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chuyler1
it. Slow is fast on this track, and qualifying lines are very different from pack racing lines. Learn both lines or suffer the wrath of someone sticking their nose where it doesn't belong
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This. This. This. Qualifying is 100 percent different than racing.
Well put! I like the way you think.
 
chuyler1
Learn both lines or suffer the wrath of someone sticking their nose where it doesn't belong.

Words to race by!
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It wasn't so much people sticking their nose in but more me just being useless and not braking hard enough for certain corners. It's a track I clearly never played a lot! :lol:
 
chuyler1
Fuji has been in the game for decades! Time to put in some hard time and learn it. Slow is fast on this track, and qualifying lines are very different from pack racing lines. Learn both lines or suffer the wrath of someone sticking their nose where it doesn't belong.

Words to race by!
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Ha! It's funny how the racing line at Fuji is nothing like the curvature of the track. The crazy part is how some drivers are fast enough to make the upper field but they then have 1 random corner that they take as if they learned it from the AI. It's usually 100R, Dunlop, or Netz where people can get weird.
 
As of right now, I’m tied with someone else for being #314 for the qualifying times for Race A in my region. Is that any good? I feel like I struggle a bit with sector 2, but I’m not too sure where. Maybe somewhere between the last two turns of the sector, the hairpin and the “pseudo-hairpin” that comes before the end of the sector.

On the other hand, it feels like I’ve been legitimately qualifying further up the field. Last three races went as follows: qualified P3 and finished P1, qualified P4 and finished P3, qualified P8 and finished P8. My time is something around 1:28.0xx. I felt like if it weren’t for some mistakes I made in that last race, I would’ve finished higher than P8, too.
 
Just had an absolutely insane Race C on EMEA. C/C lobby, so I knew it was gonna be bad, but what happened was nuts.

I actually did a qualy time and started 4th with a 1:20.8xx. Not too bad a grid start, should get away nice and cleanly, as my intention was really to just get my SR back up to a respectable level.

Well, by the end of lap 1, I already had been pushed down to 6th and I counted 4 SR downs with all contact from behind; yup, punish the victim.

By lap 2, and a further 5 SR downs I was rammed into 12th coming into the home straight.

Received a few penalties for being rammed into walls, for being hit by cars bouncing off the walls, even got a penalty from a ghosted car for forcing them off track when they had actually bounced from the left wall, through me and into the right hand wall.

Pitted lap 8 for hards and battled through the field. By the last lap I counted a total of 16 SR down arrows, all from rear taps, side swipes and bouncing cars. I never actually initiated contact to get the SR downs.

Finished 3rd, 12 seconds behind the leaders who never pitted and got the 20 second penalty.

I was sure I would now be demoted to C/D, but somehow managed to escape with a red C. I was the only one to come out of the race with a red rating, which was so funny given the amount of penalties I saw others get, and the raging that was going on.

Went for another Race C. Started 6th this time around. A less eventful race, but still full of idiots trying to overtake on every bit of tarmac. Running in 4th around lap 8, having just pitted, the 3 cars ahead had a lead of about 3/4 of a second, but they all had penalties from 1.5 to 3 seconds. Just managed to get into 1st as they unghosted. Left them to battle it out and got win #19 with a handy 12 second lead, and fastest lap.

My rating went to C/A.
 
BallPtPenTheif
Ha! It's funny how the racing line at Fuji is nothing like the curvature of the track. The crazy part is how some drivers are fast enough to make the upper field but they then have 1 random corner that they take as if they learned it from the AI. It's usually 100R, Dunlop, or Netz where people can get weird.
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Totally! I honestly don't know how they post sub-1:39 qualifying lap times and then spend the whole race running high 1:41 at best. The 911 seems to be popular but I can't run consistently with it, neither can anyone else for that matter. It might be a good qualifying car but you cannot attack the corners unless you slide through them and take everyone out in the process.

The last time I used one of those virtual racing line options in a game it was probably GT4 so I don't know if the game lays down the proper line for this track, but the actual racing line does not match up with any of the curves or run-off spaces and even the qualifying line doesn't use the whole track through areas like Netz and Panasonic. If you run out to the curbing before entry of either of those turns, you're leaving a barn door open for the freight train behind you.

