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Tried Race B, didn't qualify and surprised i was the only player that didn't set up a time as the others already did. Started last.
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T1 seemed quite clean, 1 went off track after that and later traffic fight chaos, luckily this happened


And shoutout to that M3 driver, guts to use that car in Brands Hatch,


Did a couple of races with the M3 around Brands. It's a lot more rapid than you think; my quickest lap was a 1.25.005. Handles nicely and is good for gaining quite a few places when starting at the rear.

The Z4 is better though. Started at the back in 2 races, finished 5th and 3rd, with a clean race bonus thrown in.
 
I tried out one Race A in the RCZ. QT is 1:53.3 so far which gave me P3 on the starting grid. I was the only RCZ along with one Megane, the rest were TTs and Sciroccos. No love for the RCZ and Megane, I guess.

I got punted T1 although I managed to stay on the track but dropped to P6. I was stuck behind P5 for 1.5 laps. One of those slow and you shall not pass wizards. I collected several SR downs by bumping into him accidentally since he was braking in areas where I didn't expect. Finally passed him at T18 where he started to wobble around like a penguin.

On to L3, I was 4 seconds behind P4 who had one red connection bar so he was teleporting around the track, he had good pace but on the final lap, he collected a track penalty at the T11 tight hairpin somehow. I closed the gap below one second so I finished 4th. Not bad for a Monday race, could had been worse.
 
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Oh yes I quickly tried the TT and then the Megane to do my daily mileage on my accounts. My TT time is rubbish but I got the Megane to a 1:52.8 and .5 is definitely possible for me, it's not rubbish that's for sure, don't just dismiss it straight off.

Will try the other two cars tomorrow. ;)
 
Did some Q-Laps.

In A my fastest lap was with the Mégane since it‘s not understeering as the other cars. Followed by the Scirocco, followed (just .02 s) by the RCZ, followed by the TT. I guess I‘ll try some races with the yellow french cab then.

For C: I don‘t like it. The car feels as if I had a few glasses of wine (which I didn‘t). My best is a 2.07 and I don‘t feel confident in this thing.

For C I tried the Hyundai, the R8 and the Renault. The Renault feels agile but really stable and is not too slow. I guess I will give it a try.
 
I love Brands. Good flow, nice gradients, deceptively technical.

Been far too long since I've been here, though. So, we've got a scruffy 1:24.311. Pretty happy with it for day one. A good second to come off that with rifenment/catching up with the circuit.



Dude (that's actually his name) has been my codriver while qualifying.

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Oh my, the Gr3 Porsche really comes life at Brands, Wow! She’s finally acting like the MR car that she is. This is a lot more fun then I was expecting. :)

She's a lot of fun around here. Pivots very nicely. Little more weight over the front wheels would help through Paddock Hill. But, other than that, it's almost perfect.
 
Gave Race A a shot. It was nasty.

Scirocco. QT 1:54.725. Got me 10th spot. Escaped from Death Race Autopolis after lap 2 from all the pushing and shoving. Hopefully it gets nicer further down the week.
 
She's a lot of fun around here. Pivots very nicely. Little more weight over the front wheels would help through Paddock Hill. But, other than that, it's almost perfect.

I agree, she drives beautifully around this track, you hardly even have to steer. A little lift, a small tap of the brakes and around she goes. I tried -1 BB at first but it was too much, back to 0 now. :)
 
I'm all for punishing dirty drivers but this sounds like taking it a bridge too far. You'll still have those situations where people have been wrongly given penalties (one of those situations being a car losing control in the middle of the track, you're unable avoid them in time, make contact and you're given the penalty if they go off which has happened to me on a number of occasions) or SR downs for situations out of their control (welcome to Monza last week).

Imagine a 1 million Gr.1 car taken away from you because of that. It doesn't seem like the right way to go about it, I think. Also, Race A would be completely exempt from your idea since it's a specially provided car.

It would not be a problem if people drove clean though ... ;)

We all hit people by mistake; I did in my three bad races last night. I hit a very early braking Porsche at the entry to the second corner. He wasn't brake testing, just first lap nervousness I reckon. A green Porsche ... but I pulled over and let him through just after ... of course if he'd totalled it into sand and not recovered, then I could not have done that.

IMO continually crasher drivers treat hitting people as a means to success. So, in order to get more clean racing, that means of success needs to be stamped on IMO.

I was thinking about a comment about a Japanese driver a few days ago, who I described as "Fast". Evidently that driver is back in the game. He starts close to the pole, and crashes those in front out. He's been re-set lots of times. A good Aussie driver here said that he was on the pole, and that guy behind him ... and he let the crasher through - so goodbye to a likely deserved win, and lots of leading lap stats. That should not be the way the game goes I thought. Essentially rewarding the crasher driver.

A "crasher to success" driver would have a correlation between hitting people and passing them. Over a weeks racing, the stats from the game would actually clearly reveal those that crash into people to pass them.

So I'd say, have a ratio of passing people to hitting people. I'd also say - forget the fault issue. A hit is a hit is a hit. The stats would reveal who does it a lot to gain places, over a week of racing.

Maintain the fines and the removal of cars from each race to a crasher. So at the end of the week, then if your overall ratio is OK, you'd get your cars back ... but if not, well, time to buy some more I guess. Eventually skilled crashers would have to adapt their technique and hence "crasher to success" drivers would be removed from the game ...

Sven Jurgens would likely get punished with this system, because he starts from the back and hence he passes lots of cars, so any hit would hurt his stats. However as the game got cleaner then the hits would fall too and the game would be better for everyone, including Sven.
 
