**CAR OF THE WEEK! Friday 20/07/12**

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Announcing the 24th installment of the Car of the Week series.

A chance for everyone on GTPlanet to get behind the wheel of the same car and give it a thorough going over. The aim is to get people driving what they wouldn't usually drive, or cars that may have been overlooked. They may be great, they may be terrible, but as part of GT5 they deserve discussion right here.

People can show off their amazing photos, trade tuning tips, race one another and review that weeks nominated car. Lap times can be posted, top speeds and acceleration times compared and tips on handling discussed.

We are starting to develop a brilliant bunch of regular contributors but I very much encourage everyone to get involved and have their say. Every week (almost!) a poster will be picked for their contribution in that weeks thread to pick the star car for the following week. Ask anyone that has so far been chosen to pick and I am sure they will tell you what an honor it is! So get involved and it could be you!

Car of the Week - What do YOU think of the car?

So, without further ado, this weeks star car of the week.

Speed counts. Although last week's car wasn't the most powerful, it certainly put smiles on a lot of your faces. But for one member, they were lit on fire! With his 1:12.8something lap, MustangManiac qualified for pole position, winning the right to select our Car of the Week.

On one hand, he's saved you travel expenses. We're staying in London for the opening ceremonies.

On the other, you'll still have to pay congestion charges.

1964 Ginetta G4

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Off for a pint with a Mr. Boris Johnson!
 
A while back I created this thread...
Harvey Wallbanger's Quest for the Holy Grail.
For this I created the Holy Handgrenade as the weapon of choice.
I'll be passing the car over to krenkme in the next few hours. If he will be kind enough to place it on share I believe his princess had picked a new track and set of tires for another quest.:crazy: So I'll update the Quest thread with the new challenge.👍👍

Do you have what it takes to be named to the Knights of the Coconuts?:D:bowdown::gtpflag:
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I'm surprised MustangManiac didn't go for a Jaaaaaag!

Good choice though, the stock G4 is a great drive - really nicely balanced.

I borrowed the Holy Handgrenade a while ago. It's pretty wild but surprisingly useable. Sort of.
 
Great choice in car 👍 very fun to drive :D

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A while back I created this thread...
Harvey Wallbanger's Quest for the Holy Grail.
For this I created the Holy Handgrenade as the weapon of choice.
I'll be passing the car over to krenkme in the next few hours. If he will be kind enough to place it on share I believe his princess had picked a new track and set of tires for another quest.:crazy: So I'll update the Quest thread with the new challenge.👍👍

Do you have what it takes to be named to the Knights of the Coconuts?:D:bowdown::gtpflag:

Yes, it will be on share by Saturday, so if anyone wants to see if they can handle it, shoot me a FR w/Holy Handgrenade.

I might even have a write up this week... we'll see :dopey:
 
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Very Serious SLS AMG Review of the Car of the Week N Stuff

"What is your name? What is your quest? What is the name of the man who oversaw the initial design, first-build and further development of the 1992 Minardi M192 Formula One Gran Prix car?"- Steve Matchett

Week 24: 1964 Ginetta G4

This is it, we've hit rock bottom. Our drunken debauchery and automotive orgy is almost at its end. Tomorrow, we'll use up the last remaining drops of petrol in the tank, and still be about 15 miles from Heathrow airport. Once we're at the airport, we'll still have another 17 hours for the trip back over the pond, and 3 more agonizing miles to our respective cars. Whoever said that "getting there is half the fun" should be shot.

You may remember that last week we flew all the way out to the United Kingdom to test the Mini 13.i. You might even remember the two hoodlums we'd hired to assist us with overcoming local obstacles. However, what you haven't heard was the outcome of that fateful night. While you were comfy watching us on the telly, we were busy being poked, prodded, and interrogated by every acronym in Europe.

Interpol started to sound like the name of the porno we'd star in while being raped in prison. I thought MI5 was some sort of BMW, but it turns out that it's a form of British Intelligence, which isn't saying much if they think we're actually involved in any sort of organized crime. It's not that we're against crime, but rather that we're terribly unorganized. Any kingpin stupid enough to trust us deserves the complications that are sure to ensue.

