Clueless, over The Hill Outlaws - OP Updated 06/10/14

Discussion in 'GT6 Tuning' started by CyKosis1973, Dec 6, 2013.

  1. Onboy123

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    Funnily enough, I have had a go at one. :lol: I can tell you it's going to be like my pink Chaser. That is to say "brilliant on paper, subpar in practice". Think "550PP but runs 450PP times". :lol:
     
  2. NEWDRIVER2

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    Clueless over The Hill Outlaws
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    SPARKY ll
    Tommy Kaira ZZll'00
    500PP , 550PP and 600PP
    The ZZll was called a Pure Racing Sports Car

    The car drive very well as I won most of the races in offline mode by it , hope to see you also enjoy drive it . Online the car prove that she can take down any car and i was surprise by that and also the other racers , Now it will be more of this version on the road when you join any room as i notice before No one using it to race by it in online mode . Just drive fast as you can in strait road but when you come to corner be safe and slow down :sly: and go fast in corner out . This tune made and test on NURB but you can use it on any other track :tup: Now lets cook the car .

    NOTE :
    Transmission was made stock but i will work on it again but for now its good even its stock .

    Tommy Kaira ZZll'00 /500PP Sports Hard
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    Lap Time. 7:30.768
    Sports hard tires. OFFLINE AND ONLINE
    Tuned to enjoy the time Driving it and to have some FUN on NURB RING
    NO OIL CHANGE
    Date Acquired : 06/01/2014
    Wheel : Standard size Rims ( RAYS 57Ultim...)
    Paint : GT JAPANESE 010-W
    Distance Driven : 868.6
    Displacement: ------- CC
    Performance points = 500PP
    Max. Power = 308 BHP / 4,500 rpm
    Max. Torque = 49.9 kgfm / 4,500 rpm
    Drivetrain = 4WD/T
    Weight = 1000kg
    Weight dis =50:50
    Power/weight =3,24 kg/BHP
    Power Limiter = 57.0 %

    ABS= 1
    Everything else = off
    Tuned with wheel G27Online room settings
    Tyre/FuelNormal
    Grip. Real
    Slipstream Real
    Surface water at race (0)%

    Parts :
    Suspension Height-Adjustable , Fully-customization
    Standard brakes Kit
    Transmission Fully customizable
    LSD kit
    Triple plate clutch Kit
    Propeller Shaft standard
    Centre Differential

    Tires :
    Standard Size Rims
    Sports hard tires

    Suspension :
    Height= 90/ 90
    Springs= 6.26 / 7.53
    Dampers(c)= 6/5
    Dampers(e)= 5/5
    Anti roll bars= 3/3
    Camber= F 0.6/R 0.7
    Toe angle= -0.18 / 0.18
    Brakes= 5 / 5

    LSD :
    10 Initial Torque 12
    08 Acceleration 10
    12 Braking 15

    Centre Differential 40/60
    DownForce F 120. R 200.
    setup the transmission after you buy all the parts .

    Transmission:
    Default final gear 4.176
    Max. Speed 217 mph
    Final gear 5.500
    Gears:
    1st = 3.131
    2nd = 2.060
    3rd = 1.483
    4th = 1.121
    5th = 0.891
    6th. = 0.730
    Final gear again to. 5.490
    It will give 165MPH without Draft
    I know the transmission is Default but try it first .

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    Tommy Kaira ZZll'00 /550PP Sports Medium
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    Lap Time. 7:10.231
    Sports Medium tires. OFFLINE AND ONLINE
    Tuned to enjoy the time Driving it and to have some FUN on NURB RING
    NO OIL CHANGE
    Date Acquired : 06/01/2014
    Wheel : Standard Size Rims ( RAYS 57Ultim...)
    Paint : GT JAPANESE 010-W
    Distance Driven : 868.6
    Displacement: ------- CC
    Performance points = 550PP
    Max. Power = 455 BHP / 6,400 rpm
    Max. Torque = 54.6 kgfm / 6.000 rpm
    Drivetrain = 4WD/T
    Weight = 1000kg
    Weight dis =50:50
    Power/weight = 2.19 kg/BHP
    Power Limiter = 84.0


