Change gold time for Vettel Challenge?

[Zenith]

Golded them a while ago. Isn't the entire point of the golf times that we can race against the time Sebastian Vettel set?

 

[Yev]

Why do you care about trophies, did you buy the game because of that?

Isn't the entire point of the golf times that we can race against the time Sebastian Vettel set?

This, poll is made invalid.
Gold --> Beat S.Vettel

 

[gakujin]

Why do you care about trophies, did you buy the game because of that?

This, poll is made invalid.
Gold --> Beat S.Vettel

Well, besides the fact that this game was my christmas gift from my wife. I do play this game because of the trophies, they are good challenges. If you think that everyone bought this game just for racing... There are such people known as trophywhores. In my case, I'm a trophy fan because having trophies for certain games is a sign of skill and/or dedication. Basically I know that there are people that if they get platinum, they would stop playing GT5 alltogether, lol.

 

[Laynas_Daddi]

Well, besides the fact that this game was my christmas gift from my wife. I do play this game because of the trophies, they are good challenges. If you think that everyone bought this game just for racing... There are such people known as trophywhores. In my case, I'm a trophy fan because having trophies for certain games is a sign of skill and/or dedication. Basically I know that there are people that if they get platinum, they would stop playing GT5 alltogether, lol.

I am going to go out on a limb here and say that "most" trophy whores are not going to play a game that takes somewhere in the neighborhood of at least 200 hours of gameplay to complete. I was an achievement/ gamerscore whore on xbox and only played the easily attainable games.

 

[gakujin]

Well, I'm not talking about how many are there, I'm just saying there are. I don't get games because of the trophies but, usually the trophies are my priority in a game that features them, because they are a sense of completion. If a comparison is needed, then the trophy topic is like the difference between people that treat GT5 like a game and people that treat it like a simulator. You sometimes hear wheel users criticizing ds3 users because ds3 is not real driving. In the end they are both having fun >.> in their way. Just like I have fun trying to get trophies. I know that I will barely play or stop playing GT5 completely if I get plat, even if I doubt I'll ever do it.

 

[dabest2500]

DS3
Everything off
Manual
At the first corners try to drift a bit and use the HB to turn the car's nose in, keep your line as close as possible and try to have a good exit from the 1st S to the second and from the 2nd S to the bridge, so you can pick up speed for that short straight before the right hand corner.
To the right hand corner before the tunnel and to the right corner before finish use 3rd Gear.

Good Luck!

HB?
Also, I don't usually drive without ABS...

 

[Laynas_Daddi]

HB?
Also, I don't usually drive without ABS...

Handbrake... If you can use it the right way... For me I tried to practice this technique because I can certainly see it's usefulness. However with my fat fingers and old brain, I couldn't get it.... Lol

 

[ussr]

There is no need to change Gold times in Vettel challenge, gamers without skills don't deserve to achieve gold. That's the end of that topic

 

[dabest2500]

Handbrake... If you can use it the right way... For me I tried to practice this technique because I can certainly see it's usefulness. However with my fat fingers and old brain, I couldn't get it.... Lol

Handbrake + 8C = Understeer (what the...)
But seriously, that 8C handles worse than the Titanic.

There is no need to change Gold times in Vettel challenge, gamers without skills don't deserve to achieve gold. That's the end of that topic

You mean like yourself?

 

[Hideki_GT5]

Well, I was able to get bronze on the X2010 Challenge before the bronze times were changed and there was no Sensibility option. Now with this option, I got Gold on Monza and Nurburgring, and I'm really near the gold in Suzuka.. With the DS3, though.

 

[sdf]

Thank you Laynas_Daddi.
HB=Handbrake

HB?
Also, I don't usually drive without ABS...

Sorry, My mistake ABS = 1, i always forget to count the ABS as aid :S

Handbrake + 8C = Understeer (what the...)

You use the handbrake to force the car to oversteer wile you are cornering, to heal the understeer in the first tight corners.

I'll export the replay video >> rar it >> and i'll upload it to hotfile or rapidshare. I'll pm you the link so you can import it to your GT and have a close look
btw... Ive gold it before the "Sensitivity adjustment" becomes available, so i cant help you with that setting.

Sorry for the offtopic.

 

[ussr]

You mean like yourself?

I did beat that challenge couple of times for Gold, and it's easy enough, but if someone can't do it so what's the problem ? The Game is not for him, just leave it instead crying.

 

[gakujin]

I did beat that challenge couple of times for Gold, and it's easy enough, but if someone can't do it so what's the problem ? The Game is not for him, just leave it instead crying.

Stating that the challenge is easy is proof enough that you haven't done it. Even some of the best state the Vettel Challenge is hard. Basically you're an elitist. If you look at the poll near 60% of the voters want the gold times changed, and of the ones that don't, a lot are saying they can't do it. So what are you saying, the game isn't for over 80% of the world? LOL. Now THAT is funny.

 

[Exorcet]

As the Carbon can only be found in the VC (at least now), the times should be increased. Either that or allow transmission upgrades for the other X1's.

