230+ mph in the draft unrestricted is realistic. The last time time they ran there unrestricted in 1987, Bill Elliot ran a lap at 210 in qualifying. I wasn't alive to watch those races, so i couldn't tell you how fast they went in the draft, but 26 years later they could surely go faster than that
We just told you how fast they can run unrestricted without a draft go back and read the article.
Its common knowledge that the nascars lose grip coming in and out of the dirty air when racing. There is always talk of this in the telecast, and also of the side draft upsetting the cars causing crashes and the like. Car damage can amplify the effect it has. The videos shown are just a few examples of many over the years.
Yes but that isn't the case when you read what the OP is describing, once again I've never seen a cup car loose grip when pulling out of the draft or going into a corner alone.
Like any race cars, the fast drivers in any series drive them on the edge. With NASCAR over the length of the race, the ability to drive on the edge changes depending on the track temp, time of day, wind and car setup. Again, you hear the teams talking about chasing setup as the race progresses.
As for Raikkonen, i am sure if he stuck around he would have made a better fist of things in NASCAR. Im not sure his personality suits the series though, his swapping in and out of different series to do what he wants when he wants probably isnt good in a low down-force, close pack racing like NASCAR offers. Thats just my opinion though from watching him over the last 10 years. I think to be truly great you do need to cut your teeth in them for a very long time.
I'm sure the Ice Man would have gotten better as well especially when JPM did, also the guy supposedly give good feedback so he probably would have done fine.
On topic, do i think the nascars are broken. Short answer, for the GAME, no. But, if GT6 was trying to imitate the real world of NASCAR, then yes it is. There just isnt the amount of accurate adjustments available to make it "real world" accurate. I suppose it depends on your interpretation of broken. I drove Daytona 120 laps the other night in a race, no tune (which in theory should make the car un-drivable on an oval) tire wear normal on RS. Got 22 laps from a set of tires and didnt spin once, even when running very close to the rims.[/quote]
That seems realistic to me, hence why most of us are telling the OP that the cars aren't broken.
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LMS, perhaps you might be best served by talking about things that you actually know about. It doesn't look good when you constantly direct people to threads because they have "all the answers", or "your friends know everything about it". You did this to me last week when you inferred i knew nothing about V8SC here in oz, or even motorsport in general. I learnt very early on that people actually might know more than you think, even though they dont let on. You might just be surprised by what people do in their spare time.
Actually I wasn't constantly doing that I used other sources as well, if all you gleamed was me saying on source then you didn't thoroughly read what I said. I know quite a bit about NASCAR and motorsports in general by following it for 20+ years and studying engineering as well. Also direct me again to me saying that you didn't know anything about V8SC I have that thread bookmarked and I said nothing of the sort, so don't misconstrue and come up with context that doesn't exist. Also that same could be said to you about me, you say I have no idea yet considering what I do outside of GTP...
Also considering the forum your on and how long it has been around and the varies different bits of car information around especially in the motorsports threads that are full of articles, referring to them is appropriate. Especially when you consider that these threads keep popping up with people that think their driving skill is so wonderful that the cars have to be broken, if they went to the appropriate thread they'd see how wrong they are and learn about things they think they know. Just like how RIP holden had already been talked about in another thread prior, and as members we are to inform people in thread overlap as to avoid cluttering the forum. Or did you not see the AUP?
