"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Groundfish]

Important reminder, don’t worry turn 1 Interlagos if a guy dives or hits you, just immediately cut turn 2 with runoff area, that’s what it’s for.
You get no penalty and get ahead of the guy who made the mistake. Also you don’t ruin the race for folks behind you.
You just gotta punch it.
Public service announcement.
I tried a race earlier and did fine but it was a bit too aggro for me.

 

[Stephan]

The closest finish that I ever got to experience in all of the dailies I did.



I thought it was all over as soon as I gone off track before the final corner but was able to pull a switch in the final corner and from there it was a drag race to the finish.

 

[OJBrit]

The closest finish that I ever got to experience in all of the dailies I did.



I thought it was all over as soon as I gone off track before the final corner but was able to pull a switch in the final corner and from there it was a drag race to the finish.

Congrats and well done to him for not trying to Schumacher you.

Logged on this evening. I was able to navigate the game fine. Went in for a race A. All was fine until my warm up. As soon as I exited the pits the car swerved left. I pulled the USB out of the PS4 and put it back in. Controller reconnected fine, but didn't calibrate. On the grid I could see the wheels were pointing left and my avatar's arm was right over on the brief second you get inside the car. I turned the wheel right in the hope I could force it to sort itself out. Nope no effect and I went hard left at the start. (It's never a good idea to go hard left anyway.) So I had to back out of it and investigate. I pulled the plug out and then back in. No effect. I then wiggled where the plug cable goes into the powerpack. Yup it was loose. I push it in and the wheel springs to life. I test it out with a quick run in the Kart time trial and all seems to be working fine. Nice to see @sturk0167 and @HaydenFan69 in the top 10 of that.
I hope into race C. After a couple of laps I feel the steering is a bit heavy (Well more than normally for a Veyron) and decide to reset the wheel. It doesn't immediately feel different but I do get a sense it is working better and shave a few thousandths off my qualy time.
I start 15th or 16th (I can't quite check it currently.) Just like yesterday it is a case of avoiding the chaos. Plenty of people resetting and quitting. You'll get a good result still, just stay in. Still it gives me free positions. I end up finishing 4th which is great considering my starting position. Thankfully this has bettered any DR I lost from having to quit the previous race and I gained a little overall.

 

[Groundfish]

Man, I’m pretty stoked, after about 35-40 laps of effort I finally hit Stang optimal of 30.1!
I can still see my mistakes but that required some effort!
Interestingly I started playing with tcs off for the final corner uphill drive, but I was unable to gain any speed coming across the start finish line. I hit that corner a lot looking for time. I found for the Mustang it’s better time wise to take it a bit tight, get on that gas full almost right at the apex.
Carrying more speed on a wider arc was costing me a few tenths there.
Funny how that works because I see the 911 RCZ going for the speed carry vs tight early power.
Interesting. I tried a lot doing my whole normal lap then TCS0 out of that turn but it didn’t gain me anything. Fwiw I’m at 158 mph then 159 crossing the line on a flier tcs on or off...Weird I really thought I’d gain time doing it but no. Anyhow invested quite a bit into the Perrier Mustang Sturk made, thx for the livery bro. Lap shared search tpc. Anyways with the tcs that car let’s me sip my macchiato and race well too!

Cheers. TGIF

 

[Def-Infinity]

Not really feeling Sport mode much these days. Finally touched this week's dailies last night and it's been fairly hit or miss. Too many recovery drives to be enjoyable.


The Mazda derby race has the potential to be really good - much better than race C - but some players tend to interpret a 4 lap race as having 4 days left to live. Most of the time, people are trying to keep it clean and I appreciate it.



Monza is straight up painful within the first few laps. Beyond that, you're just fighting the track limits. Much like Sarthe, the penalties are almost "race ending" in a sense. What seems to be a cut worth less than 2 tenths can net you a 1.5 second penalty, which is usually enough to make you lose more than 3 seconds over the course of the race (including having to fight for positions again).