 

[ussr]

Stating that the challenge is easy is proof enough that you haven't done it. Even some of the best state the Vettel Challenge is hard. Basically you're an elitist. If you look at the poll near 60% of the voters want the gold times changed, and of the ones that don't, a lot are saying they can't do it. So what are you saying, the game isn't for over 80% of the world? LOL. Now THAT is funny.

I used a wheel so was not a problem for me, but to give you some balance i can tell honestly that Alfa Competizione C 8 Eiger Challenge was hardest in GT5 for me, maybe other players didn't have so much problems with that track and car but i spend there 5 hours straight driving and changing setups, brake's ABS, TC. Trying and trying. Entire Vettel Challenge was easier and i did it quicker that this one Track. I'm not the stig, just average player and i have upsides and downsides tracks that suits my better that others. So what i wrote earlier was true! After beating Platinum trophy i did try to improve my lap times and it was fun.

Vettel needs wheel and practice nothing more. I could easy replace entire Vettel Challenge with Alfa Competizione C8 Eiger track and then i would say OMG !!!! This is impossible and hard beyond believe but i spend there 5 hours and i beat it so finally wasn't that difficult.

There is and was so many Vettel threads over last months and i know it must be difficult but seriously! It's just wipeout on wheels So grab your energy drink and try harder!

 

[xX_F Alonso_Xx]

I don't want it changed. I didn't want the bronze time being changed either. I worked my a** off for that using a DS3, and now people can get one so easily by coasting each track. WTF PD. With the steering sensitivity added I got 1 gold and 2 silvers. Yes it is hard, but I don't want the times changed as that diminishes the challenge.

 

[dabest2500]

Thank you Laynas_Daddi.
HB=Handbrake

Sorry, My mistake ABS = 1, i always forget to count the ABS as aid :S


You use the handbrake to force the car to oversteer wile you are cornering, to heal the understeer in the first tight corners.

I'll export the replay video >> rar it >> and i'll upload it to hotfile or rapidshare. I'll pm you the link so you can import it to your GT and have a close look
btw... Ive gold it before the "Sensitivity adjustment" becomes available, so i cant help you with that setting.

Sorry for the offtopic.

Okay, thanks.

I did beat that challenge couple of times for Gold, and it's easy enough, but if someone can't do it so what's the problem ? The Game is not for him, just leave it instead crying.

Hey hey, I was just joking

 

[StingrayX]

You serious racers need to calm down and stop boasting about your great times in a video game...its not like you achieved a world record, chill.

 

[boredgunner]

Don't make it easier.

 

[JadeRaven]

I got a couple of bronze's before the update and it took quite a bit of effort.

Then there must have been an update which upped the times because I got to nurburgring and got bronze on my third or fourth attempt (actually the first time i made it around without a DQ, taking it fairly slow).

I haven't yet had the urge to try for golds.

Anyone slighly irritated when he got a second X1 at level 35?

 

[MichaelJP]

On a philosophical note, I'm sure people mean to offer encouragement by saying to gold the Vettel challenge you just need to practice more, but there are limits to that. It doesn't matter how much I practice tennis, I'm never going to beat Roger Federer. Everyone has a limit in any physical challenge and that includes videogames like GT5.

I also think people can be good at other aspects of GT5 but not at the Vettel challenge - the X1 requires very high "twitch" reaction speed and hand eye co-ordination. Other skills like drifting and balancing a slower car need imagination and a sense of what the car is doing with traction and mass transfer. (e.g. the current GT Academy challenge)

Having said that, most people who are good with the X1 are good with the slower cars as well:-)

 

[Tidgney]

On a philosophical note, I'm sure people mean to offer encouragement by saying to gold the Vettel challenge you just need to practice more, but there are limits to that. It doesn't matter how much I practice tennis, I'm never going to beat Roger Federer. Everyone has a limit in any physical challenge and that includes videogames like GT5.

I also think people can be good at other aspects of GT5 but not at the Vettel challenge - the X1 requires very high "twitch" reaction speed and hand eye co-ordination. Other skills like drifting and balancing a slower car need imagination and a sense of what the car is doing with traction and mass transfer. (e.g. the current GT Academy challenge)

Having said that, most people who are good with the X1 are good with the slower cars as well:-)

But isn't that the point of gold times? That they either are achievable to those who try to adapt and practice, and not achievable to those who can't get to that limit. (Please don't call me an elitist as I offer lessons make tutorials and all sorts for everything including the x1 challenge, and have helped people improve(Which an elitist wouldn't do)) That's why the prizes are pretty similar, you get an x1 for bronze, then silver then gold. There just slightly different to show the different levels people have accomplished (And yes I know duping ruined this but its still a challenge which most people love doing, heck I can get a 2:07.9 on a wheel in this challenge, and golded it pre-patch on a ds3).

Aslongs you get at least 1 which is why bronze got annihilated (I know b-spec but they made it so those not doing B can still get 1 in A) you should be happy and know where your limit is.

