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NevilleNobody
Agree, needs at least another lap as well as a standing start. Racing has been shockingly clean given you have license to punt people off and still get a blue SR. Thing is, with so many people now SRS the grids are tighter as they are more based on pace and SR, it is tough going to make a clean pass, really tough, the dirty air kills you through radillion and blanchimont.
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They should use the classic racing grid.instead and add a lap.
 
I have played this game for nearly one year and have managed to never execute a purposeful/intentional punt. Mostly, I do not like confrontation, will "turn the other cheek", and punting does not help with a finishing position. It's that simple.

Today, that changed.

The background.

Over a couple of races at Spa/Gr4 I raced with a guy that refused to be passed. When I got alongside at the Kemmel straight he engaged in hard door banging. Eventually, I got past in the twisty bits. Then he caught me at Blanchimont and nicked my inside corner panel to get past. In another race I caught him at Eau Rouge and he punted me off the track and I got the 1.5 second hit-the-barrier penalty. It was my mistake for running side-by-side with anyone at Eau Rouge much less dirty dirty-guy.

Today, he was 4/10ths behind at the final chicane and he dove and made contact. On the left exit I just punted him - hard.

Except for my barrier contact there were no penalties.

I attribute some of the problem to the new lenient penalty system. I looked at his Kudosprime and prior to the last 5 days or so he never raced at SR.S. I would never have raced him before. I also noticed another old nemesis return - dirty driver. Both players are fast. I expect that their DR is also growing since they are no longer getting reset - that part is fair. It is the new reality.

I am going to take a little break.
 
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I've raced in the A races exclusively this week while I regain the feel for GT after lots of time off. Since I'm new to the game, I obviously started at DR E. I'm feeling that my true level is somewhere on the cusp of B/C. Anyway, there were a couple of races that were made up of entirely SR S people. I find it hard to believe that every one of those DR D/E drivers were genuinely clean racers.
Then there is the random DR A or B guy that gets thrown in. I have a Q time of 1:53.6, and in one lobby of 10 I was second, 1.7 sec off 1st. Were there 0 people playing at the time that had a time in the 1:52.x range?
 
Tried the Corvette at Spa - started 4th (with my Viper Q-time) and was just about to finish 4th, until a nice little opportunity coming out of the last chicane. I find the Corvette and Viper so much easier to drive than the Jag or FF cars - seem to turn better and less twitchy (motion controller)



Starting 5th - 7th at Spa is bloody horrible. Even in 4th I was already 5 seconds off the leader before Eau Rouge.
 
It is simply too lenient. I do like that a little rubbing is not an INSTANT DEATH and the brutal resets that come with it. Last night, I was racing a guy and we were both trying to be clean, our pace was damn near identical, was good run. I got him at the end of Kemmel by getting a great run and passing on the outside. Next lap he tried the same thing but was crucially only up to my B-pillar (I was almost a complete car in front), I held the inside and made the apex no issue, he turned in trying to replicate the move I made a lap earlier but he did not allow for the fact I simply had a better run on him when I did it.

We touch reasonably firmly, I held the place, we carried on, neither driver worse for wear. We both had positive comments after the race. 2 weeks ago i would likely have been nailed to a cross for the contact despite holding the apex super tight.

But it is too lenient, too many passes are barge passes when guys chuck it in and use me to avoid going off and it seems everyone is now SRS.
 
jwaaa17
any thoughts on gr3 cars for next week? although being that i'm equally slow in all of them it really shouldn't make any difference to me:)
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I'd gather cars that can change direction quickly(EVO, WRX) and rotate the rear(Supra, RX-VISION).

The Huracan is strong, by those that know how to drive it.

FT-1 seems to be a good alternative. Maybe the RSR for all the twisty bits. RCZ also seems like a popular choice.

R.S.01 was good at DTG. So was the Mustang(has nice front grip and gets up to speed quickly.
SLS was good at Interlagos Race C. With no tyre wear, that may be another alternative.
Peugeot VGT is pretty quick and not to bad with handling performance.

30+ choices. Use them all. 👍
 
NevilleNobody
It is simply too lenient. I do like that a little rubbing is not an INSTANT DEATH and the brutal resets that come with it. Last night, I was racing a guy and we were both trying to be clean, our pace was damn near identical, was good run. I got him at the end of Kemmel by getting a great run and passing on the outside. Next lap he tried the same thing but was crucially only up to my B-pillar (I was almost a complete car in front), I held the inside and made the apex no issue, he turned in trying to replicate the move I made a lap earlier but he did not allow for the fact I simply had a better run on him when I did it.

We touch reasonably firmly, I held the place, we carried on, neither driver worse for wear. We both had positive comments after the race. 2 weeks ago i would likely have been nailed to a cross for the contact despite holding the apex super tight.

But it is too lenient, too many passes are barge passes when guys chuck it in and use me to avoid going off and it seems everyone is now SRS.
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Most likely they would have had the penalty being on the outside.
 
