"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[fred1956]

Most likely, the driver who bumped you exceeded track limits just afterward and you were blamed by the penalty system as if you had pushed him off. I have heard some dirty drivers are doing this deliberately to force penalties on others. Just try to race on and treat it as an unavoidable incident, not much else you can do.

Thanks

 

[JosX]

I've been enjoying Race B but it's definitely a risky one. Always seem to end up being rammed off this track. Good time to practice defensive driving.

Huracan and RCZ and are stupid quick in a straight line but I've found I can generally land top 5 positions very consistently in the Atenza. Really well balanced car. It's quite fun messing about with various cars after mainly just using what the quickest guys are using. The Genesis is also a total blast although hard to be competitive.

 

[05XR8]

Moved up to 2nd in the Vantage, but I left the door open too long for a WRX to sneak past and a HUracan divebombed me in the infield section.
The Vantage has the off throttle turn in like the FF cars. Even better than the Mustang. Really nice. Worked perfect in the slow corners.
I got 0.5 seconds for tyres on the outside curb at T3. Then, 1 second for a GT-R hitting me on my rear bumper. That penalty has to stop.

Anyway, i wasn't letting the winning Megane get away. I know the Megane is fast, but the F-Type is fast and so good in the corners. I used that to close the 1.3-1.5 second gap, to 1 second at the backend of the last lap to the finish. Oh what could have been without that 1 second penalty!

 

[GernKnudly]

Hey everyone!

This week the daily B is a bit like a Lamborghini cup, but others who go with different characteristic cars make it more fun!
In the first race I started midfield and went hard as I could.
The second race was different, I've managed to take the lead, from then I had to protect it from some really quick guys!
Enjoy!

 

[watto79]

Hey everyone!

This week the daily B is a bit like a Lamborghini cup, but others who go with different characteristic cars make it more fun!
In the first race I started midfield and went hard as I could.
The second race was different, I've managed to take the lead, from then I had to protect it from some really quick guys!
Enjoy!

Savage overtake at 5:55. Loved it!

 

[ASH32]

So tried a few more cars, 650S too slow, Trophy the same, 86 same although not too bad otherwise and not nearly as slow as the other two. Viper pretty pants, I mean it's not awful at anything but it's not good at anything either, there is no reason to use it, similar to the SLS in that regard.

Then I found a decent car, the F-type. It's not in the Atenza, Corvette, Huracan and Lancer class but it's not too far behind, the right driver could get 1:37's with it I'm sure, there's a challenge for someone.

 

[Melbourne Park]

Hey everyone!

This week the daily B is a bit like a Lamborghini cup, but others who go with different characteristic cars make it more fun!
In the first race I started midfield and went hard as I could.
The second race was different, I've managed to take the lead, from then I had to protect it from some really quick guys!
Enjoy!

Wow, loved both races. Some fair driving there too. Loved your late breaking, the lines and the throttle control. And I loved your competitors.

A very different experience to me. I start 5th or 6th, in an all S, A+ and A field. Driving the Lancer, which is very quick at the first two corners ( a long chicane really). So I am close to the cars in front of me - one of which somehow goes into the left dirt - i guess the guy to his right pushed him. Then there is a car in front of me, quite side ways, on the first straight leading to corner 4. This happened a couple of days ago to me too. How can people loose it on a straight? I swore back then to swerve left and go onto the dirt. But I still don't understand why the cars just sit there in the straight sideways instead of running off the track? Ridiculous. Anyway I turn left heading for the left side of the straight and brake. i still hit the guy. 4 penalty seconds. Then the guy behind me runs into me. Another 4 penalty seconds awarded to me. 8 seconds and a negative SR. No worries about the SR I thought - mine are 92. Next lap I do my penalty, and miraculously, I come out in 7th. But no - the guys behind hit me at the next corner 4 - I hit the left apex, really tight. But the dude behind decided not to brake. Well I was his brake. I am then 12th. That's likely last place. These guys down the back may be A drivers, but they are angry and beserk. I come 9th.

I loose 800 DR, and my SR takes a bit of a hit - from S level and 92, down to C level and 49 SR.

