"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Redneckchef]

A CRB at race A got me 1.
An SR down for being brake checked got me -11.
WTF???

I don't understand.

At least me and all my race A buddies will all be at D/E within a day or two.

That explains how 1 bump coming through the first turn 2 races in a row dropped me to SR A.

Time to dust off the NA alt again and join in the fun there

 

[sturk0167]

That explains how 1 bump coming through the first turn 2 races in a row dropped me to SR A.

Time to dust off the NA alt again and join in the fun there

If anyone touches you at the first corner, just cut the second one. Same as Interlagos.

Here's a good example. C Ya! Ha ha
Work smarter, not harder.

 

[sturk0167]

I will have to join race A crew this week when I get time. Can we use a garage car? (Go to 1 min for startup)

That's badass! How do I make my Accord sound like that?

 

[Groundfish]

That's badass! How do I make my Accord sound like that?

Now THAT would be awesome. Ultimate sleeper Accord has full race NASCAR v8 swap. Heck why not make it a hybrid so you could silently roll up to a stoplight then bam flick on the ignition! Of course you’d need to wear the suit from Blues Brothers, hat and shades.
Hehehe

Edit on Olympia decal search...

 

[OutsiderC]

If anyone touches you at the first corner, just cut the second one. Same as Interlagos.

Here's a good example. C Ya! Ha ha
Work smarter, not harder.

Are you RPM?

 

[ASH32]

Well it didn't take long this week to remember why I didn't bother to race last week. First race my wheel started rattling in every corner until lap 5 when it just magically fixed itself (it was fine in free run and warm up beforehand too), very odd and then stupid penalties all over. This was the best one of them, taken from race 2.



Would have been nice if the ghosting system worked, or if the other driver didn't just mash the throttle to get back on track or if the penalty system didn't blame me.

For some reason I'm not feeling it either.

 

[Scuba1958]

What the hell is the story with race A and SR points? A clean race gets 1 ******* point? A single SR down takes 10 races to recover from? No wonder the rooms are only half full for some races.

 

[OJBrit]

Got a win last night on Race A.
Essentially it was a case of keeping it on the black stuff. Started 5th but down to 9th by Mulsanne.
However I was forth coming out of it. The five cars in front decided to visit the beach. A car made it out and was side by side with me. I was across to the far right of the track to avoid any entry schenanigans. But an Italian still decided to come over and say hi. Once they tapped me they lost all momentum and they dissapeared from my radar. 3rd binned it at Indianapolis and I gained a place. Heading into the Porsche curves the top 2 were off. I braved it and passed one who was ghosted. The other had a 2 sec penalty. So all I had to do was sit in and wait. An unexpected win but welcome.

A 9th in Race B with a couple of B rated drivers has me at my highest DR and looking up at B. Though I suspect tonights races will see me fall back to reality.

 

[Norrin Radd]

What the hell is the story with race A and SR points? A clean race gets 1 ******* point? A single SR down takes 10 races to recover from? No wonder the rooms are only half full for some races.

For low rank players it's a simple trade, a race that's fairly easy to get DR points and so what if you lose SR points I can do a race C and make 20 easily and even if I sit at the back I'll not lose too many DR points unless it's a really bad lobby, I.E. I'm door 1.
For higher rated drivers though it's why you have alts.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Not a fan of anything this week but thought i'd try Tokyo, hot the q-lap down to a 1.58.8, I have about half a second left in me. Races are brutal though, it's a terrible track for racing as all but one corner is super fast or a no-pass zone and the penalty for touching a wall is crazy high.

Not really enjoying it TBH but will give it one more go because Fuji is loathsome and slow cars at Lemans is asinine.

 

[Famine]

In the second part, I drive up to the cones and knock them out of the way. I back up, and blast through the chicane again, penalty free.
I really don't know why it works. It just does.

You stopped on the 2nd run thats why the penalty wasn't dished out.

No. That's not it. The penalty pops up before the starting line.
That's why I included about 10 extra seconds, in the 2nd run, so it's clear that no penalty was issued.

I mean if the system sees that you've slowed to account for the penalty thats going to be given it will throw it out. Unless I miss your meaning.

As we know, GT Sport issues penalties for track limits if you gain an advantage - apparently by comparison to how quickly an AI driving the normal line goes - from the previous mini-sector (essentially where your gap time updates, both to the cars ahead/behind on a race lap or to your best lap on a qualifying lap) to the next.

You took over 27 seconds to run through a mini-sector that usually takes under two. No penalty.

Now, if you'd run through the whole subsequent lap, cut the corner at race speed and still not got a penalty, we could have a good "hmm" about it.

 

[sturk0167]

As we know, GT Sport issues penalties for track limits if you gain an advantage - apparently by comparison to how quickly an AI driving the normal line goes - from the previous mini-sector (essentially where your gap time updates, both to the cars ahead/behind on a race lap or to your best lap on a qualifying lap) to the next.

You took over 27 seconds to run through a mini-sector that usually takes under two. No penalty.

Now, if you'd run through the whole subsequent lap, cut the corner at race speed and still not got a penalty, we could have a good "hmm" about it.