EDIT: Someone was kind enough to drop the perfect racing line down in google maps. It shows how Netz and Panasonic you never make it fully track-out before turn-in. The line through 100R shown will work, but you wouldn't want to leave the inside open during a race.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/F...e48bbc1666ba228!8m2!3d35.368274!4d138.9382515
 
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Hi!
Having been away for quite some time I thought I would test out GTS again.
However, I don’t understand two things which seem to have changed:

1. I finished two races well above my “car number”, and got the congrats/handshake screen with happy music, yet Kudosprime shows my DR going down?

2. is the penalty system worse now than a year ago? It’s a complete ramfest seemingly without any punishments..?

thanks in advance!
 
I got screwed out of a win from pole in an A/A-D/S lobby thanks to some asshole in an Alfa barging past me at the northwestern right sweeper and then penalising me thanks to brake-checking. Please tell me this isn't the new meta.
 
chuyler1
EDIT: Someone was kind enough to drop the perfect racing line down in google maps. It shows how Netz and Panasonic you never make it fully track-out before turn-in. The line through 100R shown will work, but you wouldn't want to leave the inside open during a race.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/F...e48bbc1666ba228!8m2!3d35.368274!4d138.9382515
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Oh wow. I'm hitting Panasonic completely wrong. I'm literally going to the upper edge of the track at the top of the hill before I slide and turn back in. I must be losing tons of speed for the straight there.
 
Man, I am trying to limit the racing a bit but race C is a real mixed bag when you throw in the update and the penalty system. Have had a few good fun races, but also some others.

Had 1 race where a blocker caused mass carnage as he held up everyone from p3 for a few laps. Every pass attempt led to a wall rub or a last second swerve to block. When there were about 6 of us trapped I started to ease off to back out of the pack but one of the blocks got someone a penalty and that set it off. Massive retaliation punt, loads of us caught in it. Still ended up halfway ok at the end of the race.
Have noticed people get desperate and just shove their nose in everywhere even if they cant possibly pass there just to preserve momentum. Often leading to penalties. But with 4 track sectors everyone seems to come out with a blue rating.

Was in a good 3 way race for p4 at the end of my last race when we started getting caught from behind. P4 was an M4 defending well, p7 who caught me didnt want to wait and went inside to put me straight into the wall at the 2nd right handed, the one heading downhill. I get the penalty, drop to p10 and as I am heading into that next turn into the tunnel p11 is catching so I take the inside line all down the straight and go into the turn with no room left inside. Nope, they plow right through me with enough of a blast to spin me around, and I get another penalty. From p6 battling for p4 starting lap 14 to p11.

Someone check out the TT as well. Got 1 guy using it to come from the back last night and seemed to be a real weapon with keeping pace. He was also impatient and putting everyone into walls to get past so that might have helped too.
 
Tried race A on my main account. Qualified with a 27.6 and had @BenRod right behind me. Bad start (tire spin) znd I flew to the back of the pack. Made my way back to 6th (I think?) BenRod smoked me. Decided to try it frim the back, so I switched accounts, and promptly put up a 27.8. I'm an idiot. Had @BenRod in front of me this time, which is where he finished. I got 4th to his 3rd. I gotta wake up!
 
BallPtPenTheif
Oh wow. I'm hitting Panasonic completely wrong. I'm literally going to the upper edge of the track at the top of the hill before I slide and turn back in. I must be losing tons of speed for the straight there.
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If you go wide on entry, you can probably get more speed, but you throw away time by taking the long way around. There are a few lines that are basically all equal, but an early turn in from mid track protects the inside, watch this clip, despite me turning in early on each apex I exit the whole sequence with the same gap, and at the same time I protect the track from the attacking car behind me.

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Foxis
1. I finished two races well above my “car number”, and got the congrats/handshake screen with happy music, yet Kudosprime shows my DR going down?
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Unless your Driver Rating and the DR of everyone in the lobby is B or better, don't put too much stock in your car's door number. It's essentially where your DR ranks among all the drivers in the lobby, but it's alphabetically sorted (so a DR of 2 is sorted higher than a DR of 1,000).