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Once the Fuzz was done with us, it was our accountants turn. Changing our flights at the last minute had accrued extra fines, and these fines had put an already exacerbated budget into Kirstie Alley proportions. After cutting their own checks, we were advised that as of that moment, we were flat broke.

Desperate times called for desperate measures, and in times of financial duress, we did what every red-blooded American team would do in a foreign land... we freaked the (expletive) out! Pooling our collective money would secure shelter for the remaining week, when we could finally catch a flight back, but after that then what? What about meals? Expenses? What about our jobs?

Thankfully, good fortune smiled upon us, and our producer was able to convince our sponsors to give us another go. They'd wire an absolute minimal amount of funding to keep us from becoming Oliver, and they'd also agreed to cover the cost of transporting the car for our review, but sacrifices would have to be made in order to keep costs down. One penny, one pence, one Credit over budget, and we'd be sacked and the review canned.

So... no pressure.



At the crack of dawn the next morning, box after box and crate after crate began arriving at our modest hotel. I say hotel, but it was actually a room. That's a room... singular. Upon opening our first box, it became clear what we'd be testing, and the attached note reminded us that all expenses had to be kept to a minimum, so we'd be on our own for construction.

Rather than bemoan the fact that our sponsors and accountants had left my professional fate in the hands of ham-fisted, illiterate monkeys, I took solace with how the crew reacted to the challenge. They didn't scratch their heads and start arguing like they do before every other task, but instead tore into each box like a kid getting a Nintendo for Christmas.

Since my professional career was on the line, I began sorting through all the parts in a manner that would make a man with OCD on meth look normal. Every part has it's place, and each piece must be accounted for in an orderly fashion, and with the alacrity required to meet our deadline. Each part must be inspected, to ensure no manufacturing flaws or damage, then it must be assembled and tightened to spec. Anything less isn't driving, it's accelerating parts.

The only things missing were time... and parts checklist.

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According to Polyphony Digital via Translator-san:
Translator-san
In 1957, the Walklett brothers of England stuck a tubular frame of their own design to a Ford engine and transmission, and then marketed their creation as a complete car and in kit form. This was the beginning of the Ginetta, and the car represented here was called the G2.
Um, Translator-san... far be it for me to intrude, but I thought we ordered the G4, not the G2.
Translator-san
Look, I'm just reading what it says on the box. Some things say G2, some say G4, I think there's a G6 in there somewhere, but I could be wrong.
Okay well what else can you, or in this case the box, tell us?
Translator-san
The G2 was an immediate hit, and the company soon developed many enthusiastic fans as a first-rate specialty sports car maker.

The basic principle behind the G4, released in 1961, was simple: attach an FRP (Fiberglass Reinforced Plastic) body to a tubular frame and install an engine up front. The engine was Ford's 1.0-liter ohv, with a 1.3-liter offered as an option. The suspension system consisted of double-wishbones in front and a rigid axle with trailing arms at rear.

The car's extremely light curb weight, around 400 kg, gave it go-kart-like reflexes, making it one of the most thrilling things to drive on four wheels... despite the engine's low output. the G4 received high praise from amateur racers and became a grand success. Ginetta ended up selling more than 500 G4s in 1969, a rarity for a limited-production sports car. Eventually, the Walklett brothers released their interest in the company and the G4 disappeared. But in the late 1980s, production of a new G4 began again. the revived G4 embraced the values of the original car and struck a chord with enthusiasts all over again.

I'm not entirely sure why every automobile manufacturer in England insists on building cars in a shed, but clearly it's working. Think about it. Lotus- a light and fragile shed. TVR- shed you can't get out of. Ginetta- shed built by shed-makers. McLaren- sci-fi techno-shed. British Leyland- half a shed... maybe it was an outhouse. That man down the street working on his engine? No, that's Aston Martin. Bentley's shed is bigger than everyone else, but Rolls-Royce's shed is the only one with a chandelier.

Then there's the Mini... which is its own shed.

