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Since the update Daily Race C now shows under the race rules that there is fuel consumption and tyre wear for qualifying. However that doesn't seem to be true as 30 seconds of spinning my rear tyres shows no tyre wear, and the fuel map isn't available either.

My guess is that this feature is now in the game but won't take effect until next week to save having to wipe this weeks leaderboards.

This could be an interesting change as you can no longer run continuous hotlaps until you eventually hook up a solid lap as you'll need to stop for fresh tyres. This may see a change in who sets faster qualifying laps.

There's also the possibility that there will be a benefit in FIA style fuel burning to lower the weight before attempting a fast lap, stop for tyres and a splash of fuel, repeat.

All a bit of speculation as the feature doesn't seem live yet, but will be interesting to see how it plays out.
 
Apologies if already mentioned but next week's races...

Daily Race A - Alsace (N200 ???)
Daily Race B - Spa One Make (N400 = Toyota Supra '20)
Daily Race C Kyoto Driving Park (Yamagiwa + Miyabi) (Gr 3)

Edit - Race A guess is BRZ v 86?
 
Was racing for two hours in the evening and 2 or 3 more in the morning after the update. The slipstream is indeed weakened, most of the time 1s lead didn't turn into 0.2s after a single straight.
Tire wear on 4С also changed. When previously all my tires were pretty much similarly worn, now both left tires live significantly less than right ones.
 
I didn’t check lap times and entered race C with the Atenza, by the end of the first lap I couldn’t even see the leaders. I finished 60s back with no penalties. DR took a big dump. Whoops.

I went back to race B. First race was a ****show with cars everywhere re-entering the track and giving me a 1s penalty that was impossible to recover from, to make for a second race outside the top 10.

Next race was a rough battle with a punter/flasher. You know the guy who must have his joystick mapped to flashing and is non stop blinking mid corner, then divbombs every corner? Yeah, barely survived that race for a rare win.



You would think that would be enough to get back into a good lobby. Nope, instead I get this cruel joke, basically a 4 lap warm up, how is this even a valid match?

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Finally after that, my last race was somewhat legit except I spotted a few DualShock drivers in the mix, nothing wrong with that if they have clean lines, but it was tough to follow. I at least got a top 10 finish and made a few clean passes.



I can’t seem to get a better qual on race B to improve my DR. I have plateu’d. I tried the 911 for the first time, hated it. Maybe I need to try the R8. I’m growing to like the Merc though, it’s easy to place on the track and a beast through the chicane. I’m at a mid 1:39 and I think I can get a high 1:38 if I string together my best sectors.

I hate Tokyo, and slow FWD combos don’t excite me, so maybe i’ll just take a break the rest of the week.
 
Why can't I ever be so lucky as to get placed in a lobby that I have a chance to win!?! Me: gridded 12th in a lobby where I'm ranked 11th. Improves lap time to within 2% of top time, gets gridded 11th in a lobby of people where I'm ranked 15th. I never seem to get a break, whether I've qualified poorly or whether I put in the work to get a qualifying time that exceeds most of the people with similar DR!
 
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Since the update Daily Race C now shows under the race rules that there is fuel consumption and tyre wear for qualifying. However that doesn't seem to be true as 30 seconds of spinning my rear tyres shows no tyre wear, and the fuel map isn't available either.

My guess is that this feature is now in the game but won't take effect until next week to save having to wipe this weeks leaderboards.

This could be an interesting change as you can no longer run continuous hotlaps until you eventually hook up a solid lap as you'll need to stop for fresh tyres. This may see a change in who sets faster qualifying laps.
There's also the possibility that there will be a benefit in FIA style fuel burning to lower the weight before attempting a fast lap, stop for tyres and a splash of fuel, repeat.

All a bit of speculation as the feature doesn't seem live yet, but will be interesting to see how it plays out.
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Interesting point. When qualifying last week, I noticed that, even with a reset(cold) start, being 4mph down at start/finish, I would only loose .1-.15 off my first sector time. So I guess the question might be...do you start on fresh tires after a reset? Fuel could be a bigger issue, especially if it's true that before we had zero fuel weight, even though the tank reads full. If it's true and we start Q on a full tank then the only way to get YOUR fastest lap would be to burn off all your fuel, then fresh tires and 2 laps of fuel to get 1 hot lap after the pit - out warm up lap. And take it easy on that partial out lap so you don't toast a tire.

