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Oh, I wish drifting had remained unheard of and "untampered" with. It's a shame what has become of the sport. It's like what happened to Professional Wrestling. A damn shame.

Let it be known that I don't hate drifting in organized events, but the drifting attitude really irks me.
 
Originally posted by Famine
Anybody that tried to drift a corner after seeing 2F2F and wiped out themselves/someone else - was it the film's fault, or their fault for being incapable of distinguishing fantasy from reality?

It's the America System's fault. They overcommercialized driving.

Japan would not have done this, because Japan is not America.
 
Originally posted by Famine
Now that is something we can all agree on.

However, it's not necessarily the ad's fault. It's like violent computer games, or films. Does the violence within a media form create violence within people? Or does it cause more violence in violent people?

Anybody that tried to drift a corner after seeing 2F2F and wiped out themselves/someone else - was it the film's fault, or their fault for being incapable of distinguishing fantasy from reality?

its both, there will always be people who think they know stuff, then they will apply this "knowledge" to real life, yet they know nothing....
and here in B.C. it has affected driving laws, licensing laws, and has created extreme prejudice against us with the modified cars....

they see the movie, they see the events, the see the trend, then they want to be part of it....and in this case, people get hurt.
 
Originally posted by Famine
However, it's not necessarily the ad's fault. It's like violent computer games, or films. Does the violence within a media form create violence within people? Or does it cause more violence in violent people?


My father and I usually get into debating something like that. He's a Judge so I don't think I'll ever win against him. :D Anyways, he'd always bug me about the music I listen to saying how it promotes violence and all that. Same with violent movies and games. I mean, people aren't dumb enough to watch a violent movie and then go out and buy a shotgun and rip every other person's face off. Or listen to someone sing "Kill!" and actually go outside and tear someone's arm off. I just think we're better than that.

In this ad's case, I'd say it has a part in somehow misinforming the people. Making them think racing (drag, circuit, grip, drift) is easy. Like somehow eating a soggy piece of **** is going to magically make 'em drive like a pro or something.

Of course, I still think it's up to us. They can't dictate anything. They can suggest, to some extent, but never force us.

:cheers:
 
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LET UR VOICE BE HEARD!!!!
goddamn i wish ppl realised that the U.S should have NOTHING to do with drifting and it should remain underground as much as possible........cuz guaranteed they will **** around with it, then itll go away...........we just gotta wait till its all over and hope it dosent influence any changes in law and or car modifications......FUC*IN AMERICANS
.........sorry..............previously posted in page 2 by F.Zamataki, Notice how he states the U.S. should have nothing to do with drifting as if Drifting is to good for the Americans. Which basically means he doesnt think his own s#*@ stinks and is way to good for us pathetic americans that ruin everything because we tend to stride to improve it. And we all know that the Americans are the ones the influence law and car modification changes in Canada because Americans want to make an attempt at drifting. Swearing at the U.S. and then saying FUC*IN AMERICANS I mean dang thats a couple of mean things to say towards the Americans maybe not exactly racist as i stated earlier but you obviously show signs of hatred towards them and for some odd reason have something against them because they would like to enjoy something new to them also.
 
Black people can't drift. And niether can Arabs. All the cars blow up.
 
Well, it's tough to eat a watermelon and smoke a blunt while drifting. I'm just trying to be fair.
 
And if they even try, they'll just **** it up for the real drifters.
 
Originally posted by LoudMusic
I think I've had fast food not more than five times in the past six or more years.

What the hell do you eat then? I couldn't live without fast food.
 
Originally posted by F.Zamataki
umm what are we canadians doing to driftng???? hmm i wonder....... lets seeeeee here......maybe NOTHING!
maybe all the drift enthusiasts i know up here have been doing there thing for the past few years, keeping it underground, and keeping it low key......and now YOU (da da da naaaa trumpets sounding flags raising ****AMERICANS****) decide you can make some money off it so lets go and develop some sort of scheme so we can have a new platform to create products for thus making more money.......like everything else you americans do this sums it up "lets expliot something thats not ours in order to benefit ourselves"
I was referring to the fact that you don't even seem to know the correct wording, spelling, or pronunciation, as so clearly and accurately pointed out by Famine. But that's OK, you're Canadian, so all is forgiven. It's only Americans who get no consideration.

So let me get this straight:

1) You somehow want drifting to have become popular enough that you and a select group of cool people got to hear about it. But now that the cool club have become True Believers, you don't want anybody else to find out about it, because then it won't be the exclusive cool club any more. Here's news: you wouldn't be in the cool club either if it had not become popular.

You're like one of those people that builds a big fancy house in a brand-new subdivision, then goes to every public meeting and screams and yells against anyone who wants to build more houses in the area.

2) Drifting, as drifters have stated many many times over, is huge in Japan. Lots of big, well-organized events, lots of professionals, lots of corporate sponsorship. Right? See that guy in your avatar wearing the racing suit? Another news bulletin: some company paid him to wear each and every patch on that suit, and put each and every sticker on his car.

But somehow, this is OK to you, because it's not America. Millions of corporate yen go into making drift popular in Japan, so popular that it spreads across the Pacific for you to learn about... but if American dollars touch it, that's poison and bound to destroy the wonderful, pure, sainted drift lifestyle.

I'd love for you to prove how drifting is owned by Japan. Give it your best shot. And if it is, you better stop doing it quick before their lawyers sue you big time.

It's OK to like what you like. That's not the issue. But the double standards around this place, particularly as they apply to America, are just unbelievable.
but i just wish someone would agree that if it wasn't for americas nack for overly
commercialising a trend or activity.. then maybe the japanese style of drifting would remain unheard of and untampered with.
What "Japanese style"? The one with well organized and sanctioned D1 competitions, major corporate sponsorship, and popular drift heroes? Sounds like, hmmm, NASCAR to me. Or F1. Or any other form of organized motorsport anywhere in the world. But of course, only Americans will ruin anything.

Or did you mean the outlaw, underground, too-cool-for-prime-time touge drifting? If that had remained "unheard of and untampered with", you sure as hell never would have heard of it in Canada!
 
I'm truly flabbergasted, I just don't know which is more absurd, how much attention such an ad has gotten? Or how much attention F.Zamataki has gotten?
Either way, drifting will remain drifting wherever it goes.
 
Well put neon duke now its time to say gg and let F.Zamataki go back to his corner :)
 
yes yes, i got carried away, i did...i meant no real offense to americans, i dont hate america.....this whole topic just got me flamed up because of McDonlads itself in the first place......i meant not to put the blame on americans...because other countires advertise too, and they also have pop culture in wich younger people follow trends....but it just ticks me off how every time something "new" comes out....anywhere in the world...therell always be someone that want's a "piece of the pie". now, mcdonalds is clearly using this new motorsport trend, combined with the sport compact car boom of the past 3-4 years, to make a cheesy extra buck.
do they really need to use something as dangerous as drag racing and drifting to get more customers? do they need to promote driving cars fast and dangerouslyy to there customers? which just so conveniently happen to be between 16-23 years old? and have just been fed the whole fast and the furious craze? the message is clear...drive your import fast and then come to mcdonalds to poison your body.
 
Originally posted by F.Zamataki

do they really need to use something as dangerous as drag racing and drifting to get more customers? do they need to promote driving cars fast and dangerouslyy to there customers? which just so conveniently happen to be between 16-23 years old? and have just been fed the whole fast and the furious craze?
yes, because it works
 
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