"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Rexracer702]

the C7 gets most of the power at the bottom so you can short shift that thing like crazy.

The Ford GT is another one that likes short shifting with no loss of acceleration. I'll probably race both this week.

 

[Pigems]

The Ford GT is another one that likes short shifting with no loss of acceleration. I'll probably race both this week.

The Supra also likes to be short shifted I belive.

 

[slthree]

Thank you for the reply. Plus 2 helped me with my qualifying time. Although, I'm embarrassed to say what it is. I finally broke 1.9 and got a 108.669

Please don't ban me from the site for such a slow time

I'm not really good but have been doing well there this week.

I've done OK with it at zero. But I've hit my best times with BB +2 rear. Only really helps on the 1st turn. Helps smooth the car out when trail braking. Otherwise the weight shift can make you lose speed. I usually start every time with the BB at zero then adjust it after a few lapse. That way you can compare with your ghost.

Now if only I could keep other cars from pushing me off the road with impunity!

When I can't pass somebody because they have a perfect racing line, I just stay behind them and hope they make a mistake.

But the people I'm racing with today are ramming me from behind and from both sides, pushing me right off the track. They will do anything to pass and it's a very distasteful and I think my blood pressure is going up

 

[SpaceMaN47y0]

Although, I'm embarrassed to say what it is. I finally broke 1.9 and got a 108.669

Please don't ban me from the site for such a slow time

Thats how I've felt since I got here.

Had 1:09.003 knocked it down to 1:08.3 today. I suck bad in the race though.

 

[JoeDaSnow]

why couldn't it just be regular seaside? backwards sucks.

I hate both versions of Dragon Trail-Seaside too. I shall never return to either of them in daily races. Now I can focus on the FIA races.

 

[slthree]

Thats how I've felt since I got here.

Had 1:09.003 knocked it down to 1:08.3 today. I suck bad in the race though.

I appreciate your reply and making me feel like I'm not alone but I would kill to have your qualifying time right now! Lol

Give me a 1:08.3 any day!

Do any of you have difficulty at the start of race A?

I've qualified 8th two or three times and before we're even off the grid I fall to 10th

Is there a secret to the start that I'm not aware of?

 

[Pigems]

Do any of you have difficulty at the start of race A?

I've qualified 8th two or three times and before we're even off the grid I fall to 10th

Is there a secret to the start that I'm not aware of?

Just redline it in 1st until the light goes green, there is no false start in this race.

 

[slthree]

Just redline it in 1st until the light goes green, there is no false start in this race.

Thank you Sir

 

[SpaceMaN47y0]

I prefer to nail it right when the circle around the 1 fills up. Seemed a good jump, at least in the fiat. I run TCS 1 in qualy, 2 or 3 in race, depending on how squirrely it feels. And I usually am last or close to it after the first turn. (With the last couple weeks races anyway, I was actually good in a couple way back when.) So while well back on my way to DR 1 I've decided I'm going back to suck and finish bad and try for clean stars every race no matter what. Last race I let everyone by cleanly. A too aggressive turn killed my clean though.

Goin for a few race Bs after dinner.

 

[slthree]

@SpaceMaN47y0 I'm glad you brought up traction control because I was wondering how much does it affect overall speed with the mini

I believe the game gives the default at 3 and I set it to 2

Can anyone weigh in on if I'll be faster if I lower it even more?

 

[beegentoo]

@SpaceMaN47y0 I'm glad you brought up traction control because I was wondering how much does it affect overall speed with the mini

I believe the game gives the default at 3 and I set it to 2

Can anyone weigh in on if I'll be faster if I lower it even more?

For the Mini, turn it off. The engine has no power compared to GT-cars. When it kicks in you‘ll lose loads of torque.

 

[SpaceMaN47y0]

Definitely listen to them, they're faster. I still need the stability at expense of speed/time.

