Body modding, custom tuning and GT5...

What I'm trying to say is that over-sized wings, spinners, and the like detract from the car visually and performance-wise. Functional wings are fine, but weird looking ones that are just for show look incredibly stupid. The same goes for scoops all over the car. Chrome rims are alright, but spinners are past their prime, on top of that they're too outlandish for race cars. And as far as sticking brand names all over your car, leave it to full-blown race machines, the paint jobs at least coincide with the crap your car says.

I acctually like crazy paintjobs; they add character while neon lights, if done properly, compliment them.
 
Oversized wings don't equate to non-functional, it depends on the purpose, GT race cars (older GT1's in particular) had massive wings, but even they arn't as big as some unlimited class rally cars like the Cultus, Aerio, Escudo, RS200 EVO ect. Same can go for air intakes and outtakes, having a lot doesn't equal overdone, it can do but having a lot on their own doesn't equal that. Again it depends on the cars purpose and also the race regulations (this applies to ll aerodynamics), if the race regulations say your car can only produce this much downforce, any wings that can produce more arn't allowed. If GTS racers weer allowed any wing, they'd probably have wings like F1 cars do coming out of the back, only bigger. Neon's, I wouldn't like to se them in races, photomode I can see a purpose for them, but in races no. Spinners, again in photomode, for people who are into that thing, they can use them, but not in races. Crazy paintjobs, we can see crazy paintjobs in motorsport all round the world, it's been happening for years, I think we should be able to paint the cars how we want. The idea of GT for me, or at least one focus of GT for me is turning your road car into a race car, race cars get sponsored, I think you should have to choice to put sponsors on your car or not. If I had my way, the modding in GT would be very open, I'd have different shops offering a different range of turbo's, manifolds and suspension kits that have different pro's and con's, and I'd have a huge are for modifying your cars aerodynamics, the potential there is HUGE.
 
Let's roll with Private Poop for a moment. Would you prefer to have seperate shops that specialize in certain tuning elements, or are you okay with an all-in-one tune shop? If you answered "seperate shops," then how many different shops would you like to see? Should some shops specialize in multiple elements (for example: Shop A specializes in turbos, but Shop B specializes in turbos and exhaust, Shop C specializes in graphics, power addons, body kits, etc.)? What do you think?
 
I'd like to see full scale detailed modelling of every upgrade and modification, licensed from the companies. PD/Sony managed to get HKS, TOMS, NISMO etc in the previous GTs, so put in a bunch of the actual gear they make so we can buy it.

I'd like to see Brembo brake kits, Borla exhaust units, Dunlop Pirelli and Kuhmo tires, K&N intakes. Anything and everything you can do with a car by name brand.
 
JohnBM01
Let's roll with Private Poop for a moment. Would you prefer to have seperate shops that specialize in certain tuning elements, or are you okay with an all-in-one tune shop? If you answered "seperate shops," then how many different shops would you like to see? Should some shops specialize in multiple elements (for example: Shop A specializes in turbos, but Shop B specializes in turbos and exhaust, Shop C specializes in graphics, power addons, body kits, etc.)? What do you think?
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Thats a very arrogant post there m8, he just made an input, and you might not get his comment very well but dont go pressure him like this.

And pleeaasee dont say you didn't intend to do that:ouch:
 
I actually read that as being a geniune question to further an idea on the way the tune shops work. Not single part of that post say's to me John is being arrogant or trying to pressurise PP, he's just looking to go more deeply into the idea, be it with PP or with anyone else who responds but his post wasn't rude in any way, he was just asking a question. And on that subject I'd say I'd leave the manufacturers tune shops as they are, jack of all trade stores if you like with a bit of everything, but what I would do is expand heavilly on the tuner village, have a shop that specialises in turbo's a shop that specialises in aerodynamics, a shop that does parts for the engines ect. But have all the parts in the tuner village shops different to the parts in the manufacturers own store.
 
live4speed
But have all the parts in the tuner village shops different to the parts in the manufacturers own store.
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Exactly. It would be nice to have more reasons to go to the Tuner Village. More 'Original' parts would be cool. What about an 'Original Transmission,' a cheaper full-customize tranny with five(or the stock amount, depending on the car) ratios? Or how about an 'Original Exhaust,' a street exhaust with a cutout that activates at a certain rpm level?