Ginetta may be in a shed, but at least it's a shed that sets you on the path to building your own home. Unlike purchasing your everyday Aveo, Ginetta offers owners the chance to participate in programs designed to create a professional racing career. If you want to learn what it's like for every other racing driver on the planet, Ginetta has a kit that's sure to fill your appetite. If you're any good at it, you'll progress onto the next level with more powerful machinery, more sponsors, and more women with your name crossing their lips.

Get it wrong and you'll be next to us, completely broke. Dem's da breaks, kid.

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While the bodywork was being unwrapped and subsequently prepped, our producer and I went over the testing assignments and logistics for our eventual trial. Despite the sanding, I must say, for an English bird she's got some beautiful plumage. Her rounded hips and curved fenders harken to the AC 427 from Week 15, also built in a shed. The single protruding exhaust pipe denotes a sensible engine, with lightness given priority to power. I quite like it, and many others around the globe do as well, which is why it's still being produced today.

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Steve- Cameraman with nerves of Jello.

For the initial shakedown and straight line test, we've volunteered delegated the task to Steve, one of our cameramen. Steve was elected because of his grand stature... he's short... and his experience behind the wheel... he's the only one other than me that can drive a manual. Steve has also been with us since day one, so he remains quite confident that the car will perform exactly as it was designed.

Actually, Steve looks more like he's just been told that his wife died... and he's being audited... the same day he's due at the dentist...

Performance as Purchased: March 7, 2011, Lotus Yellow (Yellow)
Displacement: 1,496 cc
Max. Power: 82 hp @ 5,100 rpm
Max. Torque: 89 ft-lbs. @ 4,500 rpm
Drivetrain: FR
Length: 3,353 mm Height: 1,067 mm Weight: 454 kg
Tires: Sports (Hard)
Performance Points: 425
Mileage: 25,619.3 mi.

Once finally assembled, our G4 looked like something straight off a race track. Lathered in the appropriate yellow, the British sunlight reflecting off of a British car with British paint brought me to tears! Well, that and the 26 hours I had just put in assembling the damn thing with the rest of the crew, only to have a few factory workers from Ginetta drop by to insult and jab at our shoddy work.

It was all in good fun, but after 26 hours the initial insults hurled might as well have been boulders to our collective morale. If you can imagine reading instructions in your own language... only not... then you can imagine the sort of mental strain we had put ourselves through. At one point, Tim had the trunk lid fastened to his foot, because the instructions called it a "boot". Eric refused to fit the bonnet because he's a grown man, and Wendell was absolutely convinced a spanner was used to measure the width of the Grand Canyon.

As an act of good faith, and because we must've looked completely ragged and desperate, the Ginetta boys stepped in to help us fit the remaining parts that are always left over from a project of this scale and timing. If you're wondering why your precious replica Cobra exploded itself into a bajillion pieces all over the drag strip, that little telltale pile of washers, bolts, and nuts should be your first clue. All told, we got 9 hp, 10 ft-lb. of torque, and 15 Performance Points... which I'm told are useful at the car wash.. for something. In exchange, Ginetta got... or will get... 38,000 Cr. worth of publicity for their assistance.
For those keeping score at home, other notable data includes: Max. Power: 91 hp, Max. Torque: 99 ft-lb., Max. Performance Points: 440 PP

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Sniveling like the Cowardly Lion, we managed to coax Steve into the driver's seat of our untested car-of-kit. Buckled into the unquestionably questionable safety harness, Steve winced as he started the engine for the first time. Pops and crackles, but no explosions. Since there wasn't much in the way of an interior, the vibrations must've been disheartening. Steve nursed the G4 up to the line with the speed of Billy Graham to the grave.

