"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Pigems]

I’m going sr hunting.
Tonight’s focus will be getting back to s...
After one race crb bonus sits at 2, still B and B on mr alt.
962 is good fuel map 3:and the going full coming out of the Indianapolis part lap 2.
With caveat, shift at the point on the tach! Any more and fuel burns rapidly...

I went FM1 the entire time, shifting at 50-60% in most cases.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

Did I ever mention that I really like the Toyota?

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Can't say I blame you. If I was A+, I would probably avoid the dailies.
There are some A+ drivers that start an alt account for use in the dailies, because they still have fun doing them, but then before they know it they've got an A+ alt account too, because obviously they're really good. I know of a fella with 3 A+ accounts. He drops by this thread once in a while.

I love that Sven's an A+ driver who doesn't hesitate to choose fun over DR.

You give me too much credit, I can only reach (the bottom of) A+ on the Nordschleife / N24 I'm addicted to overtaking, nailing that clean pass or flying by cars on Sarthe I'm glad I don't have alt accounts, it's time consuming enough to get one to 10K races I also don't have interest in FIA races, too much waiting, qualifying, parading, more waiting.

To be honest, I lose focus when I run out of cars to chase. Hence driving up front is the worst for me. Not that I succumb to any pressure from behind, that actually helps to stay focused. When the gaps to front and back grow I soon get bored and crash

I often say that the races should be longer, but actually they are fine the way they are. The longer the race, the more chance to have no one to race during the middle / end. While doing great from the back at Sardegna last week, the races were pretty boring after lap 3. Sarthe is much better this week since there's always another pesky TS050 to chase! And while it's nice to do an endurance race now and then, it is rare when you get to race someone for more than a few laps and instead turns into watching gap times more often than not.

And of course, complaining about the penalty system is my favorite pass time on here. Which leads to the biggest problem of these recycled dailies, not enough BS penalties to complain about. People are behaving too much

 

[Mistah_MCA]

How much is generally needed for top split?

It varies, mostly by the number of players entering. When I was in the Supra Cup, I got into my first top split race days right after I finally hit A+.
Right now... not sure. I'm at 65k, so I'm always in top split races. My guess right now is high 50k, low 60k DR to most likely get into a top split lobby.

 

[Pigems]

It was more fun to go fast, but I think it was slower overall. I changed tires while I stopped though, I figured I’m there, why not?

Back to the Toyota now.

 

[Groundfish]

Alright, now B A. Actually had a fun race at the last. Great clean driver, funny how you find those as you move up in sr.
Took a .5 though so crb streak gone.
Going in again. Basically, for sr just don’t even race lap 1 haha.
If there’s anyone suspect behind me at start I let them go until the straight.
This race is awesome fun! EDIT dang blue a after that one but no s. Might take 3 more to get 99...

 

[Pigems]

Had a good race in the Toyota, couple good battle along the way too. Going back to the Porsche though, it’s too much fun to catch Hybrids on the straights.

Saw @bdubclub in that one, he finished third. Well done man! Always a pleasure.

 

[Redneckchef]

I got a question for those hitting race C regularly this week. Last night I watched guy starting either 5th or 6th, cut that last tight chicane at the start. Can't remember the positions exactly but I was waiting to see them get a penalty but nothing happened. It was only at the very start of the race and it was the person starting at the front-ish part of it. Just straight through with no penalty. Anyone else seen this? Also had an lm55 cut way inside at the dunlop chicane and use me as a brake to clear it, no penalty for either of us, but I still had the normal SR down. I was straddling the curb there so for them to cut inside they were way off. Am I the only one seeing these weird track cut penalty moments? I know Sarthe is known for sometimes random track limits but this seems a bit off.

 

[manion]

Yeah, I am still iffy on tertre rouge. You did blast by me both times. My consistency seems to be crap in faster races for some reason. Did 2 races this morning where ignoring lap 1 I had 3 laps at 3:29 each race. Switch and put me with A drivers and for some reason I can't brake for the chicane at dunlop right and tank it at indy once each race.

Need more practice. Looking for a way to git gud in honor of @Invisigoth

In the race in gr1 cars especially the group C cars I found braking earlier helped me go faster, I don't get near the brake marker cones especially at the chicanes on the mulsanne I found getting the car set for the second part of the chicane and the exit is way faster than trying to maximise every braking zone. The modern cars are so much better under brakes and trail braking. You make speed in different ways in the different cars and I try to maximise how early I can get on the throttle in the group C cars because that's where their advantage is.

