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I'm not taking Anes' side with this, but how is this quote wrong? Depression isn't a physical condition, so it has to all be in your head, right?
It's not that simple. Otherwise, there wouldn't be as far as prescription medicine, therapy, etc. to help with it.
>Implying he's unique to everyone else who "suffers from depression".

The quicker he (and you) realise he's not the first person to ever feel like this the better.
Sorry, never said he was the only person to feel that way. But he is the only on GTP like that right now, & no, he can't just turn it off & on like a switch.

>Implying there's actually something to win in this thread.

And with that realisation I really will leave as I don't agree with that one bit.
I really wish you would. You add nothing to the forum.
 
Damnit I want to leave this thread as it's (like most threads) turned into winning an argument 👎

So leave.💡

You can choose to believe me or not I don't care and it's not worth ruining my anonymity to prove a point. I can tell you how to flat shift a V8 Supercar if you wish. I can tell you the route you need to take through the pit building at Albert Park to stand on the F1 podium, if you wish. I can even tell you the The Chase at the end of Conrod Straight is barely a corner as the track widens rather than turns if I must but I really don't give a nun's nasty if you believe me or not.

If you don't want to prove it, I suggest you just not bring it up.
AUP
You will not knowingly post any material that is false, misleading, or inaccurate.

There are forums where people can brag about crap they haven't done or have, this isn't one of them. If you say you are a top driver(which is odd as you have posted during the time that V8 Supercar races were running) you better prove it or not talk about it.

When I talked about wet weather on a street track with 5th gear wheelspin in a straight line I knew instantly from your comments you weren't in a position to comment about the Korean GP's delay. You even called puddles standing water.

I called puddles standing water, as I consider them standing water.

No I'm forever having to defend my opinion as it's almost always different.

That's kind of the point of a forum.

I never said depression "sufferers" are worthy of an asylum

You implied that there is no such thing as a mental disorder and they can all be fixed simply by having a different train of thought. I mentioned Asylums to show that there is more to mental disorders than a train of thought.
 
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Never posted in here before, but I still miss my ex from over 2 years ago. I've had a few other ladyfriends since then and could really care less about them, but that one...I still think about her on the regular.
 
As I understand it, depression is caused by chemical unbalance? It isn't as simple as "changing" your thoughts overnight.

Bingo, interesting that this point hasn't been replied to!


I wouldn't be surprised if she'd come in my face with her boyfriend one day to piss me off but I'm not playing that game.

My university is full of amazing girls but I'm just far too insecure to even dare and try something. I'll guess I just have to stop thinking about it and before I know I might meet someone.

Chances are that he has a hangup about you as her ex although that may be of little comfort. It's difficult completely getting over someone you have had strong feelings for but all the usual sayings are true...time heals all wounds, there's plenty more fish in the sea, etc. You will meet someone else even if they're not on the horizon yet but the best thing to do in the mean time is get yourself out there. It's not easy to do but just put your neck on the line and have a crack when you're out, even if it's a cheesy chat up line the worst that can happen is they tell you to sod off and it's more than likely they'll laugh which is the perfect start.
 
Bingo, interesting that this point hasn't been replied to!

You mean me? Happiness is a chemical balance too no doubt probably. I can cure happiness by kidnapping your pet.

It's not that simple. Otherwise, there wouldn't be anyone to cash in on prescription medicine, therapy, etc.

I went ahead and fixed that for you.

You add nothing to the forum.

I offer a different point of view which is worthless to those who are closed minded.

So leave.💡


So you can say you've won an internet argument when the other person wasn't even arguing? Arguing on the internet is like winning the special olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded.

If you don't want to prove it, I suggest you just not bring it up.

You will not knowingly post any material that is false, misleading, or inaccurate.

It isn't false, misleading or inaccurate.

There are forums where people can brag about crap they haven't done or have, this isn't one of them. If you say you are a top driver(which is odd as you have posted during the time that V8 Supercar races were running) you better prove it or not talk about it.

Because I don't have $500 000 plus damage. I never said I was a V8 Supercar driver either.


I called puddles standing water, as I consider them standing
water.

Oh no it's been raining for 30 seconds and I can see a puddle! RED FLAG THE RACE!!

It's funny how you call everyone that disagrees with you an "elitest" or an "egoist", yet you display the same qualities.
No I'm forever having to defend my opinion as it's almost always different.
That's kind of the point of a forum.

What?
 
You mean me? Happiness is a chemical balance too no doubt probably. I can cure happiness by kidnapping your pet.

Yes I mean you. You're being deliberately provocative with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument which by definition is trolling. Read this then think before you post here again.

Is It Clinical Depression or Sadness?


Although depression is often thought of a being an extreme state of sadness, there is a vast difference between clinical depression and sadness. Sadness is a part of being human -- a natural reaction to painful circumstances. All of us will experience sadness at some point in our lives. Depression, however, is a physical illness with many more symptoms than an unhappy mood.

