"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Pigems]

I’ve got A down to a 2:00.8 in the 86, Optimal is 0.3 but I can’t put the pieces together just yet.

 

[AUTISTICBOYX]

Ran a few laps on Bathurst tonight in the Lexus and got my Q down to 2.11.4, great car! Should be a solid alternative to those who abhor the FFs!

 

[Melbourne Park]

Yeh I reckon the Lexus would be a competitor, and I want to learn it, it seems a good all round GR.3 car. Especially for fuel consumption I reckon as it has great torque.

My intermittent brake problem is making me a mental mess. The brakes are mostly faulty, but sometimes the brakes don't come on under full throttle. Really weird. I got a 2:13.6 at Bathurst on Monday with the problem, but I was not conscious of it. Probably that lap didn't have the problem; I only did a few laps, 4 per car, tried 4 or 5 cars. Around an hour.

So last night I re-calibrated the brakes once again, I can do it quickly now - and the car is totally different! I thought I fixed them - first lap the Lexus GR.3 car feels quite different. It now cracks into power oversteer - before under full throttle, the brakes were on so no power oversteer at all ... quite interesting really. So of automatic trail braking out but out of the corners. I am much faster in a straight line though without the brakes coming on! 2nd lap a 1:14 flat, lots of time left. Third lap - the brakes are flashing again under full power. 1:15.2.

So now I am driving nervous, wondering about the handling, and I keep seeing out of the corner of my eye the brake light coming on ... but I suspect its not always coming on. Or did they? I'm a real mess mentally - should I just avoid full throttle ?? ... should I use full throttle when I shouldn't like out of The Cutting ?? etc etc etc and add a tightening stomach ...

I did 15 laps and couldn't better 1:15 ... chucking it in now and will take the brakes apart and download the manual. I doubt Bathurst this week, I'm a freaking mess.

 

[Pigems]

Down to 0.699, Optimal is still .375 though. Only .98 outside the top 10 now, that will be tomorrow’s goal. This is such a tough track to string a lap together on, so many odd corners.

 

[RadStewart]

I’ve got A down to a 2:00.8 in the 86, Optimal is 0.3 but I can’t put the pieces together just yet.

That's quick, dude! I'm gonna copy your gear changes. That seems to make a serious difference with oversteer. Good run.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I‘d go even more extreme: On monday you choose a car. That will be your car for the next seven days. Make the best of it.

Would lead to more diverse Rosters and people concentrate on technique instead of the strongest engine.

I doubt it. People would either wait to pick until the meta has been established or practice / race on a separate account to find out. It will turn races even more into one makes, next to make DR mean even less with more alt accounts popping up. Probably the same will happen with qualification per car now I think about it. People will simply stick to one car instead of trying different ones. I'll stick to not qualifying and driving all cars.

@Sven Jurgens, have you heard the rumors about rain being in the next update? I'm picturing you in the catbird seat, waiting for the 19 cars in front of you to go sliding off the track at turn 1 in a heap of twisted metal and smoke, as you cruise by at a nice comfortable pace.

I'm currently trying to get the clean race bonus in the NSX. After the RCZ it feels like driving in the rain. I actually checked if I wasn't driving on heavy wets by mistake The bonus is so sensitive, even the slightest veer off the car into the inside wall at forest elbow, didn't even feel it, SR up arrow gone t the next checkpoint. It's odd, in single player you can get away with a lot of wall bumping (if you do it gently enough) and keep the bonus. BTW NSX is pretty useless at Bathurst, still at the bottom of the pile after 3 races.

Rain would be nice! The races are too short for dynamic weather but will be fun to watch it play out from the back

 

[VincentVendetta]

Well, finally decided to try racing at Bathurst. First race was bumpy, dropped 7 SR on this race alone (92 to 85), but still managed P4. I decided to wait until later today for closer competition (geographically), and just did my second race à 7:10 PM. I actually managed a Clean Race bonus, because I was alone all race. 3rd place was as much as 8 seconds in front of me - and I think someone was punted because I gained 4 seconds in the last sector, and 5th place was almost six seconds back!

