Finished Cobra Coupe Shootout - Lex wins 24 Hours of Spa - Pimiki Crowned Triple Champ !!!

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    This Series has now finished - Sign up now for the new series - Novice or experienced all welcome !!!

    https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...ascar-road-starts-5th-july-signup-now.330168/

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    NOTE - Use Tartan Red paint from the Marcos Mini Marcos to get white stripes on the Willment Coupe

    In 1963 an AC Cars Ltd entered AC Cobra Hardtop driven by Peter Bolton and Ninian Sanderson finished an incredible seventh overall and first in class. This was an amazing result given the cars relative lack of straightline speed - it and its sister car (which blew an engine) had been fitted with a swept back hardtop known as a Le Mans hardtop which increased top speed of the 289 Cobra by about 10mph to 163mph - well short of the 180mph of the Ferraris. It was obvious to all that a Cobra fitted with an aerodynamic body would be capable of a better result and so the race began in the USA and UK to build a Cobra Coupe for the 1964 Le Mans race.

    The AC A98 Cobra Coupe designed by Alan Turner became infamous before the race even started - questions were even asked in the British Houses of Parliament when it was discovered that "Gentleman" Jack Sears had been testing the car on public roads at 185mph (the M1 motorway was used because there were no British tracks long enough to mimic the Mulsanne Straight). During the race, at one point the AC Coupe was ahead of all the Shelby Coupes except one, but disaster struck on the 78th lap when a tyre blew and the car collided with and fatally injured three people watching the race from an unauthorised vantage point. The car remained damaged and forgotten under a tarpaulin until it was re-discovered and restored in 1972.

    The Shelby Cobra Coupe was designed by Peter Brock and was a great success winning the 1965 Sports Car championship and was named the Daytona Coupe following its success at the Daytona circuit. The Coupe driven by Dan Gurney and Bob Bondurant was 4th overall and first in class at Le Mans in 1964.

    John Willment a major UK team owner wanted to enter two Cobra Coupes in 1964. Shelby refused to sell him the cars, but Ford persuaded Shelby to release a copy of the plans to Willment who set about building his own, but with a modified body to reduce frontal area. The two cars were not finished in time for the 1964 Le Mans and in fact one was never finished. The other was raced extensively, first in the 1964 South African Springbok Series and later in Europe and went on to secure more victories than any other Cobra Coupe, although these victories were less prestigious in nature than those achieved by the six Shelby Daytona Cobra Coupes.


    This series will be contested over 9 rounds using the Cobra Daytona Coupe painted to resemble the three types of Coupe and will recreate an epic motorsport clash which was scheduled for 1964, but was sadly never fulfilled.

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    Race 2 - Avon Tour 1973 (No pit stop) 15 Minutes
    10 rounds - NB Round 4 is Avon Tour only using Time Trial mode to replicate rally special stages (Nissan Bluebird Rally Car - Tuning Prohibited is used for Round 4 by all drivers). Rounds 1-3 and 5-10 will be contested in 3 cars, tuning unlimited at 504PP maximum, 290bhp maximum, 785kg minimum. Cars will be changed over at rounds 5 and 8.


    Race 1 - Team Trucks (No pit stop) 15 Minutes
    Tuning prohibited on Sports Hard tyres. There will be no car changeover - racers will stick with the same team truck for all 6 rounds.

    Race 3 - Cobra Coupe Shootout (1 compulsory pit stop) 25 Minutes
    Tuning prohibited on Race Hard tyres. There will be no car changeover - racers will stick with the same team car for all 9 rounds.


    Further information on Race 3 - Cobra Coupe Shootout
    This will contain both an individual championship and a team championship. There will be three teams. Sick Cylinder will lead the AC team. Flaco will lead the Willment team. Lex Lathor will lead the Shelby team. Teams will be similar to those used in the previous Trans Am 1 Championship and will be posted shortly before the start of the championship.

    Team points will be scored down to the position of the last team mate present in all teams in that round. For example if 11 people race and two teams have 4 members that week and one team has 3 members that week only the points from the first 3 finishers in each team will accrue points that round - this prevents a team which is short of members from being disadvantaged. If a driver qualifies for a race and either retires or is disconnected he will be deemed to have finished in last place and will therefore score last place points for his team and in the individual championship.

