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next week:
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Race A
Tsukuba Circuit: 7 Laps 12 Players Car(s): N100 | Specially Provided Car

Race B
Autódromo de Interlagos
5 Laps 16 Players Car(s): GR3 | Car from Garage BoP: On Settings: Fixed Tire: Racing: Hard

Race C
Circuit de la Sarthe
5 Laps 20 Players Car(s): GR1 | Car from Garage BoP: On Settings: Fixed Tire: Racing: Hard DR Limit: None
Conditions
Fuel Cons.: x5 Tire Wear: x11
 
ShiftingGears
Suzuka again. Do you think they intentionally pick tracks because theyre Japanese or do they just think the rest of their fantasy tracks are that bad?
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They intentionally pick Japanese tracks, don't think they can be any doubt at this point. All of them are overused and as a result most of the non-Japanese tracks are underused. Honestly though I'd probably show the same bias to tracks I like if I was in charge of the selection, even if I tried not too. :)

The one thing I don't understand is their love for reverse tracks. Say we have not had that track for a long while in the dailies and it finally appears but then it's the reverse version, why, it's not like the normal (I'm tempted to put correct here) has been used a ton of times, I'd understand it then. :boggled:
 
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Invisigoth
... I decided to no-stop out of desperation not to finish last! I knew the race would time out before I ran out of fuel :p...
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As with the last time this race featured in Race C, this is a no stop race. Stopping loses you about 30 seconds, where as short shifting loses you about 9-10 seconds a lap. The tire wear may as well be non existent, which is a nice change. I mean, hey, if people want to stop, have at it, but know that you need to have about 10 seconds lead at minimum to be able to equal a no stop strategy.

For comparison, I ran a Q time in the Ferrari in practice of 8:19+ (with lots of mistakes mind you). I ran an 8:29+ in the first lap of my race, saving fuel, and I lost a second with a little off track excursion. I ran a second lap at about the same pace because I had a 12 second lead and drove like a little old lady in the second half of the last lap. If I were racing myself, and I tried to go flat out with a stop, I would still finish about 10 seconds behind my "no stop" self.

What's nice about the Nurburgring is that it emphasizes being smooth over being fast (contrary to popular belief). Having a faster car is often more of a burden rather than a boon, because scrubbing off that speed often costs you more time. Use the tow of other cars to pull you around the track and help save fuel, then pass them when they pit.

Or, my personal fav strategy, just camp out on the rear bumper and and feign dives to the inside. Plenty of people get so caught up watching their mirrors that they miss a brake point or apex, giving you not only an easy pass, but a big buffer as well.
 
So I came home, turned on my PS4 and with a very optimistic view on the races served I jumped into my qualifying tries.

Triple embarassement!

11 Laps in Tokyo led to a best of 1:34.
5 Laps in Suzuka with the M4 got me a 2:14
And finally 2 Laps in the Eifel Mountains in the F-Type with a best of backmarker-guaranteeing 8:44.8.

I blame it on being the first day at work after 17 days of paid leave with a sick certificate.

Outlook: no more embarassement possible, room for improvement; lots of improvement.
 
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Invisigoth
When the race timed out I finished not last, lost 1 SR and 800 DR. Had a good run at Bathurst last week so I'm back to visiting DR/C.
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See you soon!

ASH32
The one thing I don't understand is their love for reverse tracks. Say we have not had that track for a long while in the dailies and it finally appears but then it's the reverse version, why, it's not like the normal (I'm tempted to even put correct here) has been used a ton of times, I'd understand it then. :boggled:
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Can you imagine the carnage if they threw in a Goodwood reverse?
 
What are the meta cars for Suzuka this week? What is currently dominating the top 10 lists?

I really like the 4C here but I'm not sure if it's as competitive without tire wear. I will be doing some dailies for the next couple weeks in the absence of FIA :D
 
Tried 1 Race B for daily mileage.

Using the Genesis. QT 2:12.584. Got me 13th spot. Pole was 2:08. something. Car ahead of me starting 12th was 2:10 something. Obviously I'm way off pace. Moved up 3 spots, finished 10th. Lost 30 DR. Mostly clean race. 1 orange warning for a hard brake on the last lap, was lucky not to get hit off.

Spoon is giving me all kind of trouble. Hopefully I can find some time there. I'm guessing I need to shave around 2 seconds of my QT.

Winnie847
What are the meta cars for Suzuka this week? What is currently dominating the top 10 lists?

I really like the 4C here but I'm not sure if it's as competitive without tire wear. I will be doing some dailies for the next couple weeks in the absence of FIA :D
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Currently in Amercias the RC-F.
 
So my first trip to the ring this week went pretty bad, as I expected. It's been a while since I last raced it, I'm super rusty and it shows. It's one of those tracks I think I'd be more consistent on by now but as it turns out, that's far from the case. The positive about it is that I enjoy racing on it even if my DR suffers in the process.