    ABS= 1
    Everything else = off
    Tuned with wheel G27Online room settings
    Tyre/FuelNormal
    Grip. Real
    Slipstream Real
    Surface water at race (0)%
    Parts :
    Suspension Height-Adjustable , Fully-customization
    Standard brakes Kit
    Transmission Fully customizable
    LSD kit
    Triple plate clutch Kit
    Propeller Shaft standard
    Centre Differential


    Tires :
    Standard Size Rims
    Sports Medium tires

    Suspension :
    Height= 90/ 90
    Springs= 6.26 / 7.53
    Dampers(c)= 6/5
    Dampers(e)= 5/5
    Anti roll bars= 3/3
    Camber= F 0.6/R 0.7
    Toe angle= -0.18 / 0.18
    Brakes= 5 / 5

    LSD :
    10 Initial Torque 12
    08 Acceleration 10
    12 Braking 15



    Centre Differential 40/60
    DownForce F 120. R 200.
    setup the transmission after you buy all the parts .

    Transmission:
    Default Final gear 4.176
    Max. Speed 217 mph
    Gears:
    1st = 3.131
    2nd = 2.060
    3rd = 1.483
    4th = 1.121
    5th = 0.891
    6th. = 0.730
    Final gear again to. 4.700
    It will give 190 MPH without Draft
    I know the transmission is Default but try it first .



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    Tommy Kaira ZZll'00 /600PP Sports Soft
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    Lap Time. 6:42.226
    Sport Soft tires. OFFLINE AND ONLINE
    Tuned to enjoy the time Driving it and to have some FUN on NURB RING
    NO OIL CHANGE
    Date Acquired : 06/01/2014
    Wheel : Standard Size Rims ( RAYS 57Ultim...)
    Paint : GT JAPANESE 010-W
    Distance Driven : 868.6
    Displacement: ------- CC
    Performance points = 600PP
    Max. Power = 623 BHP / 7.100 rpm
    Max. Torque = 65.2 kgfm / 7.100 rpm
    Drivetrain = 4WD/T
    Weight = 920 kg
    Weight dis =50:50
    Power/weight = 1.47 kg/BHP
    Power Limiter = 89.4

    ABS= 1
    Everything else = off
    Tuned with wheel G27Online room settings
    Tyre/FuelNormal
    Grip. Real
    Slipstream Real
    Surface water at race (0)%


    Parts :
    Suspension Height-Adjustable , Fully-customization
    Standard brakes Kit
    Transmission Fully customizable
    LSD kit
    Triple plate clutch Kit
    Propeller Shaft standard
    Centre Differential
    High RPM Range Turbo Kit
    Weight Reduction Stage 3
    Window Weight Reduction


    Tires :
    Standard Size Rims
    Sports Soft tires

    Suspension :
    Height= 90/ 90
    Springs= 6.26 / 7.53
    Dampers(c)= 6/5
    Dampers(e)= 5/5
    Anti roll bars= 3/3
    Camber= F 0.6/R 0.7
    Toe angle= -0.18 / 0.18
    Brakes= 5 / 5

    LSD :
    10 Initial Torque 12
    08 Acceleration 10
    12 Braking 15


    Centre Differential 40/60
    DownForce F 120. R 200.
    setup the transmission after you buy all the parts .

    Transmission:
    Default Final gear 4.176
    Max. Speed 217 mph
    Gears:
    1st = 3.131
    2nd = 2.060
    3rd = 1.483
    4th = 1.121
    5th = 0.891
    6th. = 0.730
    Final gear again to 4.176
    It will give 217 MPH without Draft
    I know the transmission is Default but try it first .


