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I tried Gr.4 @ Monza without doing a qualilap 2 times today because i feared the T1 crashfest :)

Ended up in Place 8 with the M4, which is down on power and on place 9 with the aston because i messed up my fuel management and lost about 1000DR points, but who cares :D It was kind of fun anyway.

After that i set the currently Top1 qualification lap for the moment :)
 
Mr616
It was optimistic. He wasn't holding the inside as he overtook and was always gonna force/squeeze the other racer on exit because of his entry speed.

Not dirty, but not a text book move either. I wouldn't have gone for that overtake from where the 458 was. He was lucky the BMW was compliant imo.
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Wasn't holding the inside...he was literally side-by-side with him going into the corner. You really think he should have not gone for that??? Being overly cautious is more likely to cause incidents than not going for opportunities to overtake, and that was more of an invitation than an opportunity. The BMW driver only has himself to blame there.
 
Great morning on Monza, done 10 races

Noticed massively that at around 11am GMT the races got harder, more people crashing. Maybe the better drivers getting up early to get on before its tricky?

Im SR S as well, and lost points a lot at the start, usually top 5 on grid, then get punted off when it comes to a stop and then penalised and lose places which is annoying. Was fine before 11am though

Had a great race with somebody off here and cant remember their name! It started with GTP though, Dutch person, really good driver, far better than me
 
Invisigoth
I'm not convinced that's accurate. I did tonight's one make Suzuka and there were two DR/Bs at the top of the grid. All SR/Ss, and I qualified 10th. I finished 9th and lost DR points. The number I was given was 1. I'm DR/D.
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This has been discussed a number of times on the forums and I’m actually convinced that it’s true. If Polyphony Digital doesn’t confirm this, then it’s at least a sound enough theory.
 
Jamie Bbbbb
Wasn't holding the inside...he was literally side-by-side with him going into the corner. You really think he should have not gone for that??? Being overly cautious is more likely to cause incidents than not going for opportunities to overtake, and that was more of an invitation than an opportunity. The BMW driver only has himself to blame there.
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You are putting faith in the driver on the outside who is a stranger, so no, I wouldn't have gone for that on that corner in a public sport lobby. The line of the 458 was never taking the BMW into consideration. If the BMW would've battled harder the 458 would've taken him out.

It was optimistic, and the 458 was lucky the BMW was compliant.

If I had gone for that move, I would not have exited like the 458 did. I would've scrubbed more speed to leave space on the outside.

Over aggressive causes more incidents than airing on the side of caution.
 
Mr616
You are putting faith in the driver on the outside who is a stranger, so no, I wouldn't have gone for that on that corner in a public sport lobby. The line of the 458 was never taking the BMW into consideration. If the BMW would've battled harder the 458 would've taken him out.

It was optimistic, and the 458 was lucky the BMW was compliant.

If I had gone for that move, I would not have exited like the 458 did. I would've scrubbed more speed to leave space on the outside.

Over aggressive causes more incidents than airing on the side of caution.
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The BMW did not convey any intention of defending his position heading into the turn. I don't know if this is just an F1 thing - I don't watch other motorsports much - but why do some people on this game seem oblivious to the idea of taking the inside line into the corner to defend? You can't honestly go through the motions, not having a care in the world for the yards of space on your inside, and then blame someone for attacking that space when they are side-by-side with you. That BMW driver simply lacks the intuition required to be successful in wheel-to-wheel racing. I get the impression that people like him/her are the kinds of people who come on this forum and complain about dirty drivers.

It doesn't really make a difference in the context of things that the BMW avoided turning in mid-corner. Even if he had done so, he would still have lost out and the 458 would have won regardless. When you say, "You are putting faith in the driver on the outside" - what, so you are going to avoid going for the obvious move, just in case the BMW decides to turn in on you when you are already effectively past and ruin his own corner? That is basically like letting him win the race just because you are scared that his own incompetence will cause him to ruin his own race.
 
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Jamie Bbbbb
The BMW did not convey any intention of defending his position heading into the turn. I don't know if this is just an F1 thing - I don't watch other motorsports much - but why do some people on this game seem oblivious to the idea of taking the inside line into the corner to defend? You can't honestly go through the motions, not having a care in the world for the yards of space on your inside, and then blame someone for attacking that space when they are side-by-side with you. That BMW driver simply lacks the intuition required to be successful in wheel-to-wheel racing. I get the impression that people like him/her are the kinds of people who come on this forum and complain about dirty drivers.