So yeah, 4th place, both times, and had the number 11 on that second race. Good times.

 

[Tea_Leaves]

Down on 0.699, Optimal is still .375 though. Only .98 outside the top 10 now, that will be tomorrow’s goal. This is such a tough track to string a lap together on, so many odd corners.

Have you tried the BRZ? I haven't spent much time qualifying but I preferred it over the 86, maybe because it's not a Toyota, for once. I think aliens were equal split last time I looked at leaderboards.

I'm looking to focus some more on Race A given how hopeless I am with Race C (I can't find much flow there, for some reason. Reverse layout just feels awkward to me.)

 

[NevilleNobody]

I have barely played in a month, got home an hr early from work, was about to settle into a quick race and wife comes home early too. Bugger.

 

[Pigems]

That's quick, dude! I'm gonna copy your gear changes. That seems to make a serious difference with oversteer. Good run.

Thanks man, always happy to help. It definitely does help to be in a higher gear through a lot of the corners on Fuji.

Have you tried the BRZ? I haven't spent much time qualifying but I preferred it over the 86, maybe because it's not a Toyota, for once. I think aliens were equal split last time I looked at leaderboards.

I'm looking to focus some more on Race A given how hopeless I am with Race C (I can't find much flow there, for some reason. Reverse layout just feels awkward to me.)

I did try it briefly but it seemed the same to me, so I didn’t bother going back to it.



The info below was given to me tonight by a friend with an Optimal time of 0.1XX, it was quite helpful to me, so hopefully it can help you guys as well.

“Target min speed at key corners
Starting with the most important one,
Last turn
53mph
Turn in by making the car slid a tad to rotate and aim for apex. Get on throttle early and clip the apex at 53mph. Lower than 52 and lose too much time.

Turn 1
41mph
I use -2 BB to reduce the sliding, but want to rotate quickly and on throttle really early. That why I'm trying not to slide the rear around too much, save the rear traction to power up earlier.

Turn 3 Coca cola
83mph
Brake less than you think and clip as much apex as possible. The sharper the angle you can take to clip apex, the sooner you can full throttle without pushing wide.

Turn 4 and 5 , 100R
Full throttle to t4, throttle control to go just a tad out and to help rotate right toward t5 , powering to maintain I believe 85mph while not going out wide like everyone else does.

Get over to right side to brake for hairpin.

Hairpin T6/7
Min 54mph
The quicker you can get to the kurb of the hairpin, at a sharp angle to allow full throttle. Will push you out wide but you will be good. .

T10 Dunlop
75mph at apex
Brake and throttle up early at apex. Take as much kurb as you can. Watch mistah mca video for example of how much you can take. I can still take loads more than I am.

Next right,
Off power earlier than you think and roll to late apex, 57 mph at apex. Power up and take shortest line through the Netz.

Still trying to work on this last sector but I dont go out to wide for the left. Try to rotate quick and grab a bunch of the apex at 49mph. Throttle up and take a bunch of the kurb on the right on exit.

Back to last turn as listed at the start.

Sector times for a 1:59.760 lap
1) 27.672
2) 39.405
3) 52.683

Hope that helps.

Shift points I'm using
59-60mph
85mph
108mph

In addition to above, I think the difference if lines are good, is getting full throttle quicker.”

 

[NevilleNobody]

Turns 11 through 15 are completely pointless.

 

[Pigems]

Turns 11 through 15 are completely pointless.

I’ve tried going straight from 13 to 16 but it didn’t work out very well.

 

[05XR8]

Or just the ability to delete your time.

Yep. Said that in my previous post. It has to be an option. No fun doing 99% of the qualy lap and then exiting, not recording a time.

Decided im gonna try the megane later and thought id make a livery that fits the car..

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My guy Bullet Bill lol. i always see the megane driven like this.

link: https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gts...arLivery/livery/5157052/1/8286628884959494704

Put than on a Hurrymon(Huracan) and it's accurate.

 

[Lancer_R]

Don't get my hopes up. It's probably Suzuka east, Autopolis and Tsukaba.