    Tuned for NURB RING
    This is really fast car and I'm having fun driving it offline and online
    As always Corner Survive (Slow in / Fast out) :tup:


    HOPE TO SEE SOME COMMENT ON IT PLEASE TO HELP ME MAKE IT BETTER THANKS :tup:


    ND
     
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  3. danbojte

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    Hi Sam! Will you go to the wheels section and check what kind of rims is checked as being installed, please? :sly:
     
  4. NEWDRIVER2

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    I know my friend its installed but i forget to write it down and now I'm at work so later i will updat it , for now use inch1 until i found out tonight which one , sorry for that . :( I use this Rims ( RAYS 57Ultim...) but which inch !!!?
     
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  5. Niku Driver HC

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    Sorry for asking, but why aren't any reviews about our new cars coming along? :confused: Did we scare all the test drivers away? :dopey: Don't worry, the cars don't bite... :sly:
     
  6. NEWDRIVER2

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    ZZll using Standard Size Rims Rays 57Ultim... :tup:
     
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  7. Ronald6

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    NewDriver2's ZZ-S '00
    "Sparky"

    All specs equal to posted tune, no problems recreating the tune.

    Trial Mtn: 1:38.681
    A lot of time left, which is disheartening for my Legacy tune which got a best of 1:38.5??.
    Incredibly stable. I have to be careful when I gain air, but besides that it's hard to disturb the cars balance. Even the elevation changing long chicane section at the front of the track didn't present a problem.
    The cars over/under steer balance is easy to work with. Correcting a bad line is easy and doesn't disturb the car.

    Autumn Ring: 1:27.215
    Easy, enjoyable.
    The stability helps on the tight corners and chicanes. Staying on line is easy. Finding the fastest line is harder.

    Cape Ring: 2:59.806
    Again: stability.
    Once the car settles into a consistent corner under throttle it will accept a lot of steering input. Understanding this is crucial to driving this car effectively.
    Trail braking is possible, even useful if used subtly.
    Accuracy is high as long as I don't enter with too much understeer induced by too much trail braking.
    Taking a late apex line is much easier than any other car I've tried. Exiting with throttle as the rear pushes the front out with under steer and clipping the late apex is great fun.
    All four tyres heated up, with the fronts noticeably warmer/oranger.

    Nordy:
    Had a problem reaching the top speed posted with the tune. ND said he reached around 166mph or so, I only reached 150mph. ND corrected his tune and I changed the gearing to match. I won't redo the previous track times, the change isn't that big.
    I also painted the car and added custom (standard sized) painted rims.
    After some more laps on Nordy I also had some questions for ND about his braking, till I realized my brakes were staying on at 5%. That will hurt the performance of a car. I took my pedal complex apart and cleaned it, stretched the springs out and repositioned the cord. All fixed.
    I had a hard time getting a clean flying hot lap. The varying nature of the multitude of corners on Nordy make the under steer harder to compensate for than on the other test tracks. If your style of driving fits an under steering car then this is the tune for you. For myself, I couldn't keep up with it consistently. Either I pushed too hard and ruined my time (aka Crash!) or I didn't push hard enough and got a horrible time that I'm too ashamed to post.

    After talking with NewDriver2 I tried 2 more camber settings.
    Camber @ 0.0 / 0.1, 7:47.485.
    Camber @ 0.6 / 0.7, 7:51.534.

    If you want to dominate online buy this car and learn to drive it better than I did. It will reward you.
     
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  8. ObscureSerenity

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    I used that tune to get the suspension sitting nicer... its a 6 speed so tried to extend the gearing in a similar way... I think if you can get the first gear to not just be a way to quickly remove tyres then it might be ok round the 1-2nd gear corners.
    I put a wing and about 140kg into the back end to get a 56/44 weight distrib... did help but yoi still have to drive it like its a yank tank.
     
  9. Onboy123

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    I did just that as well last night, DaDog saw some of my attempts at getting it around the 'Ring, he'll tell you how ridiculous it seemed. :lol: I think it's probably more competitive in 550PP when using 537PP, less power to corrupt the already pretty rubbish handling. I'll try and get this battleship to drive decent, but don't expect too much.
     
  10. NEWDRIVER2

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    Thank you Ron for the time reviewing my cars thats nice from you :tup: and good to know that you enjoy my cars . Thank you again .