Then I go to a lower grade of drivers. The guy in front is a D driver with an E rating, his qualifying is 1:38.1. But he runs wide on lap 1 at corner 4, and next lap while he takes his half second, I pass him. He then goes beserk ... and rams me wide at corner six. I took some dirt ... I track around and he hits me at the end of the main straight. I let him go and he beats me by over a second. But he's disqualified I guess - I win the race. But my SR - its now freaking 39. I am likely punished and down graded. There's no justice in this game.

but I wasn't downgraded. I then suffer and avoid people at all costs. I let an agro guy through into the lead in a Peugeot. He's faster on the straights ... I sit right behind him at 0.4 to 0.1 seconds, for the rest of the race. He thinks he deserves the win. I di8d gain 8 SR. But not 9 for a clean race?? Next race the Peugeot guys there again. But there's a few cars between him and me. I in clean, the triple award - and that guy thinks everyone should drive like I did behind him ie not try to overtake. He's also suspended from the race. Maybe I did him no favours behind so un-competitive. My SR gain for the bonus SR? Just 6 ... so for some reason, if I get the SR bonus etc.., the game just gives me 6.

Anyway I survived - just. SR is now 51. I need a qualifying of 1:38.1 to enjoy the racing I reckon. Its just too dirty at the moment to be fun, being downgraded when its not your fault is just not fare.

 

[GernKnudly]

Wow, loved both races. Some fair driving there too. Loved your late breaking, the lines and the throttle control. And I loved your competitors.

A very different experience to me. I start 5th or 6th, in an all S, A+ and A field. Driving the Lancer, which is very quick at the first two corners ( a long chicane really). So I am close to the cars in front of me - one of which somehow goes into the left dirt - i guess the guy to his right pushed him. Then there is a car in front of me, quite side ways, on the first straight leading to corner 4. This happened a couple of days ago to me too. How can people loose it on a straight? I swore back then to swerve left and go onto the dirt. But I still don't understand why the cars just sit there in the straight sideways instead of running off the track? Ridiculous. Anyway I turn left heading for the left side of the straight and brake. i still hit the guy. 4 penalty seconds. Then the guy behind me runs into me. Another 4 penalty seconds awarded to me. 8 seconds and a negative SR. No worries about the SR I thought - mine are 92. Next lap I do my penalty, and miraculously, I come out in 7th. But no - the guys behind hit me at the next corner 4 - I hit the left apex, really tight. But the dude behind decided not to brake. Well I was his brake. I am then 12th. That's likely last place. These guys down the back may be A drivers, but they are angry and beserk. I come 9th.

I loose 800 DR, and my SR takes a bit of a hit - from S level and 92, down to C level and 49 SR.

Then I go to a lower grade of drivers. The guy in front is a D driver with an E rating, his qualifying is 1:38.1. But he runs wide on lap 1 at corner 4, and next lap while he takes his half second, I pass him. He then goes beserk ... and rams me wide at corner six. I took some dirt ... I track around and he hits me at the end of the main straight. I let him go and he beats me by over a second. But he's disqualified I guess - I win the race. But my SR - its now freaking 39. I am likely punished and down graded. There's no justice in this game.

but I wasn't downgraded. I then suffer and avoid people at all costs. I let an agro guy through into the lead in a Peugeot. He's faster on the straights ... I sit right behind him at 0.4 to 0.1 seconds, for the rest of the race. He thinks he deserves the win. I di8d gain 8 SR. But not 9 for a clean race?? Next race the Peugeot guys there again. But there's a few cars between him and me. I in clean, the triple award - and that guy thinks everyone should drive like I did behind him ie not try to overtake. He's also suspended from the race. Maybe I did him no favours behind so un-competitive. My SR gain for the bonus SR? Just 6 ... so for some reason, if I get the SR bonus etc.., the game just gives me 6.

Anyway I survived - just. SR is now 51. I need a qualifying of 1:38.1 to enjoy the racing I reckon. Its just too dirty at the moment to be fun, being downgraded when its not your fault is just not fare.

Yes, these are unfortunate things. My advice is that to spend more time with putting a good qualification lap, sometimes it takes hours, but it worths it, especially when the difference between drivers are so small like this case. On the other hand, if you are afraid of your SR, go on daily C race instead of B. On endurance races there are less fights due to the importance of strategy, you can increase SR efficiently and safely.