Meanwhile I'll keep dreaming PD has the creativity for once to make race C an hourly event with 5 laps of N24 GR.3 45 minute race, time in between to qualify before the next attempt. Or 7 laps GR.1, even more fun. Now that's a real race.

Race C one a hour would be great, it would split the skill apart from the point chasers in the to short races. Manufacturers should be held on a different day than nations and made into a hour and half online race where rs rm and rh can be used, races online where we use skill and brains instead of boring lets all go flat out in nine laps and end up crashing races lol if race c was one a hour, n24 can finally have gr4 and i wish pd would hurry up with the nbr audi tt and the wrx nbr car, they are the future of touring cars. Also 45 mins on suzuka in any car class would bring out true driver ratings in those stuck lower down. Its took me months to get to dr a as dr b is full of dash to the end racers and i just end up cruising laughing at them lol. Pd should put n24 gr3 on next week one a hour, it would do well. Adding some real sim racing with more laps is what racing is all about. 2 laps on n24 is not enough. Plus on manufacturers or nations they should use the qualifying time trail as actual qualifying time during entry period to add more laps too. If people moan about the extra laps then racing isnt for them and they can walk away and leave the behind racers with other races. I would love to be matched with top rank in n24 in gr3 for a hour race, clean, fast and i will learn better.

 

[Tea_Leaves]

I decided to jump into the deep end for Race C in the Autech. QT is 1:45.2 which gave me P12/20 on a mixed grid of DRs from A - D. I feel I've got the hang of it somewhat, the missing pieces I can see are coming together.

I ended up no-stopping since my tyres seemed okay when people started to pit around L6/7. I've definitely no-stopped before on far worse. I held P7 throughout the majority of the race, P8 was close on my tail within 0.5 - 1 second most of the time which was kinda scary. I manage to catch up with P6 who began losing momentum so I had to slow down a little. P8 didn't seem to acknowledge a car ahead of me had slowed down, bumped into me and went off the track = 3 seconds for me. Fortunately, that was the only incident besides a few knocks which I can understand, these aren't the easiest of cars to control.

I moved up to P5 since more people started to pit although on the last few laps, tyres seemed to be running out of steam. I dropped places from people who pitted so finished P7. Next I might try pitting or switching from MT/TCS 0 to AT/TCS 2 and see if that's more friendly to my tyres.

I'm amazed I managed to stay on the track, no idea if it's because of being placed in a race situation seemingly eradicated problems I had before or not. Either way, I definitely felt some improvement after.

 

[CodeRedR51]

2 for 2 tonight watching OP Megane's drive away from me. 👍

 

[Oshawa-Joe]

I’ve tried going straight from 13 to 16 but it didn’t work out very well.

You obviously missed the apex. Slow down.

 

[VincentVendetta]

I DID IT! I FU- I FINALLY DID IT!

OH MY GOD!

 

[kjeldsen]

Had another nice race.. was up to 4th and on route to my best race yet, then the mountain hit back...

 

[Groundfish]

Good evening.
Tonight I played the game Gt (blood) Sport on race B again.
First race, I started third in a lower sr s room.
Second and first were talking about fia...They had sub 13 qual in. Lap one all is well when second gets loose and hits a wall garnishing a pen. I slip by down Conrod with a megane on my tail. I did well until getting the A s version of a punt at Murray’s causing me to lose some speed on exit to Hells the first left after the chase (nudged under braking purposely)
Side by side approaching Hells me on outside, we go side by side through but it’s a megane and even though I am inside line to Griffins no chance against the megane he’s getting ahead with the a plus s closely behind running an Aston.
I merge onto his bumper before the braking zone at griffins, the Aston moves up the inside so I get passed.
I am still fine doing well, no bobble or what have you, but the next Aston behind got a baby run and stuck his nose in outside,
near Cutting entry I am INSIDE!
So I hold it together fine not worried at all, he bumps again, but I am in a zone and countersteer and punch it on exit, pulling some gap...