Today: 3 races, 2 Podiums. It looked like playing Driveclub last night didn't mess with my muscle memory all too much, which is good. I'm planning to play more of it.

I somehow managed to drag the McLaren to a sub-20 time. There's at least a full second that I can make up according to the optimal times.



The race strategy seems to be 2H-4M or 5M-1H, where its easier to pull off the latter than the former. The first has more potential but you have to manage both traffic and not getting a penalty. I don't know how much that matters, though.

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NevilleNobody
Man tried LeMans again and i just cannot get my braking points figured out, I am not a huge fan of super long tracks as i struggle to remember the nuances of each corner. I di 6, 7 laps and still mess up basically every corner, I have an innate struggle to remember each corner, i just cannot seem to do it.
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Do you use the cones? I find they are usually pretty good at Le Mans. :)
 
roamingbard13
The chicane at Tokyo SOL would like to have a word with you.

Maybe this a trend -- ruin a great track with a crappy chicane. I guess that's real life though, lol.
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But that's just one part of the track. In my case against Maggiore II, the whole track doesn't feel good to race in. The track was not meant to be raced in reverse, and feels awkward to drive in that direction.

South Outer Loop is a great track, but you are right in that the chicane ruins it. The chicane wouldn't be as bad if it wasn't as sharp (or simply didn't exist), and the sausage curbs weren't there.
 
Hard to argue with your logic. All of the corners are maggiore are at weird entrance angles and speeds.

Mistah_MCA
South Outer Loop is a great track, but you are right in that the chicane ruins it. The chicane wouldn't be as bad if it wasn't as sharp (or simply didn't exist), and the sausage curbs weren't there.
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I think tighter limits would help nearly all the chicanes in this game. If hitting the sausage curb either completely killed your car or gave you a limits penalty, I actually think these corners would be easier because it removes the "lottery" aspect of hitting them cleanly. SOL is like that for sure, the walls ruin DTS, having to straddle the curbs (but not too much) ruins DTG...
 
Mistah_MCA
Lago Maggiore II wants to have a word with you.
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As a 5x winner on Maggiore GP II, I have to agree with the Max. Seaside II is worse. Take everything we loathe about DTS & put it at the start of the lap, not the end. Lap 1 turn 2 meme, anyone?

I also forgot to shout out @KiepeYai & @roamingbard13 for making another YouTuber's video. Damn Roam, that lap 2 move at the end of the Kemmel. Balls my man, you got balls.

 
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NoStopN
As a 5x winner on Maggiore GP II, I have to agree with the Max. Seaside II is worse. Take everything we loathe about DTS & put it at the start of the lap, not the end. Lap 1 turn 2 meme, anyone?

I also forgot to shout out @KiepeYai & @roamingbard13 for making another YouTuber's video. Damn Roam, that lap 2 move at the end of the Kemmel. Balls my man, you got balls.

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I totally stuck that. Lol. I maybe needed a shower after, but I’ve been watching a lot of @GOTMAXPOWER vids.

(I was also slightly annoyed because I had a great run through radillion and plenty of slip speed but had no where to go because there were two cars instead of one.)
 
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Mistah_MCA
But that's just one part of the track. In my case against Maggiore II, the whole track doesn't feel good to race in. The track was not meant to be raced in reverse, and feels awkward to drive in that direction.
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No. I will fight you.
 
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From three weeks ago, one of many great and close races I had with PX7-Aschumi at Yamagiwa.

 
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roamingbard13
I totally stuck that. Lol. I maybe needed a shower after, but I’ve been watching a lot of @GOTMAXPOWER vids.

(I was also slightly annoyed because I had a great run through radillion and plenty of slip speed but had no where to go because there were two cars instead of one.)
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3 wide, in front of the streamer. Perfect!
 
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Just raced my first 2 races of the week, other than 1 manu race last night. Race C, first was in the Mazda, second in the 962. My 25 in Q wasn't doing me much good, and the 962 race was pretty loaded, with @GOTMAXPOWER and @sturk0167 behind me with no Q on alts. I started on hards, and was going okay, but couldn't get away from an 050 behind me, and he was hitting me in every corner. Got knocked sideways as he pulled a half pit manuever, lost some time, got a couple of limit penalties, and ended up way in back. Put on mediums after lap 2 but only passed 1 guy when he looped it after mulsanne. Somehow ended up 14th...I think some guys pitted on the final lap. (Sturk?) I'm waay off the pace here. Lack of track time the last couple weeks doesn't help. Maybe I can do something at Tokyo. Track seems to like me, and I KNOW where the track limits are there!
 
NevilleNobody
Its getting messy out there, folks are starting to lean on the penalty system, tons of contact when passing, tons.
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I am not experiencing that so much. One race yesterday was hairy but most I have been in are aggressive but clean.
I can't help but to think of your stand in the "Rate this move"-thread and suspect it feels more rough due to your views on corner rights.
 
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