Ever so gingerly, Steve left the line, and completed the test run without any undue drama. At least there wasn't any apparent undo drama. No wheel spin, power-slides, snap over or understeer, and no collisions or damage. Even so, Steve still found himself in desperate need of the loo about midway down the track. It wasn't as if he was going light speed... he only managed the quarter-mile in 0:17.191, and 0-60 mph in 0:09.136. This wasn't terrifyingly fast by any stretch of the imagination!
For those keeping score at home, other notable data includes: 0-1 mi.: 0:42.272, 0-100 mph: 0:23.959, Max. G-Force: 0.52G, Top Speed: 139.9 mph



As with last week, we've had to do our hardcore testing when the traffic is of the late-night-cable-softcore variety, in the wee hours of the morning. Thankfully Fry and Laurie had made bail, and fancied a bit of payback on "The Man". Immediately after they were released from police custody, they commandeered one of London's Finest examples of automotive technology, from the same lot they were previously withheld in. While Laurie hacked the tracking electronics, Fry went to work on the ignition. Minutes later, we had our own direct access to London's Finest networks.

Coincidentally, their testicles are made from the same unobtainium that powers cold fusion.

The one thing we hadn't bothered to factor into our equation was "the best laid schemes of mice and men." The timing was perfect, the monitoring of the authorities was perfect, the lack of pedestrians was perfect. What wasn't perfect were the cars lining the streets, but nothing could be done about that except to avoid them. Sounds simple enough.

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Third gear. Third gear was what I was in after exiting the fifth turn, not second or fourth. I had just come out of second, and didn't skip to fourth. No, instead, I was in third gear, and after shifting from second into third, it was in third that I was in at the moment of impact. I don't have a fifth gear, so that is right out.

The car is no more. It has ceased to be. I know a dead car when I see it... or two in this case, and I'm looking at them right now. No, I can assure you this car is deceased, and when we finished it 2 hours ago, I was assured its stagnant and slow progress would be safe, not pining for the fjords. You can't tell me that the G4 prefers to be implanted into the side of a squad car, but it was nailed there. Now this car wouldn't even move if you pounded out each of its 4,000 individual dents. It has passed on. It has expired and gone on to meet its maker. This is a late car, bereft of life. It rests in peace.

Had I not nailed the police car, I'd have nailed any other car. The go-kart reflexes of the front are difficult to match with the live axle in the rear, each working separately but never together. This is an ex-car. If you want to get anything done with this car, you'll have to complain until you're blue in the mouth.

Tomorrow I suspect we'll be canceled, ridiculed in the tabloids, and fined enough money to free Europe from its present financial crisis... twice. But I don't care. Stiff upper lip. We built our own friggin car, and how many people get to say that? And if the car was to blame for our incident, then shouldn't the blame be shared by the MOT for giving us our documents?

Why am I not bothered? Because tomorrow, after I've been fired and crucified, I can go out to my shed... and start my own supercar company.


Week 1: 2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0i V6 24V

Week 2: 1966 Alfa Romeo Spider 1600 Duetto
Week 3: 2000 Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT-APEX (S. Shigeno Ver.)
Week 4: 2007 Audi TT Coupe 3.2 Quattro
Week 5: 1983 Nissan Silvia 240RS (S110) and 1985 Nissan 240RS Rally Car
Week 6: 1973 BMW 2002 Turbo
Week 7: 2004 DMC DeLorean S2
Week 8: 1971 Nissan Fairlady 240ZG (HS30) and 1971 Nissan 240ZG (HS30)
Week 9: 1985 Lancia Delta S4 Rally Car
Week 10: 1991 Mercedes-Benz 190 E 2.5- 16 Evolution II and 1992 AMG Mercedes-Benz 190 E 2.5- 16 Evolution II Touring Car
Week 11: 1999 Lotus Motor Sport Elise and 1996 Lotus Elise and 1998 Lotus Elise Sport 190
Week 12: 2001 Audi RS4
Week 13: 1968 Isuzu 117 Coupe
Week 14: 1969 Camaro Z28 and 1969 Camaro Z28 RM and 1969 Camaro SS
Week 15: The Shelby Cars
Week 16: 1979 Honda Civic 1500 3door CX
Week 17: 1967 Mercury Cougar XR-7
Week 18: 1967 Prince Skyline 2000GT-B
Week 19: 1967 Toyota 2000GT
Week 20: 2002 Audi S3
Week 21: 2004 Oullim Motors Spirra 4.6 V8
Week 22: 1988 Toyota SUPRA 3.0GT Turbo A and 1990 Toyota SUPRA 2.5GT Twin Turbo R
Week 23: 1998 Mini Cooper 1.3i


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I'm surprised MustangManiac didn't go for a Jaaaaaag!