A bit of a nasty feedback loop if you mess it up. If you get overtaken, you push the limits a bit harder, which can net you a penalty, which you then have to fight harder to make up the lost time. I don't think I've had any Monza race that didn't have a track limits penalty.

 

[ii_Biggles_ii]

I had not done too many race A's ever up until a few weeks back and enjoying them even tough it rough in some of them, I find that it has made me seek out lobbies that use Sports tyres over racing tyres and it has improved my driving. I had one pole today and was slow getting away but back into 1st after the first corner until the guy who I passed decided to tail-spin me and sent me to the back, unfortunately I couldn't manage a GOTMAXPOWER comeback but enjoyed taking some places back. One thing I have noticed that has changed or has it? These guys leave very quickly after the race so they know that there dirty and don't with for the chat, a little annoying when they win after dumping you out.

I ran the Corvette Gt.4 at Monza and was afraid to try it as no one seems to be using it, I gained 6 places to finish 7th and had way better tyres that the guys ahead on the last few laps closing up 6 seconds in just over 2 laps and taking another place. I'm not being aggressive with the car so maybe it just good tyre saving but just wondering is anyone else here running it at Monza?

 

[RacingGrandpa]

They are indeed! The K-Pax boys did a great job with these! Simple but powerful.

Don't belittle your part!

 

[foolsgold74]

Had a pretty similar race B to you there, Q3 with Q2 being overly pushy in defence, got past him on lap 2 and he got in such a battle with the others behind that I got away quite quickly. Unfortunately P1 was already 3sc up the road, and I couldn't cut into that, was stuck in no man's land for the rest of the race!

Had a look at your Kudos, looks like we're at a similar level and same region, mind if I send you a PSN request? Might even get in a race together!

Yes no problem. See you on the track!
(PSN is same as name here)

And scratch what I said earlier. Race A is a punt fest. So many people sending it into the corkscrew and using you as a brake. Crazy thing is it doesn't even work for them because they either get a penalty (rare) or they are out of shape anyway

 

[BalsBrother]

I ran the Corvette Gt.4 at Monza and was afraid to try it as no one seems to be using it, I gained 6 places to finish 7th and had way better tyres that the guys ahead on the last few laps closing up 6 seconds in just over 2 laps and taking another place. I'm not being aggressive with the car so maybe it just good tyre saving but just wondering is anyone else here running it at Monza?

I run the Corvette, 650S. Huracán, Mustang and the Veyron, my strategy is the same for all of them. For the first five laps I am not really racing all I am trying to do is avoid trouble, penalties and going off track. I am doing enough to keep in touch with whoever is in front and save my tyres. So breaking a bit earlier, being gentle into corners so I get a good exit and not fighting anyone who is being pushy (that is the important one just let them go.)

You will pick up places from folks getting penalties, going off track and all the usual nonsense at Monza. The last five laps depends on where you are, what the race situation is and how much you want to push for places. Sometimes I can just keep going as is maintain my place and pick up whatever comes my way. Other times I start racing and pushing for places which should be a bit easier due to your tyre saving.

I still haven't set a lap time so start at the back and if I don't make it into the top ten I consider it a bad race but more often than not it's easy. Best I have done doing this is a fourth and I would say my average is fifth / sixth. I don't expect in higher lobbies this would work as well as it relies on others making mistakes but in middle / low C mistakes are the normal state of affairs.

I wish I had more time this week to do race C so I could boost my DR but that work life thing keeps getting in the way of the fun.

 

[05XR8]

Nice way to start the morning. One and done. From last, I just laid back in the cut. This was my only pass. Everything before this, was done by penalty zone.
Followed this Veyron from Lap 3. Got myself a .5s for too much curb at the last chicane.

By Lap 6, those heavier cars were showing wear, even though they didn't go off track.
The Veyron and Huracan pulled away, but they couldn't help scrapping for position. That brought me right back to them. Then, the Huracan got a .5, but also went off before the PZ. The Veyron picked up the same .5s, which led to this last lap.