 

[05XR8]

Using the FR V8 only contingent.

Lost touch with the winning Beetle, as the Leader in a Viper was too gung ho, bumped me while on worn tyres and it finished 3rd.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Wow, loved both races. Some fair driving there too. Loved your late breaking, the lines and the throttle control. And I loved your competitors.

A very different experience to me. I start 5th or 6th, in an all S, A+ and A field. Driving the Lancer, which is very quick at the first two corners ( a long chicane really). So I am close to the cars in front of me - one of which somehow goes into the left dirt - i guess the guy to his right pushed him. Then there is a car in front of me, quite side ways, on the first straight leading to corner 4. This happened a couple of days ago to me too. How can people loose it on a straight? I swore back then to swerve left and go onto the dirt. But I still don't understand why the cars just sit there in the straight sideways instead of running off the track? Ridiculous. Anyway I turn left heading for the left side of the straight and brake. i still hit the guy. 4 penalty seconds. Then the guy behind me runs into me. Another 4 penalty seconds awarded to me. 8 seconds and a negative SR. No worries about the SR I thought - mine are 92. Next lap I do my penalty, and miraculously, I come out in 7th. But no - the guys behind hit me at the next corner 4 - I hit the left apex, really tight. But the dude behind decided not to brake. Well I was his brake. I am then 12th. That's likely last place. These guys down the back may be A drivers, but they are angry and beserk. I come 9th.

I loose 800 DR, and my SR takes a bit of a hit - from S level and 92, down to C level and 49 SR.

Then I go to a lower grade of drivers. The guy in front is a D driver with an E rating, his qualifying is 1:38.1. But he runs wide on lap 1 at corner 4, and next lap while he takes his half second, I pass him. He then goes beserk ... and rams me wide at corner six. I took some dirt ... I track around and he hits me at the end of the main straight. I let him go and he beats me by over a second. But he's disqualified I guess - I win the race. But my SR - its now freaking 39. I am likely punished and down graded. There's no justice in this game.

but I wasn't downgraded. I then suffer and avoid people at all costs. I let an agro guy through into the lead in a Peugeot. He's faster on the straights ... I sit right behind him at 0.4 to 0.1 seconds, for the rest of the race. He thinks he deserves the win. I di8d gain 8 SR. But not 9 for a clean race?? Next race the Peugeot guys there again. But there's a few cars between him and me. I in clean, the triple award - and that guy thinks everyone should drive like I did behind him ie not try to overtake. He's also suspended from the race. Maybe I did him no favours behind so un-competitive. My SR gain for the bonus SR? Just 6 ... so for some reason, if I get the SR bonus etc.., the game just gives me 6.

Anyway I survived - just. SR is now 51. I need a qualifying of 1:38.1 to enjoy the racing I reckon. Its just too dirty at the moment to be fun, being downgraded when its not your fault is just not fare.

The lower your SR, the bigger the boost is to the total SR you can get for a race. Hence your SR score went down as your SR went up. From 50 and up it's the standard amount, no more boosts. Race B is worth 6 points from SR 50 and up. Race C is worth 22 points, much easier to restore SR there.

 

[05XR8]

The lower your SR, the bigger the boost is to the total SR you can get for a race. Hence your SR score went down as your SR went up. From 50 and up it's the standard amount, no more boosts. Race B is worth 6 points from SR 50 and up. Race C is worth 22 points, much easier to restore SR there.

That's true. I'm getting hit from behind all the time with orange arrows. Down to A/A and A/B. I jump in one Race C and I'm up to A/S.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Nevillenobody - I don't get why you don't spend some time qualifying at the beginning of the week. With better qualifying IMO your SR would go up and you'd be a constant "A" driver. Being just a couple of places further up the grid also means you'd suffer less SR damage plus also you'd get higher DR scores. You'd be 35,000 in no time IMO and a constant A. And if for the last few weeks if you were 65 SR you'd have been A all that time I think. Maybe go to race A at the end of every night and do a couple of low point scoring races and get your SR up to 65. Not sure if this works by the way, but it sounds a good idea to me ... surely we would not loose many DR in focusing on SR gains in race As???

