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Interesting that you took people to task for using the word "forcing", then misused the word "work" and "effort"

No, you read that wrong. Forcing is used to describe the psychological effect that some of us have, to "need" a car that costs the 20 mil credits. Mr Greycap wrote that if you "want" it, most likely as not in any hurry to put other activities out of theirway to obtain. Or as one earlier reffered, you can rubber band it, which in that case, would be the need to have the car, as you are devoting yourself to reach the price to buy and spend all you have.

Nice try trying to trick someone's words who had no intention, the stereotypical north still prevails..
 
You can doubt all you want. 10 million (the current record price before commission for a GT40, which happened to be the sister car of the one in the game and thus nearly identical) divided by 3 million (the hypothetical price you gave) still doesn't equal 10 (the amount you feel should be multiplied to the price you gave to get the "real" price).
A zero mile GT40 in real life would be worth a small fraction of the value of the one in the game.

Actually the GT40 sold for 11 Million and that was the 1968, the ones in the game are a 66 and a 69 and of course they are brand new showroom condition with 0 miles.

In any case I don't have a problem with the prices in the game most cars are cheap enough and the few that are high dollar are cool cars that I don't mind saving up for or as was the case in previous maybe get one or 2 of them for free as race prizes or as with a prize ticket.

Correction I guess only the 66 is new but wasn't the 69 quite a bit cheaper? Around 12 million or so?
 
No, you read that wrong. Forcing is used to describe the psychological effect that some of us have, to "need" a car that costs the 20 mil credits. Mr Greycap wrote that if you "want" it, most likely as not in any hurry to put other activities out of theirway to obtain. Or as one earlier reffered, you can rubber band it, which in that case, would be the need to have the car, as you are devoting yourself to reach the price to buy and spend all you have.

Nice try trying to trick someone's words who had no intention, the stereotypical north still prevails..

Ordinarily I'd respond to the extremely out of place (all the more so compared to your level-headed posts earlier in the thread) North/South antagonism by cracking a joke asking you how slavery turned out and ignoring the rest; but since you didn't really do anything besides repeat what Greycap already said (which I understood the first time, thanks. He was saying that the word "forced" is misused since you don't really need the cars for anything; which is an extremely straightforward point that he nonetheless still undermined by assuming that people want the cars cheaper simply because it's too hard or takes too much work when neither has anything to do with it) I'm more curious whether you posted for any reason other than to start something about the state I live in.




Actually the GT40 sold for 11 Million

I said before commission for exactly that reason.


and that was the 1968, the ones in the game are a 66 and a 69

Nope. Both the one in that auction (1074) and the one in the game (1975) were originally built by John Wyer (former head of the GT40 program) in 1967 as Mirage M1s (along with a third car); based on the Mk I GT40 design but with a larger engine, a much lighter chassis and smoother bodywork. This is what they looked like:
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In early 1968 they were both converted to be closer to the original GT40 spec (with the smaller 4.9 liter engine and the original GT40 bodywork, but retaining the lightweight chassis) so they would fit under the Group 4 classification and be able to continue racing as production cars after the larger engined cars were all banned from competing. They were both built at the same time in the same way and those two (unlike the later Gulf GT40s) are the true sister cars. The date GT5 has for the Gulf GT40 is wrong by simple virtue of the fact that it would be hard for that specific car to win races in 1968 as it did if it didn't exist yet.


and of course they are brand new showroom condition with 0 miles.

Which would lower the price in real life because a brand new showroom-condition car wouldn't have been a multiple-race winning car from the late 1960s, like both of the GT40s in the game are (as well as the one in that auction). If I rang up Ford and asked them to build me up a Mk IV GT40 using period parts they found in a warehouse, it wouldn't be worth anything compared to an original one that has the provenance of winning Le Mans in 1967; just like the Shelby continuance Cobras aren't worth anything compared to one with racing history. The value is the history (or at least predominate part of it); and if you need any more convincing, the lowest mileage (4500), completely unrestored-but-still-immaculate GT40 which was used by Carrol Shelby as a promotional car sold for a third of what chassis 1074 did.
 
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"The most expensive Lamborghini ever..."

Reventon '08: Cr. 1,210,000

Miura P400 Bertone Prototype CN.0706 '67" Cr. 15,000,000

What kind of logic is this?
Hahahaha I thought about that when I saw the picture after reading the thread title.
 
Well you can't count the price before commission as a sale price unless you are the seller. The buyer paid $11mil so that is the price, not the amount that went into the sellers pocket but the amount that leaves the buyers pocket.

And yes if some how there was a 0 mile version of that same car in mint condition it would be a very valuable thing indeed and no that is not the same as one that was built last week using old parts but rather one that was built on the same day in the same place with the same parts by the same people just never driven and kept away from the elements.

btw isn't the one in the game the one that won Lemans twice in a row? The only car that had ever done so at the time and one of very few that have done so to date. That one would be quite a bit more valuable than the one that did not win Lemans wouldn't you think?

