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Speaking of trying to slow you down. I got two penalties at the start. Didn't notice from cockpit view, but I went over the white lines.

Dropped down to 4th(decided to do 1RH/5RM from Pole).
After I pit, I was P8 of 11 cars. Moved up to second as cars pit.

Once P1 & P2 pit at the same time(both started in RM), I split them as they came out. Right behind the R18, I caught it after the first chicane. Player wants to start blocking. Uh, that's not going to work. Tried to side bump me on the straight! I evaded hard right and the R18 is swearving to recover after nearly hitting the Armco. :lol:

It spun, at Indinapolis, in front of the 908 behind. I finished 4.5 seconds ahead of the 908 and another 787B. The R18 finished 15 seconds behind me.
 
AfraidRacer
Next week’s races are up! :cheers:
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Gr4 Autopolis
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I think I'm ready for this.

The race is going to be overwhelmingly a no-stop or one-stop. I think if you're going for fastest lap, maybe a two-stop.

From what I could work out, the strategies are going to be.
1̶0̶M̶ (Not Valid... A shame really)
4M-6S ±1 (+0.000s)
2M-4S-4S (+13.000s)

Nobody's going to actually go for the two-stop in a serious race, but I could imagine some fast guys actually doing it if they get bored enough. But hey, that's the fastest two-stop I could come up with. :lol:
 
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Jumped in my NA alt yesterday with 1 minute to race so no practice. I thought the car felt different....
I run off twice on lap 1. Coming out on Hunnadiers I check my settings...
My BB is at -2 instead of +2. So change it and at the end of the straight,as I brake, the rear steps out. Last time I raced thes account I was in a road car and my ABS was left on weak.
Interesting for the rest of the race.
Finished p4 from p8 so happy anyway.

Still haven't tried the Nissan so it's next.
 
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RacingGrandpa
Jumped in my NA alt yesterday with 1 minute to race so no practice. I thought the car felt different....
I run off twice on lap 1. Coming out on Hunnadiers I check my settings...
My BB is at -2 instead of +2. So change it and at the end of the straight,as I brake, the rear steps out. Last time I raced thes account I was in a road car and my ABS was left on weak.
Interesting for the rest of the race.
Finished p4 from p8 so happy anyway.

Still haven't tried the Nissan so it's next.
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I start races with the wrong transmission all the time. :dunce:
 
I guess i am in the minority, but one good thing about the old penalty system was that more people actively tried to avoid contact, because there was a real risk of getting a penalty, deserved or not..

Now we got this:

 
DefInfinity
I think I'm ready for this.

The race is going to be overwhelmingly a no-stop or one-stop. I think if you're going for fastest lap, maybe a two-stop.

From what I could work out, the strategies are going to be.
10M (+0.000s)
4M-6S ±1 (+5.500s)
2M-4S-4S (+17.500s)

Nobody's going to actually go for the two-stop in a serious race, but I could imagine some fast guys actually doing it if they get bored enough. But hey, that's the fastest two-stop I could come up with. :lol:
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Is it known whether a stop is mandatory? Or, do we need to wait until the actual games are posted on Monday?

Given the recent BoP and tire wear a no-stopper will kill the FF cars. Even with a mandatory stop they are harder on the fronts compared to the FR and MR cars. At Fuji and Spa the FFs were just a little off the pace but those were no-tire-wear races. They are now a bit slower and need to contend with tire wear.
 
Little_Guppy
Is it known whether a stop is mandatory? Or, do we need to wait until the actual games are posted on Monday?

Given the recent BoP and tire wear a no-stopper will kill the FF cars. Even with a mandatory stop they are harder on the fronts compared to the FR and MR cars. At Fuji and Spa the FFs were just a little off the pace but those were no-tire-wear races. They are now a bit slower and need to contend with tire wear.
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Kudosprime has it listed as no mandatory stop. Medium tires are needed, though.

It does look like the FFs are going to be forced into a sub-optimal strat, but its not like the no-stop is going to be much easier. The wear around Autopolis is pretty high already, so the stability of that kind of run is going to be questionable at the end of the stint.
 
05XR8
Can't recall Autopolis, with wear, known as an FF track. It's been a 4C & Slophy dominance with maybe the Cayman an alternate.
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DefInfinity
Kudosprime has it listed as no mandatory stop. Medium tires are needed, though.

It does look like the FFs are going to be forced into a sub-optimal strat, but its not like the no-stop is going to be much easier. The wear around Autopolis is pretty high already, so the stability of that kind of run is going to be questionable at the end of the stint.
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I looked at the top 500 lap records, as I am apt to do, since 01 July 2020. It appears that there was an event in Nov so the data quality should be good. The standout non FF is the Ferrari 458 and it was not affected by the latest BOP.

The 4C was badly nerfed about a year ago but some of its power was restored in the latest Bop.

All of the FFs have since been nerfed.