Tetre Rouge is really difficult with the way the track limits are setup. My worst corner is probably mulsanne I find it really hard to get the group C cars stopped. Even with the load cell brake on my pedals

 

[bdubclub]

Had a good race in the Toyota, couple good battle along the way too. Going back to the Porsche though, it’s too much fun to catch Hybrids on the straights.

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Saw @bdubclub in that one, he finished third. Well done man! Always a pleasure.

Good times man, I think I was the only Non Toyota in the top 12. Think I’m going to hop in this next race from the back, let’s see what we can do.

 

[Pigems]

Came across a jerk in that one, he hit me from behind a enough to put me over the curb going onto the first straight and gets a 4s, then as I pass him he rams me into the wall and I somehow get 4s? I’d have run him off if I could have caught him!

One more in the Toyota and then I’m done for the night.

I hope you’re in the next one @bdubclub

 

[Groundfish]

Hmm,
I think it’s possible that they have made it tougher to gain sr back after some shenanigans. I made s now but only just. It’s definitely harder now to change than it was before. I am gonna do Tsukuba next. I took one sr down that last race somehow and gained a big 3 sr. It definitely didn’t used to be this challenging to get back...I hope this is the case anyways. It’s a slog for sure. Edit I get sr down exiting first chicane, I pull over, proceed to get every green sr. Came up just short of finishing. Plus 3 sr. I really hope this is the case.
On my main a race c is like an instant 99. Interesting.

 

[sturk0167]

I got a question for those hitting race C regularly this week. Last night I watched guy starting either 5th or 6th, cut that last tight chicane at the start. Can't remember the positions exactly but I was waiting to see them get a penalty but nothing happened. It was only at the very start of the race and it was the person starting at the front-ish part of it. Just straight through with no penalty. Anyone else seen this? Also had an lm55 cut way inside at the dunlop chicane and use me as a brake to clear it, no penalty for either of us, but I still had the normal SR down. I was straddling the curb there so for them to cut inside they were way off. Am I the only one seeing these weird track cut penalty moments? I know Sarthe is known for sometimes random track limits but this seems a bit off.

The track limits there are notoriously inconsistent. I've been behind cars that definitely should have gotten penalties, and didn't. Dunlop chicane is where I've seen it the most.

 

[Johnnyboy532]

Hammered away at race B today, got punted a few times out of P1. Managed to get my qualify time down to 1:30.34x. I'm trying to crack into the top 500 in America but I don't think it's happening with work. I gave up on the BMW M3 GT, I ran my best time with the SLS AMG '11. Got a few podiums out of the clean races,. I think my new livery went over well lol

 

[Redneckchef]

In the race in gr1 cars especially the group C cars I found braking earlier helped me go faster, I don't get near the brake marker cones especially at the chicanes on the mulsanne I found getting the car set for the second part of the chicane and the exit is way faster than trying to maximise every braking zone. The modern cars are so much better under brakes and trail braking. You make speed in different ways in the different cars and I try to maximise how early I can get on the throttle in the group C cars because that's where their advantage is.

Tetre Rouge is really difficult with the way the track limits are setup. My worst corner is probably mulsanne I find it really hard to get the group C cars stopped. Even with the load cell brake on my pedals

I found the same. I have always had to brake early during the race there. Last time I seemed to figure out a good rhythm that let me nail tertre rouge but this time it really eludes me. Got the chicanes on mulsanne about 90pct sorted. But having problems at dunlop as well, I just seem to slide even when I am braking way early. On the plus side I have mulsanne corner and indy pretty well sorted, manage to hold off the hybrids there pretty consistently. I just have to get consistency with my laps to really improve any.

In the lower lobbies I have had some of the back markers have taken out most of the cones and it leads to wild chaos if you haven't noticed when you get there. On the plus side i bunny hopped thanks to one of those green poles but managed to save it and not lose a spot.

 

[Pigems]

For some reason I completely forgot how to drive on lap 4 in the last race, missed a couple brake points and went wide a couple times. It wasn’t a bad race up until that point.