The_Tullster
So do I for online racing, but it's surprisingly enjoyable this week.
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Funny, I typically love Tokyo. Some of my top finishes on the boards are Tokyo combos (39th region and around 210 world last week) and I usually race well, too. Got a win and a few podiums last week as a B/S driver in rooms flooded with A and A+ drivers. This week I'm not feeling it. 2 races, starting 3rd on my main in the 86, and starting in back on my alt in the Ferarri. Bumped back to 15th in the first race, and only made it to 15th in the second. Same thing in both. Every time someone came up from behind, they'd hit my bumper in the corner, and I'd slide wide and tag the wall, either loosing speed and getting passed by a line of cars, getting a time penalty, or both. Trying other races today. Might have to give in and try FIM finaly. Don't know how I'll do, or if I'm fast enough to compete, but what the heck, it's only a game, right?
 
UjiOgami15
One solution then, get your Sr down. :p
(i m joking, hate who those that on purpose, but also pretty much true)
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Apparently that’s the trick, one bad race and they gave me two easily winnable races in a row. But the day was an overall loss in DR which isn’t good for FIA points. I pick up the most points in races where i’m dumped at the back of a fast grid and just cruise past the disenfranchised racers. Put me at the front of a slow grid and i’ll probably make mistakes defending.
 
KosmoKazi
Why can't I ever be so lucky as to get placed in a lobby that I have a chance to win!?! Me: gridded 12th in a lobby where I'm ranked 11th. Improves lap time to within 2% of top time, gets gridded 11th in a lobby of people where I'm ranked 15th. I never seem to get a break, whether I've qualified poorly or whether I put in the work to get a qualifying time that exceeds most of the people with similar DR!
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It's not so much luck as playing at the right time or the right SR range. When your SR is between 80 and 89 you have a very high chance of getting in an easy room as grid filler for the left over slowest players in the 90-99 SR range.

Also playing early or very late, much less competition online.

chuyler1
Apparently that’s the trick, one bad race and they gave me two easily winnable races in a row. But the day was an overall loss in DR which isn’t good for FIA points. I pick up the most points in races where i’m dumped at the back of a fast grid and just cruise past the disenfranchised racers. Put me at the front of a slow grid and i’ll probably make mistakes defending.
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So basically you get free points from others crashing in max SR, yet you have to work to earn DR in lower SR.
Seems the second one is actually more fair :)

My DR depends on race length since I never qualify. The longer the race the higher my DR, also a lot from people crashing along the way. My DR also depends on the time of day I race. Less competition in the morning, early afternoon, thus higher finishing positions, thus more DR. In the evening more competition is on, thus lower finishing position and DR goes back down. The DR difference modifier limits it somewhat but the net effect is higher DR in the morning, lower in the evening.
 
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Did they get rid of the green and orange SR indicators mid race?

There also seems to be more ghosting for late dive attempts.
 
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KosmoKazi
Why can't I ever be so lucky as to get placed in a lobby that I have a chance to win!?! Me: gridded 12th in a lobby where I'm ranked 11th. Improves lap time to within 2% of top time, gets gridded 11th in a lobby of people where I'm ranked 15th. I never seem to get a break, whether I've qualified poorly or whether I put in the work to get a qualifying time that exceeds most of the people with similar DR!
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I think I'm at a similar level as you. DR B ranges from about the top 10-5% . Every % is a steeper uphill battle as you go up. And a faster fall down if not prepared.

My only Race B this week. (I actually did another last night but blocked it out.: D)It went OK, started and finished 6th. But I know I need to start higher or the results will be similar.

 
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pumaATTACK
Did they get rid of the green and orange SR indicators mid race?

There also seems to be more ghosting for late dive attempts.
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Nope, SR indicators are definitely still there, at least the orange ones anyway. Had plenty of them at Fuji from people tripping over each other and coming into my path where I can't avoid them.
 
The_Tullster
Race C, P7>P5 in the Toyota 86. That car is on rails, it's real easy to get it around Tokyo without rubbing walls on every turn. It has decent pace too.
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The fake6 did seem to be the META in my races. Tonight I went in with The Tank. Managed to improve my qualy time by a bit. That had me starting P12/17 in a mixed grid with 7 DR/Cs, a couple of Bs and the rest Ds.

I was struggling a bit during the race, and kept copping 1.5s penalties nearly every lap, but more than that, grazing a wall slows you down. I pitted lap 10 for fresh rubber, and found myself P13 behind another Veyron who was actively blocking me :mad:. When I did get along side him, he side swiped me. I was less than impressed. I did have the last laugh though. I crossed the line P13, but finished P9 because of those 20s penalties :lol:.