I qualify, my pace is my pace. On Monday i ran a 39.8 and whittled it down to a 39.5 by last night but that's as fast as i can go. i am using the pad and AT so constrained by my own inability to learn. That's fine, i am Ok being a high B so long as the racing is good. What qualifies as DR-A anyway? I am on 32,000 points for the first time so must be close?

I am done for the week and next week looks meh, maybe race A but b and C hold no interest.

 

[JoeyLeonine]

Tried 'Lagos in the Vette. Felt like a bus to me, we didn't click. Jumped back in the Megane but didn't take the time to adjust back. Had a wreck. Lots of apologising post race.

Took a break and came back to try Kyoto. Struggled to be consistent when all I was trying to do was beat my time so jumped into a race. Started P15. 2 drivers quit behind me after the 1st hair pin and everyone else seemed to make a hash of the first track transition. I get distracted by everyone else and it takes me a good couple of corners to get the rhythm back. Finish lap 1 p17/18 wondering what the point is. But as we're crawling through laps 2 and 3 I'm swiftly reminded as I come across spun out car after spun out car. Pick up places left, right and center. I pit lap 4, a couple in front of me pit late on lap 6, and I jump them too.

After all that finish P11/14. Far better and rewarding that rage quitting after lap 1 at the back.

Didn't make a legit side by side pass, but hey, good things come to those who keep it on the tarmac!

Back up to SR/S as well.

 

[El_Beardo]

Yeah, sorry, the disaster race was me. As you say, missed braking mark. Had lost focus because I was still seething over having to serve a 4s penalty from another Beetle driver, who tapped me then cut that same chicane on the previous lap.

Safe to say my DR took a battering tonight, I do love this track but I'm just not very good at it

No worries at all, mate. At least you were nice enough to let me passed, after an honest mistake. Something that can't be said for the previously mentioned German in the Beetle.

I made a few mistakes that let you overtake again, while pushing a little too hard on worn tyres.

I'm starting to like that circuit. But yeah, I'm not great at navigating it, either.

 

[05XR8]

Race C is getting out of hand.Done with it until Next week's races.

Had a try in the SLS from 11/16 starting position. I think this is about right:

May just have a bit of reality fun by only using the Corvette, 458, Vantage, M6 and RSR

 

[Melbourne Park]

...That's fine, i am Ok being a high B so long as the racing is good. What qualifies as DR-A anyway? I am on 32,000 points for the first time so must be close?

I am done for the week and next week looks meh, maybe race A but b and C hold no interest.

As I said - if your SR was 65, you'd be an "A". The benefit though of being a "B" is that if you touch an "A" car, you will not be punished as much as if you are an "A". So keeping your SR is more difficult as an "A". As soon as you get the "A" ie 30,000 DR or more and SR at 65 or more, then you keep your A until you go below 30,000 DR. If you go below I think 36 ASR ie 35 - and I was 36 today - then you are re-set.

I got re-set after returning to racing ... I blamed everyone else. But really, my race craft was also very rusty ie naive. But I almost got re-set again today, due to incidents in the first lap. I hit a guy on a straight and I tried to avoid the car - then I got hit from behind. two 4 second incidents and a huge SR downgrade.

I've wondered what it would be like if instead of having one race, you had two consecutive races. Currently Interlagos is 4 laps. So instead of one 4 lap race, you'd have a 2 lap race, and then straight away a 3 lap race.

In the first race, there is no DR awarded. At the end of the race, the game lines the cars up for the second race. The cars are lined up firstly on the SR scores they received in the first race. And secondly they are lined up on their qualifying times. For those that lost SR in the first race, they'd be put at the rear of the field.

I reckon it might clean up the game. The first shorter lap race without DR scores would train people to avoid loosing SR and to maintain self control. Which I reckon is a problem with the game. And I'd probably allow people to quit at the end of the first race without a DR penalty.

 

[gtpierre]

As I said - if your SR was 65, you'd be an "A". The benefit though of being a "B" is that if you touch an "A" car, you will not be punished as much as if you are an "A". So keeping your SR is more difficult as an "A". As soon as you get the "A" ie 30,000 DR or more and SR at 65 or more, then you keep your A until you go below 30,000 DR. If you go below I think 36 ASR ie 35 - and I was 36 today - then you are re-set.