What you want to be doing is finishing at least in the top half (higher is better) and above drivers with a better DR than you (higher is better), because you take DR from the people you beat (more if their DR is higher) and lose it to people who beat you (more if your DR is higher). At DR B (10,000) and higher, the door number is a more reliable indicator of who you want to beat and who you don't want to beat you, but no more than that.
 
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Two races, both B, one squeezed out by. Brazilian", then I tapped a Canadian in Panasonic, so waited and sat behind through his undeserved penalty, p14-p13

Second, started p14, finished p9 after having been buzzed by two Canadians, even though I hugged the inside.
Still both races good fun.
 
RacingGrandpa
Two races, both B, one squeezed out by. Brazilian", then I tapped a Canadian in Panasonic, so waited and sat behind through his undeserved penalty, p14-p13

Second, started p14, finished p9 after having been buzzed by two Canadians, even though I hugged the inside.
Still both races good fun.
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Thought I saw you in one of my races. Fuji's been awfully bumpy for me all week long. It seems to alternate between not all that bad making for a fun race and me yelling at people through the TV so loud that my dogs go hide in the other room.
 
Jumped into a couple races at Fuji. I know tge track, so I figured I'd be okay. Started in my Carona GT-R, just because. I ran a 45.8 with the 1.5 second penalty I got on the 1 full lap I got before the race, which put me 2nd to last, in front of the one no Q in the race. The GT-R on hards at Fuji is not a good combo. Managed to get up to 15th. Next race I hopped in the Viper. I picked it because it gets really good traction, on throttle. I got 3 laps in before the start and put up a 40.2. Good enough for p9 on the mixed A/B grid. Very stable car here on hards. No tendency to get loose on throttle, and if I downshifted too early and pitched it in, it would get sideways, but straightened right out...no drama. Made some passes, took advantage of some errors, and finished 5th with p3 2 car lenghts in front. I gotta say, I liked how stable and unflappable this car was. Good turn in, excellent when trail braking, could mat it in 2nd coming out of Advan with no TCS and no drama(though 3rd might be better at speed). All in all, a very good race weapon. Didn't seem to have enough top end for passing, though, but trail braking and turn in got me a spot going into t1 twice. Maybe tomorrow I'll see what works in qualifying, but the Viper was very reliable for the race.
 
I finally grew into Fuji. There are a few corners that are banked weird or we would all have mastered them by monday night...slow is smooth. smooth is fast. 911 does ok using TCS - 2. It actually helps to stay in the race when people get too aggressive. TCS has kept me from getting spun by reacting to sideswipes. I've also figured out how to get TCS to hold me in a hot corner and then widen my radius for a half second to get TCS to back off quickly. my racing line looks like the tighter turns (TGR, Advan, Turn 13) have 1 and a half apexes but it's a smooth as I can get them at my current skill level.
 
Sorry my South American friend, you should have defended the inside that second to last turn in the mini race.
Don’t you know us northern hemisphere folks like scuba diving?
Lol I won and he got a pen, you can, by aiming stright towards apex braking full choosing the tightest line dole out pens to anyone choosing an out to in line if they touch you in hairpins and you are closer to apex.
I said it and did it. Nine times from ten they’d do it to me. This game loves you to run and hold tight lines in slow turns. Make note of it.
I won that race and forgot to turn tcs to 1 from 3!
Tcs, my dirty little secret. Lmao
 
Yeeahhhh, I started a new game... agiain. Trying the Scirocco in Race C. Went .6 quicker(1:16.971) than the Supra and 86. We'll see how much I fall off during the race.

Edit: Not bad. THe 86 and 4C were holding me up. TYres are sweet between Lap 3-beginning of 6. Pitted for RH end of Lap 7. Ran those for 2 laps and switched back to RM. Way, way quicker. Was catching 10th until first 1/4 of last lap.

A Megane FF that started around top half of the ten, finished in 9th.