    ND
     
  11. krenkme

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    Sorry for my late reply. Thanks for running the cars, and glad you liked them (not sure why the PP does not match up though :confused: ) I hope you'll continue to enjoy our tunes :dopey:


    :lol: Yes, I just haven't had the time yet. Sorry :(

    Fixed the sports comp.... will work on that gearbox :tup:


    Did I miss anyone? :dopey:... updated my
     
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  12. demonchilde

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    Yeah take your time man, we are all busy busy busy, lol.
    The update changed minor things, or so I thought. I'm finding more and more things don't match up that we're pre-update, and having to go back and figure them out. That, plus the FITT challenge, and the 8 cars deep I am onto catching up with my intended tuning, and the negative bank roll I have to fund that, keep me very busy in game.

    Outside of game, I work 40+ hours a week, have 2 kids, a wife, and snow on the ground constantly, lol. I have 3 cats, 2 dogs, a lizard, and 4 snakes to tKe care of as well. Trying to find "me time" can get a bit hard at times, lol.
    Good luck man, if you need help with anything, let me know^^
     
  13. SudSprint79

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    Hi Niku
    Loving driving her, & i don't know why you call her "Dangerous", she's a pussycat... long as you remember pussycats sometimes like to go for your eyes with their claws!
    Reminds me of the 4WD Mazda Demio from (i think) GT1 & 2; it was some kind of imaginary special edition, would take a Stage 3 Turbo! Gave it stupid power, for a roller skate, but no torque at all, and this is the same so you need to use your nitrous to get up to speed if you get stopped for whatever reason or the race will be over. i loved that Demio and i love this for the same reason - the way it holds the track!!
    She's pretty much glued to the surface round most bends, and the twisty stuff is where this car wins.
    In races where there are lots of bends & corners you can utterly humiliate Boss 'Stangs, Evos and any JDM tuner special you care to name, but beware 'cause on a long straight they will take a terrible revenge!
    i made maybe 8 attempts at International B Midnight Racers Nurburgring and it went the same way every single time: i'd hit the last straight with a solid lead full power on and a quarter tank of nitro but somewhere near the end of said straight i'd be viciously :censored:-ed from behind, spend a while recovering my underwear and finish 3rd if i was lucky. On a long straightaway you're going to get caught even with nitrous, and then you will DIE, 'cause those other cars are travelling so much faster than you that if they hit you they're going to hit you HARD! She's so light you'll go a long, long way before you can regain control, and if your trajectory is towards a wall... R.I.P!
    My little "K" has been rammed from behind so often she thinks she's working in... ahhh, lets be polite... Adult Entertainment!
    So you have to pick your circuit to suit the car(lots of curves/bends and short to mid-length straights, i've found), is really the point, and offline that's kind of the only problem with this build; most races that suit the car/tyres are just too easy. Online i've no way to judge; don't yet have enough confidence in my ability to race clean online, to try her out so that's for someone else to test.
    There's one series where this machine shines, and that's National A Gornergrat League, hard enough to be a challenge but winnable & against serious opposition. Try it, really!

    To sum up, then; little car, BIG fun!!:tup:

    Just one thing... that colour scheme... those rims... you're off your meds again aren't you!
    (Can the rest of you blokes at COTHO make sure Niku stays away from sharp objects, and paint chips -for everyone's safety!:scared:)

    Sorry i took so long to post this, seeing as i've had her since day 1, but i got distracted creating my own first full tune, a 450pp Lancia Stratos; my best on Stowe is 1:00.536 on comfort softs with TCS at 2 and ABS 1,everything else off, so i'm not un-happy with it, as a first try, but ... it could be lots better:confused:. 2nd attempt already underway! As before i'll be using Motor City Hami's & Praiano's tuning guides, anything i got right is thanks to them, and to studying the tunes i've got from here. You want to understand GT6 tuning, that's where you start - simple as that.