SR went up 14, DR dropped 13.... I call that a fair exchange :p. 5 more to go to get me back to 99. Thus far Tokyo has been full of surprises. DR/C, the odyssey continues :odd:.
 
chuyler1
Apparently that’s the trick, one bad race and they gave me two easily winnable races in a row. But the day was an overall loss in DR which isn’t good for FIA points. I pick up the most points in races where i’m dumped at the back of a fast grid and just cruise past the disenfranchised racers. Put me at the front of a slow grid and i’ll probably make mistakes defending.
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Yeah, I call losing sr from 99 being placed in timeout.
Often in 99 top rooms there will be some a plus at the top during peak usage, so the way I’ve always looked at it is beating more drivers of your own dr than beat you will yield positive points, provided there aren’t any fast lower dr that beat you.
Losing to even one lower rank takes points away fast.
Often like grid 12-13 finish 10-11 can raise dr.
Lower sr and basically you place your dr at risk, and worst case sr also if you get matched into mayhem.
Also at 99 if the rooms full of like dr even losing places doesn’t take away many points, UNLESS you lose to many lower ranked drivers.
I built up my career basically from dr b onward by NOT crashing myself out, racing fair and avoiding risk. You don’t win many races that way but you do get a lot of experience in race and let’s face it wins vs lower ranks mean nothing, no dr no challenge, rank at risk if you get taken out, that’s just time spent waiting to face better drivers.
It’s timeout...99 is the place to stay, if you can imo this places you against the best the game offers at the time.
Low sr is not racing. It’s mayhem. Personally if I drop to A sr I go full damage control and don’t race my only concern is getting to 99.
It’s not worth it against the incompetent horde. Too risky.
 
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pumaATTACK
Did they get rid of the green and orange SR indicators mid race?
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No, they did not. I've been getting both all evening at Tokyo.

Invisigoth
The fake6 did seem to be the META in my races. Tonight I went in with The Tank. Managed to improve my qualy time by a bit. That had me starting P12/17 in a mixed grid with 7 DR/Cs, a couple of Bs and the rest Ds.
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I've been getting a variety of grids, all SR-S but DR varying from DR-D to DR-A. Had one blocker early in the evening, some dude in a Ferrari, but on the whole it's been a pretty clean evening.
Edit: Also been consistenly getting my best laps on the hard tyres in the second half of the race. Don't bother trying to make the mediums last longer than lap 7 or 8.
 
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O604
My only Race B this week. (I actually did another last night but blocked it out.: D)It went OK, started and finished 6th. But I know I need to start higher or the results will be similar.

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ALWAYS block the inside on L1/T1, doesn’t matter how far back the other cars are, go all the way inside, hug the apex, and start your race at the exit of T1. The second you show any daylight on the inside of the track, if it isn’t the guy behind you that goes for it, it will be the guy 5 cars behind you. Your whole first lap was just inviting drivers to run up on you. Make them think they can take you on the outside, show them the space 1,2 or even 3 car widths of space for them to brake as late as they want, as long as it’s on the outside.
 
You know, I am gonna test the pens system tonight, if diving still gives pens to the fella who doesn’t defend inside I’m goin inside all night!
If that’s what the game wants that’s what I’m going to do.
I’ll be damned if I’m gonna let myself get given pens, I’ll defend inside at all costs and attack it with vigor.
What I don’t do is stop playing and cry like a child that much I can tell you!
 
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I've been mainly doing race c. I did a couple of race A which wasn't too bad. Race B was awful, mainly me not knowing the track, and race C has been the best for me. I have got my SR up to S and my DR is rising. There are still some idiots but it's been okay. I've been using both sets of tyres which boost your position at the end of the race and have been gaining between 5 and 10 positions per race.

Also managed a 1 minute 20 lap in the race which I was pleased with.
 
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chuyler1
ALWAYS block the inside on L1/T1, doesn’t matter how far back the other cars are, go all the way inside, hug the apex, and start your race at the exit of T1. The second you show any daylight on the inside of the track, if it isn’t the guy behind you that goes for it, it will be the guy 5 cars behind you. Your whole first lap was just inviting drivers to run up on you. Make them think they can take you on the outside, show them the space 1,2 or even 3 car widths of space for them to brake as late as they want, as long as it’s on the outside.
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Thanks for the advice.

This was first race of the week. Hopefully I will close those doors as I race more.
 
Danjen22
Race B was awful, mainly me not knowing the track
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Fuji has been in the game for decades! Time to put in some hard time and learn it. Slow is fast on this track, and qualifying lines are very different from pack racing lines. Learn both lines or suffer the wrath of someone sticking their nose where it doesn't belong.
Groundfish
I’ll defend inside at all costs and attack it with vigor.
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Words to race by!
 
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