 

[toffeetony1]

Hi all, new to the forum having only been playing GT Sport for a couple of months.
Was enjoying it up until this week but have gone from DR B to DR D in the space of a few days due to constantly getting knocked off track in Race A. The penalty system seems to be getting worse by the week with other players able to use you as a braking system or force you off track with no penalty at all!?
Has it always been this way or am I just having a bad week?
It doesn't help that I am new to the game and sim racing in general so having to learn new circuits every week. Maybe I need to avoid daily races for a while and concentrate on the circuit experience training?

 

[OJBrit]

Has it always been this way or am I just having a bad week?
It doesn't help that I am new to the game and sim racing in general so having to learn new circuits every week. Maybe I need to avoid daily races for a while and concentrate on the circuit experience training?

A mixture of both. The lower lobbies can be a slugfest at times. But you can also find plenty of clean racers there too. I have seen a few dirty B drivers recently but they are few and far between. Most drivers have been good.
If you are new then I would certainly recommend going through the circuit experience, driving missions and GT league. They will all help with track familiarisation and driving techniques (even if only against AI). However I wouldn't dispense with Sport whilst doing this. You will need to keep learning through that as the AI are poor substitutes for real people.

 

[Little_Guppy]

Hi all, new to the forum having only been playing GT Sport for a couple of months.
Was enjoying it up until this week but have gone from DR B to DR D in the space of a few days due to constantly getting knocked off track in Race A. The penalty system seems to be getting worse by the week with other players able to use you as a braking system or force you off track with no penalty at all!?
Has it always been this way or am I just having a bad week?
It doesn't help that I am new to the game and sim racing in general so having to learn new circuits every week. Maybe I need to avoid daily races for a while and concentrate on the circuit experience training?

A mixture of both. The lower lobbies can be a slugfest at times. But you can also find plenty of clean racers there too. I have seen a few dirty B drivers recently but they are few and far between. Most drivers have been good.
If you are new then I would certainly recommend going through the circuit experience, driving missions and GT league. They will all help with track familiarisation and driving techniques (even if only against AI). However I wouldn't dispense with Sport whilst doing this. You will need to keep learning through that as the AI are poor substitutes for real people.

@toffeetony1 ,

Welcome! Don't worry about your DR. If you got to DR.B you will be able to find your way back there. You can visit Kudosprime. I, like others, include it in my signature below. Be sure to look at your SR too. If that got hit then it may have reset your DR. Ignore the "average" line... it is misleadingly high. It is quite normal for your score to bounce up and down as a new racer.

Just a few messages ago @BalsBrother dispensed some great guidance. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/daily-race-discussion.373268/page-23#post-13388517. As best you can avoid the contact with others where possible even if it means giving up a spot. Let others make mistakes and take advantage.

Circuit Experience and AI is great. Sport Mode is all that but with fellow humans.

Have fun!!!

 

[GTP_TO Blue]

Hi all, new to the forum having only been playing GT Sport for a couple of months.
Was enjoying it up until this week but have gone from DR B to DR D in the space of a few days due to constantly getting knocked off track in Race A. The penalty system seems to be getting worse by the week with other players able to use you as a braking system or force you off track with no penalty at all!?
Has it always been this way or am I just having a bad week?
It doesn't help that I am new to the game and sim racing in general so having to learn new circuits every week. Maybe I need to avoid daily races for a while and concentrate on the circuit experience training?

Evertonian, by any chance?

 

[NoStopN]

1 Race A today. Started 8th. Finished 7th.

I thought I had a clean race. But on repaly I hit another car off. Didn't see it like this in real time. No penalty. Still a Clean Race. But took someone out.

Short, slowed clip of me (black car) hit from behind (red car) then hit in front (white car), front car goes off.