But again who cares, there is only a small handful of pricey cars in the game, If you don't like to pay $$ then don't buy them, there are plenty of cars under 100K to choose from and if you do want the very exotic classics then run some races, do some trading or maybe they will even be prizes in some of the events. I know I did not have much trouble getting all of them in GT5 even with that silly 20 mil cap on the credits.

Of course it they dropped the price to 10 mil on it in game I would be happy with that as it would be eaiser to get. I just don;t see much reason to whine about the price that is there now
 
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I wonder how much the Vision GT concept cars will cost, or if they can only be won? Drivable concept cars can easily cost millions of dollars in real life...
 
And yes if some how there was a 0 mile version of that same car in mint condition it would be a very valuable thing indeed and no that is not the same as one that was built last week using old parts but rather one that was built on the same day in the same place with the same parts by the same people just never driven and kept away from the elements.

I never said that it wouldn't be more valuable than a comparably pedestrian GT40. I said it would be a fraction as valuable as a car like 1074 or 1075, as that Shelby promotional shows. "Very valuable" simply does not mean the same thing as "just as valuable as a car with a hugely successful racing history when sports car racing was at its peak that was later used to help create a famous movie to document it"; which is why race cars of any sort with notable racing histories attached to them are worth so much more than the versions without.


btw isn't the one in the game the one that won Lemans twice in a row? The only car that had ever done so at the time and one of very few that have done so to date. That one would be quite a bit more valuable than the one that did not win Lemans wouldn't you think?

No I wouldn't. 1074 had a similar racing provenance (and was the only one to win races as a Mirage and as a GT40, meaning it beat out the factory efforts from Ford and Ferrari) and was chosen to be driven and extensively used in a movie by someone who always dramatically raises the prices of cars personally attached to him. I'd say it would be a push. This point is also incompatible with the one you made above, since a car in real life can't be a 0 mileage mint condition barn find (thus raising the price) and have a successful racing history of multiple high profile wins (thus raising the price); so it's irrelevant to the purposes of the value of the car in the game.
 
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I wonder how much the Vision GT concept cars will cost, or if they can only be won? Drivable concept cars can easily cost millions of dollars in real life...
I just wonder how they sound. MB said their engineers created the sound for the car for GT to use... Might be the first V8 we get
 
I just wonder how they sound. MB said their engineers created the sound for the car for GT to use... Might be the first V8 we get

Good point. But if it's anything like their real life Mercedes V8 engines, it will sound great anyway.
 
I wonder how much the Vision GT concept cars will cost, or if they can only be won? Drivable concept cars can easily cost millions of dollars in real life...
Free DLC. Don't know if they'll show up for sale in the game after the DLC.
 
I'm fine with the prices of cars, so long as they keep the money you earn from completing races on the same level as in GT5.
 
Sorry I meant I wonder how much these cars will cost in the game.
Yes I know, that's why I said I don't know whether they'll even be for sale in the game, don't believe it's been mentioned. Might be a one time deal, who knows:confused:.
 
Yes I know, that's why I said I don't know whether they'll even be for sale in the game, don't believe it's been mentioned. Might be a one time deal, who knows:confused:.

Most likely i assume itll be in the PS Store for people to download and itll stay there. It'd be a rip-off to some who couldnt get the game and it be gone.

Or it could turn out like the stealth code for the NSX (or maybe the GT500, i cant remeber) where it was there for a month and then it was gone..
 
Speaking about the new premium GT40 Mk.I, it costs 3,200,200.
Remember, the official site has data about prices of the cars that have Anniversary versions.
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HOLD ON...

WTF!? I just looked back at those pictures in the initial post. The Chrome Line PREORDER Collector's Edition cars for GT5 are available in-game to purchase? Are you JOKING ME? WOW!

That's ridiclous. The idea of transferring my GT5 exclusives over to GT6 was just awesome. They go and give every customer who's got the GT5 CE the middle finger like that? That's pretty pathetic. How could they do that? They should at least lock the cars so only folks who own the Chrome Lines can obtain them in GT6. Probably through Save Data info or some other means. Or we could just transfer them over, of course.

This is RIDICULOUS. They already took one step towards retardation by giving everyone a digital version of the GT5 CE Kyosho GTR that came with every CE.

Sad.
 
HOLD ON...

WTF!? I just looked back at those pictures in the initial post. The Chrome Line PREORDER Collector's Edition cars for GT5 are available in-game to purchase? Are you JOKING ME? WOW!

That's ridiclous. The idea of transferring my GT5 exclusives over to GT6 was just awesome. They go and give every customer who's got the GT5 CE the middle finger like that? That's pretty pathetic. How could they do that? They should at least lock the cars so only folks who own the Chrome Lines can obtain them in GT6. Probably through Save Data info or some other means. Or we could just transfer them over, of course.

This is RIDICULOUS. They already took one step towards retardation by giving everyone a digital version of the GT5 CE Kyosho GTR that came with every CE.