 

[Pigems]

I jumped on DT for a few laps tonight but the TT had no Mojo, 47.0 was the best I could do. I did have 2 tenths on that lap exiting the esses at one point but caught a sliver of grass and the car went wobbly on me and I lost it going up the hill. There is more time there, but it’s gonna take a marathon session to put it together I think.

 

[Oshawa-Joe]

I jumped on DT for a few laps tonight but the TT had no Mojo, 47.0 was the best I could do. I did have 2 tenths on that lap exiting the esses at one point but caught a sliver of grass and the car went wobbly on me and I lost it going up the hill. There is more time there, but it’s gonna take a marathon session to put it together I think.

I've caught that same sliver of grass a few times. Lots of time gained or lost on that section.

 

[Pigems]

I've caught that same sliver of grass a few times. Lots of time gained or lost on that section.

There most definitely is, I wasn’t getting thru it cleanly today at all. I keep going back and forth between downshifting to 4th for the last Apex and staying in 5th, 5th is slightly faster but 4th lets you turn in better and you’re higher in the gear going up the hill before going back to 5th so it almost evens out it seems.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

It's chaos again on N24

This is what happens when you brake for irresponsible track re-entries

I guess that's what csa is for


This is what happens when you keep a safe distance waiting for a place to attempt a pass

Yeah, I saw his nose coming. I also know that if I went wide he would have used me as a bumper and I would be in the wall. 4 sec penalty it is.


This is what happens when you say **** it and just keep your foot down

Now tell me, what's the correct driving style.


I'm trying out the Corvette yet haven't been able to get a lap yet without getting punted or rammed. A/S rooms are soo dirty. It's that time of night.


Ok, I almost rage quit, instead letting auto drive finish the race so I can report the idiots. This is not fun anymore. I'm going to make a livery instead. What a disgrace.

 

[Oshawa-Joe]

There most definitely is, I wasn’t getting thru it cleanly today at all. I keep going back and forth between downshifting to 4th for the last Apex and staying in 5th, 5th is slightly faster but 4th lets you turn in better and you’re higher in the gear going up the hill before going back to 5th so it almost evens out it seems.

Yeah, really depends on how much speed I carry through that apex, if I shift to 4th or keep it in 5th. Need to keep close to 110mph.

 

[Pigems]

Yeah, really depends on how much speed I carry through that apex, if I shift to 4th or keep it in 5th. Need to keep close to 110mph.

This is very true, and a great point. That’s one’s thing I rarely do though is look at my speed, I tend to look to the clock more than the speedo for some reason when I get the chance, I just use my gears to gauge my speed 99% of the time.

 

[Dogwolf77]

This is very true, and a great point. That’s one’s thing I rarely do though is look at my speed, I tend to look to the clock more than the speedo for some reason when I get the chance, I just use my gears to gauge my speed 99% of the time.

About the only items I look at when racing are TCS (I’m always adjusting), tire wear, and fuel remaining or mapping. If I look down for to long I am sure to make a huge mistake. Unless I’m good and relaxed, depressed, or in a bad mood.

 

[Rexracer702]

I prefer to nail it right when the circle around the 1 fills up. Seemed a good jump, at least in the fiat. I run TCS 1 in qualy, 2 or 3 in race, depending on how squirrely it feels. And I usually am last or close to it after the first turn. (With the last couple weeks races anyway, I was actually good in a couple way back when.) So while well back on my way to DR 1 I've decided I'm going back to suck and finish bad and try for clean stars every race no matter what. Last race I let everyone by cleanly. A too aggressive turn killed my clean though.

Goin for a few race Bs after dinner.

Give the Fiat a try with no TCS. I think you get better acceleration letting that inside tire spin, and getting more revs. You may find it easy to get used to on that car.

