong. I found a bunch of immature idiots arguing about a stinking country. I mean come on guys, don't fill up the forums with useless ****. If you want a debate, run for president. If you're not up for that, SHUT UP.

Funny, I couldn't find any infomation about the 120d in your post either. Frankly I am shocked and I will be killing myself later tonight.

 

[Jugend]

Originally posted by Solid Lifters
Posts can wane from the thread topic here at GTPlanet.

It's one of the things I appreciate with this forum.

 

[Dave A]

Originally posted by GT-Unit
Hey, umm, yea.

okay.

I just clicked on the link to hopefully find some information about the BMW 120d. Well, I was wrong. I found a bunch of immature idiots arguing about a stinking country. I mean come on guys, don't fill up the forums with useless ****. If you want a debate, run for president. If you're not up for that, SHUT UP.

Hey, new member decides what right and wrong here. He has a point about going off topic but it's hardley his place when theres plenty of mod's here that can do all the telling off and they haven't complained at this yet.

 

[Famine]

Originally posted by GT-Unit
Hey, umm, yea.

okay.

I just clicked on the link to hopefully find some information about the BMW 120d. Well, I was wrong. I found a bunch of immature idiots arguing about a stinking country. I mean come on guys, don't fill up the forums with useless ****. If you want a debate, run for president. If you're not up for that, SHUT UP.

I'm not American, ergo I cannot run for president. Feel free to do it yourself though.

And don't, for crying out loud, say that another country is "stinking". If you think Schrodes and I were disagreeing, wait until you see the Australian reaction to that gem.

Immature for talking about a "stinking" country. Says the 15 year old.

 

[MadduckUK]

dead seals must smell after a while... though i thaught it was Canadians that enjoyed going clubbing.. hmm

 

[Eagle]

Originally posted by Solid Lifters
What a lovely post. You must feel special, now.

Posts can wane from the thread topic here at GTPlanet. So, get use to it, or leave.

And sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. We hit on other people for going off topic, I can't see this getting more off topic without the use of a penguin, a whale, a baseball bat and butter.

Originally posted by l33tc4k30fd00m
Funny, I couldn't find any infomation about the 120d in your post either. Frankly I am shocked and I will be killing myself later tonight.

Means I still have a few hours for you to mail me your copy of Prologue if you have one. If not, you're of no use to society. Start dying already. Like, properly, none of this Tibetan philosopher Sylvia Plath crap.

Originally posted by Famine
Says the 15 year old.

Irrelevant point award goes to, Famine! Age has nothing to do with maturity. I'll grant you he hasn't displayed much anyway but it's still not the sort of comment you should make. I'm also curious - what nationality were you formerly?

Oh and just so I'm on topic the 130d rules you all. What? 120d? You sure? Uh, right, cool, 120d owns you all then. Yeah.

Edit: Typo'd penguin, unbelievable.

 

[revaddict]

Originally posted by Famine
The "little island" (9th largest island on Earth) is actually IN Europe, so your assertion that "europeans [...] are too cheap and compromise their driving experience for 20cents a litre less" is false. Oh, and of the 300 million population of the European Union, 20 percent of them are Brits - so regardless of your claims, 20 per cent of European drivers pay MORE for diesel than petrol. I'd estimate that less than 30% of cars sold in the UK, and less than 40% in the EU, are derv-burners - but no you must be right that we all drive diesels.

Generalisations are ALL wrong. Including that one.

I'm half Italian and Half Japanese. I'm a uni student (well, almost finished) in London actually. When I filled up my Celica Tsport last time at a BP garage it cost me 45quid. absolutely ridiculous. I don't know what you're on about, but, I actually respect the brits for taxing diesel as much as gasoline, leading to less diesels on the road. But when i go to Italy or Belgium or France, people buy diesels pretending to have performance cars.

But, diesel engines no matter how sophisticated they're getting now, are not performance engines, never will be. No matter what the numbers say, anybody with a minimal amount of racing or performance driving experience will know that in practice, they are friggen slow. For instance, one of my cousin is so proud of his chipped 3 litre TDI Audi with "apparantly" 200hp, got totally and completely smoked by my friend's old 1.4 civic (don't even wanna compare against my tsport). Sure they "pull" but all the Gs and torque without acceleration. heck, my bros 60hp 1.2 punto has had the same straight line acceleration as a focus tdci with apparantly 110hp. These engines suck, slow, pathetic to drive. not even worth mentioning for circuits.

oh and generalisation are a common thing in life. if they are not made, we cannot discuss any issue that surround our society... generalisation is a necessity for discourse... grow up.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Originally posted by Eagle
And sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. We hit on other people for going off topic, I can't see this getting more off topic without the use of a penguin, a whale, a baseball bat and butter.

Butter? You don't play baseball, do you?

Well, I'll tell ya this much. Sarcasm is a whole lot of fun. Plus, it's the only form of wit that an indivdiual can handle sometimes. And from what I read in GT- Unit's post, I felt using a more sophisticated form of wit would have made his head explode.

I justify it's use in my post. Look at what GT-Unit was complaining about. He thought he was clicking on a link for info on the BMW 120d. If he had bothered to read my post, he would have known what it was all about. He then calls me imature, and stupid? Look how imature his post was! Look how stupid it was!

My post was for providing correct and detailed information about a topic subject that came up in a thread. There was no need for him to respond to me for the way he did. Plus, his attitude was quite inappropriate. Sure, some posts have "attitude," but it's done so in a playful manner. Ther was nothing playful about his post.

Choose more wisely the next time you feel the need to defend somebody.