I decided to qualify unlike last time and got 8:39 after one lap. I started 13th with the R8 in a lobby of DR As and Bs. My first mistake was accidentally hitting the side of someone coming out of Haug-Haken and got two seconds. Next blunder was losing control at Aremberg, span out and dropped to last. I managed to catch up to the next driver because he made a mistake and I gained a few more positions because I no-stopped so there's something positive in an otherwise terrible race.

On the second lap, I lost control again around Pflanzgarten but managed to correct myself onto the track. I dropped another place although fortunately, there was an 8 second gap from the driver behind. I didn't cross the finish line in time and finished 13th. If it wasn't for people disconnecting and me no-stopping, I'd had likely finished second from last. :lol: I think you could place me with DR Ds on this track and I'd still struggle.
 
Got my A time down to a 1.29.140 with room for improvement for sure, but i am still having a hard time getting my groove in this car. I am not even sure what my real optimal time should be as i was so frustrated by wall penalties that i would restart every couple laps lol
 
sturk0167
Nurburgring reverse. No qualifying/practice allowed. :lol:
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We used to do this in GT5 and 6 while waiting for races to start i the lobbies. It's actually a nice flowing track in reverse as well.



I'm reading about a lot of mid to high 8:30 Q times for race C. I'm telling ya, if you want to make yourself feel a bit better, the RCZ is the way to go. BB at -2 and it's (imho) the nicest car to drive around this track.
 
Starting working qualies on N24. Best so far was in the RC F with an 8:52, but I took the Aston around once and with a spin and an off I still got an 8:55, so that's probably going to be my car. I'm pretty happy with the times so far- last time Gr3 was on it I did an 8:45 with driving line on. This is my first bout without the line and TCS so it'll be an adventure. Dang that Aston is fast, though!

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Voodoovaj
We used to do this in GT5 and 6 while waiting for races to start i the lobbies. It's actually a nice flowing track in reverse as well.



I'm reading about a lot of mid to high 8:30 Q times for race C. I'm telling ya, if you want to make yourself feel a bit better, the RCZ is the way to go. BB at -2 and it's (imho) the nicest car to drive around this track.
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I like that car, too. Not very many people use it, but it got me my fastest lap at Brands Hatch. It did very well at Yamagiwa/Miyabi reverse, also. What FM do you need to use for 2 laps at N24?
 
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Race b gr4 Suzuka sprint?
Nah.
AMG handles really well got 10.5
Lexus got a 10.2
AMG is easier
These were semi clean laps
If I were gonna do one as a sprint which I won’t since it’ll be rough in gr4
I’d use Lexus
 
Would you guys say that the Bugatti is the King Bowser of GT Sport? How does it handle on the ring? Was thinking of using that car this week just because it's in so many rap songs.
 
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next week:
https://www.kudosprime.com/gts/events.php

Race A
Tsukuba Circuit: 7 Laps 12 Players Car(s): N100 | Specially Provided Car

Race B
Autódromo de Interlagos
5 Laps 16 Players Car(s): GR3 | Car from Garage BoP: On Settings: Fixed Tire: Racing: Hard

Race C
Circuit de la Sarthe
5 Laps 20 Players Car(s): GR1 | Car from Garage BoP: On Settings: Fixed Tire: Racing: Hard DR Limit: None
Conditions
Fuel Cons.: x5 Tire Wear: x11
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Hope La Sarthe race is grid start, rolling start always leave you in awuful places among the chicanes.
 
Sven Jurgens
Le Mans is still another week away, but yup it will full of bumping from behind by the hybrids, both at braking and corner exit. Sarthe has 3 penalty zones to cause more trouble, especially the one at the pit entrance is in a terrible place. Definitely a track you don't want to start mid pack :/

I managed to keep my SR above 90 after qualifying for Bathurst, but that was with avoiding 'dirty hour'. I dropped down to as low as 28 earlier in the week, just 4 races after getting knocked out of SR.S by the faulty penalty system. Once you get down to SR.A it becomes a downward spiral that's almost impossible to get out unless you stop racing. I did 4 clean races on Alsace to reset back to 99 and luckily stayed there.

Everyone has this problem, yet if you are fast enough (and have qualified ofcourse, which I didn't) then you get to start on pole in easy rooms once you leave SR.S. Basically either you run away from the pack or you lose SR.... One bump from behind reduces the max gain to +1, two is SR loss, a contact time penalty can easily cost 10 SR.

A shortcut penalty doesn't cost SR, only the minor gain you might have gotten from that sector. Bathurst is tricky to gain SR even without any car contact. The slightest brush of a wall negates that sector's SR up. And even if you manage that, and the penalty system gets it right when you get punted off, your SR gain is still reduced. I've gotten the clean race bonus and only gained +2 SR (max is 5 on Bathurst this week)

Race C is worth 16 SR, also much easier to get the clean race bonus if you can keep the car on the track :)
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Aye, last week at Alsace I couldn't get a race where other drivers weren't constantly pushing me and each other off, it was frustrating to the max, they were the only ones where I made either a 1 SR gain or stayed flat.
But yeah thanks for the explanation! That explains how clean Bathurst racing got me only flat or +1 at best. For a downward spiral, does the system somehow therefore hold drivers who have fallen down from SR S to a much higher standard and skews how SR is assigned somehow? If not, I can't see how trying to drive as cleanly as possible surrounded by mayhem results in steep falls, when the penalty-getters rise.