The person with clinical depression finds that there is not always a logical reason for his dark feelings. Exhortations from well-meaning friends and family for him to "snap out of it" provide only frustration, for he can no more "snap out of it" than a diabetic can will his pancreas to produce more insulin.

Sadness is a transient feeling that passes as a person comes to term with his troubles. Depression can linger for weeks, months or even years. The sad person feels bad, but continues to cope with living. A person with clinical depression may feel overwhelmed and hopeless.

To clarify the differences between normal sadness and depression, there are specific, defined criteria for the diagnosis of major depression:

A person who suffers from a major depressive disorder must either have a depressed mood or a loss of interest or pleasure in daily activities consistently for at least a two-week period. This mood must represent a change from the person's normal mood and impair his functioning in his daily life.

A depressed mood caused by substances such as drugs, alcohol, or medications is not considered a major depressive disorder, nor is one that is caused by a general medical condition.

In cases of bereavement, major depressive disorder may be at play if the symptoms persist for longer than 2 months or are characterized by marked functional impairment, morbid preoccupation with worthlessness, suicidal ideation, psychotic symptoms, or psychomotor retardation.

Major depressive disorder cannot be diagnosed if a person has a history of bipolar disorder (ie. manic, hypomanic or mixed episodes) or if the depressed mood is better accounted for by schizoaffective disorder and is not superimposed on schizophrenia.


This disorder is characterized by the presence of 5 or more of the following symptoms:

•Depressed mood most of the day, nearly every day. An individual may express feeling sad or empty, or others may observe it (ex: appears tearful). Children and adolescents may exhibit irritability

•Markedly diminished interest or pleasure in all, or most, daily activities most of the day, nearly every day

•Significant weight changes (ex: a change of more than 5% of body weight in a month), or decrease or increase in appetite nearly every day

•Insomnia or hypersomnia (sleeping too much) nearly every day

•Psychomotor agitation or retardation nearly every day

•Fatigue or loss of energy nearly every day

•Feelings of worthlessness or excessive or inappropriate guilt nearly every day

•Indecisiveness or diminished ability to think or concentrate nearly every day

•Recurrent thoughts of death, recurrent suicidal ideation without a specific plan, or a suicide attempt or a specific plan for committing suicide

If you are still uncertain as to whether you (or a loved one) may be suffering from depression, screening tests exist that can help you determine whether seeking a professional evaluation is advised. There is a test provided on this site that is simple to use and completely confidential.

Source: American Psychiatric Association. (1994). Diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders, fourth edition. Washington, DC: American Psychiatric Association.
 
Never posted in here before, but I still miss my ex from over 2 years ago. I've had a few other ladyfriends since then and could really care less about them, but that one...I still think about her on the regular.
I kind of miss mine from 5 years ago since I could only relate to her in many ways. But, what ever happened it happened for a reason. Chin up buddy things will get better

Someone could post something very random right now...and the " argument" with Anes on how to deal with a depressive person will go on without actually doing him/her any good.



I ate the cookies in the cookie jar. :(
Ahh...there we go.
 
Arguing on the internet is like winning the special olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded.

And yet all I have ever seen you do is Argue on the internet...
 
Yes I mean you. You're being deliberately provocative with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument which by definition is trolling. Read this then think before you post here again.


Oh you did mean me :sly:

I'm not trolling but I have stated before it would be extremely easy to do on this site. I gave 'cuda a different and unconventional route to take and all I got was ganged up on by people who are unwilling to accept an idea from left field. It's like you people are the church and I'm Galileo. Depression is an excuse as far as I'm concerned. Hate me for that all you want. I even googled something out of boredom for you even though it defies conventional thinking.

Just about everyone knows that depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain. Right? Well, that's what popular mythology has led the man in the street to believe but there has never been any scientific proof for this "truism."

Finally researchers are speaking out about this "lie" that is spun to people in doctors' consulting rooms around the world. Johnathan Leo of Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine in Florida and Jeffrey Lacasse at Florida State University concur that advertising that claims that depression is caused by a chemical imbalance is misleading and should be banned. Such advertisements send out the wrong message to patients, implying that they are passive victims of a brain gone awry, thus potentially leading to further depression. Such advertisements are not only untrue, but profoundly unethical.


And yet all I have ever seen you do is Argue on the internet...

No what you see is me constantly defending my opinion from a group of regular posters who are all familiar with each other. I've tried to talk to you when I was new here about camping near Warwick but you completely ignored me. Stroke your internet ego elsewhere.


Hey man I've been waiting for you. Your familiar friends are over there.
 
No what you see is me constantly defending my opinion from a group of regular posters who are all familiar with each other. I've tried to talk to you when I was new here about camping near Warwick but you completely ignored me. Stroke your internet ego elsewhere.

