Body modding, custom tuning and GT5...

I would drive all of those cars. The BEST part of driving those garbage paint job cars would be if they had an exquisite damage physics engine! It would be SWEET to ram the VW Haribo into the Rainbow Honda at 100 MPH in opposite directions lol.
 
You know what...we're just gonna have to accept that SOMEONE'S gonna gripe about the level of customization allowed in GT..."too little!", or "too much!"...personally, I'd rather have the options, as much as I'd hate to see ricers online...
 
ok so i remember back in the day lol when i played the first gran turismo and gran turismo 2 you could mod the cars but to racing standards i really like the feeling of taking something stock and turning it into a thuerbread (<sorry for spelling mistake) racing machine for instance like im actually doing in real life where i am turning my ph2 106 gti into a maxi rally car which is also what i would love to do in game also i am miffed at the so far no show of rally cars :( this was one another element i loved. any who i need to go back to work on my pug now :) lol
 
I would like PD to take back something similar to the racing modification in GT/GT2, and you should be able to choose between different paint schemes that have excisted in real life! Would be a blast in online events I think.. :dopey:

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And it still has nothing to do with this thread :).
Regardless of if you like the game or not, there are one or two bits PD could lear from Turn 10 and actually improve GT with. It would take a narrow minded person to beleieve that you have nothing to learn from anyone else in any walk of life.
 
I hope that there isn't alot of problems between the car manufacturers and the game producers. I hear some companies won't allow body kits or modding for the car they are giving the licensing for.
 
I hope that there isn't alot of problems between the car manufacturers and the game producers. I hear some companies won't allow body kits or modding for the car they are giving the licensing for.

Then so be it. That is their choice, I doubt very much any japanese car company would refuse for their cars to be modded and thats all I really care about putting kits on. Nissan would probably encourage it lol. I'm sure the more serious (ferrari, porsche, etc) companies wouldn't mind if PD would simply put on a front air splitter and perhaps some canards. I'm not worried..
Plus many cars will be from tuning shops which already have aerodynamics.
 
Let's not forget that GT:HD had only one track and a handful of cars.

I don't think it had anything to do with the amount of content: GT5P still keeps the same quality with 16 cars racing at the same time. More like they wanted to throw something out there for us to chew on, and that's how it ended up with 1 track for time trials.
 
Body mod would be a feature for teenagers at GT5, and fortunately they not going to do it. That's not the game spirit.
 
Have you played GT5:P, have you read any of the interviews with KY. He's interested in body mods and has moddeled the cars in a way that makes it easy to implement them.

And what makes body mods a feature for teenagers. Narrow minded or what.
 
When I say body mod I mean ridiculous NFS tuning style... Candy paint, decals, weird alloy wheels and neon. I would bet anything that GT5 is not going to have it and if it does that will be the last version of the game.

Again... GT series were created to simulate a racing driver experience, I'm sure Poliphony Digital will leave this TEENAGER flash dream for NFS and other racing games.
 
I agree it won't have the ridiculous, but a body mod is a body mod, an aftermarket bumper is an aftermarket bumper whether it imporves performance or not. To state that Body mods would be a feature for teenagers is grouping the good in with the bad and as a result, false. Kaz has stated that he would like to include aftermarket bumpers and body parts, and the Concept by GT cars in GT5:P I beleive are there to give some idea of the types of mods he is reffering to.
 
To be very honest... I don't think they will do it for performance points as it goes to a level of physics that the game is far to reach. And I keep saying that would be a feature for teenagers but not for people looking for a racing simulator. There is nothing wrong being a teenager and liking tuned cars, even if you are 40.
 
How will it go to a level of physics that are beyond what they can reach? They've been doing it since GT1. The main aspects are simply a case of adjusting the cars weight and distribution, downforce and drag. And once again, body mods arn't all a teenage thing, there's plenty of reacing cars that use body mods and why, because they make the car go faster round the track. Tuning your car to go faster round a track just so happens to be a pretty large part of GT. I would love to know what your views are based on and where they come from.
 
How will it go to a level of physics that are beyond what they can reach? They've been doing it since GT1. The main aspects are simply a case of adjusting the cars weight and distribution, downforce and drag. And once again, body mods arn't all a teenage thing, there's plenty of racing cars that use body mods and why, because they make the car go faster round the track. Tuning your car to go faster round a track just so happens to be a pretty large part of GT. I would love to know what your views are based on and where they come from.

I will be try to be less idiot....
There are two ways to make this:

1-) You buy aftermarket body for your car and cannot customize it.
Issue: everyone is going to have the same **** which means no racing driving improvement at all.

2-) You buy the aftermarket body and customize it to make your car slower or faster.
Issue: 99.9% of the user will try to guess the mods to improve the car which doesn't mean any improvement at all in the driving simulator either.

To finish my point, I cannot understand why the hell Pininfarina doesn't sell aftermarket body to improve Ferrari or any other manufacture performance.

Is it because they DESIGN a car before sell it?

I guess the GT spirit is to drive a real car in a race track pushing it's limits.