    To add a bit of extra spice each racer will have a team truck painted in the colours of their team (Chevrolet El Camino SS 396 1967 - please pretend that it is a 1964 Ford). The points from the Team Truck races will be added to the total team points. NB purchase of the El Camino's is necessary to obtain the correct paint (Mountain Green)for the AC A98 Cobra Coupe. Purchase of a Marcos Mini Marcos is necessary to obtain the correct paint (Tartan Red) for the Willment Cobra Coupe and Team Truck.

    The team trucks (30,000 credits) must be fitted with a race number (Type A Font A) and age appropriate wheels - no wire wheels or modern looking wheels. The Team Trucks will be raced tuning prohibited and on the standard Sports Hard tyres - it is anticipated that this will produce close racing.

    How to create your Cobra Coupe

    Team Shelby - 1. Purchase a Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe (4.5m) from the Dealership and give it an oil change. If you have an anniversary edition model you can use this for Team Shelby. Do Not paint your Cobra Coupe!
    2. Purchase a Chevrolet El Camino SS 396 1967 in Deepwater Blue (30k) from the Dealership and give it an oil change.

    Team Willment - 1. Purchase a Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe (4.5m) from the Dealership and give it an oil change.
    2. Purchase a Chevrolet El Camino SS 396 1967 (30k) from the Dealership and give it an oil change. Purchase a Marcos Mini Marcos in Tartan Red.

    3. Respray your Cobra Coupe in Tartan Red - it is now a Willment Coupe. Respray your Chevrolet El Camino in Tartan Red - it is now a Willment Team Truck.

    Team AC - 1. Purchase a Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe (4.5m) from the Dealership and give it an oil change.
    2. Purchase a Chevrolet El Camino SS 396 1967 in Mountain Green (30k) from the Dealership and give it an oil change.
    3. Respray your Cobra Coupe in Mountain Green - it is now an AC Coupe.

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    The Avon Tour of Britain was a multi-round championship which took place over four days on rally special stages and short circuits such as Brands Hatch and Oulton Park. Short clips were televised on ITV's World of Sport and it attracted top drivers from both rallying and circuit racing including Roger Clark, Graham Hill, Jody Scheckter, Bernard Unett, Tony Lanfranchi and Gerry Marshall. Not all drivers took the event seriously - one who was sponsored by a well known men's magazine used a glamour model as co-driver on the rally special stages! In 1973 one young man who was taking the event seriously was the winner - James Hunt driving a Chevrolet Camaro.

    The event was initially sponsored by Avon Tyres, then Texaco, then a windscreen company before fading away. One problem was that later events were dominated by rally drivers and circuit racers felt that the rules were unfair - the time for each special stage was totalled and the race time for the circuit events was added. The circuit racers could only gain a few seconds over the rally drivers at the short circuits, as the races were only 15 minutes long, but the rally drivers gained more time on the special stages. It is not practicable for me to score the series on total elapsed time therefore it will be based on finishing position in each race (or time trial).

    Taking inspiration from the 1973 Tour we will try to replicate the feel of the event on a variety of short circuits. Round four will be done in Time Trial Mode on three short rally stages and one short circuit.

    The cars were all road legal, raced on road tyres (there were prizes for competitors using Avon tyres) and the cars were categorized based on purchase price - James Hunt won overall in the top class which was for cars costing over £1,500! As it was a cost based event many Ladas and Moskvich cars competed in the cheapest category. For the sake of simplicity our cars will compete in one class. Tuning is unlimited subject to a power limit of 290bhp, weight limit of 785kg and PP limit of 504. Drivers change cars after every 3 rounds i.e. round 5 and round 8. All drivers complete the Time Trials in round 4 in a tuning prohibited Nissan Bluebird Rally Car.

    Tuning tips - the Mitsubishi Lancer is great on standard suspension settings if you lower them so that there is just 10mm of travel left and set the LSD to 12 / 30 / 15. The Pozzi Camaro and Alpine are good on standard race soft suspension settings. At 785kg the Alpine is 504PP with maximum power.