In addition, being able to have all options available for every car would be nice too. Only a relative few cars in GT4 can use NA tuning, a turbo, and a supercharger. Why not make them available for every car? Players can experiment with the different types of powerbands that these tuning options have, and be able to see what works best for them.
 
theres some things taht I would like:
1.) some nice wheels...
2.) body mods(no ricers though)
3.)they should have more drag tracks, and some drag tournaments(my supra will pawn everything)
4.)i would like some real tuning!! not like NFS or anything, were you can hexx your profile on the comp and make it like 1500hp lol
5.) more cars!!!700+ is not enough for me!! I want like every model supras, RX's, etc, they only have 97 supras MKIV's in GT4, they should have 1993-1998(quicksilver for me lol)
6.) some actual parts for example.. when you go to the HKS shop, they shoudl have like HKS 272cams, 280 cams, etc. then when you go to turbo's they should have t04Z turbos, etc.
7.) more tuning shops-nismo,toms, hks,Blitz is kool, but they should include Signal Auto?Team ORange??etc..
8.)have drift tournaments, like the D1GP, it should be open to all cars and such...
9.) you should be able to paint your car, like if i find a nice car i want at a cheap a price, but the paint is fookin ugly!! you should be able to change it!!

and i've noticed, they dont necessarily have real capibilities.... liek for example-in GT4, you cant turbocharge n/a supras(SZ-R's) as in real life, you can do anything go na-t, do a full engine swap to a 2JZgte, etc... they should include engine swaps also...
 
Yeah. I was not being arrogant in extending "Private Poop's" comments. I simply wanted to extend a good conversation. So, feel free to comment.
 
+1 to the above posts.

Car work should be included, and at a realistic cost. You can put a turbo on a Honda engine or a Nissan with a custom job, so why not in Gran Turismo? I'm not real big on the need for that, as it keeps the NA Hondas in the traditional livery and all, but I'm all for that "no limits" thing.

Make Grand Turismo 5 as comprehensive as you can, PD.
 
This thread hasn't been contributed to for ages...

Screw licensing for once...Veilside will turn Gran Turismo's world upside down...hmmm...

 
I dont think GT5 should be street racing oriented. Actually its great as is. But I'll agree with those that say the cars should be more customizable.

PREFERED BODY MODS:
Front bumpers
Rear bumpers
Side skirts
Hoods
Headlights
Grills
Fender flares (Bolt on, molded, widebody, etc)

PREFERED WHEEL MODS:
Oversized wheels (14-20")
Wheel width

OTHER:
Upgraded visuals when you upgrade parts. Intercoolers should fill that front end, brake rotors should fill out the wheel wells, your muffler should change when you bolt on a 5" exhaust on a Supra, etc.

Some people are going to make ugly cars when given the option to customize. Oh well. Only YOU can stop rice!
 
I wouldn't want a GT game to be cross of thoes things, I wouldn't mind a NFSgame being crossed with GT though, if that makes sense. NFS:U is the wrong type of bodykit I would liek to see in GT5, also Burnouts crashes are not in any way realistic, so again I wouldn' like them in a GT game either. Now a game that combines all of that might be a great fun game, but it won't be a great Gran Turismo.
 
live4speed
I wouldn't want a GT game to be cross of thoes things, I wouldn't mind a NFSgame being crossed with GT though, if that makes sense. NFS:U is the wrong type of bodykit I would liek to see in GT5, also Burnouts crashes are not in any way realistic, so again I wouldn' like them in a GT game either. Now a game that combines all of that might be a great fun game, but it won't be a great Gran Turismo.
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Yea that's what I was aiming at. There is no way GT, NfS, and Burnout could exist in one game and be titled "Gran Turismo". "Need for Burnouts", however, might work. :lol:
 
angelboy52
Yea that's what I was aiming at. There is no way GT, NfS, and Burnout could exist in one game and be titled "Gran Turismo". "Need for Burnouts", however, might work. :lol:
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''Rice meets arcade''.