An 86 tried to force a doublt pass into the first turn. I mean, come now. THe 86 I was behind, was on worn tyres. I'm on fresh RH and the 86 behind m is on Fresh RM. THey soon found out it wouldn't work. BUmps into the 86 ahead of me, hits the right side wall and gets 1.5 seconds.

HAd a nice battle for 6th in an 86 sandwich . We all stayed patient, as the Megane was just ahead. Start of Lap 6, aerowash got me on entry to the back straight before the PZ. Tyres fell off from there. CAn probably make a two-stop work, by starting on RH for one lap.
 
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I finally tried taking the 86 out for a run and man, it is slightly faster and more stable than the 4C, with similar tire wear. Was able to drop my QT to 17.1 with just a couple of laps. Might look at playing around to get better later. But wow that thing is more stable under.braking and acceleration than the 4C, and can take a bump and keep going. No wonder it is getting META. Again saw a TT tearing it up, and again it involved bad idea passes and pushing people. Ugh, Audi drivers again!
Oh well, 2 good 99pct clean races, off to the livery editor.
 
It took me another improvement of my quali time, about ten times of "one more race and that's it" and 4 second places, but I finally won in a daily race C this week.

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My DR skyrocketed to 28k after that, so I tried a couple of races in higher-B lobbies and I think I achieved some decent results.
First race I started on P8 and finished on P8 as well, third race saw me climb up one position from P10 to P9. But the second race was definitely the best, as I reached as high as P3 after starting on P8, overtaking a number of other drivers, including the time I overtake two cars at once, which is a very rare occurrence on this track. Very happy with these results, as they generated as much as 29874 DR points in total for me, just a little bit short of A level.
I'm sure it will drop as soon as I switch the track, but I don't worry too much about it. As long as I'm in a group with drivers of approximately my skill range I'm happy, no matter the rating.

One thing I learned on this track is how to follow other cars within 0.1s and not touching them. That's the only way to wait for an overtaking opportunity, because every other move is impossible (at least as long as you want to be fair to others). The only decent place I found for overtakes is the penalty zone and turns before/after it. If someone goes wide going out of the tunnel, you can overtake him on this straight. Entering the tunnel after the penalty zone, some people go wide as well - and it is pretty possible to overtake them there.

Apart from that there are no overtaking opportunities, and the sooner you understand that, the better. I can't count how many times I saw someone on the radar trying to overtake me on the wide, only to hear them hitting a wall and seeing their blue icon disappearing. Each of this manoeuvres cost at least 0.2 or even more, which you'd rather save, so when an overtaking opportunity presents itself, you are there and not half a second behind. And yes, I did all the same mistakes in the beginning of the week as well, so I'm just sharing what I've learned :sly:
This logic is easily applied to other tracks as well, but Tokyo highlights it particularly well.

Another important thing is to know when you are beaten. If someone is side by side with you on the straight, and you are wide, just give way, because otherwise you are going to be smacked into the wall, no matter if other driver wants this or not. Avoiding this is very important, because being smacked into the wall slows you down much more than just a little tap on the brakes to let another person through. And as it is a very high-paced track, chances are that by the time you recover from a kiss with the wall, a person or two will overtake you as well.
 
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Oh it feels good to be back! Picked this game up last week, and am making my first post here in what is probably a couple of years.

I've been racing the Gr.3 dailies so far, and have been really enjoying them. I don't find the ramming and such as bad as I would have expected, and find that it is particularly manageable once you qualify in the top three or four and can pull away from the pack with the clean drivers up front. I must say however, that I was worryingly surprised how quickly I jumped to S SR, which was only half a dozen races in I believe. It should take much longer to reach the stop sportsmanship rating, really.

I'm up to DR B at the moment and while the competition is getting a bit tougher, I hope I can further push on to A. I don't have much insight yet into the skill levels required for A rating at the moment though. Had one of my best races yet yesterday at Fuji, in which I battled with three drivers for the lead for the whole race, staying third for the majority of the race until on both the penultimate and final lap, managing to force each driver to be narrow into the chicane before launching out of it and grabbing the inside line for the following right hander (Third last corner).

Looking forward to the weekend tournaments, but have no idea yet what I'm in for!
 
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