    Whoops!
    Sorry 'bout the waffle; i hope i was somewhat constructive, but it kinda-sorta got away from me - i'll try harder to stay on topic in future(but no promises:p)
     
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  14. Niku Driver HC

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    First of all things, thank you very much, Sud, the fact you loved the hell out of a car that can blind you for eternity is quite the thing that makes a tuner proud of his (twisted) work. :cheers: :crazy:

    I guess it is hard to keep your chain of thought linked properly when you were having so much fun. If I can ask a question, how did the transmission work for you? The tranny for this car was my first attempt of a fully custom transmission, so I'm kinda curious to see if it is any good.

    As for the paint scheme, I regret nothing! :dopey: Ok, I kid, I guess I just wanted to show those haters who call this ugly what a real "ugly Alto" is... :sly: That's the main reason why I called it "Dangerous", to clarify your doubts. :)

    Again, thanks for the feedback, much appreciated. :):tup:
     
  15. SudSprint79

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    Not a problem, i had a great time testing her not to mention that doing so while racing career mode on so many different races made me a virtual ton of funny money... and i'm not sure she didn't like it a little rough!
    To give you an idea of how much fun i was having she's on 353 miles and is about to cost me Cr.5500 to restore rigidity!
    As for the tranny i tend to run an auto 'box so i'd only notice if it was outstandingly horrible, and it wasn't. In fact i did the three Gornergrat races again just after posting and it was able to handle the uphill as well as the downhill parts which indicates to me a well balanced 'box considering its natural lack of torque; of course the nitrous helped a lot, but the fact is it beat fully tuned WRC cars albeit they were AI drivers; don't think i can say fairer than that - a nice quick fun car, & a winner in spite of not being blindingly fast.
    It's not much but hope that helps.
    & speaking of blindingly... mines GT chrome 009-n, slightly darker than 001 but still silver-ey; did the wheels in GT chrome 003-w just to go with the spirit of the original!

    & don't call my baby ugly dammit:grumpy::)!!
     
  16. ACSR421

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    Clueless over The Hill Outlaws
    "Chevy Camaro Z28 '69 500pp SH"

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    Source and Parts list:
    Buy from: Chevrolet(change oil)
    Paintjob: Hugger Orange
    Wheels: aftermarket
    rear wing: custom type a
    Downforce: 20
    Weight Reduction: stage 3
    Window Weight Reduction: yes
    Carbon Hood: yes
    Chassis reinforcement: no
    Turbo: no
    Sports cpu: yes
    Engine Tuning: no
    Intake tuning: no
    Exhaust Manifold: yes
    Catalytic Converter: no
    Exhaust: Race
    Transmission: FC
    Clutch/flywheel: Triple Plate Clutch
    Carbon Drive Shaft: yes
    LSD: yes
    torque assist center differential: na
    Suspension: FC
    Tires: SH
    Suspension
    Ride height front 110, rear 110
    Spring rate front 8.22, rear 5.28
    Dampers (Compression) front 4 rear 6
    Dampers (Extension) front 6 rear 5
    Anti-roll bars front 4 rear 4
    Camber angle front 0.0 rear 0.0
    Toe angle front 0.00 rear .12
    Brakes: stock fr 3 rr 2
    LSD
    rear = initial 8, acceleration 10, braking 14
    Transmission
    set max speed to 112 mph
    1st: 4.020, 2nd: 2.775, 3rd: 2.128, 4th: 1.698, 5th: 1.384
    final: 2.850

    The Tune
    Ballast weight : 15/49
    Power Limiter : 100%
    Transmission: Manual
    ABS: 1
    Everything else: OFF
    The car has 500 PP, weighs 1174Kg with a 54/46 front/rear weight
    distribution, has a power to weight ratio of 3.14 kg/hp, has 373 HP
    @6500 rpm and produces 346 ft-lb torque @4500 rpm
    Notes:

    Tuned for FITT shootout at Laguna Seca

    ENJOY, AC
     
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  17. krenkme

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    Coming Soon to CoTHO
    four 500pp Classic Muscle Cars
    an old Race car
    and
    Lady Bug
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  18. XDesperado67