 

[MichaelJP]

Tidgney, I think your tutorials are a great service to the community - though I still can't keep in touch with your ghost on GT Academy:-) (pad user also)

BTW I should say that even though I think that some people will never achieve gold no matter how much they practice (including me), I'm quite happy with that and don't want the gold target time changed.

 

[katsu]

what a stupid thread, all i have to say!

 

[gakujin]

I used a wheel so was not a problem for me, but to give you some balance i can tell honestly that Alfa Competizione C 8 Eiger Challenge was hardest in GT5 for me, maybe other players didn't have so much problems with that track and car but i spend there 5 hours straight driving and changing setups, brake's ABS, TC. Trying and trying. Entire Vettel Challenge was easier and i did it quicker that this one Track. I'm not the stig, just average player and i have upsides and downsides tracks that suits my better that others. So what i wrote earlier was true! After beating Platinum trophy i did try to improve my lap times and it was fun.

Vettel needs wheel and practice nothing more. I could easy replace entire Vettel Challenge with Alfa Competizione C8 Eiger track and then i would say OMG !!!! This is impossible and hard beyond believe but i spend there 5 hours and i beat it so finally wasn't that difficult.

There is and was so many Vettel threads over last months and i know it must be difficult but seriously! It's just wipeout on wheels So grab your energy drink and try harder!

First of all, I apologize for the remark. I honestly thought you were talking about the vettel challenge on a ds3 controller like most of us at this thread here. I must tell you guys that "get a wheel" isn't an option for me, due to them being too expensive for my current budget, so it's either controller or nothing. I must say, I've been at it for about 80 hours (this is between Monza and Nurburgring) using the default controller settings. And while I know it's possible to gold both of them I've only been able to gold Monza. But Nurburgring is another story. Sure, I've gotten first laps of 1:03.9 and second laps of 1:04.1 on a bad lap. But honestly I just can't do two good laps back to back >.>. Some might say. My current best @ Nurburgring is 2:08.922. Which is almost a second off, but I had a horrible second lap on said time >.>.

@Tigney as I stated above. I'm trying to gold this using the x as throttle, [] as brake, L2/R2 as shifters and left analog stick to steer. As you've said: using the default settings is hard because of the natural lag between brakes and throttle. But I just can't get used to the controller in any other way. So I just keep trying, and I'm not that off @ Nuburgring, but since there is that lag time, you need two perfect laps to make up for it. This fact is the only thing keeping me from golding nurburgring: the need to do TWO perfect laps instead of 1 >.>

 

[skylinefx]

If they increase gold times, the exp and money earned should be cut atleast in half.

For me, the challenge is perfect now. Bronze time is extremely easy, and it doesn't give much xp or money. Silver and gold is harder, but the reward is greater.

 

[Dennisch]

Well, for me to gold Suzuka, I need a couple of cans of Red Bull, or coffee, because if your concentration isn't over 100% (at least 120%) you can forget it!

 

[PAWEL17]

This is mainly for the DS3 users, but the fact is, this challenge is extremely hard and frustrating for most ds3 users. Reality is, people finish everything with gold in the game except this. So how are they meant to get their platinum trophy? Yes, people can do it, but the fact is most cant. I know for sure i would get it eventually (im not fully grinding it until i've finished everything else). But speaking on behalf of not just DS3 users, but legit people like me; we just spent months grinding the exp for lvl 40, the experiencde gets upped. Then the SS7 glitch comes out and doesnt get fixed. So i think we deserve a break. IMO i suggest the silver time should be gold, at least its decently reachable, whereas gold for a DS3 user is just frustrating (monza will be easier).

And you Wheel users, don't post here complaining that it's easy or tell us to get a wheel, some of us aren't goping to spend hundreds of dollars just to do a couple of races .

Nah, lets not, speaking as someone who did it legit, i don't feel like giving you a break, i think the X1 should be hard to get(its a crazy car), and if you can't drive it to the limit, then you don't deserve to drive it.

 

[PAWEL17]

Well, for me to gold Suzuka, I need a couple of cans of Red Bull, or coffee, because if your concentration isn't over 100% (at least 120%) you can forget it!

Correct, and yes, that is what it takes, how do i know, because that is how i did it. Concentration(as in noise canceling headphones), 2 redbull cans over 3 hour non-stop period of trying it over again and again and again, without stopping.

 

[Dennisch]

Correct, and yes, that is what it takes, how do i know, because that is how i did it. Concentration(as in noise canceling headphones), 2 redbull cans over 3 hour non-stop period of trying it over again and again and again, without stopping.

I'm planning on trying it coming sunday, buy myself a sixpack of red bull, chuck 2 of them right before the start, and the other 4 will follow soon after that!

I am already close to gold, need a half a second a lap, Just watch some video's and I know where the time is for me.

My DFGT will bring me my Gold. If not, I'll sell my PS3 for failing.
I golded all the other Gt's, so golding Gt5 is a absolute must for me.

Gt'ing since 1998.