:dunce:
 
body modifications would be nice and so would visual changes to a car when new parts are added needs to be their. custimizable poaint jobs are a must.
 
live4speed
I wouldn't want a GT game to be cross of thoes things, I wouldn't mind a NFSgame being crossed with GT though, if that makes sense. NFS:U is the wrong type of bodykit I would liek to see in GT5, also Burnouts crashes are not in any way realistic, so again I wouldn' like them in a GT game either. Now a game that combines all of that might be a great fun game, but it won't be a great Gran Turismo.
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If they were to cross GT with a NFS game's feature, it should be the Most Wanted customization. Its customization is optional, simplified to the major categories (bodykit, wheels, spoilers) and none of it is as over the top as underground (neons and sound systems aren't needed), as many of those body kits could be quite funtional if game designers added them into a simulation game.
 
Here is what I think should be in the game.....

1. Option to choose wheel sizes (within the range of the car)
2. Aerodynamic kits (Such as Vertex, J-Blood, Chargespeed, M Sports, etc. And they actually have to help in aerodynamics, not just look pretty)
3. Wheel offset or spacing (The ability to bring the wheels out closer, flush, and even a little past the wheel opening. You are making the car's track wider, thus making it handle better. Also looks great)
4. Mufflers (This is a big issue for me. I mean, if we do have body kits and all that crap, I don't want a stock muffler behind my rear bumper. Have many different styles like Apex'i N1 muffler, sports style mufflers, dual mufflers [on the same side, not that one on each side crap unless the car comes stock with it] the straight pipe look, and have the option of angling the exhaust for that drifter look. Shut up, you know it looks good)
4. Paint (Ok. Can't go to crazy on this one, but custom colors always kick major ass. Some small decals never hurt either.)

While many things I have mentioned have been discussed, I only posted this to clarify what I believe would be nice additions to the game. The cars in the pictures are just emaples of what some cars should look like in GT. Enjoy.
 

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if gt5 will get sponsors then i would like to see some sponsors on all of your cars(of course you can switch them on or off).and if you would get some bbs rims then the sponsor sticker should be on.when you go tune your car somewhere then the sticker should be on too(like HKS, Blitz etc)
 
It would definately be nice to have some of tuner car accesories. HOWEVER, as many have said, i dont want this to be NFS. I dont want company stickers on my car that look tacky, the less logos the better. I dont want outlandish body kits, but sideskirts and subtle bumpers and hoods are nice.

The biggest thing i wanna see is more wheel variety. I mean common there arent that many wheels in the game that are really attractive. I like most of the BBS but other than that and maybe Speedline, the wheels are lame. I would love to see a BBS style black rim with polished lip. And a choice of wheel sizes is a definate must, because 14 inch wheels on a sporty car is retarded.

Custom paint, to an extent again, would be nice also. The best examples i can think of are the Pagani Zonda and Plymouth Superbird. The Zonda only comes in silver (except the LM) which kinda sucks especially because they have multiple colors in real life. The Superbird you have to win, and it can come in some awful colors (puke green anyone?) I really wish i could paint these cars a reasonable color like black or red or blue. I like metallic paints and they look really cool, but i dunno it GT5 is the place for them, except as stock colors (like the Amuse S2000).

Also i wish there was a more reasonable looking spolier choice, because all of the wings are pretty high, and look stupid on certain cars.

I wish they would take nitrous out because i think its lame, its just saying your too lazy to put work into your car and its way too Fast and Furious-ish IMO to be in a sim racing game
 
They don't need to take nitrous out, don't like it, don't use it. I personally think there should be far more nitrous options, like setups similar to thoes seen on some rally cars and 3 shot setups like the Jaguar Palmer race cars etc. But i do think some races should allow nitrous and other races should, I'd like different events to have a more diverse set of rules for entry.
 
I find nitrous to be annoying, but it is one of those things no one is twisting your arm to use, and online race rules set up will surely enable us to specify things like disallowing nitrous.

As for the car liveries, I want a full feature set of things I can do to my car. Creating race cars means things like body kits, different wheel and tire sizes, custom paint jobs with any graphics imaginable, and decals including major sponsors, as few or many as I want. Even if they don't offer a true Career Mode in GT5, I do hope they will implement racing conversion like this.
 
NONONO I strongly disagree with ricer body kits and such accessories like stickers and all that crap.