I look forward to see a aftermarket body kit for the F1 car... Well you still can do it with a Citroen Saxo :D

But that is just my point of view ;)
 
I will be try to be less idiot....
There are two ways to make this:

1-) You buy aftermarket body for your car and cannot customize it.
Issue: everyone is going to have the same **** which means no racing driving improvement at all.
I'm not sure what you mean here.

2-) You buy the aftermarket body and customize it to make your car slower or faster.
Issue: 99.9% of the user will try to guess the mods to improve the car which doesn't mean any improvement at all in the driving simulator either.
Not really, what most people on here are saying is simply that the body mods included should all be effective aero mods, like what people put on race cars as opposed to the £299 plastic looks like the mold melted stuff that is made purely to alter the way the car looks and offers no improvment performance wise in any situation. Infact they often hinder performance. If PD only include effective mods then you won't have this problem.

To finish my point, I cannot understand why the hell Pininfarina doesn't sell aftermarket body to improve Ferrari or any other manufacture performance.
Pininfarina are a custom coach builder,what they build isn't always designed to offer the best performance. Sure good aerodynamics is a big element in design but they cross that with style.

Is it because they DESIGN a car before sell it?
Again, car manufacturers have to appeal to wide audiences, they do not focus on making cars that to 90%+ of thier intended market are percieved as hideous and/or too uncompromised to drive. PErformance is only one of many aspects of production car design. Too much and you lose market share, too little and you lose market share. If the Ferrari F430 was designed to be as good as it could be aerodynamically in stock trim then why does Ferrari add a big rear wing, front splitter, cannards and a diffuser etc onto the GT racing ones. If the road one was so good aerodynamically then surely the racing one would look the same.

I guess the GT spirit is to drive a real car in a race track pushing it's limits.
And to tune it to go faster, adding a decent body kit will only improve this aspect. GT has always (barring GT3) included body mods of some sort. GT1 and 2 feature full body kits you could add to the cars along with a new racing type paint scheme with sponsors and the like. GT3 lost that, GT4 replaced it with rear wings and front splitters (though you couldn't see the splitter). Simply giving people the option to combine front bumper a with bonnet b and rear wing c is simply an extension to the racing mod we had in GT1 and 2.

I look forward to see a aftermarket body kit for the F1 car... Well you still can do it with a Citroen Saxo :D
You can thoeretically put an aftermarket kit on an F1 car and improve it's performance. The cars are limited by the rules and regulations of the FIA, if you take one outside of thoes rules you could make an F1 car faster than it is. But regardless, I'm not suggesting we go to the lenths of changing the bodywork on racing cars especially not purpose built ground up machines like LMP, Group C and F1 cars. This could have serious implications with the teams you've licensed racing cars cars from and also there's the fact many race cars are already modded with non-production bodywork.

what people (including me, are talking about is turning your standard humdrum car like this...
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into a car like this...
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or this...
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I am not talking about turning it into something like this...
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Well said Dave 👍

Personally, I wouldn't even mind a bit of "styling" biased aero stuff anyway, and different colours. Although I wouldn't necessarily use them myself, as I've highlighted many times it'd be a good early warning way of spotting the people who are likely to be less than proficient at racing. Spot the one car that looks like a Fast and Furious reject and you know to keep away from it in the race...
 
I wouldn't mind functional aero parts but my concern is the disadvantages that one will have if the driver chooses not to alter the exterior body regions of his/her vehicle. In the Forza series, the body parts can alter your cars class and you can actually tell the difference in drivability no-doubt. But at times I felt forced to add aerodynamics to keep the the car at the pinnacle of competitiveness in its class. For example, I'm a NSX enthusiast, NA1 as well as the NA2. I would be hesitative to alter the exterior of either of the vehicles, primarily because I'm 100% satisfied with the body and its factory aerodynamic capabilities. If I just choose to run with the necessary powertrain, drivetrain, chassis modifications, aswell as wider wheels with a lower profile, and make sure that all of these upgrades do not surpass the boundaries of the class, will I still be competitive against another car of the same make/model but with extensive aerodynamic work?

In the Forza series they attempted to balance this dillema out.
Adding aero parts meant adding weight, but 2-10lbs. didn't make a difference.
Hopefully this will all be thought out by PD. I believe that if one chooses not to
add aero parts/bodykits to his vehicle they should freely be able to choose not to do so, but still remain competitive against cars that are equipped with aero enhancements.
 
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I dissagree, I think aero parts should have the same effect they would have irl, whats the point in having them if they don't make the car corner better at x speed then the same car without. None. If keeping a car standard body wise is something enough people want to do then there would be no reason for PD not to put a standard bodywork filter into some of the race rules option maybe have some single player races with it and give people the choice when it comes to creating an online race.
 
if they would have functional aero kits, they should indeed improve performance.. and if they will have parts that just make your car LOOK LIKE it's fast, it should have opposite effect.. :mischievous:
 
any wide bodykits and race car bodykits wouldn´t be wrong. i think you must have an option to make your car to an race car!!! or to an tunercar
 
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