I got re-set after returning to racing ... I blamed everyone else. But really, my race craft was also very rusty ie naive. But I almost got re-set again today, due to incidents in the first lap. I hit a guy on a straight and I tried to avoid the car - then I got hit from behind. two 4 second incidents and a huge SR downgrade.

I've wondered what it would be like if instead of having one race, you had two consecutive races. Currently Interlagos is 4 laps. So instead of one 4 lap race, you'd have a 2 lap race, and then straight away a 3 lap race.

In the first race, there is no DR awarded. At the end of the race, the game lines the cars up for the second race. The cars are lined up firstly on the SR scores they received in the first race. And secondly they are lined up on their qualifying times. For those that lost SR in the first race, they'd be put at the rear of the field.

I reckon it might clean up the game. The first shorter lap race without DR scores would train people to avoid loosing SR and to maintain self control. Which I reckon is a problem with the game. And I'd probably allow people to quit at the end of the first race without a DR penalty.

Are you telling him to purposely keep his SR as low as possible not to get SR- when hitting people ?

That's scummy

 

[weazelgt]

3 times I've quit accidentally, sort of. I set the controller down with 1 lap to go, because I thought the race was over.
And one time I lost about 5 or 6 positions because I slammed on the brakes right before the finish line to scrub my penalty time, and again I miscounted the laps. I'm sure the guys behind me were having a good laugh.

I've also won 2 races because the guy in front of me miscounted the laps. One of them did the stupid handbrake spin across the line (he hit a wall and got a penalty, too). I was definitely laughing at him. He left the post-race chat immediately.

I have now done that twice!

 

[NevilleNobody]

I lost a ton of SR points as i had a half second penalty and thought I was about to serve on the back straight at interlagos and kept my foot in it. I didn't serve it (was due next lap) and I careened into everyone. Stupid but honest mistake.

 

[Gersicer]

C race ... I start mid field with a 2:17.814 Q time and make a few mistakes on first lap (grip is simply horrible on first lap .... ) By turn three I'm in 10th .... It's not quite a good racing day today for me. Not in the groove. But, in the esses, the guy behind decides that it would be a good place to try a pass and manage to barge his way to my left bumping me in the process. End up in the barrier spinning a few times. Race ruined. Trying to catch the field with dirty tires in this race is not an option, not for me anyway ! By the 4th lap my left rear was almost all red. I watched the replay ...the other guy got a 2 seconds penalty for the move. This system is broken ...!

 

[Invisigoth]

Still had a plan to get around to a race report for the last few races... but I just had to post after the half past midnight race for tonight. I went in with the AMG. I had been improving my qualy times with each car, but couldn't quite manage with the AMG. My optimum was 2s faster than my last qualifying car, but I just couldn't string it all together. I started P15/18 on a mixed grid of DR/C and D, but even amongst the Ds I was slow. BTW I qualify on hards because that's what I'll be racing on and I'd rather not have an even bigger difference between race and qualifying handling than there already is !

Race starts ok, there is a bit of mayhem, I get rear ended a few times, but I just do my laps. I must have been unconsciously short shifting to a degree, because when most people pitted, I still had nearly half a tank left. At one stage I was in P4 . That lasted for two corners . I was doing realy good, and then I had a @sturk0167 moment . I'm in P7, running on fumes, and just about to cross the line! Whoooohooo! Awsome.... then I see "Final Lap" come up ... and run out of fuel just after T1 . I pull over onto the grass and continue finishing my lap of shame at 80kp/h . Despite that, I *still* manage to finish P13... 2 positions up from my starting position .

I managed to get out from DR 1 and stay out on day 53 of racing ... day 365... not another day above DR 1 . SR still 99.

 

[sturk0167]

So, the Gr.3 speed tests at Lemans have commenced. I've tested about half the Gr.3 cars, so far. I'm only recording peak speed before the first chicane, because that will be the fastest spot. At this point, there's a 10 mph spread from best to worst. Surprisingly, the car with the highest BoP hp output is the slowest. Of course straightaway speed isn't everything, but at this track it sure is helpful. Hopefully I'll have time tonight to test the rest of them.
More will be revealed later.