Managed to recover a little tonight doing some Race A, the problem as usual with these walled tracks are people making ridiculous moves to cut off a pass or pushing you into the wall. My only penalties tonight were 5s wall penalties caused by the driver behind shunting me into them as I braked and turned in. Had a net modest SR and DR gain overall, although in the last race of the night my DR fell despite improving my position a lot. I was held back by a black Z doing a crazy block move who then got a 2s penalty, but also forced open the gap up to the next position from 0.6s to 5s by doing the block. I guess my DR fell because as a result of this and other such moves, half the people who started behind me finished ahead, just more of the ones starting ahead fell back on penalties. These walled tracks aren't a great idea for Sport mode imho.

As for Gr1 at Le Mans, those penalty zones and chicanes will be interesting....
 
Quick lil practice session round Suzuka in the M4, 10.8 with opt at a 10.3, need more practice and to carry more mid corner speed & earlier acceleration... Need more practice :lol:

Other news is I am potentially getting a T500rs for virtually free this weekend :cool:
 
sturk0167
I like that car, too. Not very many people use it, but it got me my fastest lap at Brands Hatch. It did very well at Yamagiwa/Miyabi reverse, also. What FM do you need to use for 2 laps at N24?
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FM 1

I don't use anything that requires a map change. Don't let it rev high anywhere but the last straight.
 
Scotchboy
Aye, last week at Alsace I couldn't get a race where other drivers weren't constantly pushing me and each other off, it was frustrating to the max, they were the only ones where I made either a 1 SR gain or stayed flat.
But yeah thanks for the explanation! That explains how clean Bathurst racing got me only flat or +1 at best. For a downward spiral, does the system somehow therefore hold drivers who have fallen down from SR S to a much higher standard and skews how SR is assigned somehow? If not, I can't see how trying to drive as cleanly as possible surrounded by mayhem results in steep falls, when the penalty-getters rise.

Managed to recover a little tonight doing some Race A, the problem as usual with these walled tracks are people making ridiculous moves to cut off a pass or pushing you into the wall. My only penalties tonight were 5s wall penalties caused by the driver behind shunting me into them as I braked and turned in. Had a net modest SR and DR gain overall, although in the last race of the night my DR fell despite improving my position a lot. I was held back by a black Z doing a crazy block move who then got a 2s penalty, but also forced open the gap up to the next position from 0.6s to 5s by doing the block. I guess my DR fell because as a result of this and other such moves, half the people who started behind me finished ahead, just more of the ones starting ahead fell back on penalties. These walled tracks aren't a great idea for Sport mode imho.

As for Gr1 at Le Mans, those penalty zones and chicanes will be interesting....
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No, you're not held to a higher standard when you drop out of SR.S, the problem is the traffic gets (even) more unruly once you drop out of SR.S, thus more bumping from behind, which negates any possible SR gains, and a much higher chance of getting more unfair penalties when that bumper tapper scrapes a wall after bumping you.

You are held to higher standards when there is contact with a lower DR driver, which is more common when your SR drops. If you are DR.B and get hit by a DR.C, chances are you get SR Down even when punted off and end up with a wall penalty.
 
First and last attempt at the ring this week. Qualified 8th but as as we were into the ring it was carnage. Cars all over the place, everyone with penalties and after a couple of offs I was soon second to last in 16th. Once I start going off on that track and the tires get dirty I just can’t keep it on the road after that. Disaster.
 
Had an hour this evening before my wife wanted to watch Love Island...

So I went for a few laps around Suzuka... 26 to be accurate... Last time we had Gr.4s at Suzuka I posted a 16.6xx in the 4C and yesterday I got a few training laps in. Managed a 15.5xx. So positive thoughts for QTT proper.

Decided to grab the bull by the horns and take the Hurry-up for a ride. But just because it isn't my first rodeo still doesn't mean I'm any good! Took me 26 laps to get the 13.5xx let alone that 12.4xx opt.

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Still room for improvement apparently! Not really sure its really on though, and to be honest I'm happy to be sub 14.xxx. Suzuka is for racing now I think.

As for the Green Hell... I may take the Aston around tomorrow and see what we can do. If I can get anywhere near 50.xxx we'll see what else we can manage. I still highly doubt it's for me!

But for those about to race/crash&burn. We salute you!
 
Ugh damn it, contact free race, perfect fuel saving, never went off, started 9th, finished 5th, still no clean race bonus. I had to check the footage, got all SR up arrows except the first one. In T1 a car crowded me all the way to the edge of the track. I thought I still had a wheel on the line, never touched him, but no SR up arrow. Do the right thing, still get punished.

Soon to be dubbed the impossible challenge, still on car 1, crappy Dodge Viper.

sturk0167
Thank you. I'm not going to mess with manual shifting on a track that big. I'll try FM2 and see where it's at after the first lap. 👍
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Go MT, you can leave it in the higher gear through many consecutive corners, smooth and save fuel. FM2 won't get you far.
 
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