BOOM




PEN two seconds to me. I am like WTF. well guess what if you have someone behind you into the cutting it’s better to be OUTSIDE?
These jerks are gaming the game. Whatever I lift and try to brake check but obviously this guy is a master dirty piece of crud and I mistimed my sideswipe. (I am not a practiced dirty driver, I shouldn’t try to hit people then walls, I SUCK AT IT)

So anyhow he gets by, I had tried to brake check him allowing Megane behind to close, so megane s America (WITH ME WITH A PEN FLASHING MIND YOU). Punts me off the wall under braking trying to go left onto Conrod...LOL I am sopissed at this point...

Like dude your by, or maybe he just lost it following my car instead of the track...I dunno...

So I lose spots under pen down Conrod in seventh...

I catch a megane final lap...So excited I got a run on it by the time we are kinking right approaching the chase, he made a blocking move pre kink, so I cut it and bumped him wide causing him to overshoot into the sand...He didn’t really deserve it....
I catch a 5.5 second, finish up and BANG sr B!

So, I felt bad about the last bit, because he was relatively innocent except for kinda blocking swerving...

Anyhow I am at sr B. Luckily I planned for this potential problem by no qual in for race c.
Turned on line cones markers, busted out the Lexus and gained fifteen spots from last to fourth. This put me at 72 sr so I was down on sr. It’s such a joke to no stop c race. Tires barely wear if you run between 48 and 51 or so.
Had to do one more clean race, like a ninth and now hanging out at almost 90 again....I dunno,
Race B is just too short. I love racing there but that is just too short against people gaming the pen system or just in general being idiots. I can tell I will never play as much as these people and at A S dailies are almost a waste of effort, but FIA races sucked tonight... Lol that’s racing...You play you pay. If you’re gonna be dumb you gotta be tough!

Stay thirsty my friends.

 

[Mistah_MCA]

1:59.981 with the BRZ!!!!

 

[Melbourne Park]

I’ve tried going straight from 13 to 16 but it didn’t work out very well.

It might work better if you try it with the front of the car going first? That's not been my approach though.

Thanks man, always happy to help. It definitely does help to be in a higher gear through a lot of the corners on Fuji.



I did try it briefly but it seemed the same to me, so I didn’t bother going back to it.



The info below was given to me tonight by a friend with an Optimal time of 0.1XX, it was quite helpful to me, so hopefully it can help you guys as well.

“Target min speed at key corners
Starting with the most important one,
Last turn
53mph
Turn in by making the car slid a tad to rotate and aim for apex. Get on throttle early and clip the apex at 53mph. Lower than 52 and lose too much time.

Turn 1
41mph
I use -2 BB to reduce the sliding, but want to rotate quickly and on throttle really early. That why I'm trying not to slide the rear around too much, save the rear traction to power up earlier.

Turn 3 Coca cola
83mph
Brake less than you think and clip as much apex as possible. The sharper the angle you can take to clip apex, the sooner you can full throttle without pushing wide.

Turn 4 and 5 , 100R
Full throttle to t4, throttle control to go just a tad out and to help rotate right toward t5 , powering to maintain I believe 85mph while not going out wide like everyone else does.

Get over to right side to brake for hairpin.

Hairpin T6/7
Min 54mph
The quicker you can get to the kurb of the hairpin, at a sharp angle to allow full throttle. Will push you out wide but you will be good. .

T10 Dunlop
75mph at apex
Brake and throttle up early at apex. Take as much kurb as you can. Watch mistah mca video for example of how much you can take. I can still take loads more than I am.

Next right,
Off power earlier than you think and roll to late apex, 57 mph at apex. Power up and take shortest line through the Netz.

Still trying to work on this last sector but I dont go out to wide for the left. Try to rotate quick and grab a bunch of the apex at 49mph. Throttle up and take a bunch of the kurb on the right on exit.

Back to last turn as listed at the start.

Sector times for a 1:59.760 lap
1) 27.672
2) 39.405
3) 52.683

Hope that helps.

Shift points I'm using
59-60mph
85mph
108mph

In addition to above, I think the difference if lines are good, is getting full throttle quicker.”
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Jeez ... amazing ... could I have this information for the list of the following tracks?