Good choice though, the stock G4 is a great drive - really nicely balanced.

I borrowed the Holy Handgrenade a while ago. It's pretty wild but surprisingly useable. Sort of.

True, I love my Jags, but the model PD used for the E-Type in the game is terrible. I had one very similar, a few years newer (1968) and a convertible, but still a series one E-Type. That car stuck to the road like glue as did the 54' XK-120 and the 90' XJS, every Jag I have ever owned or driven has been like that. PD really did a dis-service to the Jag in the game.

I am unfamiliar with the Ginetta, but it just looks mean and nasty! To me it screams "Get the h*ll out of my way I am coming through". If she drives anything like she looks, it's going to be a fun week 👍
 
For anyone interested, I'll be hosting my usual CLEAN & RELAXED room, and will throw in some Ginetta races if asked. 10p CST US, send me a PM on the PSN and I'll get you the room number.
 
I'll have to hunt for this in the UCD. It's given me a hell of a time in the classic car seasonal event, so it's got to be decent at least.
The Holy Handgrenade looks insane :boggled:
 
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I'll have to hunt for this in the UCD. It's given me a hell of a time in the classic car seasonal event, so it's got to be decent at least.
The Holy Handgrenade looks insane :boggled:

You can also check the Marketplace section, someone's bound to have one. Perhaps even a birthday ticket.

Funny you should mention the Seasonal, as that's precisely why it was chosen. See how it works out for ya, and report back.

And welcome to GTPlanet.
 
I'll have to hunt for this in the UCD. It's given me a hell of a time in the classic car seasonal event, so it's got to be decent at least.
The Holy Handgrenade looks insane :boggled:
Stock the G4 is much like the Spira from a couple weeks ago very oversteery. Needless to say giving it a full tune like with the "Holy Handgrenade" is just asking for trouble. Given full attention and a delicate touch on the controls it can be fairly quick and a lot of fun if your into having your driving skills challenged. Krenkme's somewhat tamer "Fruit Punch" tune is a more relaxed drive but regardless of tune the G4 will never be confused with an easy going grip monster that you can cruise.:crazy:
This is a drivers car that will require your full attention at all times as opposed to something you just hop in and cruise about with.
 
If I can get my hands on a G4, I might get behind this one, seeing how it runs away with every race in the new seasonal, it would be interesting to see how one that doesn't have a fat turbo strapped on handles. If I remember right, this car does not like to exit a corner without a but of drama. If anyone has a spare they could put on borrow/send to me, it would be great.
 
appoh jack
I'll have to hunt for this in the UCD. It's given me a hell of a time in the classic car seasonal event, so it's got to be decent at least.
The Holy Handgrenade looks insane :boggled:

Send me a FR and you can try the Holy Handgenade 👍


@McCleran, thanks for the races. I had fun... oh and by the way, that was a very tuned down "Fruit Punch" you raced against :dopey:
 
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I don't think I need to point out exactly how scary this statement really is, lol.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4mmSFm9ByY">YouTube Link</a>

Ouch!!!!
 

That's like asking Steven Hawking to set up your suspension for the Nurburgring. He may be able to do the math, but it still won't feel right because it isn't tailored to the way the driver drives.

My personal perspective on tuning is this: Less is More. The more I can manipulate and use the cars natural abilities/tendencies, the less chance I have of making the car completely useless. I'll add some parts, sure, but I won't go mucking about with the default settings if there's no reason to. 9 times out of 10, it's just the gearing that needs attention.

That being said, when you do finally get serious about driving, there are a lot of lessons that simply have to be learned on your own, which means constant failure... or success in finding what doesn't work, which is how I rationalize it.

It's also just an opinion and my personal philosophy. I've made it known on here on more than one occasion that I don't know (expletive) about (expletive). It's not my fault, though. I went to public schools.
 