I finally raced my first race of the week. Race C, in the Vette. RH tires, no stop, no Q. Started 13th of 19. I was at a high SR-A and the room was mostly SR-A with some S and B's. Fuel was full rich, with short shifting at 1/4 to 1/2 the rev bar. Cranked it to #4 drafting a McLaren the first lap, checked fuel, and started the 2'nd lap on #2. Got the .1 lap warning getting to the long straight, and put it on 6 with nobody to draft...made it to the finish in 6th, 1.8 seconds in front of the first of 3 McLarens that finished 7,8,9. My race time was 17:57 flat. I'm pretty happy with how it went. I really went in just trying to stay out of trouble and on track. I was 24 seconds behind the winner, but only 12 behind 3rd, and I got spun 2 corners from the long straight on the last lap, so that cost me time. It was strange...the 911 in front of me got into the McLaren in front of him coming out of that 2nd banked corner, and turned the McLaren sideways. He ghosted and I went right through his driver's door, and as I was coming out the other side, bang! And I spun. I think it was him since the closest car behind me was almost 3 seconds back when I hit his ghost, and I never lifted.
I tried the McLaren, but it's too touchy with curbs. I like that I finished in front of all of them, and they all started in front of me.

Edit: I think the Vette is the fastest I've driven, other than the McLaren. With no draft it pulled 168 at the top of the hill before the bridge. It did 162 on #6 fuel.

 

[Oshawa-Joe]

About the only items I look at when racing are TCS (I’m always adjusting), tire wear, and fuel remaining or mapping. If I look down for to long I am sure to make a huge mistake. Unless I’m good and relaxed, depressed, or in a bad mood.

Not so.much during racing but during time trails when I'm trying to get the best drive out of a corner, or the exit of the corner. Tells me if I need to change something going into the corner next time.

 

[Rexracer702]

This is very true, and a great point. That’s one’s thing I rarely do though is look at my speed, I tend to look to the clock more than the speedo for some reason when I get the chance, I just use my gears to gauge my speed 99% of the time.

Thats funny, how people do different things, all to get to the same place. When I hot lap, speed coming out of, or in the middle of the corner is what I look at to judge the corner. I also watch the gap to my ghost to see where I loose or gain. In a race i watch the gaps front and back, and take note of what I did if I gain or loose a chunk of time.

 

[SpaceMaN47y0]

I find the ghost distracting, so I glance at the little interval timer. The arrows always confused me, but now I'm pretty sure its just if you're faster or slower at that moment. The time is all that matters though.

 

[Rexracer702]

I find the ghost distracting, so I glance at the little interval timer. The arrows always confused me, but now I'm pretty sure its just if you're faster or slower at that moment. The time is all that matters though.

That is exactly what the arrows show. The cool part is what you can learn from it. For example, at Tokyo last week, if i went into the hairpin to hot, I would blow past the apex, get it turned, and hop on the gas hard. Blowing the apex might loose me .6 or .7 seconds, but getting on the gas early and hard had me gaining all the way to start/finish, and by that point I'd gained back half the time. The important part is that my speed was higher the whole time. I used that in a race when I was stuck behind a crowd going into the hairpin. I would go in wide, and extra deep, and get a very good drive and basically 50 ft more straight, while everyone piled up at the apex and slowed each other down. Even if I don't make the outside pass, I have extra mph and can pass on the straight. Sometimes you find a better line by making an error and discovering it's faster (because you're gaining) I've felt foolish braking too early for a corner and slowing too much, only to discover that because of it, I got a much better drive, and gained way more time down the straight than I could ever gain by braking so deep.
Edit: I wish we could share ghosts, In MotoGP 3 you can race against record lap ghosts and there's no better way to find speed than chasing someone faster. Get a ghost for a track I don't know from someone like @Sven Jurgens , who has thousands of races and is very smooth, And I could learn it in 1/4 of the time.