The reason you find yourself defending your opinion from a group of regulars may be a result of how poorly informed your opinion is. Have you considered that option?

Depression is far more than just "I think I want to be happy, so I will be." There are various causes and solutions, and not all are purely in the mind. I suffer from SAD (Seasonal Affliction Disorder) where I tend to get pretty depressed if the sun isn't out on a regular basis.

Honestly, if you want people to take you seriously, I'd suggest you step off the high horse, evaluate your approach, and perhaps support it with compelling evidence rather than opinion.

K thx bai.
 
The reason you find yourself defending your opinion from a group of regulars may be a result of how poorly informed your opinion is. Have you considered that option?

It's only poorly formed because it's unconventional. My proposition for population control by issuing a licence to breed and forcing abortions didn't go down well either. Likewise my thoughts about guns in the gun nut filled America thread.

A different and challenging point of view is the new Satan apparently.



and lol @ nk4e. I'll take your hint.
 
I've tried to talk to you when I was new here about camping near Warwick but you completely ignored me. Stroke your internet ego elsewhere.

Sorry i didnt reply that post. I honestly dont know what the lake was called :lol:

Ok, lets put the pitch forks down for a second..

Lets say you want to be an artist, its just drawing right? you can picture what you want to draw, hell you could even have it right in front of you. You know what should be done, but you just cant. Now you can practice and practice to become better, but I'm willing to bet that it will take a long time just to be half decent. Otherwise you can go to someone who can already draw and learn from them. Take lessons and learn some basic skills. Now while I don't always agree that everyone who is depressed needs meds, I do believe that they can get some great value from seeing a shrink / psychologist. Psychologists are usually trained to help teach that particular person how to deal with their own condition and train them to put certain procedures into place to improve. Sure they could just try to be happy but if they havn't been happy for a long time, chances are they have forgot what it feels like or simply cant. Others just simply cant deal with the reasons they are depressed.

The reason they have meds is to enhance or make it easier to make the transformation between being sad and happy. It should be used as a tool to aid, rather than a long term solution. Similar to nicotine patches?
 
Oh you did mean me :sly:

I'm not trolling but I have stated before it would be extremely easy to do on this site.

Saying you're not trolling doesn't change the fact that you are trolling.

I gave 'cuda a different and unconventional route to take and all I got was ganged up on by people who are unwilling to accept an idea from left field.

A number of people disagreeing with your opinion because it could be detrimental to some with depression is not the same as ganging up on you personally.

It's like you people are the church and I'm Galileo. Depression is an excuse as far as I'm concerned. Hate me for that all you want. I even googled something out of boredom for you even though it defies conventional thinking.

You people?! Nice

Your opinion of depression as an excuse goes against conventional thinking and you will always be able to find an opinion that matches your own on the internet but if you collate all credible sources you will see that the one you have found is in a very small minority


EDIT: As this isn't really helping Barracuda I'll post these Online Depression Tests, hopefully you'll take the time to complete them and get some professional help :)👍
 
It's only poorly formed because it's unconventional. My proposition for population control by issuing a licence to breed and forcing abortions didn't go down well either. Likewise my thoughts about gun in the gun nut America thread.

You are certainly a classy guy. I'm also fairly certain you are a troll. Conversely, if you honestly think population control is really necessary in first world countries, you are just as naive. Many first world nations experience population increase primarily from immigration, not over breeding.

Anes
It's like you people are the church and I'm Galileo. Depression is an excuse as far as I'm concerned. Hate me for that all you want. I even googled something out of boredom for you even though it defies conventional thinking.

The difference is Galileo was using clear observations of the Jupiter moon system, where as you are ignore virtually all documented science regarding the chemical balances of a person suffering clinical depression. The reality is your analogy is backwards, and you are "the Church" arguing a viewpoint contradicted by evidence and science.
 
You are certainly a classy guy. I'm also fairly certain you are a troll. Conversely, if you honestly think population control is really necessary in first world countries, you are just as naive. Many first world nations experience population increase primarily from immigration, not over breeding.

Well I was hypothesising a law to be implemented worldwide in the future. Even tho my idea was completely immoral no one else could post a different solution to over population besides "Nature will take care of it" I still 'lost' that one too. But I'm still not a deliberate troll.

@ Neal, you people = the people ITT disagreeing
 
Well I was hypothesising a law to be implemented worldwide in the future. Even tho my idea was completely immoral no one else could post a different solution to over population besides "Nature will take care of it" I still 'lost' that one too. But I'm still not a deliberate troll.

Supply and demand will regulate the population. Like most have said anyhow, it is only an issue in nations that aren't developed anyhow, due to a lack of education and birth control. Education is generally the solution to problems, rather than an absurdly overpowered government.