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    Jose's Hauler
    Chevrolet El Camino SS 396 '67
    F.I.T.T. announced their first GT6 event and Ol'Harvey Wallbanger was eager to get into the action. Unfortunately while classic American cars are some of the Wallbanger's favorites, getting most of them to produce credible times at Laguna Seca using Sport Hard tires was similar to trying to teach a Hippopotamus Ballet.:drool:
    Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca.jpg
    Despite a number of difficulties both on and off track Ol'Harvey soldiered on and finally produced "Jose's Hauler". His only comment when asked about the name was to say he needed to do some serious drinking after that and this was just about big enough to carry the needed amount of liquer.:crazy:
    Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca (1).jpg
    While the Wallbanger takes full credit for the suspension and LSD on this El Camino, the transmission is a Lenco 5 speed ST1200 mated to a strengthened 12 bolt rear end running the original factory spec gear ratio.
    Anyways go ahead and join Ol'Harvey with a Cuervo Gold, then hit the road with "Jose's Hauler".

    Parts List
    NO OIL CHANGE!
    Tires
    Sport Hard
    Suspension
    Height-Adjustable, Fully Customizable Suspension
    Racing Brakes
    Transmission
    Fully Customizable Dog-Clutch Transmission
    Drivetrain
    Fully Customizable Mechanical Limited Slip Differential (FCMLSD)
    Triple-Plate Clutch Kit
    Carbon Drive Shaft
    Power
    Sports Computer
    Racing Exhaust
    Catalytic Converter: Sports
    Intake Tuning
    Body
    Weight Reduction; Stage 3
    Carbon Hood (Body Color)
    Window Weight Reduction
    Other
    Paint: GT6 Chrome 013
    Aero Kits; Type B
    Other; Part C
    Wheels; +2 inch size American Racing Vintage Torque Thrust (painted GT6 Chrome 015)

    Settings
    Suspension
    Ride Height 95/100
    Spring Rate 14.50/11.00
    Compression 9/9
    Extension 3/1
    Anti-Roll Bars 7/7
    Camber 0.0/0.0
    Toe Angle +0.06/+0.12
    Brake Balance 3/4
    Transmission
    Max Speed (Auto Set) 155mph
    1st=3.250
    2nd=2.260
    3rd=1.640
    4th=1.250
    5th=1.100
    Final=3.080
    Drivetrain
    FCMLSD:
    -Initial 16
    -Acceleration 12
    -Braking 12
    Power
    Power Limiter 99.1%
    Body
    Ballast 20kg at +50

    The car is 500PP
    Max Power 421HP
    Max Torque 470ft-lb
    Weight 1223kg with 53/47 distribution

    Note: Throttle Control! Stay off the dirt. Throttle Control! Watch out for kerbs/track edge. Throttle Control! Try not to overheat the rear tires to fast, once they get dark yellow it will be much harder to keep the rear in check. Oh and did I mention Throttle Control? Sorry folks but you just can't slam the loud pedal to the floor on these tires without cooking them. This isn't just about exiting slow corners either, there are several places on Laguna Seca that will cause the rear end to break free under full throttle because of the odd track slope and bumps. A careful management of the throttle will keep you pointed in the right direction, while just mashing the gas will see you in the sand if your lucky or a wall if your not.

    And remember, as Ol'Harvey Wallbanger always says...
    Drive Hard and have FUN!:cheers::gtpflag:
     
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  19. Woodski_427

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    Last week I had some runs on the Nordschleife (edit:) and some other tracks in a couple of cars :

    @NEWDRIVER2 Toyota 2000GT '67 "Golden Bullet".

    This is quick. Relentless acceleration and a surprising top speed - I reached 172mph under the bridge on Dottinger Hohe. Offline I found a bit of understeer in slower/mid corners but sometimes I think I was arriving faster than I'm used to and braked too late. Like @Ronald6 found, though, it just carves through the high speed corners, even if it did feel a little floaty at times.

    One of my fastest 450pp/SH laps on TM
    Toyota2000_ND_TrialMountain_4-sm.jpg

    As usual, slow-in, fast-out is the name of the game and getting the right line and acceleration point will see you rocket of the corner. Some care is required though as the rear can get loose. Offline, I was heading for around 8:04/8:05 without the inevitable "hit big curb-spin-swear" scenerio. I could see me getting 8:00 with this car after a bit of practice.