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    This short clip features the final round at Brands Hatch Indy Circuit in 1973 (known then as the Club Circuit):






    And this great little clip gives a flavour from 1974:

     
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    Championship Points, Teams & Car Selection

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    Track Schedule

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    Correction: PD does not allow 45 Minute races so the Endurance races will be of 50 Minutes duration.

    Correction: Round 4 at Mount Panorama will use Comfort Medium tyres for 16 minutes duration and driving line will be switched off.
     
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    Rules

    Races will be held each Sunday starting at 17:00 GMT. (During the period of British Summer Time - March to October - meetings will be held one hour earlier 16:00 GMT = 17:00 BST).

    The race meeting will last approximately 1.5 - 2 hours. Race 1 for Team Trucks will be 15 minutes. Race 2, Avon Tour of Britain 1973 will be 15 minutes. Race 3, Cobra Daytona Coupewill be 25 minutes. There will be approximately 5 minutes practise and 5 minute qualifying before each race. The grid order will be fastest qualifier first. There will be one race for each championship each Sunday except on rounds 3, 7 and 10 where the Truck race is cancelled and race 2 is a 50 minute endurance event for the Cobra Coupe's. On those rounds Race 1 is 15 minutes for the Avon Tour. Round 4 is Rally Special Stages in Time Trial mode with everyone using the same car - an untuned Nissan Bluebird Rally Car.

    Each race will be on the tyres specified (normally Race Hard or Sports Hard) with no driving aids except optional ABS (which most drivers set to 1) and optional driving line, edge grip will be real and race starts will have false start check. Penalties strong and damage light, slipstream real, no boost.

    Some of us have been racing every Sunday since the beginning of GT5 i.e. several years. All drivers are expected to drive in a considerate, careful and mature manner - this includes always driving in the correct direction and no doughnuts (donuts). All ability levels are welcome, from beginner to advanced.

    Drivers will change their car selection at intervals as specified in the car Choice Table.

    All Drivers are expected to follow the hosts instructions regarding the race meeting at all times.

    The Cars: - No wings or spoilers can be added
    Paint should be in age appropriate colours e.g. solid or metallic only, no chrome or polarized finishes. NB The Cobra Coupes should only be painted as already outlined in the first post of this thread.

    Wheels should be age appropriate e.g. standard, American Racing, Torq Thrust or PDi P525N in standard size - if wheels or colour are inappropriate the host will request that the driver change them before the next round.

    Where possible bumpers should be removed in order to enhance the race look.

    Bonnets if lightened must be in body paint colour

    Any tuning is allowed subject to specified PP, minimum weight and maximum power limits.

    Photographs
    Photographs of the race action are encouraged. Race reports and photographs taken by the official race photographer (IfandOr) will be published in this thread.

    Signups
    Please sign up by sending a message to Sick_Cylinder via your Playstation 3 or via GTPlanet. There will be 16 regular drivers in the championships.

    Absence / Unable to attend races
    If you know that you will be unable to attend certain rounds please inform the Host. It may then be possible for a reserve driver to fill your slot on the grid. If you no longer wish to participate in the championship the first reserve driver will fill your grid slot and will drive the same type of car.

    Reserve Drivers
    If the grid is full you can sign up to be a reserve driver. You will be able to race when a regular driver is absent and the grid therefore has a vacant slot. If a regular driver leaves the championship you will be offered that drivers slot and will become a regular driver using the same type of car as the original regular driver was using (or was scheduled to use).

    If a driver is absent for three consecutive rounds he will be deemed to have become a reserve driver.

    Questions
    If you have questions regarding the races or comments about quality of driving or other problems etc, please raise these with the Host Sick_Cylinder via your Playstation 3 or via the conversation facility on GTPlanet.

    It is best to reserve postings on this thread for race photos, race reports, links to good tunes or other helpful tips on cars in the car list.

    Room Etiquette / Voice chat - this section only applies when voice is enabled (Currently we are running with voice disabled as this appears to reduce disconnections by allowing more bandwidth for racing).


    If drivers speak to each other they should use the PSN name even if they know the drivers real name. All conversations should be in English. Please refrain from talking during races or qualifying as some drivers may find it distracting.