 

[l33tc4k30fd00m]

Originally posted by Eagle
Means I still have a few hours for you to mail me your copy of Prologue if you have one. If not, you're of no use to society. Start dying already. Like, properly, none of this Tibetan philosopher Sylvia Plath crap.

Ooooooh, someone got out of the wrong side of bed this morning!

And ya know... I really was gonna go with the dying thing and all... But then I thought "nah".

Oh and I'll be keeping my copy if you don't mind. KTHXBYE.

 

[Famine]

Originally posted by Eagle
I'm also curious - what nationality were you formerly?

Same one I am now... What a curious question.

Originally posted by revaddict
oh and generalisation are a common thing in life. if they are not made, we cannot discuss any issue that surround our society... generalisation is a necessity for discourse... grow up.

I'm not totally sure why you quoted my entire post, and only had this small paragraph at the end in relevance to it. Perhaps you thought I was making the statement I was refuting?

Nonetheless, generalisations are ALL wrong - you see there was actually a joke contained within that, subtle though it wasn't. Saying "All generalisations are wrong" is fundamentally ironic, because the statement itself is also a generalisation, so thus wrong - making generalisations right, making the statement right, making generalisations wrong and... It's all so lovely and convoluted.

Nonetheless, if you cannot "discourse" without ridiculous generalisations, you're an idiot. Oh sure, there's approximate generalisations which ring true, but they aren't wholly true. In this case though, the generalisation was that "all Europeans are cheap so therefore drive diesels" (a paraphrase) which is 100% wrong, since, as I stated, diesels account for less than 40% of all new car sales in Europe. And as for "all diesels are slow", someone please go and tell Mercedes.

 

[revaddict]

Originally posted by Famine
Same one I am now... What a curious question.



I'm not totally sure why you quoted my entire post, and only had this small paragraph at the end in relevance to it. Perhaps you thought I was making the statement I was refuting?

Nonetheless, generalisations are ALL wrong - you see there was actually a joke contained within that, subtle though it wasn't. Saying "All generalisations are wrong" is fundamentally ironic, because the statement itself is also a generalisation, so thus wrong - making generalisations right, making the statement right, making generalisations wrong and... It's all so lovely and convoluted.

Nonetheless, if you cannot "discourse" without ridiculous generalisations, you're an idiot. Oh sure, there's approximate generalisations which ring true, but they aren't wholly true. In this case though, the generalisation was that "all Europeans are cheap so therefore drive diesels" (a paraphrase) which is 100% wrong, since, as I stated, diesels account for less than 40% of all new car sales in Europe. And as for "all diesels are slow", someone please go and tell Mercedes.

oh wait, i remember you now... You're the guy who keeps callin people names (i would quit that, its rude and annoying)... anyways. Regarding the quotations i just use it to direct a certain comment a at specific person.

anyhow, although i believe i'm wasting my time on insignificant technicalities in order to enlighten you, if you review, I said "not like cheap europeans (...)". This doesn't imply all europeans are cheap. Perhaps I was abit harsh but from my personal experience there is definitely a fallacious belief in Europe (mainly the continent , by a majority of diesel enthusiasts, who are becoming increasingly significant) that diesels do out-perform performance gasoline, once again in general. These enthusiats do exist in the UK as well, particularily those naive fools who believe the pointless (but entertaining) stupidity of people such as Jeremy Clarkson.

Now, I'm not disputing that modern diesel engines have come a long way and are comparable to gasoline engines for daily applications... but in terms of performance, they suck. Nothing makes me laugh harder than to see a big shiny new 50k benz make a big cloud of black smoke as it accelerates away.

 

[Famine]

Originally posted by revaddict
if you review, I said "not like cheap europeans (...)"

Read your own posts once in a while.

Originally posted by revaddict
Not like europeans who are too cheap and compromise their driving experience for 20cents a litre less.

I called no-one "names" in my last message, unless the conjecture I made applies to you.

Feel free to mention all the insignificent technicalities you can muster - if they help your case, then they can't be all that insignificent.

For the record, I am no fan of diesel cars - diesel combustion is the only known source of 3-nitrobenzathone, the third most carcinogenic compound known to man, for a start.

 

[GT-Unit]

hey revvadict, i've got some advice for you. DONT MESS WITH FAMINE!!! He's a scientist, he'll come up with something no matter what, and usually, he's right. So take my word for it.

 

[kinigitt]

Before some Mod kills this one, I would just like to say... DIESEL-POWERED PENGUIN!

 

[Eagle]

I was hoping someone would use the penguin...

Famine: You said you can't run for President. I was under the impression you can't become the President of the USA if you were born in another country. So I was asking what country you were from originally... I assumed that would have also been your nationality at least for some time.

SL: I don't play baseball, but butter makes everything run smoother. I wasn't leaping heroically to GTUnit's defence, the guy is by all accounts a douche and managed to back it up pretty nicely a few times in a row. I was just commenting on a few choice things. As I said earlier in another thread, I know higher forms of wit are often wasted, and sarcasm can be pretty gratifying at times.

beefcake: Hippie.

 

[Uncle Harry]

Originally posted by Eagle
I was hoping someone would use the penguin...

Famine: You said you can't run for President. I was under the impression you can't become the President of the USA if you were born in another country. So I was asking what country you were from originally... I assumed that would have also been your nationality at least for some time.

Eagle, I will save Famine some typing time.
He is from Yorkshire England. I believe he is still living in England.
I wonder what gave you the idea he is American?

Also have you ever had Roast Beef and Yorkshire Pudding?