But, you know, proposing a solution to a problem that doesn't really exist hardly makes you forward thinking...
 
I wanted to get Shaun White's Skating boarding game today...

Ew. Don't until you've got skate 1, 2, and 3 first. Even then, I'd rather go back and play the old Tony Hawk games any day over any abomination that Shaun White clown puts out.
 
I went ahead and fixed that for you.
And as always, you're wrong. I'd ask for proof, but I know you haven't got anything but your "opinion".

I offer a different point of view which is worthless to those who are closed minded.
The only close minded person here is you. You believe you are a realist, when in fact, you aren't, & believe you have such a different outlook, which in reality, said outlook is nothing but stupid views.

You said depression hasn't been around for 100 years, when it has, & that it can be flicked off by changing your thoughts. Documented proof says otherwise, yet you're still right. So, who's close minded again?
 
Anes,

You are taking an extremely confrontational approach. Are you really that sure that the tyrannical bully method is sound? I don't endorse the coddle approach either, but you need to understand that the bully and coddle methods suffer from a big shortcoming; they are reacting to being drawn into the person's delusions.

And of course Cuda is being melodramatic, that's what people sound like when they are opening themselves up and sharing their feelings. And when you are suicidal, you are actually quite susceptible to bouts of major paranoia. If you had been reading Cuda's writing, you may have noticed that this fact is not exactly lost on him:

When I'm to that point nobody matters, because everyone hates me for whatever reason I've come up with, or just the fact of having to look at and talk to me, so killing myself is more like doing myself and everyone else a favor in my head.

The whole idea of writing it down, is so that he can review what was previously written, not suffer from a lack of perspective, and help himself to heal.

I could be wrong, but I think that you (Anes) just like stirring the pot and watching the reaction. But maybe you are simply an extremely confrontational person.
 
Sorry father for I have sinned

I made a thread in the f1 2010 forum for a video when there was already a videos thread I was tired and didnt think and its probably locked now.
 
You will meet someone else even if they're not on the horizon yet but the best thing to do in the mean time is get yourself out there. It's not easy to do but just put your neck on the line and have a crack when you're out, even if it's a cheesy chat up line the worst that can happen is they tell you to sod off and it's more than likely they'll laugh which is the perfect start.

So, eh, when you are talking with a girl and she's smiling at you as if she is waiting for something, does that mean it may be appropriate to ask her if she has "any plans" during the week? :scared:

I did left with a kind of a feeling I've let something slip...

On that, what's up with me getting overly stressed with people looking at me? I mean, I take care of myself, always dress properly, shaved, perfumes and all that and whatnot but I seem to get stressed about people looking at me. I found the issue to be the worst with the women. I don't know whether it's a "Dude, do something about that!" or the opposite. Maybe it's just me being so insecure that I unconsciously pay more attention to it or imagine it. But sometimes it's creeping the hell out of me.
 
So, eh, when you are talking with a girl and she's smiling at you as if she is waiting for something, does that mean it may be appropriate to ask her if she has "any plans" during the week? :scared:

I did left with a kind of a feeling I've let something slip...

On that, what's up with me getting overly stressed with people looking at me? I mean, I take care of myself, always dress properly, shaved, perfumes and all that and whatnot but I seem to get stressed about people looking at me. I found the issue to be the worst with the women. I don't know whether it's a "Dude, do something about that!" or the opposite. Maybe it's just me being so insecure that I unconsciously pay more attention to it or imagine it. But sometimes it's creeping the hell out of me.

It sounds like you may have a bit of social phobia, not to be confused with sociophobia. I can't tell you that this is any kind of a long term way to deal with it, but you might try giving yourself an ego boost before entering that type of social situation. The balancing act being not to let the ego boost go to your head; think peacock, but don't act domineering.

My 2 pence/cents.
 
So, eh, when you are talking with a girl and she's smiling at you as if she is waiting for something, does that mean it may be appropriate to ask her if she has "any plans" during the week? :scared:

I did left with a kind of a feeling I've let something slip...

On that, what's up with me getting overly stressed with people looking at me? I mean, I take care of myself, always dress properly, shaved, perfumes and all that and whatnot but I seem to get stressed about people looking at me. I found the issue to be the worst with the women. I don't know whether it's a "Dude, do something about that!" or the opposite. Maybe it's just me being so insecure that I unconsciously pay more attention to it or imagine it. But sometimes it's creeping the hell out of me.

There's nothing wrong with what you said imo. It's pretty obvious what it meant but isn't so blatant that it takes away any doubt and therefore the fun of wondering if you're interested. It's good to be bold but don't be put off if nothing happens straight away, it doesn't always work but persistence shouldn't be underrated ;)

As TouringDevotee said give yourself an ego boost and try and think the girls are looking at you because they're interested, it's better than thinking the opposite and is much more likely to be true.
 

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