    Voice chat will be enabled during races. The purpose of the voice chat is to enable the leaders to indicate when they are approaching and about to lap another driver. The horn can also be used by the lead driver when about to lap another driver. No offence should be taken by the use of the horn - in this case it is purely a warning signal. To avoid confusion the horn should not be used at any other time including while stationary on the grid. Some drivers do not have microphones or their spoken English may not be good - this does not matter and they will not be discriminated against - they can use the horn to warn the driver in front that they are about to lap. Use of the horn for any purpose other than that outlined will result in a warning and or penalty.

    Voice chat will also enable a driver to indicate if he intends to carry out a pitstop. The procedure will be that at the start of the lap on which he intends to pit, the driver will say his name and that he is pitting at the end of this lap. He will also say that he is about to pit when approaching the pit lane. The driver will also announce when he has left the pits and rejoined the track - while doing so he will endeavour to stay inside the white lines when rejoining.

    For example in my case on crossing the start line I would say "Sick pitting on lap ten". On approaching the pits I would say "Sick entering Pits". On rejoining the race I would say "Sick rejoining race". If a driver is about to be lapped, he should hold a steady course and if possible momentarily lift off the throttle so that the faster driver can pass.

    Race Room Settings
    Start type = Grid start with false start check (this means hold car still with brake until start)
    Grid order = Fastest First (this means start in order of practise lap time)
    Boost = off
    Penalty = Strong (this means avoid crashing or short cutting the track)
    Tyre / Fuel depletion = fast (this means try to avoid drifting round corners)
    Grip reduction on track edge = real
    Minimum number of pit stops = as specified
    Require tyre type change = off (this means you can stick with one grade of tyre)
    Race finish delay = 180 seconds (there will be a wide range of abilities of driver)
    Visible damage = off (this prevents spoiling the look of photos)
    Mechanical damage = Light (if you have a crash the damage will repair itself)
    Slipstream strength = Real
    Tyre = As specified
    Nitrous = Prohibited
    Vehicle Tuning = No Limit (but check BHP and weight limits and PP limits)
    Skid recovery force = prohibited
    Active steering = prohibited
    Active stability management = prohibited
    Driving line = optional
    Traction control = prohibited
    ABS = optional

    PITSTOPS - IMPORTANT INFORMATION
    There will be one compulsory pitstop to change tyres in races exceeding 20 minutes in duration unless stated otherwise.

    If you fail to take a pitstop the game will automatically give you a 50 second penalty.

    You can take your pitstop on any lap apart from the last lap.

    If you take your pitstop on the last lap the host will give you a 30 second penalty (Unfortunately this is necessary due to an error in GT6 which fails to conduct a proper pitstop on the final lap).

    No pit stops will be held if the track does not have pit lane (e.g. London) and tyre wear will be slowed from fast to normal.

    Championship points
    We will use the MotoGP points system as we have in previous championships as this awards points down to 15th place as follows:

    1st = 25
    2nd = 20
    3rd = 16
    4th = 13
    5th = 11
    6th = 10
    7th = 9
    8th = 8
    9th = 7
    10th = 6
    11th = 5
    12th = 4
    13th = 3
    14th = 2
    15th = 1
    16th = 0

    There are three championships running simultaneously, therefore it is possible that one driver could win all three championships. In the event of a points tie the champion will be the driver with the greatest number of 1st place finishes - if this is tied, it will be the driver with the greatest number of second place finishes etc. and so on.

    Bad internet connections / PS3 Problems
    If the Host is disconnected by an internet or PS3 problem, the Deputy Hosts (Lex Lathor and Flaco) will Host the meeting.

    If a driver leaves a race after it has started due to an internet or PS3 problem he or she should send a message to the Host who will award points equivalent to a last place finish in the race.

    If a driver has a bad connection such that his or her car is lagging excessively and unpredictably the Host may ask the driver to leave and re-enter the room.

    To reduce the risk of bad internet connections all drivers should empty their system cache before the race meeting starts.

    Practise - A series of practise races will be held on Round 0 - these are not part of the championship, but are an opportunity to check room settings and test cars. After the championships have been completed another practise / test meeting / Round 0 will be held before the start of the next championship.
     
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    Now this looks good. I never knew AC did a version and never heard of a Willment before?
     
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    I also never heard a Willment before.... Actually, before the Willment, I heard the Shelby and the AC.
     
