Body modding, custom tuning and GT5...

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I'm not sure that engine swaps would unbalance Gran Turismo. Then again, I'm not sure why people feel the need to bring up neons and chrome rims in a discussion about performance mods. :sly:

There are two things which could be issues curtailing cross-manufacturer engine swaps:
  • Manufacturer's objections (which definitely would)
  • It could render certain cars as undesirable "wallflowers" which people ignore in favor of traditional tuners
Suppose many of us glom onto certain cliche tuner cars such as the Toyota Trueno, RX-7, S2000, BMWs, Skylines and others. When the point of Gran Turismo is to explore the world of cars, would engine swaps encourage less exploration of the lots? I don't know, maybe. I think drivetrain swaps would be much worse. GT5 should do a better job than Forza, where you can swap almost any drivetrain with a 4WD one with little or no penalty, and not much cost, and where 4WD cars have an unfair advantage.

Maybe just engine performance enhancements is the way to go, but we'll see in a few weeks. I for one am going to explore everything the game has to offer.
 
Same manufacturer engine swaps should be included, hopefully in GT6 but it doesn't sound like Kaz thinks it's a good idea.

The argument that they can't realistically test it is stupid. What about all the cars you can put turbos on? I'm sure no one in real life has put turbos on a McLaren F1, yet in GT4 they were happy to take an educated guess as to how this would effect the car.

Surely with an engine swap you need to know a few simple things; the dimensions of the engine, the weight of the engine, the centre of gravity of the engine, the position the engine will sit in the engine bay and the power and torque differences. Sure, that's a lot to calculate for so many cars, so limit it to same manufacturer.

When choosing an engine you get a graphic of your cars silhouette with where the engine will sit in a different colour. Above that you have the old weight and new weight, old power new power, old torque new torque. On top of this you need to show the old a new weight distribution in percentage front and back. Also, where the engine sits in relation to the front wheels will effect handling, I guess this is the tricky part that gives some merit to them saying it's not easy to calculate accurately.

However, I think restricting it to same manufacturer will make it very much doable as well as avoiding possibly upsetting manufacturers.
 
I am talking about tuning body-kits. If you see a racing Nissan GT-R, it has body kits, but racing ones... Better at aerodynamics. A tuning one is just a piece of plastic... :grumpy: What i was saying was tune cars NFS style, put pieces around the car that don't do anything but weight. People are trying to transform the ultimate racing simulator in to the ultimate ride pimping simulator.:crazy: Keep the game real, just some spoilers, for better aerodynamics, some performance parts and some simple wheels if you want to put car lighter, or add a personal touch...
 
Like I said before once I get confirmation photo of a Body Kit available in Gran Turismo 5 I show you the photo. Thanks to two of our own members Raagenterg and JDMKING13 for catching a great still of RE Amemiya D-1 RX-7FD Drift car. Raagenterg found video of the RX-7 and the yellow Speed Six on the month Qore Edition. As well the S-15 though I think King wanted us to see the S-15 since he loves JDM. Like wise my friend. Since I’m in a good mood I’ll let you look at some photo’s of Body Kits that we’ll be able to obtain.

Raagenterg ‘s find
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RE Amemiya D-1 RX-7 FD Drift Car

JDMKINGS13’s Find
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Nissan Silvia S-15 with a Top Secret Body Kit

Race Prepping your car for Competition.

Look at this Race Prepped TVR Tuscan Speed Six. Take a look at the front, rear and side of the Tuscan; on the front lower nose of the car you’ll see the Front Spoiler at the rear a diffuser and body spoiler on the side body which is black. Now you can only do this in what I know call the Competition Icon which h is the black car.

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the proper physics of an engine swap would be be to difficult to program, imagine having to program all the possible combinations, they'd have to obtain a copy of the car and test it like every other car. Maybe for Gran Turismo 8.
 
miguelmurjal
I am talking about tuning body-kits. If you see a racing Nissan GT-R, it has body kits, but racing ones... Better at aerodynamics. A tuning one is just a piece of plastic... :grumpy: What i was saying was tune cars NFS style, put pieces around the car that don't do anything but weight. People are trying to transform the ultimate racing simulator in to the ultimate ride pimping simulator.:crazy: Keep the game real, just some spoilers, for better aerodynamics, some performance parts and some simple wheels if you want to put car lighter, or add a personal touch...
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Your post doesn't make sense, really. A body kit is a body kit and that's it. It may be a performance oriented one or it may not. However, there are a lot of body kits offered by tuning companies that are as performance oriented as can be.

Feel free to take a look at the cars created by Mine's, Amuse, RE Amemiya or any other major tuning company forr proof.

As far as I know, nobody asked for the Wal Mart kind of stuff, like fake hood scoops and the like...
 
Amuse Fairlady Z is one of the most sexy Japanese Tuned Cars. And so is the new 380RS Superleggra Z.
 
Hopefully they used the original Racing Modification theme music. The good old days HAHAH.
 
Due to the recent developments on GT Planet I have removed all photos and post concerning Body Molding and the Manufactures. I won’t leave you out though, at the last release of Gran Turismo 5 at 5:00 pm est I will give you a complete list of all the Body Molding Manufactures, Performance Manufactures that will be coming via down load in the first year of Gran Turismo 5.