 

[Groundfish]

Hmm so I am 84 sr and switching games, but it is very interesting to me. I’ve never had a hard time getting 99, but then again I have never ventured into the games back alleys and gone to war either...
I wish I would have screen spotted every result. For the saved screenshots I am at 97 positions gained over ten races no stopping the Porsche. I seriously think though that my ability to gain sr got throttled somehow over the course of these races.
I hope that the game is doing this. Maybe it’s not and I have just never had to slog my way out of this deep of a hole before but man.
The race itself is pretty much a favorite now. Running down hybrids on the straight is awesome. It’s like later bud!
Also A sr is when the Toyota’s start coming out, seems the higher you go the more Toyotas.
Maint comin, calling it for now.
Watching some history of Lemans, I gotta say b b in this game really does get craz like the footage. No seat belts flaming wrecks, wrecked cars on side of the road, gotta try and watch Ford v Ferrari this week. The race at b b is crazy. It’s super fun. Once I started hitting a sr the racers take it easy much more, don’t go flying wide every braking zone.
So with map 3 to lap two combined with shifting at the tach mark, I have been finishing with extra fuel every time. Fuel is not a problem if you don’t rev out. The problem with starting at the back anymore now is it seems impossible to do. There’s always like four cars behind me now, and everyone bogs through that chicane.and spins and slides coming out. Being trapped in the middle is tough. I’ve done it both ways, banzai, and conservative. I think banzai is best really.
One race I just paused game, but that didn’t work out well either, people can’t pass the pause easily and get confused, and I tested it, if you pause too long it will warn you about dq if you don’t unpause.
In the low rooms there’s people pausing every chicane lmao.
It’s definitely good to be back to s sr though. If there is nothing else I have learned is that matchmaking works.
I truly hope that they are making it much harder to recover sr.
I want to use my Nissan real bad, and I think I am getting close to where I can keep it on the track. The Porsche has nice manners,
And brakes excellent on abs weak setting.
You can catch and make the move on the hybrid under braking; I have done it several times now.
Also I think in draft the Porsche could be a weapon, the hybrids walk out on exit, but they can’t seem to break draft. You can be at half throttle if you just wanna hang back. If I qual, my first try will be a hang in behind for 2 laps then flat and try to break draft.
I may qual when I get to 99 I dunno.
This race has so much going for it. @Dairyworker seems to like it.
I’m hooked.
Edit re abs weak, I think if I had pedals with the brake mod, I would set it so when you just feel it touch it’s about 85-90 percent brake. With abs weak full brake slips the tires and squeals them a bit, but if you go less than full on the input at the right amount things get quiet and the tires bite. You slow REAL quick in the Porsche. If you are not banging downshifts all you hear is gear whine. If I had pedals like that I’d find that sweet spot and set it so just when you feel it it’s braking perfect but squeezing some gives 100 percent. I think that would work a treat!

 

[Fremre_rille]

What FM do people use do a nostop in the 962?
So hard racing the 962 with hybrids all over the place punting me in the corners..

 

[kemmac]

Does anybody know what FM1 stands for?

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Haven't been this far down the SR hole since I started out. SR 54...
Finally got my controller issues sorted out, jumped in a race B with an SR A and got pinballed the whole way through.
Decided to go to Sartre to repair and ended up in a SR B lobby that was utter chaos. Got punted off 4 times in L1,then things settled down until I pitted, then I got punted off all over again.
In despair I tried one more, this time in the 962C. Had a real fun and clean race, gained 9 positions and had a blue B at the end.
More today!!

Does anybody know what FM1 stands for?

Fuel map 1.

 

[Pigems]

What FM do people use do a nostop in the 962?
So hard racing the 962 with hybrids all over the place punting me in the corners..

I ran FM1 the whole time while shifting at about 50% of the shift bar.

 

[Doglove]

RBR Gr.3 after update this morning was mega slippery. Even more then it was already. Anyone else experiencend it?

 

[The_Tullster]

RBR Gr.3 after update this morning was mega slippery. Even more then it was already. Anyone else experiencend it?

Did some Q work in a car I hadn't driven yet this time around (Mustang) and it seemed bad, but on going back to the Jag I've been using all week I found that I'm just having an off night... too tired, might as well have had four beers (zwei Maß Bier) for the standard I'm driving at the moment.

 

[250Cal]

Think about buying some Fanatec kit in their Black Friday event but it looks like their offers aren't all that?

 

[Invisigoth]

Did some Q work in a car I hadn't driven yet this time around (Mustang) and it seemed bad, but on going back to the Jag I've been using all week I found that I'm just having an off night... too tired, might as well have had four beers (zwei Maß Bier) for the standard I'm driving at the moment.

< sends @The_Tullster a 5l keg of roggenbock just to be sure >

 

[NoStopN]

Think about buying some Fanatec kit in their Black Friday event but it looks like their offers aren't all that?

I've heard that also, but haven't checked it out for myself. Of course, I don't really need to anymore.

Anyway, first time on GTS all week. Work hours got extended without my prior knowledge & just haven't had the time. Driving the Gr. 1 cars at Le Mans is SO much more fun with the wheel instead of the DS4. Also, the Mazda is much sketchier under braking than I remember. The R92CP is much more stable & feels like a freight train compared to the 787B.