 

[Groundfish]

That is exactly what the arrows show. The cool part is what you can learn from it. For example, at Tokyo last week, if i went into the hairpin to hot, I would blow past the apex, get it turned, and hop on the gas hard. Blowing the apex might loose me .6 or .7 seconds, but getting on the gas early and hard had me gaining all the way to start/finish, and by that point I'd gained back half the time. The important part is that my speed was higher the whole time. I used that in a race when I was stuck behind a crowd going into the hairpin. I would go in wide, and extra deep, and get a very good drive and basically 50 ft more straight, while everyone piled up at the apex and slowed each other down. Even if I don't make the outside pass, I have extra mph and can pass on the straight. Sometimes you find a better line by making an error and discovering it's faster (because you're gaining) I've felt foolish braking too early for a corner and slowing too much, only to discover that because of it, I got a much better drive, and gained way more time down the straight than I could ever gain by braking so deep.

+1 That’s racing vs hotlap. 2 different worlds!

 

[Tea_Leaves]

I tried a no stop using the AMG at Nürburgring with Hs and it went pretty horribly. I started last without qualifying and ended P16 without passing the finish line (got as far as the straight).

I've only short shifted in a few races before so adjusting is still proving to be difficult for me. Not to mention the track in general is a challenge. I was only able to become used to slow cars on the circuit so adding GR3 into the mix has been a whole new ball game.

I'll give it another shot although I'm beginning to think this combo isn't for me. I'll likely try a one stop on Ms next.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Back to the nurb. Fuel managing the Corvette is no problem. That car actually seems to accelerate faster with extreme short shifting. It has some more understeer over the Lexus, but is also a little better with tire wear so mediums compensate somewhat for that.

So far, still not been able to see what I'm capable of with that car as I was stuck in traffic for both laps again and got bumped off twice as a result. It's a bump or get bumped world out there. Especially the McLaren's are a nuisance. Good acceleration bad brakes, not good to have behind you in slow traffic.

Anyway, my new livery helped, 3rd place, penalty free, SR up, in a room full of red. I passed 3 people in the last section due to all their penalties... Perhaps the 11pm race is when clean racing starts... Keep hoping.

Yep C7 is faster. Finally a lap without getting bump off. I still got slowed down so should be able to squeeze more out of it but beat my Lexus time by 3 sec already, down to 8:27 flat.

Not penalty free as a McLaren tried to pass at the twisty section after the hairpin. Why do people keep trying to pass there. He blamed me for not defending in time, he had the inside (his nose) and I cut him off. It's the fast succession of lefts and rights, wtf is the inside there lol. The most horrible place to attempt a pass.

What am I supposed to do, weave like an idiot to block all the 'insides'? Or veer out of the way onto the grass. There's only one line through there... McLarens are the new GTRs (used to be the main nuisance on Bathurst)

 

[slthree]

Thank you for the suggestion to take traction control off on the mini

I got my qualifying time down to 1:08.062

I know that's not fast for you guys but for now I'll take it.

So, I joined a race and I was sitting 6th on the grid which is my highest starting position. I saw a friend who was sitting in pole positions and I was really looking forward to the race...

Then this happened. Do you guys know what this means because the grid on the screen just disappeared and I'm still stuck here

I also want to say I have great respect for you guys who are doing race C. That is a difficult track driving it alone. I can't imagine how you battle the traffic on that difficult a track

 

[Dogwolf77]

Thank you for the suggestion to take traction control off on the mini

I got my qualifying time down to 1:08.062

I know that's not fast for you guys but for now I'll take it.

So, I joined a race and I was sitting 6th on the grid which is my highest starting position. I saw a friend who was sitting in pole positions and I was really looking forward to the race...

Then this happened. Do you guys know what this means because the grid on the screen just disappeared and I'm still stuck here

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I also want to say I have great respect for you guys who are doing race C. That is a difficult track driving it alone. I can't imagine how you battle the traffic on that difficult a track

Yep, I’m stuck in it now. DPWOLFLA.
It looked like you were writing a message right before the start and stuck in the pit lane.
It started once you left. I got second and the fastest lap....

 

[Trone_Colby]

Another win for the Adidas Team.

I didn’t think I had a chance against someone that was at least .600s faster than me. He messed up and wrecked. Too bad his connection screwed him.



I know DTS2 is not everyone’s favorite. I’m actually getting better here.