"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Voodoovaj]

you're telling me he'd feel much better if on top of the 7 second of undeserved penalties he also took a race crippling amount of damage??? how would that fix anything?

The damage argument makes no sense. People don't crash into you because they want to, they do it because they can't control their car. A stronger deterrent doesn't give someone more car control. The video in question is perfect, that SLS lit up the rears by accident not out of malice, the rest was just unavoidable.

100%.

Damage makes perfect sense. In the real world, racing is a percentage game. Someone who can't control their car will get trashed all the time and dive in the DR. If GTS is a sim, rather than an arcade game, then simulate real life. I think it's a no-brainer.

If the game were more "life-like" 99% of the people playing would be unable to play at all. Car control is the difference between the people that play this game and the people who get paid money to race for real.

And people act like contact is always intentional. Most times, it isn't.


The big news from the Catalunya Motogp this past weekend was that former world champion, Jorge Lorenzo, took out his team mates top rivals in one corner. He wrecked the Ducati and both Yamahas when he went too deep into a corner and lost the front.

In the real real or the virtual world, that's how accidents happen. Everyone is trying to get onto the same space of the track as fast as possible. Stuff is going to go wrong when that happens.

 

[Lion-Face]

Thank you all that joined me for my stream, I really appreciate it



Turns out the Ferrari and it's fuel efficiency is pretty good around this combo. Not having to worry about tires, although I feel raw lap pace is difficult to pull out of the car.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

First race this morning. @Voodoovaj is on pole driving the NSX, I start 3rd. In T1 I get bumped from behind into second place. @Voodoovaj gets a clean break, I get SR Down and follow in second. Then at the straight, disconnected, sigh.

The only way to get clean race bonus on this track is to start on pole...

Second attempt, an RC F draft bumps me in a corner, I get SR Down. I brake checked him, got to lower SR to get a clean race.... Good luck @Voodoovaj, I gave you a bit more room from 3rd lol. I quit, back to driving alone until next race starts. I can't stand people bumping and getting SR Down for it.

SR back down to 55 after that, SR.B next to try for a clean race. I'm starting 2nd in front of a M6, will it be another bumper...

Kinda funny how PD's anti brake check penalty system has turned me into a revenge brake checker

3rd attempt, got punted by the M6 in T1, down to 11th. Bumped off again 2 corners later in the unruly backfield. Then had to go wide to avoid a 3rd punt at the hairpin. Clean race attempt ruined again. I completed the race since it was the last I have time for this morning, got punted off by the same M6 again end of lap 1, reported. I still had 6% fuel left in the Huracan finishing 4th so can push it a bit harder on the straights next time. It's another slidy car, no good to evade dive bombs. Perhaps I'll get to start in first later, SR 62 atm, only place where it seems possible to get through T1.

 

[Wavathar]

Are the M6 Walkenhorst and the M Power the same car with different liveries? I saw an old post saying they handle differently but it doesn't make sense.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Anything under gr2 and nurburgring is dead to me, at least for dailies, I'll put up with it on fia because, well, fia. See you next week. I hate gr4 so much. Garbage cars.

(I know it's me that sucks, let me rage anyways)

Burn all gr4 to ashes.

Boo.

 

[Dairyworker]

Barely any time to run laps yesterday. I can get an optimal of as low as 1.28.5xx but still can't actually get under a 29.... did a best lap of 28.563 in the second race though, so now i have a ghost to chase

Two A races this morning and so far so good. After a few weeks off i only recognize one name in the second race and none in the first. Actually there was another name in the second race i feel like is f4om here but i have the memory of a 40yo pot head so, yeah..... lol

 

[ASH32]

Are the M6 Walkenhorst and the M Power the same car with different liveries? I saw an old post saying they handle differently but it doesn't make sense.

As far as I know in Gt Sport they are different and handle differently, with the Walkenhorst being better, unless the recent update changed this. I can't remember who posted this but it was more than one person and it was people who should know what they were talking about.