It doesn't really make a difference in the context of things that the BMW avoided turning in mid-corner. Even if he had done so, he would still have lost out and the 458 would have won regardless. When you say, "You are putting faith in the driver on the outside" - what, so you are going to avoid going for the obvious move, just in case the BMW decides to turn in on you when you are already effectively past and ruin his own corner?
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I would'nt have tried that move at that corner in that scenario. The BMW moved onto the racing line for fast corner entry to a fast sweeping corner. To go up the inside there, is risky, and the entry speed of the 458 was always going to run him wide leaving no space for the BMW IF he had battled it out.

IF I had made that move, I wouldn't have carried as much speed into the corner to leave space for the BMW.

You race your way and I'll race mine.

My intuition tells me that move was risky, and could result at being re-overtaken later in the lap or a crash. I would say hold position, give pressure to the leader and see how the land lies on the last corner after setting up for a last corner overtake.
 
Mr616
I would'nt have tried that move at that corner in that scenario. The BMW moved onto the racing line for fast corner entry to a fast sweeping corner. To go up the inside there, is risky, and the entry speed of the 458 was always going to run him wide leaving no space for the BMW IF he had battled it out.

IF I had made that move, I wouldn't have carried as much speed into the corner to leave space for the BMW.

You race your way and I'll race mine.

My intuition tells me that move was risky, and could result at being re-overtaken later in the lap or a crash. I would say hold position, give pressure to the leader and see how the land lies on the last corner after setting up for a last corner overtake.
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Okay, we can agree to disagree. But I just have to summarise by saying that I don't see how you can be thinking about "what if"s when going into a huge overtaking opportunity on the last turn of the last lap of the race (which is something that you appear to have missed - this overtake was the last chance for the victory). Nor do I see how you could have pity on an opponent for lacking racing intuition. I would never in a million years be happy to let that chance go, but if you would be then there you go I guess.
 
I just finished Monza. I think people are learning about the first chicane. It was not the usual crash fest. It would have been a fairly clean race, had it not been for the joker in front of me on the 3rd last lap.

I got better drive out of a number of corners, but couldn't quite get where i needed to be for the corner. He had done a few moves when i was coming up behind him which I just put down to being a bit shaky. Second last lap and I was clearly faster. In a strait with plenty of room, he kept weaving to block regardless of which side I tried. It was very much like the behaviour the etiquette video tells you *not* to do! (One move is apparently an alien concept :dunce:). I got up inside him on the first chicane and he turned in to knock me off, but ended up in the sand. His post race comment was not polite! :lol:

In the end I finished 3 positions up but still lost most of my DR points and two SR points.
 
well well. Gave Monza another go today, messed up badly with brakingpoints in a ferrari... Gave it yet another go in GT-R, Dead last.. but it was really good with fuel compared to the ferrari. But So many point I need to catch up now :banghead::gtpflag:

What strategy / car did you suceed with on monza ?
 
I'm about to try something I never did, Race C, Nations Cup and Manufacturers Series!

First, Monza and Huracan:




Wish me luck :)

Update:

Sportsman S, well, what is E then...
I'll do Nations bcs I love layout, but now I see that fair play is only illusion!

Only fair play is no collision/ghost play!

Game even registers touch when coming too close, but no touch yet...
And punish is it, but bombers, no.
 
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An eventful race from me....not the cleanest, I am sorry for bumping that italian guy going into Lesmo 1. I'm not sorry for bumping that guy right before that, who tried to gain places by cutting the chicane.

The Astroturf at the end of Parabolica took Dayrone out, sadly :(

 
I'm looking for some advice here as I'm reasonably new to online racing. Was doing quite well last night at Brands Hatch when I was taken out from behind on a turn in lap 2 and punted into a wall. It seemed almost instantly I rematerialised right in the middle of the track and cringed in my seat as I watched the ensuing mayhem behind me as the pack tried to avoid me. Had it been my choice I'd have waited off track for all to pass. Is this a feature that I can disable? If so, please tell me how. QUICKLY!!
 
I had something very strange today on Monza. Some guy had pole when I was starting 6th. After a mistake from his side he came in front of me in the first stint. I had no problem catching up with him.

After the pitstop he was not nearby so we both drove our race. But after the race I saw he had fastest lap. While I was thinking how he could have such quali time I thought how it was possible for him to have FL.

So I watched the replay and saw that in his FL he cutted the first chicane. He should have had a penalty for that. Still his time, 2 seconds faster then the others, was recorded as FL. I think he had done this in his qualifying as well, because during the replay not one time he could take the first chicane properly.