Another car I've really enjoyed driving for quite some time now. I've had mine since 2010/12/24, so a nice present to open that year... Since then, I've painted it in a very sharp Admiral Blue Metallic, and punched it up to a whopping 254hp. A crazy fun giant killer and one that still makes me laugh watching the replays and looking at how small it is compared to the other cars.

Another very cool choice for the COTW... Thanks people!

Have a good one :)
 
After much delay, it's finally ready... now I can get 2 hours of sleep before work.

As usual, if you think it's funny and worth it, share the link on your Facebooks, Twitters, and/or share it on Google+.

On a side note, our 6 month anniversary is coming up. Open to suggestions on how to celebrate.
 


Since no one has cast the gauntlet yet... 1:06.090 @ London. There's plenty more out there, I assure you.
 
1964 Ginetta G4​

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Before an oil change the car was rated at 90hp/437pp and after 94hp/444pp With my usual mild tune she came to 125hp/482pp. Her numbers at the test track:

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1/4 mi...17.139 / 14.779
1.0 mi...41.111 / 36.926
0 - 60...09.048 / 06.109
to 100...23.601 / 15.509
max G....00.52 / 00.70
Max spd..140.1 / 145.4
My best of ten laps at Grand Valley Speedway was 2:27.162 with the stock car and 2:12.203 tuned

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My initial reactions: spacing from 1st/2nd gear was very wide, surprize that she came with a 5 speed box, the top end was impressive for a car of this vintage (beating the GT-350 and both camaro + RM at the test track), outstanding brakes and quite well behaved in most situations. There just seemed to be something missing that I couldn't put my finger on just yet.

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One of the reasons I chose this car was that it was listed in the "typical opponents" section in the most recent seasonal challenges. I figured the challenges would give us a great platform to assess the cars performance if we chose to do so. When I first went through the seasonals I chose an S2000 rated at 400pp even and was able to silver two events and bronze three with it. With the stock Ginetta rated at 444 I figured I should be able to better my finishes at least and with the tuned version should be easy golds all around. It was at these seasonals that I figured out what exactly was missing.

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My first shot at Madrid ended with a 10th place finish and a best lap of 1:08.181. How incredibly disappointing! I don't mind losing if I at least have a fighting chance, but this was terrible. I decided to swap out the stock gear box for a close ratio one, no other mods and give it another go. An 8th place finish with a lap of 1:08.131, only .05 seconds faster, this would never do! I couldn't believe that with 44pp more I couldn't even come close to the performance of the S2000. I figured I might as well take the tuned version out and see what I could do with it.

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Madrid City - 4th place, best lap: 1:04.272
Eiger Nordwand - 6th place, best lap: 1:20.866
Monaco - 1st place, best lap: 2:04.288
Rome City - 5th place, best lap: 1:29.670
Eifel Kart - 6th place, best lap: 1:05.775

With the exception of Monaco I couldn't even keep pace with my times with the S2000 even though I had an extra 82pp at my disposal. That is when I figured it out, this car is the living embodiment of the racers creed "there is no substitute for horse power", she just didn't have the power to match those wicked good looks with her performance. I mean seriously, 125 ponies, most every motorcycle I have owned had more than that!

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What is it with all the bullying when your in such a small car? In the pic above I was going for the lead when the driver just body slammed me into the armco knocking me back to 3rd place. I battled back to 2nd, but I wanted revenge and here is where I got it. Again, going for the lead this time in the chicane, I took the inside line and purposely pinched him into the wall at the exit, I don't know where he finished, but I took first.

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OK, so maybe not my finest moment...but he had it coming! My final verdict, she just didn't quite do it for me. Oh, she is sexy as all get out with curves in all the right places and hella fun to drive, but I just need a little something more, I need a bit more power and excitement. One last observation, a little something you need to watch out for when driving a car this small and light...

KURBS!!!
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That's wild! I had trouble threading the needle around London, and yeah, the kurbs are killer. Hard to find the right balance with this car.
 
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