The ute - there's no weight on the rears, so one could easily drift/spin out at a roundabout on a wet day - ....
I've probably told you before, but yes I've had that happen to me.


It's what happens in a Ute on a wet day when the camber of the road falls away mid-way around the round-a-bout if you're not travelling very slowly.
When it is unexpected, yes. Utes are amazingly hard to catch once they let go.
And as for the utes - I have no idea what numbers they put down - but a blast in a 12yr old one of those impressed me more than a blast in a friends XR5 turbo.
Maybe it was sheer suprise though.....
I caught mine when it got very sideways that one day.

It was probably the VS's torque delivery that caught you off and gave you the impression of being faster, the XR5 needed to wait for a turbo. The XR5 is probably a smidge faster than either my Ute or Lenny.
That absolutely cannot be right.
Older, less powerful versions of the same motor, in heavier cars, knock out at least mid-8s to 60.
Sounds about right.
10 seconds to 60 from 204hp. From what i can find.
Absolutely in-correct, see below.
The difference between the 'ute and the Sports Car is the 'ute will only step out under power while a properly setup sports car will set out under throttle lift or trail braking. Which the 'ute has even more problems with do to that majority weight being up front. And power induced over steer is much easier to manage than lift-off induced, thus why an M3 is easier to drive sideways than an MR2. On top of that, I imagine a 'ute is more softly sprung than a sports car, which leads to a slower transfer of weight, thus making it a little less on edge in a dynamic situation.
As a side note, I am quite curious what performance numbers these 'utes put down, as you are making them out to be ragingly fast in a straight line... and I am wondering if this is actually the case or some exaggeration based on other cars over there, kind of how a 15second 1/4 mile is fast compared to a great deal of the cars sold in Europe, etc.
Well no, the Utes are much more stiffly sprung than most normal cars, highly compounded when going over bumps due to not having weight on the rears, so they jump around a bit more. They have to be stiffly sprung to cart weight around in the tray.

The newest model V8s will do 0-100km/hr in the low 5sec range with some low 13sec 1/4mile. MY Ute on the other hand, probably does 0-100km/hr in 7sec-odd and on to a 1/4mile of 16sec or so. Well that's what I'm guessing anyway, with my minor mods. There were no real performance tests done back in the day on my models of Commodore V6, all you can ever really find seems to be guesstimations. A high 7sec sprint to 100km/hr and something of a high 16sec or 17sec 1/4mile is probably what a decent driver could have expected (I'm also only guessing in case you hadn't noticed), they were VERY restricted. It feels a lot faster driving around though due to how the power is delivered, it's a very torquey engine with lots of grunt through the mid-range. I'll be running the 1/4mile some time soon I hope, so stay tuned I guess.

15sec is a pretty fast 1/4mile though, I mean it's slow compared to all the other fast cars around, but when you drive a 15sec car it will feel pretty quick and go pretty hard.
But enough about Utes, what naughty things has everyone done lately?