*Interesting side note: I drove 55 miles this morning, and got no free car. Maybe because I didn't actually complete a lap. Not sure.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Welp, Friday is supposed to be the cleanest day for racing. So far it seems people have fully adapted to the extra lenient penalties on race C. Last race I pass car cleanly only to get punted off at the next hairpin. The 3 sec penalty doesn't compensate, certainly not since the next guy delivered another punch putting me into the wall. He got 2 seconds. I was back in the backfield getting bumped from behind again until they drove themselves off. Where did clean Friday go. Perhaps it starts later.

 

[tariklehaine]

Man after this week all players who play sport mode will be S sr. Did a bunch of race C but 6 of the 9 races I have been punted of or passed with bumping me aside... this whole S sr for a bunch of players will not be what you hope for brothers...

 

[gthelmi2398]

Yesssss! I got it!

 

[Tea_Leaves]

I've generally had much cleaner races at SR A than S whenever I've dropped down. I assume because people have a cushion at SR S = free ticket to drive dirty without much of a consequence while people at SR A are being more clean in order to move back to SR S. Kind of weird cycle but makes sense to me, at least.

I remember when reaching SR S required a lot more clean races in a row (around the time of Gr.1 at la Sarthe) and it did help, it was more cleaner than today's SR S.

 

[Dairyworker]

So, i have been lost in dirt rally the last few days...

The races for next week look very nice though, i suspect i will do lots of A and B. It would be sweet if the a race was the Porsche

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I've generally had much cleaner races at SR A than S whenever I've dropped down. I assume because people have a cushion at SR S = free ticket to drive dirty without much of a consequence while people at SR A are being more clean in order to move back to SR S. Kind of weird cycle but makes sense to me, at least.

I remember when reaching SR S required a lot more clean races in a row (around the time of Gr.1 at la Sarthe) and it did help, it was more cleaner than today's SR S.

SR.S is too easy to reach, this does not look like a bell curve.

Next week will correct it a bit, 15 SR instead of 22 SR for race C without the cushion of people generally staying on the road while getting bumped, punted or spun around. Autopolis isn't as wide as Kyoto, much easier to go off. Besides that, 2 laps on Sarthe will only be worth 3 SR points, race A might be the go to to restore SR lol.

Clean Friday is officially dead. Not one race without getting rammed off yet. Dives start in T1, bump passes everywhere, chaos in the first few laps. I'm going to try hards x 5, medums x 3 again as my lap times before the pit certainly don't need medium tires. Plus getting punted off in the first few laps damages the tires so much my 4th lap is a lot slower than it would be on hards. 4 laps on hards, then 4 on mediums would probably improve my total time already.

 

[O604]

So, i have been lost in dirt rally the last few days...

Have you tried using the windshield wipers?

I've generally had much cleaner races at SR A than S whenever I've dropped down. I assume because people have a cushion at SR S = free ticket to drive dirty without much of a consequence while people at SR A are being more clean in order to move back to SR S. Kind of weird cycle but makes sense to me, at least.

I remember when reaching SR S required a lot more clean races in a row (around the time of Gr.1 at la Sarthe) and it did help, it was more cleaner than today's SR S.

It's a mind set thing I think.

At SR A or lower you tend to be conscious not only on DR but SR too. At SR S you know your SR can't go up any more so you focus on DR. Add to that the competition gets stiffer as you go up SR. And you get tighter races where more drivers are focused only on position. This is probably by design. It makes sense. The higher the room the harder it is to gain DR. The results can get messy.

Personally I don't think you're supposed to keep your SR maxed all the time. I think you're supposed to race the way you do and let matchmaking do it's thing. That way you race your way and improve your way.

Having said all that. Seeing so many in the SR S level is a good thing. Means the respect level is high. The opposite would be a horrible sign.

 

[Illum_Concept]

SR.S is too easy to reach, this does not look like a bell curve.

Next week will correct it a bit, 15 SR instead of 22 SR for race C without the cushion of people generally staying on the road while getting bumped, punted or spun around. Autopolis isn't as wide as Kyoto, much easier to go off. Besides that, 2 laps on Sarthe will only be worth 3 SR points, race A might be the go to to restore SR lol.

Would we expect a bell curve? A large proportion of players strive to be clean every race, so we could expect the second peak at the top end, not a "normal" distribution. I do agree however that because of this week's race C, it is probably exaggerated......