BST | V-Spec Challenge S6 | SkengD Win's Season 6! Stat's Up!!

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My view, It should be allowed if within the length of the other car, not way back unless you out brake them, but as haitch says contact is ok but should not be allowed if it causes you to have any kind of dis advantage or it gives them a better chance of passing you
 
There will always be taps. It's thumps that we want to avoid. If two cars go through a corner together, and they tap each other side-on, this isn't a problem as long as the 'tapped' isn't slowed or destabilised in any way, or nudged off the exit racing line. If I am on the inside and there is contact, generally I would not press any advantage through the following section, unless I have a clear straightline speed advantage - I would either hold position alongside, or concede place.

Last-ditch diving in the braking zone is fine by me, but the dive must be completed in a timely fashion, and the corner 'won' before the turn-in. If the inside car is fully alongside, both cars may proceed together but give each other enough room, respecting each others' positions - even through a chicane. If the diving car leaves it late and outbrakes himself slightly, so that he goes deep right at the outside car's turn-in point (thus blocking his turn-in) then this counts as careless driving (which we've all done).

Late diving is very risky in such big heavy cars, and I generally avoid this. If I want to pass someone, I'd aim to perfect the preceeding section, nail the exit of a corner, and get a better run, getting closer to the guy in front before the next corner. If there are two guys in front battling, I'd wait for them to space out a bit before attempting to pass them one by one.
 
Both drivers play a part. If someone is up your inside dont close the door. Use your brain and leave a cars width on the apex. The guy overtaking should be sure not to be out braking or losing control, they should be able to stop and get passed fairly.
 
Andy and R35 im going public here so everyone knows the score. We are 3 races in and i can honestly say 90% of the complaints are either from or about you two lads the stewards will back me on this. The simple thing for us to do would be to give the pair of you the heave ho and look forward to an easier life but nope we dont want to do that we do see some light at the end of a long tunnel regarding both of you. So heres the deal on the table:) its your choice to except it or not theres zero room for negotiation on this one im afraid. Your both on a final final warning GVS onwards if we get anymore of the crap we have had the last two weeks its firing squad time unfortunately i and the rest of those involved simply havent the energy to put up with it the row i had personally with the wife lastnight because of this kinda told me that.:scared: So please give/leave each other room lift off when you should and dont close that gap (35!!) forget that 50/50 gap which isnt really doable etc etc. You have both complained about practically the same thing about one another!!:crazy: so you both clearly realise whats not quite right. Treat one another and anyone else you get involved with for that matter with the respect due and expected and everything will run just fine. As for the penalties this week im happy to shoot with a clean slate although that has'nt been decided thats just a suggestion from the old boy.
I will point out Kingsakary Hancock and Sumo were all looking at warnings or minor penalties i say that so you guys dont think this is a vendetta it sure as hell isn't. I was also under review for an on track moment for the record. Heres hoping you fellas can take this as Stu said in the context it is ment and we can all relax a little and move on. your both decent lads ive had enough dialog with you both to understand that its probably the reason we are trying so hard to make this work but guys this really is the last chance for both of you.XX
 
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There will always be taps. It's thumps that we want to avoid. If two cars go through a corner together, and they tap each other side-on, this isn't a problem as long as the 'tapped' isn't slowed or destabilised in any way, or nudged off the exit racing line. If I am on the inside and there is contact, generally I would not press any advantage through the following section, unless I have a clear straightline speed advantage - I would either hold position alongside, or concede place.

Last-ditch diving in the braking zone is fine by me, but the dive must be completed in a timely fashion, and the corner 'won' before the turn-in. If the inside car is fully alongside, both cars may proceed together but give each other enough room, respecting each others' positions - even through a chicane. If the diving car leaves it late and outbrakes himself slightly, so that he goes deep right at the outside car's turn-in point (thus blocking his turn-in) then this counts as careless driving (which we've all done).

Late diving is very risky in such big heavy cars, and I generally avoid this. If I want to pass someone, I'd aim to perfect the preceeding section, nail the exit of a corner, and get a better run, getting closer to the guy in front before the next corner. If there are two guys in front battling, I'd wait for them to space out a bit before attempting to pass them one by one.
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I like this.👍
 
SkengD
Any times yet for gvs ?
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S5's GVS Q Times 👍

Q Times For GVS

1. R35-skylin3~~~1.51.150~~1pt~~2pts
2. Cunny17~~~1.51.455~~1pt~~1pt
3. Spurgy777~~~1.51.806~~1pt
4. Etid~~~1.52.688~~1pt
5. Paulmac2k9~~~1.52.893~~1pt
6. Neljack~~~1.52.894~~1pt​
 
Bit of a tricky one for me this is as I haven't had a bad experience in this series as yet 👍

In general racing on GT5 I don't have a problem with a bit of rubbing during passing as long as there's no detrimental effects pretty much as others have said. The only thing that does annoy me a bit is the 'trying a pass at any and every corner' that goes on in all series. In real life, at all circuits, there are places to make passes and places to not attempt them. It all boils down to race craft: setting someone up for a pass at the right opportunity v's going for it at the first corner you approach closely behind someone. It's the latter that I think causes the most incidents due to the fact that a lot of the time passing is being attempted at corners that are just difficult to make clean passes at, especially when coming from a little further back from the car ahead than is ideal. Aside from that, dicing with someone in parts of a track where passing is difficult will cost both cars so much time, even if there isn't any contact which again just comes back to race craft.