Didn't the head of PD say that they were working on having a "team" approach with the next game? Like - having your own team advising you? Wouldn't it be great if the game had a manager who could explain what the top drivers are doing, on a corner by corner basis like what the genius provided you ... and where you the driver could specifically improve.

 

[Illum_Concept]

These jerks are gaming the game. Whatever I lift and try to brake check but obviously this guy is a master dirty piece of crud and I mistimed my sideswipe. (I am not a practiced dirty driver, I shouldn’t try to hit people then walls, I SUCK AT IT

Had a humerous encounter at Fuji last night. A couple of laps in I had a run down the main straight on the leader and took the inside line to T1. Sadly couldn't hold it completely at the apex and pushed the guy in 1st place wide. My fault but no real problem, we both stayed on track with very little lost momentum and we exit side by side. I delay accelerating to give the place back, then the other fella veers left and drives off track to give me a penalty. Happily, he delayed his dirty tactic too long and rather than give me a pen, he ended up losing a bunch of positions to the train of cars behind. Happy days!!!

 

[AUTISTICBOYX]

1:59.981 with the BRZ!!!!

Congratulations! 2.10 on the mountain next?!

 

[ToddSalad]

Got a win last night with the M4 at Mount Panorama. Seems like a good alternative to the Megane.

 

[05XR8]

The VW is an alternative too.


RAced the player for a few and each one was clean. That's what you want. Struggling with that LAncer though.

People really shouldn't use cars just because everyone else use them. Jeez..
Got smacked around with this crew.

Corvette is good. 261km/h on its own. 270 just catching the tail end of the draft.

 

[NevilleNobody]

I cannot get ANYWHERE near my Megane time in race b with other cars, it's ridiculous. I lose very little across the top and make up a ton from the top of Conrod to Turn 2.

Literally 1.5 seconds faster in race trim than anything else i have tried.

 

[Lancer_R]

The VW is an alternative too.


RAced the player for a few and each one was clean. That's what you want. Struggling with that LAncer though.

People really shouldn't use cars just because everyone else use them. Jeez..
Got smacked around with this crew.

Corvette is good. 261km/h on its own. 270 just catching the tail end of the draft.

I use the lancer. Get it through the first corner your away, i have raced it for ages. Today am trying the tt and gtr, seen a few of them take top half off thr audi tt and megan. Bad thing is on the le sarthe manufacturers the lancer evo and wrx and atenza cant get past 171mph lol in race your constantly slip streaming, short shifting and usually rear ended by someone who dont understand to brake early whilst slipstreaming lol but on top of that its usually the car behind the other car thats behind the other car etc lol i download replays and i think to myself how on earth are some people even in A rank and sr s lol then i end up back in dr b and just race at one set pace.

 

[Groundfish]

I forgot to mention, the megane that I sent to the beach for the swerve block wasn’t totally innocent.
He had an f u sticker on the rear.
Slightly dirty block...plus megane...plus STICKER? lol you’re outta here!

 

[DanSHW]

Dipped back into online racing last night, had some time off after picking up Dirt Rally very cheap in the PS store and spending a couple of weeks hooning around various forests and mountains in VR.

Went for a race B in the Aston, had enough time for two qualifying laps, and spun on both of them (having not driven since the update it seems my old +2 on the BB makes the Aston twitchy) so started near the back in 14th. One of the ones behind me was Svenning, so after I got very out of shape in the esses I let him past. Ran close to a couple of others and made it past as they came off, finished 13th, no clean race star, but no penalties and still at 99SR.

Another couple of qualifying laps got me a more sensible time, but a combination of me not being very good at Bathurst, and still being used to the handling from a different game left me 14th on the grid again. Lap one, the three cars in front of me went into T2 three wide, one hit the wall, one span and ghosted and the other got a big slide on and lost momentum up the hill, meaning I got past all of them and had a nice buffer behind me for a bit. Out-dragged a slophy down the hill (hadn't realised how slow they are!!!). Same guy racing from the back got
past me plus the 458 that spun on the first lap, but due to others falling off I still managed 10th, DR plummeting, but holding 99SR.