Sad.
You're saying I should be blocked from purchasing cars in GT6 because I didn't pre-order a game 3 years ago.
 
I can understand the fury/disappointment of those who bought the Collector's Edition and/or the Signature Edition three years ago. I suppose I'd feel the same, but c'mon you've had your fun with the exclusivity of these couple cars for a decent period of time now. You've still got these cars in GT5.
 
HOLD ON...

WTF!? I just looked back at those pictures in the initial post. The Chrome Line PREORDER Collector's Edition cars for GT5 are available in-game to purchase? Are you JOKING ME? WOW!

That's ridiclous. The idea of transferring my GT5 exclusives over to GT6 was just awesome. They go and give every customer who's got the GT5 CE the middle finger like that? That's pretty pathetic. How could they do that? They should at least lock the cars so only folks who own the Chrome Lines can obtain them in GT6. Probably through Save Data info or some other means. Or we could just transfer them over, of course.

This is RIDICULOUS. They already took one step towards retardation by giving everyone a digital version of the GT5 CE Kyosho GTR that came with every CE.

Sad.

GT6 is a new game so PD has every right to do this and don't forget that the CE and SE of GT5 contained more than just exclusive in-game content. Let it go.
 
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HOLD ON...

WTF!? I just looked back at those pictures in the initial post. The Chrome Line PREORDER Collector's Edition cars for GT5 are available in-game to purchase? Are you JOKING ME? WOW!

That's ridiclous. The idea of transferring my GT5 exclusives over to GT6 was just awesome. They go and give every customer who's got the GT5 CE the middle finger like that? That's pretty pathetic. How could they do that? They should at least lock the cars so only folks who own the Chrome Lines can obtain them in GT6. Probably through Save Data info or some other means. Or we could just transfer them over, of course.

This is RIDICULOUS. They already took one step towards retardation by giving everyone a digital version of the GT5 CE Kyosho GTR that came with every CE.

Sad.


Astonishing someone can be this upset over something so stupid. Its a digital car in a video game. They are not just giving them away either they have to be bought and I can guarantee you GT5 premiums with fantasy paint jobs are way low on my gt6 shopping list.
 
I have the GT5 CE and I really don't care if the chromelines are available to everyone. GT6 is not an extension of GT5 and it was never stated that the chromeline and stealth cars would remain exclusive forever. And I'm glad they aren't. I always wanted to own all of the stealth cars.
 
That's ridiclous. The idea of transferring my GT5 exclusives over to GT6 was just awesome.

Sad.
There is no transferring of GT5 anything to GT6. We were told this a few weeks back.
GT6 will not look at your GT5 save and reward/transfer anything to you.
 
Preordering a game 3 years ago and/or buying a special version of a game 3 years ago does not guarantee that no one else will ever be able to access the content that you bought, even in future games in the series. Particularly when your purchase of the Collector's/Signature Edition came with a bunch of other stuff too. Hell, I gave my Chromeline codes away to a friend on GTP.
 
Lets see what the payouts are like for the harder/higher level races. A BMW Z4 GT3 around 350k isn't that much. If you save every credit from the "novice" round in gt6 (going by the picture of the site) @4k a win, you should be around 32k minus the coffee break and any additional payout for winning a championship. Will be interesting to see if the license tests give payouts as well.
 
Lets see what the payouts are like for the harder/higher level races. A BMW Z4 GT3 around 350k isn't that much. If you save every credit from the "novice" round in gt6 (going by the picture of the site) @4k a win, you should be around 32k minus the coffee break and any additional payout for winning a championship. Will be interesting to see if the license tests give payouts as well.
So you have to run 8 races to win enough money to purchase a run of the mill everyday sedan? That's not exactly encouraging:ouch:
 
So you have to run 8 races to win enough money to purchase a run of the mill everyday sedan? That's not exactly encouraging:ouch:
Assuming, I'm going there again, that gold also includes silver+bronze payouts, it's a bit more than that.
 
So you have to run 8 races to win enough money to purchase a run of the mill everyday sedan? That's not exactly encouraging:ouch:
Stuff like this is good for me, because I have no life and will be able to get all the cool cars while other people are with busy with boring stuff like friends and family.
 
Stuff like this is good for me, because I have no life and will be able to get all the cool cars while other people are with busy with boring stuff like friends and family.
At $32K for 8 races, you won't be buying a lot of cool cars. A lot of old sedans and hatchbacks maybe...:lol:
 
So you have to run 8 races to win enough money to purchase a run of the mill everyday sedan? That's not exactly encouraging:ouch:
Thats going by 4k which I estimated to be the bronze + silver + gold payout. Which is conservative for one and constant (meaning payout doesn't increase from one event to the next). If it increases to 1k more total for the next events (x 3 and x3) it would come to 41k. Which is enough for plenty of fast cars. Not to mention car prizes for completing the events in first place.
 
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