That said, there will always be incidents here and there, kind of comes with the territory of sim racing. We all make mistakes, all you can ask is that people learn a bit from them and don't get repeatedly pulled up about it 👍
 
Scanny_Flick
Bit of a tricky one for me this is as I haven't had a bad experience in this series as yet 👍

In general racing on GT5 I don't have a problem with a bit of rubbing during passing as long as there's no detrimental effects pretty much as others have said. The only thing that does annoy me a bit is the 'trying a pass at any and every corner' that goes on in all series. In real life, at all circuits, there are places to make passes and places to not attempt them. It all boils down to race craft: setting someone up for a pass at the right opportunity v's going for it at the first corner you approach closely behind someone. It's the latter that I think causes the most incidents due to the fact that a lot of the time passing is being attempted at corners that are just difficult to make clean passes at, especially when coming from a little further back from the car ahead than is ideal. Aside from that, dicing with someone in parts of a track where passing is difficult will cost both cars so much time, even if there isn't any contact which again just comes back to race craft.

That said, there will always be incidents here and there, kind of comes with the territory of sim racing. We all make mistakes, all you can ask is that people learn a bit from them and don't get repeatedly pulled up about it 👍
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Scanny_Flick
Bit of a tricky one for me this is as I haven't had a bad experience in this series as yet 👍

In general racing on GT5 I don't have a problem with a bit of rubbing during passing as long as there's no detrimental effects pretty much as others have said. The only thing that does annoy me a bit is the 'trying a pass at any and every corner' that goes on in all series. In real life, at all circuits, there are places to make passes and places to not attempt them. It all boils down to race craft: setting someone up for a pass at the right opportunity v's going for it at the first corner you approach closely behind someone. It's the latter that I think causes the most incidents due to the fact that a lot of the time passing is being attempted at corners that are just difficult to make clean passes at, especially when coming from a little further back from the car ahead than is ideal. Aside from that, dicing with someone in parts of a track where passing is difficult will cost both cars so much time, even if there isn't any contact which again just comes back to race craft.

That said, there will always be incidents here and there, kind of comes with the territory of sim racing. We all make mistakes, all you can ask is that people learn a bit from them and don't get repeatedly pulled up about it 👍
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Nothing too add.:bowdown:
 
V8-Johnboy
So what im saying is are we all prepared to except a move up the inside with minimal contact is ok??
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Yes, it should be okay I think. Some contact must be expected... Slight contact when making a pass should be fine. If someone gets pushed off, spins etc. because of the contact, then it's another matter of course. I also think Tyrell summarized things very well on the previous page.
 
There is nothing wrong with a little contact as long as this little contact doesn't cause the other driver any harm or causes them to lose position .

You cant make contact with a driver causing him to adjust steering or throttle and then still take the position .

I think thats wrong .

We all have to use our judgement and discretion when it comes to overtaking and making contact .

Both Indy races I made unintentional contact with drivers and I wasn't even trying to pass them and I waited on them and let them re pass me , kinda messed up my races but I rather that than a penalty . I think that was the fair thing to do.


Just try to leave room for other drivers when you are in close situations and remember being passed isn't the end of the race , you can get their draft and re pass them .
 
SkengD
Just try to leave room for other drivers when you are in close situations and remember being passed isn't the end of the race , you can get their draft and re pass them .
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Completely agree with this, the overtaking driver has to be responsible not to make any contact with the guy they are passing. But if the guy who's getting overtaken they can't just shut the door.

I don't like contact, but I accept little bits of rubbing as long as people are side-by-side but sometimes I feel people just think forcing their cars bumper up the inside is fine and won't 🤬 other drivers.
 
Strawman Andy
Completely agree with this, the overtaking driver has to be responsible not to make any contact with the guy they are passing. But if the guy who's getting overtaken they can't just shut the door.

I don't like contact, but I accept little bits of rubbing as long as people are side-by-side but sometimes I feel people just think forcing their cars bumper up the inside is fine and won't 🤬 other drivers.
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Ive pointed this out directly in my latest speech 35 is aware hes guilty of this and has had the decency to admit this to me via pm and to a degree on this thread he deserves some credit for that imo. And now everyone i hope is aware of what rattles peoples cages we can get on with it, the last 2 days have sucked!!:yuck:
 
People think this too much..

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V8-Johnboy
Ive pointed this out directly in my latest speech 35 is aware hes guilty of this and has had the decency to admit this to me via pm and to a degree on this thread he deserves some credit for that imo. And now everyone i hope is aware of what rattles peoples cages we can get on with it, the last 2 days have sucked!!:yuck:
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Wasn't aimed at R35 - was my general view of overtaking.
 
No i didn't say you did im just using him as an example based on the complaints recieved and at the same time blowing a little smoke up his bottom. Knowing the brick as i do he's perfectly capable of taking that without a fuss.:D
 
Replay of Indy race:



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Enjoy!
 
Thanks as always Toffe:bowdown: Raining Toad Leader?:dopey:

Nels right the racing seems closer than ever theres barely room to breath.:scared:
 
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