These three have all been upgraded in the last BoP.
  • Gr4 Alfa Romeo4C Gr.4 1.64%
  • Gr4 Toyota86 Gr.4 0.94%
  • Gr4 Renault SportMégane Trophy '11 0.85%

Throwing all of that together my rough ranked prediction for race success:
  • Ferrari 458 - recent history
  • Alfa Romeo 4C - long ago history and recent BoP improvement
  • Renault SportMégane Trophy '11 - long ago history but the 4C will be faster.
I expect the FFs will be capable of decent/good QT times but will suffer more under tire wear compared to the others.

https://gtsport.r1s3.net/laprecords/73/12

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Count Car
1     Alfa Romeo 4C Gr.4
32    Audi TT Cup '16
171   Ferrari 458 Italia Gr.4
1     McLaren 650S Gr.4
194   Peugeot RCZ Gr.4
1     Renault Sport Mégane Gr.4
1     Subaru WRX Gr.4
1     TOYOTA 86 Gr.4
98    Volkswagen Scirocco Gr.4
500  Grand Total

Let us know what you think and if your practice lap times bear that out. If not, let us know what your best pick for the week is.
 
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kjeldsen
I guess i am in the minority, but one good thing about the old penalty system was that more people actively tried to avoid contact, because there was a real risk of getting a penalty, deserved or not..

Now we got this:

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At least their car comes with a handy warning about the idiot behind the wheel. I wish they all did.
 
DefInfinity
I think I'm ready for this.

The race is going to be overwhelmingly a no-stop or one-stop. I think if you're going for fastest lap, maybe a two-stop.

From what I could work out, the strategies are going to be.
10M (+0.000s)
4M-6S ±1 (+5.500s)
2M-4S-4S (+17.500s)

Nobody's going to actually go for the two-stop in a serious race, but I could imagine some fast guys actually doing it if they get bored enough. But hey, that's the fastest two-stop I could come up with. :lol:
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I believe non stop is not valid, based on kudos prime RS and RM are mandatory?
 
I'll just be using the M4, Mustang and RC F. BIG CAR HUSTLE WEEK.
 
OutsiderC
I believe non stop is not valid, based on kudos prime RS and RM are mandatory?
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Looked at it again. I suppose it isn't. This week's Sarthe race is listed the same way and has mandatory RH and RM.
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Its just really odd to have no mandatory stop, and also have mandatory tires representing only one of the compounds :banghead:
Sucks because a valid no-stop would make the strategies way more interesting.
 
Maybe the Slophy, Cayman and 4C, Edit: Add the Citroen too, can no stop. Might be tough towards the end. Will have to see how much the RS drop off, after 5 laps.

Edit: There IS a mandatory stop. It reads Racing Mediums at the bottom.
 
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Little_Guppy
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Throwing all of that together my rough ranked prediction for race success:
  • Ferrari 458 - recent history
  • Alfa Romeo 4C - long ago history and recent BoP improvement
  • Renault SportMégane Trophy '11 - long ago history but the 4C will be faster.
I expect the FFs will be capable of decent/good QT times but will suffer more under tire wear compared to the others.
Let us know what you think and if your practice lap times bear that out. If not, let us know what your best pick for the week is.
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So far in QT, my top 5 picks are

1 Scirocco
2 Genesis (+0.091)
3 458 Italia (+0.197)
4 Mégane Trophy (+0.302)
5 RC F (+0.371)

A couple of others...

6 Mustang (+0.609)
7 C7 (+0.726)
8 SLS AMG (+0.782)
9 Viper (+0.849)
10 Huracán (+1.589)


I don't have all of the Gr.4s yet, so this is subject to change. At the moment, because the no-stop is not valid, I feel that the FFs are still going to be bit strong during the race.
 
kjeldsen
I guess i am in the minority, but one good thing about the old penalty system was that more people actively tried to avoid contact, because there was a real risk of getting a penalty, deserved or not..

Now we got this:

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Honestly, even though I can drive in the current BTCC penalty system, I much prefer the old, F1 system. It makes it more worth it to drive clean and let others take themselves out. Now, you can't make a clean pass. Like I said, I could adjust to the new system, but I'd rather pass due to a penalty and have less 'actual racing' than rubbing doors and having to shove to make a pass.

Dunno if I'll be good at Autopolis. Just got to A(33k after FIA) on my main so probably a good idea to level up the alt.
 
DefInfinity
So far in QT, my top 5 picks are

1 Scirocco
2 Genesis (+0.091)
3 458 Italia (+0.197)
4 Mégane Trophy (+0.302)
5 RC F (+0.371)

A couple of others...

6 Mustang (+0.609)
7 C7 (+0.726)
8 SLS AMG (+0.782)
9 Viper (+0.849)
10 Huracán (+1.589)


I don't have all of the Gr.4s yet, so this is subject to change. At the moment, because the no-stop is not valid, I feel that the FFs are still going to be bit strong during the race.
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How does the GT-R stack up relative to the others?
 
Good morning friends,

This morning I will be entering a race or two at LeMans, using the 4 rotor car.
Yesterday I entered a couple on alt which hasn’t seen much use of late and recovered it to 99sr. Not a lot happened in the races though. I basically ran alone the entire time and finished midpack.
I raced once at Spa, from no qual in the Mustang. It was quite uneventful.
It’s time to go in country and see what’s in store...