 

[Tea_Leaves]

I think it’s possible that they have made it tougher to gain sr back after some shenanigans.

I'm probably not the best person to explain this but Le Mans has a lower total of SR points to gain per race because of less sectors. If you pick up a track penalty (Le Mans is notorious for that after all) at any sector, a potential SR point is nullified too. Naturally SR down and car penalties have more impact.

I'm not sure on the total possible number of SR points from a race with a CRB but I know it's less than your average Race C. That might explain why it's taking longer to reach SR 99.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Hmm,
I think it’s possible that they have made it tougher to gain sr back after some shenanigans. I made s now but only just. It’s definitely harder now to change than it was before. I am gonna do Tsukuba next. I took one sr down that last race somehow and gained a big 3 sr. It definitely didn’t used to be this challenging to get back...I hope this is the case anyways. It’s a slog for sure. Edit I get sr down exiting first chicane, I pull over, proceed to get every green sr. Came up just short of finishing. Plus 3 sr. I really hope this is the case.
On my main a race c is like an instant 99. Interesting.

Race C is only worth 10 SR this week, last week was 21 SR. One SR Down is 3 SR lost and possible another since you miss the SR up for one sector. That has a bigger impact with 5 laps and long sectors. Any slight touch of a wall or going over the line without a shortcut penalty triggering still negates the SR up for that sector. Plus any contact where the other car gets SR Down still costs you 1 SR.

It's still the same I think, hasn't felt any different so far with SR Downs and surviving a single time penalty. The budget is simply a lot lower this week.

Meanwhile, copying 41% 800 MB update thanks to the cheaters I guess.

What FM do people use do a nostop in the 962?
So hard racing the 962 with hybrids all over the place punting me in the corners..

I ran races all in FM1 first, shifting between 50% and 75% of the bar, sometimes letting 2nd gear go to full for a bit of an early boost.

Then I switched to fm2 for first and last sector. Switch to fm2 just before Indianapolis, switch back to fm1 after Tetre Rouge, and only short shift gear 4 to 5. It works as well but didn't really make a difference on my lap times.

I find I'm faster to splash and dash. The Porsche loses about 2 sec per lap in my hands while short shifting. Pit only takes between 7 and 8 seconds away from your lap times.


Damn update, I started the game at 7:24 for my morning races, looks like I'm missing out on both, 79% copying, 8 minutes before the 2nd race Not gonna make it.

The plan was to give the Jaguar another shot. It was my worst so far, most room for improvement!

Yay, made it, 1 minute 23 seconds to spare. 34 minutes to update GT Sport! Now listed as 100.6 GB. New cars were added, no time to check them out!

Hmm, did the update make GR.C worse. It seems I have to brake even earlier now in the Jaguar and it won't steer at all under heavy braking. Braking into Tetre rouge, Mulsanne and Indianapolis is a lot harder now, plus I already have to start braking at the last arrow on the road for the Porsche curves. Best lap of 3:34 without fuel saving... (3:29 before the update)

I made time for another race, got 3:31.3 on the second lap after adjusting to the changes in handling, then somehow zoned out and pitted twice lol. Topped up to 2 laps again in lap 4. I quit, got to go, too much stuff on my mind with christmas shopping coming up.

 

[Deadpool]

I've heard that also, but haven't checked it out for myself. Of course, I don't really need to anymore.

Anyway, first time on GTS all week. Work hours got extended without my prior knowledge & just haven't had the time. Driving the Gr. 1 cars at Le Mans is SO much more fun with the wheel instead of the DS4. Also, the Mazda is much sketchier under braking than I remember. The R92CP is much more stable & feels like a freight train compared to the 787B.

Yeah I was hoping to see a special on the Podium bases

The V3 pedals have a decent discount though. I’m a bit more a fan of the CSL load cell though, I love how I can fine tune my brake quicker and more to my liking with them.

I can’t race with a DS4 anymore, been using a wheel since GT5 and I can’t go back, I feel useless with a DS4 lol.

 

[Fremre_rille]

I ran races all in FM1 first, shifting between 50% and 75% of the bar, sometimes letting 2nd gear go to full for a bit of an early boost.

Then I switched to fm2 for first and last sector. Switch to fm2 just before Indianapolis, switch back to fm1 after Tetre Rouge, and only short shift gear 4 to 5. It works as well but didn't really make a difference on my lap times.

I find I'm faster to splash and dash. The Porsche loses about 2 sec per lap in my hands while short shifting. Pit only takes between 7 and 8 seconds away from your lap times.

Thanks!