I've not driven these cars much myself though, so I never really looked into it, which is probably the easiest and best way to find out.

 

[JoeyLeonine]

As far as I know in Gt Sport they are different and handle differently, with the Walkenhorst being better, unless the recent update changed this. I can't remember who posted this but it was more than one person and it was people who should know what they were talking about.

I've not driven these cars much myself though, so I never really looked into it, which is probably the easiest and best way to find out.

It would make sense. You wouldn't expect two different teams to set their cars up exactly the same.

 

[MaxAttack]

Gonna be playing Monster Hunter for a bit, fighting Arch Tempered Nergigante might genuinely be easier than gaining SR this week.

 

[Invisigoth]

Nother dodgy quick report. Green Hell. M3. Not enough time to set quali so time set by 'vette. P5/17. First lap spun off. Down to P17. Short shifting. M3 motors. Screwed up a few times. 12s in penalties on the main strait after Dottinger Hohe. No stop. 2nd lap tank reads half full down Quiddelbacher Hohe. Make up places. Run off track by not loosing enough speed. Loose places. Finished P13. Disappointed. SR down 5, DR down 500. Still DR/C... barely. M3 good... Invisigoth.... worthless .

 

[CodeRedR51]

Genesis is so comfy, particularly around the ring. Dat 2nd gear Dorifto Modeu tho. People are gonna realise eventually how nice that car can be to drive.

We're growing in power...

I made the mistake of joining right away last night without practice and made a fool of myself with some finishes outside the top 10 while I got used to the car again, but once I had it down it was great. Running BB +2 to help with trail braking. Car still is an understeer monster, takes some patience.

 

[sturk0167]

The last couple days, I've been working on a new type of livery that I haven't attempted to do yet (barn find). Stupidly, I chose a car that probably will never be usable in a daily race. So time consuming. I think I'm up to about 90-100 layers and 4 hours of time, so far. I've probably got at least a few more hours to go. There's probably a faster way of doing it, but I'm a livery novice. Learning as I go.

Up to 137 layers, now. I keep getting new ideas, as I go. Not sure if I'll ever feel like it's done. How long is too long to spend on a single livery?

 

[Voodoovaj]

First race this morning. @Voodoovaj is on pole driving the NSX, I start 3rd. In T1 I get bumped from behind into second place. @Voodoovaj gets a clean break, I get SR Down and follow in second. Then at the straight, disconnected, sigh.

I saw that. Soooo sucky


I won BTW

The only way to get clean race bonus on this track is to start on pole...

Not true. You have to run away at the beginning to avoid first corner tangles and such, but once you are out of the infield, you can play follow the leader. I've done that a few times. As long as their pace is fast enough that you can get away as a pack, it works. At about 75% race distance, the real racing starts and you quickly find out if you can hang or not.

I've had a few clean race bonuses from 5th position up. It's really a matter of the company you keep.

There was a bunch of SR A and even an SR B in those races this morning.

Second attempt, an RC F draft bumps me in a corner, I get SR Down. I brake checked him, got to lower SR to get a clean race.... Good luck @Voodoovaj, I gave you a bit more room from 3rd lol. I quit, back to driving alone until next race starts. I can't stand people bumping and getting SR Down for it.

I watched the replay on this one to see what happened. IMHO, the clean race bonus isn't all that important. You were well ahead of him when you brake checked. If it were me, I would have just kept on going to get the DR points and money.


I won that one too BTW

SR back down to 55 after that, SR.B next to try for a clean race. I'm starting 2nd in front of a M6, will it be another bumper...

Kinda funny how PD's anti brake check penalty system has turned me into a revenge brake checker

3rd attempt, got punted by the M6 in T1, down to 11th. Bumped off again 2 corners later in the unruly backfield. Then had to go wide to avoid a 3rd punt at the hairpin. Clean race attempt ruined again. I completed the race since it was the last I have time for this morning, got punted off by the same M6 again end of lap 1, reported. I still had 6% fuel left in the Huracan finishing 4th so can push it a bit harder on the straights next time. It's another slidy car, no good to evade dive bombs. Perhaps I'll get to start in first later, SR 62 atm, only place where it seems possible to get through T1.