Cheers

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I just came out the pits starting final lap ahead of several Brazilian drivers, one managed to barge by after I pulled alongside when he made a mistake sector 1.
Should have been 7th. I. Love. This. Livery!
 
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Have had a canny week at Le Mans. Tried a few different cars but its the Mazda that is connecting with me for this combination.
Had a few wins and moved up the ranks in 90 % of the races entered.
Had some great close racing once everyone got used to the different classes, there's still some idiots there & we all make mistakes, especially over 6 laps.
Had one racer last night call everyone dirty in post race chat, didn't remember interacting with them in the race & they left before I could query him. He was in the next race so sent him a ? Immediately said he was in a room with 12 dirty cheaters :confused:
I'm thinking he knows about the "grip hack" :nervous:
He didnt get close all race & still called me dirty cheater after, he definitely knows about the "grip hack" bugger 🤬
Next race he is in too 👍
I type " Hi Babes, hope u not going to be dirty"
I start about 7 positions ahead and as it's the last race of the night for me I go backwards over a couple of laps, so does he, everytime I slow he slows :confused:
I couldn't get close to him to sniff his diff :lol:


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Barra333
Oh, right. I guess that was 350,000cr wasted last night.
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The tyre wear is 6x, but we have to use the medium. If you have to pit, just pit. If you like the GT-R, use it. See what performance you can get out of it.

So many times, we see players choose the META and they underperform with it. There are cars others find during the week, that are just as effective/competitive to run. If the GT-R isn't competitive, keep it for a non fuel/tyre wear Race B.
 
Barra333
How does the GT-R stack up relative to the others?
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Well it was the first car I tested, you'd have to do 5/5 or close (unless your much better on tyres than me) but it doesn't lose much on the meds. If we need both (probable) I'd say it's worth a try, but there are cars that can do a non stop here.
 
Sean YZF
Have had a canny week at Le Mans. Tried a few different cars but its the Mazda that is connecting with me for this combination.
Had a few wins and moved up the ranks in 90 % of the races entered.
Had some great close racing once everyone got used to the different classes, there's still some idiots there & we all make mistakes, especially over 6 laps.
Had one racer last night call everyone dirty in post race chat, didn't remember interacting with them in the race & they left before I could query him. He was in the next race so sent him a ? Immediately said he was in a room with 12 dirty cheaters :confused:
I'm thinking he knows about the "grip hack" :nervous:
He didnt get close all race & still called me dirty cheater after, he definitely knows about the "grip hack" bugger 🤬
Next race he is in too 👍
I type " Hi Babes, hope u not going to be dirty"
I start about 7 positions ahead and as it's the last race of the night for me I go backwards over a couple of laps, so does he, everytime I slow he slows :confused:
I couldn't get close to him to sniff his diff :lol:


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I have raced him too. He always calls out a number of drivers as hackers, cheats or dirty. Frankly I think he is of his rockers
 
Barra333
Oh, right. I guess that was 350,000cr wasted last night.
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Not really. I bought one myself when I was new to the game. PD just has some odd ways of implementing the BoP rules. The Gr. 4 car has a ton of weight, but the most power of the class. Works great on power tracks, but with my driving style, it just doesn't work with handling tracks. But, it does look good dressed in its war paint. :mischievous: Gr. 3 GT-R also gets the bad side of BoP, but has been shown to be more useful without the AWD drivetrain. Meanwhile, the Gr. 2 car is on par & typically META with the rest of the class. Any car you choose in any class really becomes "your car" when it makes you feel the most confident behind the wheel. If it performs the way you like, you push harder, your QTs get quicker, your in race confidence builds & you can win more often (or just score more DR).

A waste is typically what you get on the prize wheel. :lol:
 
Barra333
How does the GT-R stack up relative to the others?
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GT-R (+0.509). Again, I still have to get all the Gr.4s. If a faster car shows up I'll have to redo the deltas.

Norrin Radd
Well it was the first car I tested, you'd have to do 5/5 or close (unless your much better on tyres than me) but it doesn't lose much on the meds. If we need both (probable) I'd say it's worth a try, but there are cars that can do a non stop here.
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A no-stop can't be used during the race, unfortunately.

NoStopN
Any car you choose in any class really becomes "your car" when it makes you feel the most confident behind the wheel. If it performs the way you like, you push harder, your QTs get quicker, your in race confidence builds & you can win more often (or just score more DR).
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This is the caveat when it comes to car testing in general. It's limited by the tester's ability, not yours. Always choose the car that you're most comfortable with.
 
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05XR8
The tyre wear is 6x, but we have to use the medium. If you have to pit, just pit. If you like the GT-R, use it. See what performance you can get out of it.

So many times, we see players choose the META and they underperform with it. There are cars others find during the week, that are just as effective/competitive to run. If the GT-R isn't competitive, keep it for a non fuel/tyre wear Race B.
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👍

I always look at the data and try to determine the META. *BUT*, I compare it to *MY* best runner. Then I pick.

For racing you need to seek every advantage that you can. That includes trying the META as maybe the the rest of the world knows something that I don't.
 
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