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I agree, she drives beautifully around this track, you hardly even have to steer. A little lift, a small tap of the brakes and around she goes. I tried -1 BB at first but it was too much, back to 0 now. :)
Strangely, I’m finding +3 BB to work really well on the 991 round Brands.
 
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There's no mystery. The inside car is always right unless the other goes off. Hence in T2 no penalty, and SR Down for you at 1:36 since you kept a wheel inside track limits. At 1:23 you touch the car ahead where it's still considered corner, which is the only time the car behind gets SR Down. It takes a while to pop up since the game waits for the other car to go off or not.

It was a lot more behaved early morning, I better skip racing for now :lol:
I figured those were the reasons. I should've emphasized the word good, when I said for no good reason. :lol:
 
Only interested in Race B best time I got right now is a 1:24.5xx, which usually starts at 4th or 5th. So far just been using the Beetle and finishing 3rd. I use no assist except ABS. Any car recommendations along with BB settings ?
 
Well, that was eventful. 1:24.311 put me 14th, of 16. Three spins meant I finished 40+ seconds behind the leader, who was already lapping a little under 2 seconds faster than my Q time.

I sense a massive DR drop this week. Unless I can find some serious pace/consistency.

Edit: that Brands fiasco lost me just short of 1000 DR points. Balls.

That, or I take a crack at Suzuka . .
 
I thought the grid glitch was back. Turns out that P2 lagged out at the start. I see P1 move normally. P2 stayed still. Everyone behind P2 stopped and moved at a crawl. P3 and P4 passed and went the normal rolling start speed. By the the time P5 passed, the race started and everyone else was bunched up and got insane speed. Unfortunately I got punted out of T1 because someone never braked.

Again, people with bad connections shouldn’t play online games
 
RCZ had better race pace, for me, than putting together a qualy lap.

Scirocco just sliced through the corners

Megane is a brute. I use 2nd gear starts, no TCS. It's like a GT-R off the line.

TT gets no love from me. Shame. I'd really like to use it, but it's like a sheepeople car. Hopefully, PD give us the S3 TCR at some point.
 
Can not get on with the Red Bull.

Never got on with Suzuka.

I suppose it's time to learn Autopolis, then. I'll switch between this, and Brands, through the week.
 
So I'd say, have a ratio of passing people to hitting people. I'd also say - forget the fault issue. A hit is a hit is a hit. The stats would reveal who does it a lot to gain places, over a week of racing.

I like that idea. Some kind of way to detect trends of a dirty driver over a sample size of X days might not be too hard to implement. At least it would alleviate innocent people or "one-off" punters (sometimes we, or at least I, have that switch inside to retaliate and punt the punter).

Maybe locking them out of daily races for a week or some other kind of cooldown could be another incentive for them to drive clean.
 
Back to the Hatch. The RNG came up with the V12 Vantage
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Best lap of 1:25.199, had a great race with another driver through traffic.

I gave it another go, however it seems the Porsche is the new bully on the track. One bumped me from behind for SR Down, the other pushed my left wheels off track before the last turn in lap 4. I told him not to push people off the track and he simply responded with ? He didn't even notice he did it... The contact indicator needs to be more prominent. A big flashing red border might help, or a big arrow(s) in the middle of the screen, flashing and growing in size in too close proximity to other cars.

Next up, Renault RS.0.1
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Feels like a dud. Best lap was 1:25.277 while drafting another car. It doesn't have much to overtake with. I was doing better on the second attempt yet got SR Down from traffic fighting each other through the druids then got driven off by an Audi. I did get the better lap in the second race but no clean race star.
 
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Started Race A in the Megane, immediately qualified 2nd with a 1:54.4. Tried the Pug since in theory it's got the best top end; started 3rd, 2nd got punted off T1 in a melee, I led most of the way but got passed into the hairpin on Lap 3 and couldn't get back into the lead. Switched to the Scirocco, immediately dropped 6 tenths off my qualifying lap; led green to checkers after another killing spree happened behind me in turn 1. The B/B is a wasteland of sportsmanship, save me.

Trying the 911 at Brands, can anyone explain why this thing is geared for interstellar flight? I barely touched 5th gear on my recon laps. :confused:
 
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Looks like I need to take 1.5/2 seconds off my times at Autopolis, and Brands, to be competitive.

Hot lapping week it is.

Hopefully next weeks races suit me a little more.
 
I like that idea. Some kind of way to detect trends of a dirty driver over a sample size of X days might not be too hard to implement. At least it would alleviate innocent people or "one-off" punters (sometimes we, or at least I, have that switch inside to retaliate and punt the punter).

Maybe locking them out of daily races for a week or some other kind of cooldown could be another incentive for them to drive clean.
I like the money thing as well and also the loosing the car thing. Because I think people who "crash to succeed" would find immediately loosing a car and being fined, a signal of failure, not success. I don't think suspending players is good either. Because ultimately it would damage PD. The more players the better. The game just needs to reward proper behaviour, not reward bad behaviour, which is what it is doing now for the typical "crash to succeed" player. And they are the ones we all discuss week after week. They ruin the fun for most of us here. You know Hamilton would have finished way back at Monaco last weekend if he'd been racing in the GTS environment.
 
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I love Brands. Good flow, nice gradients, deceptively technical.

Been far too long since I've been here, though. So, we've got a scruffy 1:24.311. Pretty happy with it for day one. A good second to come off that with rifenment/catching up with the circuit.



Dude (that's actually his name) has been my codriver while qualifying.

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I had the same type of copilot until he decided that it was fun to add some spice to the races by jumping in my TV table. Not in my team anymore.
 
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