    Online was a different story, however. The standing start saw me snaking off the line (well done to PD for improved realism) and the reduced grip had me running wide a few times. This car is very unforgiving if you stray onto a curb or a bit of grass and will think of nothing of spitting you backwards out of the corner into the Armco if you do so. Braking at the end of Dottinger is a bit of a terryfing experience and should be done in early and in stages as the car got very unstable.:nervous:

    Stay away from the curbs, they said...early testing didn't go well.
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    Overall though a fast and nicely balanced 450pp tune for a beautiful classic, but needs care online to keep it on the straight and narrow. What's more PD have given it the Premium treatment, so go and get one. NOW!

    Nice drive in the Mountains, but no time for sightseeing...keep your eye on the next apex
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    @XDesperado67 Audi TTS Coupe '09 "Sigrun"

    Yes, a nice stable 4wd option for clumsy oafs :lol:. As much as I love the 2000GT my hopeless online performance led me to look for a safer drive. Haven't tried it offline yet, but ran a few online races and found it to be fast and stable. There is a bit of the usual 4wd understeer but I removed the rear brake bias as I found it upset the corner entry - I really don't get on with rear bias in most cars.

    (At) Home on the range 'Ring
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    Excellent grip as expected for those aggressive corner exits just make sure you've got your line first. One of it's biggest strengths is the standing start though: no wheelspin, doesn't bog down it simlpy launches off the line like the proverbial whippet. So much so I was braking to avoid the car in front as they'd barely moved: especially take care if you start behind a front wheel drive :dopey:.

    I also didn't apply the aero; I was wondering if this made much difference Desp? Does it not create drag at high speed?


    @ACSR421 Abarth 500 '09

    Loved it. I actually achieved an online victory (in around 8:15) - long after you guys had left The Hill. Everything you'd expect from a sweet front wheel drive setup: good traction and stability, minimal understeer and accelerates better than you'd expect, up to the 150mph region. You need to adopt the FWD driving style of course, slightly earlier braking to avoid cooking the front tyres and losing exit grip.

    Hard on the brakes...but steady as a rock
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    I was using the setup from December, so I need to apply the January revision and compare.

    I also have the Abarth tune from @CyKosis1973 on the same car. I did a quick offline run - I felt this was a more aggressive but less forgiving setup. Possibly a bit quicker than ACSR's if you have a clean run, perhaps not as easy for the fat thumbed in an online race :dopey:. Hopefully I'll find out soon.


    Next, I will be trying the Alto from @Niku Driver HC - this is definitely my kind of car.:cheers:
     
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  20. danbojte

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    updated 1/26/14 :p
     
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    @Woodski_427 the wing is primarly there to add a bit more stability when braking from high speeds. With the 450PP version I've ran the car both with and without the wing and there is little noticible differance in the times I get around the ring. Without the wing you may pick up a couple mph top speed but you'll need to watch your braking a bit more as the rear will get loose easier. On the 500PP version the stabilizing effect is much more apparent since the extra power means the car is much quicker in all sections.

    Much like the brake bias though, how much downforce you run or losing the wing entirely is more about personal preference and driving style. If you get on well with a fairly loose rear end then running no aero or minimum values will be fine. If you prefer a more stable drive then the extra downforce is useful.:tup::tup:

    In any event I'm glad to hear that the basic tune worked well for you. As always I encourage people to tweak my settings to best suit their own needs/style.:cheers:
     
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    I'll be pulling that Abarth apart and putting it back together again, so I'd hold fire on any serious testing for now, fella. Thank you for giving it a run as is :tup:

    {Cy}
     
  23. NEWDRIVER2

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    Thank you Sir for the run :tup: good to know you enjoy my 2000GT its fast but need a care and drive it more online to know where is the good line and the brake point . After the long stretch you need to brake early and also not to shift down early just apply the brake while you using the 5th gear until you are near the second carve or the second corner then you can drop it to 3rd gear then you will survive :tup: thank you again my friend :tup:

    Like what I always say slow down corner in and go fast corner out

    ND
     
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    Wow, I have some catching up to do... I wasn't getting any notifications from here, I thought it had died! Fortunately I just hadn't been here in a while and it registered that I had already gotten a notification, and just not clicked it.

