Brake Balance Control

[Shen Yin]

It's one of the few things to stump me about the game.

What exactly does it do and what are your suggestions for optimum performance for certain cars.

Thanx guys/gals.

 

[EpHeSuS]

Dont know much, but if you set it too high your brakes will lock up i think. Not sure

 

[Kent]

The balancer is used to change how hard your brakes bite. (so to speak)

A higher level creates more braking power, but increases the likely hood of you locking up the wheels under braking.

To elaborate a bit more...

If you balance the brakes to be more powerful in front, the car will be more stable under braking, which also means harder to turn.

If the brakes are balanced to be stronger in the rear, you will be more likely to spin out under braking.

Think of a simple bicycle.

Nail the front brakes and you can't turn very well, but the straight line braking is better...
Nail the rear brakes and you will slide out your rear end.

I usually go with an even balance unless I notice a problem, then I may adjust the balance to try and counter any problems that may exist.

Generally, my brakes are at something between 14/14 and 24/24.

24/24 can be trouble, but for me, more often than not, there are no problems with locking up.

Good luck and try doing a search using the search function... you may get a review on this subject that is deeper than what I have posted.
Although at the moment, I feel like what I have posted is all you really need.

Good luck and have fun at the gtp.

 

[speedy_2]

I always go with a setup of 20/15 usually. You'll want more in the front because, with the weight transfer of the car, the front brakes are doing about 75% of the braking. The lower setting in the rear eliminates the lock-up due to less weight back there. You should never have an equal setting for the front and rear because of the weight transfer. A lot of people do. But, if you drive better with it then go ahead. Also, if you like to drift you'd want to keep a higher setting in the back.

 

[halfracedrift]

Usually I do 14/24.. I like having my cars slide a little bit around corners..

 

[speedy_2]

Yeah, when I want to drift I usually do a setup like you have there. It's so fun to drift with the brakes like that cuz all you have to do it tap them a little and it slides so easy.

 

[Duke]

There are two camps on this issue, and I haven't done enough experimentation to know which is true:

• Some people think that the higher the numbers, the more braking force the car actually generates.
  
• Some people think that the total amount of braking force doesn't change, and that the numbers are strictly a way of carefully proportioning the amount of front and rear bias.

I really haven't had the patience to do stopping tests to see which is true.

 

[Kent]

Originally posted by speedy_2
You should never have an equal setting for the front and rear because of the weight transfer.

Actually, even settings are not as bad as you think, this is what you will learn from the mks program...

You see, you are right, you should always have something of a front ward bias of braking power. (in general and real life)

However, when the brakes are set evenly, you get this frontward bias already.



Thats right... 9/9, 14/14, 24/24

All of those combos are actually still biased towards the front... how do I know this you ask?

Mks list all the values of everything in the game. (just about)

So, if you go to change the brakes, it will list all the brakes in the game. ("normal" and "sports" ) This includes normal for every car including the hard core racers, as well as the sports brakes for every car that can buy an upgrade for the brakes.

Well on this list, the power of car's brakes is listed, and guess what?

They are all listed with front and rear power values, and on every single car, the setup is for the front brake to be more powerful.

Im gonna post a screen shot of the change parts screen from the mks program.... soo...
yeah, the brakes are already setup to have a front bias when in stock form.

Like I said earlier, if you don't notice any problems in the balance, don't adjust, leave it even. Going away from even can seriously screw with the balance of your car under braking and usually it's in such a subtle way that you don't even realize you could be getting better handling and braking.

Anyway, here's that shot, now I just hope it loads.
btw, in this screen shot, you get alot of the more powerful brakes along with the cars they are on.

 

[speedy_2]

Cool, but I'm wondering if this front bias is there to simulate bigger brakes up front. All cars usually have a bigger brake disc or drum in the front. Maybe GT3 simulates, I dunno. Good find though.

 

[Kent]

Originally posted by speedy_2
Cool, but I'm wondering if this front bias is there to simulate bigger brakes up front. All cars usually have a bigger brake disc or drum in the front. Maybe GT3 simulates, I dunno. Good find though.

That is correct.

The front brakes are valued as more powerful to represent the larger, stronger front brakes on a car.

This is real life's way and the game's way of giving every car the proper front bias needed for almost any kind of driving.

That is why I say there is already a frontward bias... hence, my suggestion to run with brakes at an even setting and then once problems are recognized, adjust accordingly.

 

[speedy_2]

Point taken. I never knew this until I looked at the MKS program. Before you actually see those numbers you would think a setting of 24/24 for example would be totaly even braking power. Thanks for the info.

 

[Kent]

No problem, glad I could help a member, none the less, a member that will take advice instead of just fighting me all day. 👍

Have fun with your new braking knowledge.
Cya.

 

[Solid Lifters]

I set the brake balance control to 21/22 on every car. But, the very small cars tend to have too much braking power for when you don't need it, so I reduce the brakes to 16/17, or even lower.

 

[Puppet Master]

hmmm Well I dont know but I always but my to 1/1....

I got Pal vers....

and it only tells me that it is the power of the ABS and not Like a real brake Balance control and I have done some racing in real life and I work for a ferrari racing team and I think that real racing is without any helps like ABS ect ect so I got mine to 1/1 and then you can lock the front tires if you brak to hard but I can be wrong