That's interesting. Are you saying there is no penalty just because I stopped and backed up, taking a lot of time, overall?

Are you RPM?

Yes, Sir. I have 2 American accounts.

 

[KosmoKazi]

It is a bit of high risk / reward, but the nice thing is when you get dropped to the lower S SR slot (80-89), it's much easier to get a good starting spot and then a 1st or 2nd place...

The problem is though, that the blown braking zones for each chicane and Mulsanne corner mean watching your mirrors to avoid being torpedoed, and getting the wrong end of the penalty system. So I ran four races last night but didn't have the nerves to keep going.

And yeah, while it's easy to go from 99-89 with that one penalty, and easy to get back over the top S SR split at 90 after one clean race... the potential to drop to A or lower is too overwhelming to present your luck for long. Especially with the usual scrum in the Dunlop corners right at the start... where getting hit in the first set of esses is virtually a guarantee... it's just a matter of whether you get the penalty for others' bullying or not, if you are trying to stay clean.

In a clean room, it's actually a surprisingly fun race, and that car is a fun one to drive. I thought so in the recent FIA race as well.

What the hell is the story with race A and SR points? A clean race gets 1 ******* point? A single SR down takes 10 races to recover from? No wonder the rooms are only half full for some races.

For low rank players it's a simple trade, a race that's fairly easy to get DR points and so what if you lose SR points I can do a race C and make 20 easily and even if I sit at the back I'll not lose too many DR points unless it's a really bad lobby, I.E. I'm door 1.
For higher rated drivers though it's why you have alts.

 

[sturk0167]

So I ran four races last night but didn't have the nerves to keep going.

That's smart
I did about a dozen races at Le Mans yesterday.
Here's what PD thought of my efforts.
SR 99-->32
DR 45k-->15k

 

[OutsiderC]

That's interesting. Are you saying there is no penalty just because I stopped and backed up, taking a lot of time, overall?


Yes, Sir. I have 2 American accounts.

Good to know. I like to say to people I see around

 

[Yard_Sale]

Hunaudiers... But in English it's called the Mulsanne straight.

got paired with you in a race c lobby last night. Even managed to plow into the back of you once. Sorry about that, still learning how to manage the speed of a group 2 car. You looked good though and finished well from what I saw

 

[OJBrit]

That's smart
I did about a dozen races at Le Mans yesterday.
Here's what PD thought of my efforts.
SR 99-->32
DR 45k-->15k

I would say ouch, but it looks like you had fun.

 

[Groundfish]

his was the best one of them, taken from race 2.

You honestly didn’t see that coming?

As an aside, you always see people complain about other bad drivers being at fault, but in many cases the incidents are easily avoidable. You can’t just continue as if no one is there sometimes in racing. It’s common sense there are other cars on track. The race isn’t a time trial.
Sometimes it’s no ones fault but your own...

 

[williams_v_r]

People thinks that a faster car at straight is the best.
Wrong
You need a car for curves at Tokyo

I'm racing with Citroen with my alt account and my performance is good with it

P.S

A random song for you

 

[Norrin Radd]

That's smart
I did about a dozen races at Le Mans yesterday.
Here's what PD thought of my efforts.
SR 99-->32
DR 45k-->15k

I ran my alt (I just wanted to see what the asian server was like) it's really funny and there's no point moaning about penalties cos even the FIA races are like demolition derbies. Anyhoo in 8 races I went from DR 1---3006 and SR 99-- 63 Now I'm at B but could run a C race and be back to S and maybe lose 500 DR. Mind you there about 20 player on this server so I see players who are SR S all the time, it's really stupid.

 

[ASH32]

You honestly didn’t see that coming?

As an aside, you always see people complain about other bad drivers being at fault, but in many cases the incidents are easily avoidable. You can’t just continue as if no one is there sometimes in racing. It’s common sense there are other cars on track. The race isn’t a time trial.
Sometimes it’s no ones fault but your own...

Yes, although he'd gone off my screen, I barely accelerated and left room and had they used to brake or coasted back on I'd have been ok, they hit full throttle though so only stopping would have avoided them as they'd have hit me even on the very edge of track doing that. Also I've stopped before here when this sort of thing has happened, the car behind will hit you and you'll get a penalty for that too. Same if you corner cut to avoid them.

Only way you can avoid an accident in traffic is if the ghosting system works or the driver returning to track is careful/has full control.