The Huracan is really good. I run it at 0 BB. You have to be aware that the downshifts make it loose. You can dial in a -1 if you want to get a little extra rear grip, but ore than that and it causes too much understeer. If you use the torque, you can run map 1.

I did my fastest race in the Huracan at 16:55

 

[Dairyworker]

Up to 137 layers, now. I keep getting new ideas, as I go. Not sure I'll ever feel like it's done. How long is too long to spend on a single livery?

This is honestly a big part of why i do not do my own liveries. As the editors got better i noticed how much time i was spending in there and not driving or racing depending on the game...

Had a bunch of good races this morning in Tokyo. Had a yung_turismo is every race and some amazing racing with him, very close and hard but clean. Just trying to bag a 28.xxx before work now.

 

[sturk0167]

This is honestly a big part of why i do not do my own liveries. As the editors got better i noticed how much time i was spending in there and not driving or racing depending on the game...

Had a bunch of good races this morning in Tokyo. Had a yung_turismo is every race and some amazing racing with him, very close and hard but clean. Just trying to bag a 28.xxx before work now.

It's mainly because I hate all 3 races, this week. 👍

 

[Dairyworker]

That feeling of beating your goal and instantly feeling defeated by having a new one.... i guess thats like "moving the goal posts" eh?

And now i need to get under .5 damnit!

 

[Veinz]

Both Lexus GR3 cars are very good at N24. If you short shift for most of the race, you won’t need to stop. No need to change fuel modes, that’s too much of a disadvantage imo.

 

[Pigems]

That feeling of beating your goal and instantly feeling defeated by having a new one.... i guess thats like "moving the goal posts" eh?

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And now i need to get under .5 damnit!

Naw dude, you scored!! You just gotta pull the puck out of the net and head back up ice towards the other net now.

Nice Lap! Looks like I’ve got some work to do tonight.

 

[NevilleNobody]

I just have no pace around the ring, cannot remember the turns so I am too cautious, throw in one mistake per lap and I am well over 9 minutes. Being pasted in races except for the folks that continually fall off or have to pit.

I'm too old to remember so many corners.

 

[Vegard]

I just have no pace around the ring, cannot remember the turns so I am too cautious, throw in one mistake per lap and I am well over 9 minutes. Being pasted in races except for the folks that continually fall off or have to pit.

I'm too old to remember so many corners.

It takes a while to get back in the rhythm. I struggled all Monday and I'm still 4-5 seconds slower* per lap than last N24 event.

*on average

 

[kjeldsen]

Bad news.. back into DR B (and SR B) usually happens with the Ring, oh well i can live with it for a week.

 

[Scotchboy]

Managed to salvage and gain a measly 2 SR across 2 Race C today. Always start mid-pack cos my singular qualifying lap was not great (7:56 while being mega cautious and fiddling with settings through the first GP section).
Race 1, I screwed up fuel management so had to pit, which took a bizarrely long time to start. It was a race full of dirty drivers though and I got a 1s penalty because in a narrow section the one behind decided to try overtake on the outside on exit when there was no space to at all, and I had no hope of leaving room. They hit my back outside corner then sent themselves into the wall. Otherwise was stuck mostly behind a weaving Atenza that slowed the whole backmarking pack down. I finished 16th.
Race 2, fuel management was on point (Supra, mixture of FM3/4), started in 13th but began lap 2 in 4th... until the transition from the GP course to Nordschleife, the Atenza behind hit me from behind in the braking zone and sent me off, I recovered and the Atenza tangled with the cars that were then behind it, as it crawled through the start of the next section. They got past, so I was next. Got past cleanly, got rammed off at the next corner and got stuck facing the wrong way. Fell to 12th. I ended up 6th purely by cleanly racing the rest of the lap. Worked up to 10th, then passed everyone still suffering penalties (my Atenza nemesis had travelled quite far along the straight being penalised and still had over 10s left when I passed them, so must've racked up at least 20s), which took me to 7th. Another car had an off at the last corner, and the no-pitstop German Atenza I'd been alongside for the straight ran out of fuel so had to coast to the finish.
Not bad, but I probably would've had a podium finish if that initial Atenza hadn't rammed me off twice at the start of lap 2. For all my troubles, I gained 2 SR and I mostly reversed my 900 DR loss from race 1 by gaining 700 DR in race 2.
Genuinely don't think any of the tracks/matches I've had this week are any good for my DR or SR. I'm at the same SR as at the start of the week (modest gains & flats or steep drops are the markers) and in terms of DR I'm down 1000 overall even with an initial rise of 600 amongst. I just keep getting matched with aggressive and ramming drivers.
Tomorrow is my last opportunity to race this week's events anyway!

 

[Voodoovaj]

This is honestly a big part of why i do not do my own liveries. As the editors got better i noticed how much time i was spending in there and not driving or racing depending on the game...

Had a bunch of good races this morning in Tokyo. Had a yung_turismo is every race and some amazing racing with him, very close and hard but clean. Just trying to bag a 28.xxx before work now.

It's a different activity though. There's times when I don't want to race. I just want to do liveries.

It's mostly when I get a new GR3 car now, but I have a few GR4's waiting for a spark of inspiration. I have downloaded some liveries, but I am currently only using my own. So, if anyone sees a livery in any of my race pics, it's most likely in my gallery. If not, let me know and I will share it.

 

[Pigems]

It's a different activity though. There's times when I don't want to race. I just want to do liveries.

It's mostly when I get a new GR3 car now, but I have a few GR4's waiting for a spark of inspiration. I have downloaded some liveries, but I am currently only using my own. So, if anyone sees a livery in any of my race pics, it's most likely in my gallery. If not, let me know and I will share it.

I’ll be honest, I didn’t like the LE at all when I first got the game, i just didn’t get the concept. I ran straight black cars for months because of it. But now that finally I’ve taken the time to figure out(for the most part) how it works, I enjoy using it and spending time doing up cars, I even mostly use my own liveries now, though I do steel most of the stickers, I don’t have the computer skills to make my own stickers yet. Someday maybe.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Not true. You have to run away at the beginning to avoid first corner tangles and such, but once you are out of the infield, you can play follow the leader. I've done that a few times. As long as their pace is fast enough that you can get away as a pack, it works. At about 75% race distance, the real racing starts and you quickly find out if you can hang or not.

I've had a few clean race bonuses from 5th position up. It's really a matter of the company you keep.

Unfortunately I can't choose who I get matched with although I try I can't run away when starting in 2nd, I was right on first, get punted. Start in 3rd (the first race) following as close as possible to 2nd get bumped by 4th into 2nd. And 3rd race a clean punt. I did get one clean race bonus when starting in the middle, but it's indeed completely dependent on who you are racing with.

I watched the replay on this one to see what happened. IMHO, the clean race bonus isn't all that important. You were well ahead of him when you brake checked. If it were me, I would have just kept on going to get the DR points and money.

I stopped caring about money and DR a long time ago. Yes, I could keep racing and get A+ again with a good car, I've done it before 3 times on this track. But now I've set myself a clean race bonus challenge and once it's gone by someone not able to keep their distance, I might as well go back to qualifying and practice instead of gain DR and SR. That will only ensure me starting further down with more chance to get rubbed while racing.

Sadly it's turning into a 'get a runaway victory' in each car the way it's going, as so far I've only managed one clean race bonus while finishing 7th from 13th. It's the track, people get tunnel vision and bump instead of waiting for an opening. I don't block, I keep to the side in places where it's safe to start a pass, I'll lift to let cars through that started a pass, but 9 out of 10 simply bump into you.

I've tried letting cars through early to draft them. That's seen as a weakness by the next one who will do a dive / barge pass the next corner. If not, the car now in front gets nervous and starts making mistakes so the next car still bumps into me. Perhaps I'll figure it out by the end of the week but for now, racing from the back was far easier to get clean races than starting at the front. Tiny tap from behind and done. People are simply way too aggressive in lap 1. It was the same from the back, but there it was a matter of keeping my distance until Flugplatz, passing all the wrecks along the way, before starting to race.

The Huracan is really good. I run it at 0 BB. You have to be aware that the downshifts make it loose. You can dial in a -1 if you want to get a little extra rear grip, but ore than that and it causes too much understeer. If you use the torque, you can run map 1.

I did my fastest race in the Huracan at 16:55

Nice! Yep I like it too. It's just prone to sliding when you have to make a quick correction for a car screwing up in front. It's great when starting from pole! I did some practice laps in it while qualifying, fuel saving along the way. Probably too much saving as I had a lot left over in the real race I finished.

 

[Mistah_MCA]

I’ll be honest, I didn’t like the LE at all when I first got the game, i just didn’t get the concept. I ran straight black cars for months because of it. But now that finally I’ve taken the time to figure out(for the most part) how it works, I enjoy using it and spending time doing up cars, I even mostly use my own liveries now, though I do steel most of the stickers, I don’t have the computer skills to make my own stickers yet. Someday maybe.

So does this mean you'll be making itasha liveries?

 

[sturk0167]

I do steel most of the stickers, I don’t have the computer skills to make my own stickers yet.

Ha ha. Me too. Maybe tomorrow, when I finally get it finished, I'll put up a pic of what an 8+ hour livery looks like. I'm a little worried that it might suck. I really have no idea, because I've been spending so much time on it, that I can't really see it from an objective viewpoint, anymore. It's weird because when I look at it, all I see is the layers and think about how I pulled off certain effects.

 

[Redsea666]

Ahhhhh, the Nurburgring....

 

[Pigems]

So does this mean you'll be making itasha liveries?

I had to look up what that meant, I had absolutely no clue I haven’t ventured into the cartoon characters yet, maybe someday though.

Ha ha. Me too. Maybe tomorrow, when I finally get it finished, I'll put up a pic of what an 8+ hour livery looks like. I'm a little worried that it might suck. I really have no idea, because I've been spending so much time on it, that I can't really see it from an objective viewpoint, anymore. It's weird because when I look at it, all I see is the layers and think about how I pulled off certain effects.

Sweet! I look forward to seeing the end result.

I’ve only ever gone full bore like that on one car, the one I was gonna use for the 2.4h race that was supposed to be last Sunday but got canceled, it’s a LOT of work, and mine was still pretty basic in the grande scheme of things. I have no clue how people make the extremely intricate ones, it must literally take days for some of them.

This was the car.

 

[JoeyLeonine]

I’ll be honest, I didn’t like the LE at all when I first got the game, i just didn’t get the concept. I ran straight black cars for months because of it. But now that finally I’ve taken the time to figure out(for the most part) how it works, I enjoy using it and spending time doing up cars, I even mostly use my own liveries now, though I do steel most of the stickers, I don’t have the computer skills to make my own stickers yet. Someday maybe.

Custom liveries for me give this game an unexpected but well received RPG element. I get to dress my 'avatar'. Gives my escapism an bit of extra depth. Plus I'm a creative, so I get it!

Ha ha. Me too. Maybe tomorrow, when I finally get it finished, I'll put up a pic of what an 8+ hour livery looks like. I'm a little worried that it might suck. I really have no idea, because I've been spending so much time on it, that I can't really see it from an objective viewpoint, anymore. It's weird because when I look at it, all I see is the layers and think about how I pulled off certain effects.

Post it post it post it post it!

P.s. making your own decals is a proper ballache. And the chances are, what you want has already been made by someone else. So use them.

Sometimes I go through the discovery bit just looking at stickers others have made to get an idea of a branding/colour scheme and inspire a livery.