    Not really one for japanese cars, but you guys make them all look so cool... Especialy the Toyota Golden Bullet and the tommy kaira.

    Definitely doing the Nova and El Camino as well.
     
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    Thank you for your tune because you tune for us ds3 noobs!
    Question tho.. When you say stock, do u mean keep the wheels it came in? Or stock size?
    Thanks again
     
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    @basswerks1 To be honest, it doesn't really matter now because the tire width bug is fixed, so feel free to put any wheel of any type on it, there's not going to be an effect on the car. :tup:
     
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    Thanks for the review @Woodski_427.:tup:

    Try the newest update and let me know if its better. I noticed a change with that car after the 1.03 patch and hopefully I've corrected it now.:cheers:
     
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    Dick Putty
    Based on the Plymouth Superbird '70
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    446bhp
    500pp
    weight 1516 Kg

    parts
    Oil Change
    Paint - Pathfinder Blue Pearlescent
    PDI P525N wheels painted Red
    Sport Hard Tires
    Hight Adjustable/Fully Adjustable Suspension
    Racing Brakes
    Fully Custom Transmission
    Fully Custom Mechanical LSD
    Triple Plate Clutch
    Carbon Shaft
    Stage 3 weight Reduction

    ABS = 1
    everything else off

    Tune
    Ride Hight - Front: 100 Rear: 110
    Spring Rate- Front: 5.00 Rear: 5.00
    Compression- Front: 2 Rear: 1
    Extension- Front: 3 Rear: 2
    Anti-roll Bars- Front: 3 Rear: 1
    Camber- Front: 1.5 Rear: 2.0
    Toe Angle- Front: -0.18 Rear: 0.10
    Brakes- Front: 7 Rear: 4

    Gearing
    Final Gear - 5.000
    Top Speed - 99
    1st - 2.413
    2nd - 1.750
    3rd - 1.400
    4th - 1.200
    5th - 0.997
    Final - 3.000

    LSD - 12/9/15

    Weight Adjustment - 200@ 50

    TUNER NOTES -
    This tune is my FITT Shootout entry. It won't be the fastest, but should be a nice drive :dopey:

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    That'll be made when I get to play :).
     
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    Based on the VW 1200 '66
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    180hp
    439pp
    weight 808Kg

    parts
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    Front aero type B
    Rear wing type A
    Two inch up PDI P525N wheels painted Royal Plum
    Paint car Matte Light Red
    Sport Hard Tires
    Hight Adjustable/Fully Adjustable Suspension
    Fully Custom Transmission
    Fully Custom Mechanical LSD
    Triple Plate Clutch
    Stage 3 engine tuning
    Sport Computer
    Racing Exhaust
    Isometric Exhaust Manifold
    Catalytic Converter: Sports
    Intake Tuning
    High RPM range Turbo Kit
    Stage 3 weight Reduction
    Carbon Hood
    Window Weight Reduction

    ABS = 1
    everything else off

    Tune
    Ride Hight - Front: 90 Rear: 100
    Spring Rate- Front: 2.00 Rear: 2.30
    Compression- Front: 4 Rear: 2
    Extension- Front: 2 Rear: 4
    Anti-roll Bars- Front: 3 Rear: 1
    Camber- Front: 0.7 Rear: 2.0
    Toe Angle- Front: -0.11 Rear: 0.10
    Brakes- Front: 5 Rear: 5

    Gearing
    Top Speed - 149
    1st - 1.800
    2nd - 1.300
    3rd - 0.970
    4th - 0.760
    5th - 0.618
    Final - 4.000

    LSD - 15/18/15

    Downforce - 20

    Weight Adjustment - 114@ -50

    TUNER NOTES -
    I don't know why, but this is one of my favorite tunes to go for a fun drive in. I hope it will be yours too :dopey:

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