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    This looks interesting, I like it!
    Quick question, can we race the estates? :p
    Thirdly, I assume this event will take place on Sundays (as 12th July 2015 is my birthday, and it's on a Sunday)...
     
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    Yes - we only race on Sunday's. Happy birthday - my birthday is also on a Sunday race day.

    Yes - we will be doing a couple of races in the team trucks and the points from those will be added to the Cobra Coupe points for the team championship.
     
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    Why there is minutes split up?

    Ex: 4 laps for Cobras and 2 laps for trucks, right?
     
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    There is now an endurance race function in online whereby you can set the race length in minutes instead of laps- we are going to start using it soon. It doesn't make sense to use this function with very long tracks like Nordschliefe and La Sarthe unless you are planning a very long race as it can mean racing for too long - racing by laps on those tracks gives a more accurate time estimate for the host.
     
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    Yes but I saw the scheudle and it says that Nordschleife will give 1 lap for the team Trucks.
     
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    Thanks Furinkazen - when I was experimenting with paints I was amazed at how much like the original cars the Cobra Daytona Coupe could look to the AC and Willment Cars - when I saw that I thought this is a championship that has to be done!

    Hopefully the team idea will spice things up and doing a couple of races in the team trucks will add some extra fun.

    I haven't finished testing yet, but I think we will run the Cobra Coupes and team trucks untuned as this should lead to some very close racing.
     
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    Why Lotus Elan S1 will be here if we are already using it on WCR? (Just asking)
     
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    I have dropped the Lotus Elan v Triumph Spitfire challenge to give us the opportunity to run the Team Trucks as a separate support series. The championship has been shortened from 12 to 10 rounds.

    The Lotus Elan and Triumph Spitfire are well matched in the game so we will run them against each other in a future series. The Elan dominated under 1600cc GT racing and is also very nice to drive so it makes sense to use it more than once just as we have done with the Cobra - just a shame that it is not a premium car.
     
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    Yes, real shame not be a premium car. I think that every car should be upgraded to premium.

    10 rounds are good.

    Anyways, I'll reserve myself a #96 number in Challenger and Camaro.
     
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    Less rounds and less car changing - nice one Sick. :tup:

    I know it's not till next year, but for the Challenger and Camaro #28 for me.
    It'll also be written in white numbers on the Cobra!

    Colours - Anything goes (within reason)? Or do you want them the same as the Cobras/trucks?
    If I start painting them now, they should be dry by next spring. :)

    Deputy host, official race photographer, team leader! Oh the pressure. You'll have me in charge of the between races catering next. :D


    I hope my PS3 lasts until next year - it's starting to overheat already (even after a clean out).
     
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    Yes - you can man the hospitality tent and print the T shirts.

    Any colours for the Camaro and Challenger race cars except colour change or chrome finish.
     
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    And no matte or polarised finishes.
     
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    One question Sick: Do you think that it is complicated to replicate the rally stages by doing the race mode?

    Like this video, for example..


    Not an order. Just a question, nothing else, Sick.
     
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    Think Scania's point is that the threads over 5 months old slightly random post at this stage don't you think Harsk? Even for you. :)
     
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    Sorry :(
     
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    You're cool mate still love you.x
     
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    Hi Harsk - sorry I didn't notice your post until just now.

    This event will start in April 2015 so some details are still being sorted out. The Main event is the Cobra Daytona Coupe Shootout and the Main Support Event is the Avon Tour of Britain. The rally stages for the Avon Tour will be covered using the Time Trial format as this is ideally suited to rallying - it will enable us to get through four events for 16 competitors in about an hour and a half. This is not possible with normal GT6 race styles which if used for rallying results in most drivers sitting about waiting for their turn and takes an inordinate amount of time.

    For greater realism the Avon Tour circuit races will be of 15 minutes duration with no pitstop like the real event and will be on Sports hard tyres (the real event used road tyres).

    If anyone is interested in these events, they won't be starting until Spring 2015 so why not join the previous event Trans Am and Can Am which starts on 4th January 2015 with a Test Day on 28th December 2014:


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    No problem, thanks Sick. :tup:
     
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    What a magnificent introduction, Sick.
    This kind of work is what everyone should strive for. :tup: