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FKAustria1911
I just wish there weren't so many people using "fast in - bump into you - slow out" on the Miyabi hairpin, this makes my blood boiling and sometimes divebomb the guy who did it hard, if I had enough of it, I will gladly take SR -10 then...
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This happened to me today on the last lap. I was in first place and finished the race in second.

It’s almost down to luck getting a win in this game. Better to not start on pole because otherwise you are rammed on the first bend of any track and starting any position lower than 5th and you better prepare for a blood bath.

I’m slowly chipping away at the wins and pole position trophies. No rush and hopefully the more time that passes by, the fewer idiots on the tracks!!!
 
cleanLX
I find both the single late apex starting Miyabi and the double apex leaving Miyabi to be very scary places.
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Agreed.

I seem to have better luck, maybe it’s technique, on the entrance to Miyabi. I will usually pick up time on the cars ahead of me. On the exit double apex I lose that time back.
 
TenderLoins
I seem to have better luck, maybe it’s technique, on the entrance to Miyabi. I will usually pick up time on the cars ahead of me. On the exit double apex I lose that time back.
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Funny, I'm the exact opposite, although, admittedly, I seem to be terrible on the brakes... seems like nearly everyone can brake later than me...
I must have the reverse grip bug.. ya, that's it, it's not me... my game is broken :).
 
For me the biggest challenge on Miyabi is the south curve, the fast right at the North is a matter of practice and also allows multiple lines that result in a comparable time. Let it roll in, brake a little before the bend gets sharper and try to stay in in the latter half, altho it doesn‘t matter that much how far in you are. Further in saves metres, but a bit from the outside allows higher speed, with negligible difference in time.
For the double apex you aim to be pretty left at the end of the left (depends on the car, with the Lancer it is dangerous if you go too far over the curbs to the left as as the car then gets unstable when steering to the right).
But the tight right then... it‘s more feeling than strategy I have for that one... especially with the Lancer with ABS off... the funny thing is that I tend to be much faster through here if I screw up the left-right combination before and get onto the grass on the left.... so looks you should come from the far left here, but getting the braking right is very tricky in this one, at least for me....
 
Tassie_tiger
I'm not mad, but yes I find your approach annoying.

You refuse to accept a well known driving technique, and choose to replace it with your own made up terms, suggesting the former doesn't work and yours does.
And then continue to say repeatedly that the former is only for beginners.

You began this by suggesting someone was doing it wrong.
And continue to assert so regardless.

So yes, it's annoying when someone can't simply say that their initial response was a bit short sighted.

I'll leave it to you to have the final remark.
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I dont refuse to accept it, i actually put it to practice allot. I do however like to call it different and use my own terms and i tried to explain why i use them. I'll admit ive been a bit stubborn about that and thats probably why we got tangled up in this. But i think its mostly down to terminology and how we interpret going slow. Other then that we seem to pretty much agree.

And i never ment to say the slow in fast out is a beginners only technique. But it is one of the first things a beginner will get teached. Cause its way easier to teach and learn going fast out of corners then it is going in to corners. You first learn to get the best exits by slowing down on entry, once you master the exits you can move focus to learn to enter the corner faster by using advanced techniques such as trailbraking. Once youve mastered those you'll be fast in fast out as i like to say. Even though you still do slow in fast out for the corner's that need good exit speed you'll do it faster then a beginner who isnt as capable on the brakes and going into the corner. Thats what i meant by it.

I get where the confusion came from, i tried to explain but maybe didnt do the best job at that as well. My fault if i annoyed you, didnt mean to do so.
 
Well, guess I'm off to Suzuka too.
Interlagos is a total mess! (Even though its one of my favorite tracks in GTS)
But people dive-bomb you on every single corner there, its just ridiculous. :scared:
 
Interlago's has a tonne of late apex turns, which begs dive bombing... trouble is those dive bombers often cannot hold the inside, and, the wreck ensues... then, if you defend down the inside, those same dive bombers have had so much success doing so, they have no idea how to follow, brake early, they then punt... then, if you trail brake to let the dive bomber through (and wide), the chap following you punts you from the outside because he's not aware you are avoiding the dive bomber... couple all that with the "fingers" with very short straights after the late apex, which do not allow a long enough full throttle run to make pace back on the dive bomber... the insanity repeats...
Too bad, awesome track, but, few have the patience to race it cleanly... it's maybe the only track where the AI race better than our fellow humans.
I've tried a couple times, and, no thanks... I'm done with racing real people there...

Edit to add: Not saying I'm fast or perfect... but goodness, this track brings out the worst in "us".
 
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cleanLX
Interlago's has a tonne of late apex turns, which begs dive bombing... trouble is those dive bombers often cannot hold the inside, and, the wreck ensues... then, if you defend down the inside, those same dive bombers have had so much success doing so, they have no idea how to follow, brake early, they then punt... then, if you trail brake to let the dive bomber through (and wide), the chap following you punts you from the outside because he's not aware you are avoiding the dive bomber... couple all that with the "fingers" with very short straights after the late apex, which do not allow a long enough full throttle run to make pace back on the dive bomber... the insanity repeats...
Too bad, awesome track, but, few have the patience to race it cleanly... it's maybe the only track where the AI race better than our fellow humans.
I've tried a couple times, and, no thanks... I'm done with racing real people there...

Edit to add: Not saying I'm fast or perfect... but goodness, this track brings out the worst in "us".
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I was just about to ask what pit strat people were using for this race. I was dubious about racing there because of the issues you and @bmxmitch have mentioned. I think I'll stay away from there now lol.
 
Mr616
I was just about to ask what pit strat people were using for this race. I was dubious about racing there because of the issues you and @bmxmitch have mentioned. I think I'll stay away from there now lol.
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Don't let me spoil your fun, @JacksHerer posted a vid where he had a totally clean race... and did not pit FWIW... used a little coasting a short shifting and gained spots too... was a very nice race from him.
 
Yeh I'm in an awkward 'no mans land' at the moment, I'm not fast enough to stay on the back of the group ahead, but fast enough to stay ahead of the group behind if they are battling. My last two sport races have been really lonely.
I don't think I've overtaken a car that was on the track since I got into DR:A :grumpy:
 
Did one Interlagos race today and had a good fight with someone. I didn’t pit but short shifted and let off early if I have a decent gap between the car behind.

Tires were pretty much done by the end but it made it.

I didn’t see any dive bombing but had a couple hit me on the side on the straight when I’m clearly faster and door to door. I don’t mind some contact, it can’t be helped imo. But intentionally trying to ram off the road is not cool
 
As for Interlagos : Racing there's been discussed in a lot of threads and I've actually been a bit unsure to enter the Lancer race yesterday. I don't like that track too much but it sure is challenge, so I gave myself a go for ( believe it or not, my first :) ) 10 races there. Guess I was lucky and it didn't turn out to be a complete mess, probably 'cos the majority of drivers was patient enough to not overtake where overtaking is impossible. Still ... too many incidents to see me there again some time soon :nervous:.
Anyway, thought I'd post my highlight pic, a cool battle with a British driver :

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@FKAustria1911
Nice having met you on Miyabi today, didn't know that you're a new member here 👍.
That's been a perfect description of the race, though I prefer approaching the hairpin in a straight line. It's blood, sweat and tears when I go wide left into the grass :crazy:, and you saw me completely messing up the second race there :lol: ...
Congrats, you had a blistering FL !
 
cleanLX
Don't let me spoil your fun, @JacksHerer posted a vid where he had a totally clean race... and did not pit FWIW... used a little coasting a short shifting and gained spots too... was a very nice race from him.
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After avoiding x2 early dive bombs I had a good 10 lapper finishing 7th with a great battle from 5th through to 10th. Not risking it again though lol.
 
FKAustria1911
@ROCKET JOE Well I am a pretty new member here still :-)
And sorry again for hitting you in that Miyabi race, I‘m getting better at braking without ABS, but still screw it up more often than I would like :-/
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Hey mate, no problem at all ... I know whether someone accidentally hits me or does it on purpose. It's been my first races without ABS due to the Lancer being ridiculously faster, so I also had to fight a bit :lol:. I'm gonna stick to light ABS.
 
For the first time in GTSport I wanted to rage quit today. I was trying to fairly race the GR.3 race at Interlagos while battling for 3rd with two other cars. Suddenly I'm hit out of nowhere by a 4th car (stock livery RSR if anyones interested).
I put it down to lag, but next hairpin same again. Final sharp left before heading onto the pit straight rearended again.
To get out of this situation I follow the leader into the pits, whereby my new friend swerves into the pits just before the wall, clips my car on the way through, spinning me out into the pits.
The game then resets my car on track with an 11 second penalty and a hefty hit to my SR rating!
 
PD needs to make Gr. 3 race C events at Interlagos, Brands Hatch, and Yamagiwa, or pretty much any mid minute circuits (1:20-1:30) to 15 laps.

Not everyone wants to do the abysmal "No Pit Strategy" I actually want to have on fresh tires since we can't change settings.. but it's a little difficult to gain time back because the pit stops take literally 10-15 seconds at some tracks. Like the crew members just stand there doing nothing, and since no one else pits, I'm losing like 20 seconds that I can't get back, even with a flawless line. Then add in the damn slow drivers you have to overtake all over again..

Overall these mini endurance races at the shorter circuits are becoming a joke.. I understand the it's "Strategy" but a person running 2 seconds slower than you the entire race somehow being able to finish 30 seconds ahead of you is nothing short of aggravating.
 
Problem with Interlagos is those arc sections. People think lets dive bomb coz hey we have space not thinking the guy is taking proper line.

They will sway,lose front and rear but will overtake at all cost and the other guy is on the grass.

Few days back i had an epic battle for 5th place,we were neck and neck till lap 5 and then pits happened. The slower cars just didn't want to be overtaken. Shocking nudging and ramming.Finished 12th. Doh.
 
An observation: The weekend is much worse for sportsmanship than mid-week.

Starting in B/S and after a few races and being shunted left, right and centre am back to B/B.

Most infuriating was Interlagos Evo race on Saturday... I moved from 5th to 4th on the last bend, beginning up the hill towards the home straight I moved in to 4th and was gaining on 3rd place, as I move to the outside of the track and begin to pass him he sideswipes me taking us both out... I hit the wall, spin and (fortunately) continue pointing forward to gain 5th place (but get SR down), he finishes 8th. Why give up 3rd place to stop me getting 2nd?

Having checked this guy's DR and SR points on Kudosprime this morning it is baffling! This guy began the weekend on 25136 (B) 81 (S), he then went to 8231 (D) and 12 (D). Madness (and many other much stronger words!)
 
Robben
Having checked this guy's DR and SR points on Kudosprime this morning it is baffling! This guy began the weekend on 25136 (B) 81 (S), he then went to 8231 (D) and 12 (D). Madness (and many other much stronger words!)
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I have the feeling more and more people do this to get their ranks down and race with slower guys again.
Just to get the wins for the milestones!?

You either disconnect to achieve this, or behave like a mad man. :scared:
 
bmxmitch
I have the feeling more and more people do this to get their ranks down and race with slower guys again.
Just to get the wins for the milestones!?

You either disconnect to achieve this, or behave like a mad man. :scared:
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But surely he would do it throughout the race and not just before the finish line when he was sure to get 3rd place??

I think he must be drunk
 
Robben
But surely he would do it throughout the race and not just before the finish line when he was sure to get 3rd place??

I think he must be drunk
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In that case, I call madness :scared::p


Btw, could someone check the daily races? I'm eager to know :O
 
I lost 25 manner points over the weekend due to being bumped, shunted, punted and rammed. So infuriating.
 
After my race with @ROCKET JOE yesterday I switched to the GT3 Interlagos race without setting a qualifying time which put me in P20 on the grid. I then had the best race in GTS in a while with only being forced wide once (by a Porsche...) and being able to finish the race in my Atenza without pitting and barely using any tires on P4. This gave quite a boost to my DR even though I maybe overtook 3 or 4 others on track while the others were just taking themselves off or being forced to pit. I just wish all of the races were like this :O Consistency is the key to good results.
 
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Today's races:

Race A: Northern Isle Speedway :banghead: Daihatsu Copen VGT (10 laps)
Race B: Brands Hatch GP - Gr. 4 (4 laps)
Race C: Mount Panorama - Gr. 3 (10 laps, 4x fuel, 8x tyres)

Not doing the A race, been there, done that, no fun being kicked, rammed and punted by drivers 3 classes below me, who can only follow due to insane draft.

Notable: in the Gr. 3 C race there are at the moment 6 different cars in the top10 qualifying in the Europe region (GT by Citroen, 458 Italia, Viper SRT, V12 Vantage, 911 RSR, M6 - in that order).
 
FKAustria1911
Today's races:

Race A: Northern Isle Speedway :banghead: Daihatsu Copen VGT (10 laps)
Race B: Brands Hatch GP - Gr. 4 (4 laps)
Race C: Mount Panorama - Gr. 3 (10 laps, 4x fuel, 8x tyres)

Not doing the A race, been there, done that, no fun being kicked, rammed and punted by drivers 3 classes below me, who can only follow due to insane draft.
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If I had the time I'd do the A race all day long. Destiny. The Daihatsu VGT is called 'RJ'. So I guess it's especially designed for me :lol:.
 
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