I love GT for it's realism now they can do better and will do better to pertain to the realism. That's what GT is all about.

Now what I would like to see is more car specifics for example if a car comes with lsd stock or sports exhaust stock. Please don't let me see that in the Tune Shop that I can buy another LSD or another sports exhaust.
Some of the cars did rule out some things you can upgrade because it already has it but not all of them do. So now your guessing if they implemented this or not.Which sucks IMO.

Another thing of course I believe others mentioned was NA tuning vs FI tuning. In Gt4 you could buy a stock GTR for example or any FI car and it won't allow you to go NA. That really sucks that just because a car comes FI stock doesn't mean you can't add cams, rods, or pistons.

It would be real cool if they can allow you to change engine internals specific to the car manufacturer and it's aftermarket support similar to NFS but more specific. Rods, Pistons, Crank, different intake manifolds, Change compresion ratio's etc..

OH and a more specific Dyno graph with X/Y parameters in close up, Engine Dynoing. While upgrading different variation in engine mods you can pick the right setup and dyno tune it according to the track your going to race.
Forza had a good example of it but was really vague but very cool idea.

Forza also had another good idea with REAL TIME Tire pressures, Tire Temps, Shock rebounds, Spring Rate, Hp and Tq . GT better have this in replay mode or something. This to me is the ultimate in car tuning dialing it in just right for the track. It makes a huge difference in Forza if your tire temp isn't up you will notice more wheel spin. If you give the tire's too much PSI you will also notice how it affects the handling. Then watch it in real time and make the proper needed changes for maximum grip.



Instead of body kits as mentioned if you buy a racing exhaust make it look like a racing exhaust same with Inter coolers make us see it change. Wings need to be more specific with the manufacturing support for that car.
If it doesn't have that support don't allow us to put a wing on it. I mean has anyone ever put a Wing on a AMG Benz um NOOOO. So that has to go.


Of course SOUND needs to be better and please keep the flames exiting the exhaust very realistic. 👍

I hope PD looks into this allot more than "OH what body kit is out for the Accord DUH DUH DUH":ouch: :yuck: Whack..


Many more specifics but I will be just happy with the above. Beggars can't be choosers. I will pray...
 
Sonzilla
NONONO I strongly disagree with ricer body kits and such accessories like stickers and all that crap.

I love GT for it's realism now they can do better and will do better to pertain to the realism. That's what GT is all about.
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You don't agree with anything like this being in GT5 then.
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Or this.
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I agree with the rest of your post that it'd be nice to turbo or NA tune any car, and cars with LSD stock should show as already owning an LSD that shouldn't make you not able to buy a better differential for the car though. I've already discussed variety in mods in other threads and it get's quite deep but it's something I'd like to see. Back onto bodykits though, what you need to do is seperate functional from the non-functional, funtional kit's are out there and are used in a lot of motorsport frmo sportscars to touring cars to VW Beetle races and many more, not all race cars are sillhouettes, in fact most arn't. Same goes for decals, not many race cars don't have them, so what if I want my road car turned race car in GT5 to look like a proper team race car and put a set of decals and designs on it to personalise it's looks some more, that's a big, big plus for most people, it's not ricey, it's not arcadey it's adding a creative dimension to the game.
 
Oh no sorry I wasn't specific. What I don't like is the NFS crazy ricer body kits and foolish decals.

What you pointed out is exactly what I like and want added. I deff agree with that.
It must pertain to the realism with real world racing body kits and decals. Exactly what you said lol

Like in GT2 you could buy a touring body kit for some vehicles.
It should maintain realistic scenarios and not allowing you to do this too any car. Common sense is were I'm getting at.


Another thing mentioned by another member about already having a part and upgrading to the same part it already has. All they need to do is describe the part for example: if the car comes with LSD then in the Tune Shop the LSD option should be more detailed on how it's better than stock LSD. This would apply for all upgrades made such as a better brand exhaust etc. or various aftermarket companies with different reviews on that specific upgrade.
That way your not guessing if it was implemented by PD to already having LSD or such part or not having.

Very cool idea IMO 👍
 
Fair enough, it's just that theres a lot of people who just dissmiss bodykits altogether because they appeard in NFS and stupid stuff like that, glad your ot one of them 👍.
 

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