It is not the respawn glitch. He drove over the small piece of asphalt. In his second stint he did this in every round.
 
mike53
I'm looking for some advice here as I'm reasonably new to online racing. Was doing quite well last night at Brands Hatch when I was taken out from behind on a turn in lap 2 and punted into a wall. It seemed almost instantly I rematerialised right in the middle of the track and cringed in my seat as I watched the ensuing mayhem behind me as the pack tried to avoid me. Had it been my choice I'd have waited off track for all to pass. Is this a feature that I can disable? If so, please tell me how. QUICKLY!!
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You can't disable it. However I have never seen this happen without the car ghosting out until you are up to a decent speed again after respawning. If you were ghosted out then the others could have driven through you rather than needing to avoid you.
 
Jamie Bbbbb
You can't disable it. However I have never seen this happen without the car ghosting out until you are up to a decent speed again after respawning. If you were ghosted out then the others could have driven through you rather than needing to avoid you.
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Well, it would not be the first time for me the car is not ghosted anymore just in front of me when I come at a higher speed. I always try to avoid ghosted cars because of that..
 
mike53
I'm looking for some advice here as I'm reasonably new to online racing. Was doing quite well last night at Brands Hatch when I was taken out from behind on a turn in lap 2 and punted into a wall. It seemed almost instantly I rematerialised right in the middle of the track and cringed in my seat as I watched the ensuing mayhem behind me as the pack tried to avoid me. Had it been my choice I'd have waited off track for all to pass. Is this a feature that I can disable? If so, please tell me how. QUICKLY!!
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Go to race settings at top left of screen when/before/after changing yr car settings.
Select: race settings / penalty settings / replace car when leaves track / off.

However, this, I think, only works in Arcade mode, I don't think you can do it in Campaign or Sport mode.

Good news is when replaced on track it gets you back in race within a few seconds (invaluable at Willow circuits) at which point you will be "ghosted for 2/3 more seconds so can get off line before you become "unghosted" or solid again.
 
@mickyevs No, race B with the Viper. Just beat it though. Seems to be back for the time being.
Got too narked at the wrs on the ring. I play for fun and it wasn't enjoyable for me.
 
BSDShoes
Anyone having trouble connecting in GTS? Everytime I enter dailies I get booted offline.
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I was right after Qs in Nations Cup when connection came red!

But it all finished well, and it was very fair race!
I see that other players has some other lines, I guess they did what I forgot - to watch some top ten repkay...



Watch red connect in top right corner at the end, nasty one!
 
Dragontail GR.3 was blast run it since evening and manage stay on high position. Well yeah meet some crasher out there but mostly fastest man on server run on Dragontail so the room was much cleaner than Monza lol :lol:

BSDShoes
Anyone having trouble connecting in GTS? Everytime I enter dailies I get booted offline.
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Lol because of this I got easy win just cause from 14 people register on matchmaking I only meet 4 people :lol:
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that guy insists on taking the outside in that dragon trail chicane where there is NO GODDAMN SPACE , he hits me then the wall and guess who gets the 10 sec penalty?
 
Yup just did a Dragon Tail race, why do people think about squeezing through corners when they know they don't have a chance, I got taken out TWICE from someone trying to get by me when I've already committed to the corner- at least I had the opportunity to ram the guy in the ass later in the race. Basically everyone except me and another had a red SR, the two of us had a neutral SR.

And two wide through the bus stop is a BAD IDEA.
 
Renrag39
@mickyevs No, race B with the Viper. Just beat it though. Seems to be back for the time being.
Got too narked at the wrs on the ring. I play for fun and it wasn't enjoyable for me.
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Just qualified 10th at Suzuka. I hate Suzuka,
Manufacturers cup
 
BSDShoes
Yup just did a Dragon Tail race, why do people think about squeezing through corners when they know they don't have a chance, I got taken out TWICE from someone trying to get by me when I've already committed to the corner- at least I had the opportunity to ram the guy in the ass later in the race. Basically everyone except me and another had a red SR, the two of us had a neutral SR.

And two wide through the bus stop is a BAD IDEA.
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What exactly is the bus stop?
 
Bus stop is that double chicane near the end of the track, like a pull out from the road and back, except with deadly walls.

Dragontrail has been a mixed bag so far. Decent rooms with mostly B/S players in it to dirt fests in rooms with mostly A/S in it, including cursing after the race and mostly red ratings to some downgraded to A. Why can't A/S get along! I escaped the carnage so far, yet I'll switch over to Monza, see how that is today. 3 wide through the first chicane is a bad idea as well... why...
 
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