 
Zuel
Due to the recent developments on GT Planet I have removed all photos and post concerning Body Molding and the Manufactures. I won’t leave you out though, at the last release of Gran Turismo 5 at 5:00 pm est I will give you a complete list of all the Body Molding Manufactures, Performance Manufactures that will be coming via down load in the first year of Gran Turismo 5.
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Sorry I had too; I don’t want to give Jordan any more heat than he already has. If you of you got a chance to see the video’s and noticed some cars drifting then you got a glimpse at two of the body Kits. I will not be given the cars or the kits sorry. Though as I said before at 5:00 pm EST. of the last release date I will share the complete list of what’s to come.
 
If that's the case, I'm staying away from this thread. I don't want to find out what kits there are until I play for myself.. rather not be dissapointed at this moment.
 
Zuel
Sorry I had too; I don’t want to give Jordan any more heat than he already has. If you of you got a chance to see the video’s and noticed some cars drifting then you got a glimpse at two of the body Kits. I will not be given the cars or the kits sorry. Though as I said before at 5:00 pm EST. of the last release date I will share the complete list of what’s to come.
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i saw the video of one on the s15 ....it looked sweeeeeet !!!
 
At least we have final confirmation that it's gonna be in the game. I can rest easy until the end of November.
 
How do we know these aren't just another variation of the cars, like the wide body Amuse GT1 s2000 in addition to the regular s2000s?
 
drdonutman
the proper physics of an engine swap would be be to difficult to program, imagine having to program all the possible combinations, they'd have to obtain a copy of the car and test it like every other car...
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I know I'm late to the party, but I have to disagree with this.

If weight distribution is calculated for every car model (Which I'd imagine it would have to be in order to properly recreate a vehicle's behavior), than allotting for engine swaps should not be a difficult proposition.

Engine dimensions (To determine fitment) as well as engine weights can probably be ascertained pretty easily by the folks at PD. Simply adjust the weight distribution depending on the difference between engines, and impart the new engine's performance characteristics and parts library on the car.

Of course I could be dead wrong and it could just sound easy in theory. However, if Tokyo Xtreme Racer 3 and Forza have engine swaps, there really is no reason that GT5 shouldn't.
 
Zuel
Sorry I had too; I don’t want to give Jordan any more heat than he already has. If you of you got a chance to see the video’s and noticed some cars drifting then you got a glimpse at two of the body Kits. I will not be given the cars or the kits sorry. Though as I said before at 5:00 pm EST. of the last release date I will share the complete list of what’s to come.
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You do realize that nearly confirms certain aspects of the Rm function, like multiple body kits for available cars and the strong possibility (based on your wording) that some body kit parts are licensed from manufacturers.
 
I always thought GT should put everything in the game too, Aero parts, nitrous, custom paint, wheel sizes, tire sizes different exhaust set-ups everything to actually say this car is yours the only one designed like that. But it would be amazing if you could tune your car on say like a mustang dyno to tweak all the power from your stage 4 turbo(stage 4 meaning????) Everything should be adjustable..maybe thats asking too much
 
SigmaViper11
You do realize that nearly confirms certain aspects of the Rm function, like multiple body kits for available cars and the strong possibility (based on your wording) that some body kit parts are licensed from manufacturers.
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Yes I know as a number of things we all will see.
 
You can see old muscle cars with bodykits or racemods in this video :

Jump to 4:55 and you can see a chrome bumper corvette (`69 vert?) and a car behind it (`70 challenger?) with some kind of modifications.

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I`m sure that is a chrome bumper corvette.

EDIT: Maybe that`s the front downforce upgrade? In GT4 you couldn`t install front wings (correct name: splitter?) but you could adjust the downforce on the front end with only a normal wing. The Challenger looks like it has the same wing, Could it be that they are the same for all cars?

That new Camaro and the Corvette in the intro at 4:53 might have race modifications.
 
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Zuel
Due to the recent developments on GT Planet I have removed all photos and post concerning Body Molding and the Manufactures. I won’t leave you out though, at the last release of Gran Turismo 5 at 5:00 pm est I will give you a complete list of all the Body Molding Manufactures, Performance Manufactures that will be coming via down load in the first year of Gran Turismo 5.
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awww COME ON!

if people want to spoil the game for themselves (me), they should be able to. Don't dangle a carrot in front of us only to yank it away.
 
Zuel
at the last release of Gran Turismo 5 at 5:00 pm est I will give you a complete list of all the Body Molding Manufactures, Performance Manufactures that will be coming via down load in the first year of Gran Turismo 5.
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I'm not sure I understood your statement. 5pm EST today will be the last release of information? Or did you mean latest?

And lastly, how do we find out when new information is scheduled to be released? Thank you.
 
Aarron_M
I'm not sure I understood your statement. 5pm EST today will be the last release of information? Or did you mean latest?

And lastly, how do we find out when new information is scheduled to be released? Thank you.
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X2 , I'm looking for it tonight ! hope it will be more info !

dont be afraid to spoiled something.. !!:sly:
 
Aarron_M
I'm not sure I understood your statement. 5pm EST today will be the last release of information? Or did you mean latest?
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He meant that, on the day of GT5's release, at 5pm, he'll put a list of all the possible modifications up.

If I understood him right, that is.
 

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