 

[Groundfish]

Only way you can avoid an accident in traffic is if the ghosting system works or the driver returning to track is careful/has full control

Again see what happened there? It’s always the fault of the game or the other driver if a person were to accept that statement right there.
I’d never accept that way of thinking in regards to online racing. You gotta accept some responsibility if you are controlling a car racing others online. It’s common sense and knowing how to race.
My initial career account I raced pretty much 90 percent of the time midpack and remained 99sr. Many players out there would come across that situation you faced and just ease up, seeing the cars momentum, hold the corner tight and non issue. It happens like that quite often with guys easily avoiding it because they know not to drive into the momentum of the car that got off. I’m just saying this...80-90 percent of these incidents are easily avoidable.
Often you see people drive straight into others or into others paths then cry oh the bad driver oh the game should have ghosted them oh they shouldn’t have brakes 3 feet early when I’m one inch from their bumper for no reason etc etc etc.
I know darn well there’s times when the pen system screws people over and it needs work ok but the drivers need to also make an effort more than just driving like it’s a time trial. That’s jmo.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

got paired with you in a race c lobby last night. Even managed to plow into the back of you once. Sorry about that, still learning how to manage the speed of a group 2 car. You looked good though and finished well from what I saw

Yes, I remember you, didn't know you where here or I would have said Hi! That punt wasn't malicious and it was easy to see from my point so no hard feelings

 

[ASH32]

Again see what happened there? It’s always the fault of the game or the other driver if a person were to accept that statement right there.
I’d never accept that way of thinking in regards to online racing. You gotta accept some responsibility if you are controlling a car racing others online. It’s common sense.
My initial career account I raced pretty much 90 percent of the time midpack and remained 99sr. Many players out there would come across that situation you faced and just ease up, seeing the cars momentum, hold the corner tight and non issue. It happens like that quite often with guys easily avoiding it because they know not to drive into the momentum of the car that got off. I’m just saying this...80-90 percent of these incidents are easily avoidable.
Often you see people drive straight into others or into others paths then cry oh the bad driver oh the game should have ghosted them oh they shouldn’t have brakes 3 feet early when I’m one inch from their bumper for no reason etc etc etc.
I know darn well there’s times when the pen system screws people over and it needs work ok but the drivers need to also make an effort more than just driving like it’s a time trial. That’s jmo.

Yes if everyone drove more carefully they'd be less issues, I can't argue with that. The problem is they don't and I know I will have been hit from behind going very slow (I was slow already), it's happened before, whatever I do at that corner specifically, something usually goes wrong in cases like this where someone in front has gone off the track.

I've tried cutting under before but it's hard to get it right when I can't see where the other car has gone and you can bet if I did that the car that has gone off won't come flying back on out of control and instead will be slow on the inside and I'll run into the back of them or the car behind me will hit me.

Worrying about cars hitting the back of me causes most of my problems/mistakes in this game because it happens far too often so I try to ease off just the correct amount to avoid the car in front without risking the one behind hitting me, sometimes it works, other times I misjudge it.

The last thing I want to see when starting at the back is cars behind me because more often than not it leads to pain.

 

[HaydenFan69]

I remember a good lesson from an acting class I took. Or could’ve been a sex ed class. IDK, but works either way. “When in doubt, pull out.” Easy advice on how you should drive. And if you keep crashing though you feel confident every time it’ll work, you are the problem.

Like @Groundfish said, many times accidents occur due to someone putting themselves in a bad spot. It is false that every corner can be used for overtaking.

On another note: more in line with this threads topic, who else is not able to get a single clean lap around Le Mans with the Yaris? I am using ghosts and turned the drive lines on, yet still cannot get a single lap timed.

 

[Norrin Radd]

I ran my alt (I just wanted to see what the asian server was like) it's really funny and there's no point moaning about penalties cos even the FIA races are like demolition derbies. Anyhoo in 8 races I went from DR 1---3006 and SR 99-- 63 Now I'm at B but could run a C race and be back to S and maybe lose 500 DR. Mind you there about 20 player on this server so I see players who are SR S all the time, it's really stupid.

So 2 races later I'm 5,806 (I won the last one even though I had to fight hard with 3 Japanese "drivers") and 53 let's see if I can get back to S while keeping a C in race C.

 

[NSP525]

Not sure about race C this week, Fuji just isn't a fun track for me. Race B is probably the one I'll frequent this week simply for the fun factor.

 

[Norrin Radd]

Not sure about race C this week, Fuji just isn't a fun track for me. Race B is probably the one I'll frequent this week simply for the fun factor.

Having fun is the most important thing in a game, so do what makes you happy. I found B to be too much fighting, OK less than A, and C is the only one that's really racing so that's my go to.

 

[DuNord]

Oh boy Race B is a real kick to the bollocks when it comes to SR. Had a guy brake in a non braking zone, tapped him in the rear got a 2 sec penalty. Serve my penalty, veer off the racing line someone tries to drive through my ghost as I phase back in to the realm of the living and I hear contact but nothing of it. 2 second penalty. Rinse and repeat.

 

[Timm Sheehan]

For any D & E racers I did post on PSN my latest time trial in the Yaris at Sarthe. I have been trying to get the qualification time below 4:50 and believe I am almost there. I posted because it is easier for me to compare my driving against "like" times than comparing against the aliens posting 4:36-4:38 laps. Maybe it will help you too.

Under replays:
Search for FRANCE, SARTHE
Look for the Irish flag, replay is titled "Yaris at Sarthe Time Trial" (used my alt account for posting this).

I know the driving is questionable (per alien standards) but it is getting better and times are dropping.

I have raced a few races so far and this combination is awesome! I have finally gotten used to the Yaris butt wiggle and been able to drive with it. If I can get my time down I believe I might get higher up in the starting grid and be competitive (still looking for my first top 5).

Enjoy your racing!