Looks like the game algorithms got it right. No penalty to you because you didn't cause the other car to go off, you carried momentum from another car hitting you. Could PD have figured some part of the penalty system out?

Next week's dailies:

Race A: N100 @ Goodwood | 4 laps | SM
Race B: Gr.4 @ Dragon Trail Seaside | 4 laps | RM
Race C: Gr.2 @ Maggiore GP II | 10 laps | RS/RM | Tyres x6 | Fuel x2

A) Some small loose car that I won't care about.
B) Even I'm getting bored with this combo.
C) OK, if I have some free time, this will be my home.

 

[Groundfish]

Goodwood n100?
I hope it’s something cool. Goodwood is great fun. I mean how could a track with such a name be bad?

B race this week has been unbelievably amazingly epically great in the NA upper splits.
People seem kinda cool. It’s like everybody just wants good hard racing without bs. It’s nice because the lobbies matches are pretty stable, it’s just been fabulous. I’ve seen many big names had many fun races and very little animosity.
I will say this games very difficult in the online. I can remember my first B Dr race. I thought okay that’s not even possible for me to compete, these players are much too fast.
I dropped back to mid c but just kept going, kept learning and practicing.

My advice to new players like above is a phrase taken from an online friend...
“Drive it like you’re in it”

 

[05XR8]

Can't call the N100 class. It's at Goodwood. Logically, should be something historically British. Can't remember if we've ever run a British car there. GR.4 and the Renault, is all I can think of.

As for DTS, I can do without it, but it's a fast track. Wide enough in areas, has Larini and Seaside hairpin and the COD, as challenging spots to get right.

I guess the following week, we'll see something like GR.4 Autopolis or N200 Fuji, N400 at Nurb and a GR.1 race at Le Mans.

 

[Rexracer702]

First race of the week. First 3 laps of Monza in the Mustang, 2 in the Veyron, then jump on my alt, hop in my Hertz rent-a-racer, and off I go. Clean and steady, get up to speed, and start making my way forward. I found that if I was close enough to get a good draft, I could pass the Veyrons on the brakes easily, and even with the draft, I could hold them off as long as I had position, and they didn't get clear before the brake zone. Last 4 laps I fought for 8th with a veyron, and for a bit with a Jag. Many passes back and forth. Clean and fun. Had my shot on the last lap, but I was in the draft into the parabolica, and we both got in too hot. I was pulling on him heading for the finish, but came up .1 short and ended up 9th. Best race in a while, and good fun!

Edit: I forget how the door numbers work, but this was a B room, and I'm currently at 18k on my alt, so I know that much of the field had more DR than me. Somehow I got a #2 door marker.

 

[Groundfish]

I like n100 a lot. There’s tons of great choices, and one makes are close racing. Goodwood is a fantastic track. I should think the AE86 Toyota or 89 Mazda euros or Alpine A110 or Mini, or...
Heck so many cars could be fun there in n100.
S-FR 15...
DYS Seaside will be great as always. Try Ferrari there.

Maggiore gp2 is not a good track for me. I won’t be there unless my sr drops to nothing.
If it were me working for pd I’d choose the AE86 Sprinter true no n100. Fr.

 

[D_Dragline]

Can't call the N100 class. It's at Goodwood. Logically, should be something historically British. Can't remember if we've ever run a British car there. GR.4 and the Renault, is all I can think of.

As for DTS, I can do without it, but it's a fast track. Wide enough in areas, has Larini and Seaside hairpin and the COD, as challenging spots to get right.

I guess the following week, we'll see something like GR.4 Autopolis or N200 Fuji, N400 at Nurb and a GR.1 race at Le Mans.

Goodwood should be the Mini Cooper S. Perfect combo.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Goodwood should be the Mini Cooper S. Perfect combo.

Not that monstrosity please!
The original Mini with a bop like 210/99% would give us the same power/weight ratio as the real racers in the classic mini at Goodwood. The gearbox would be a bit short unless they stretched it's leg but it drives beautiful there

 

[Erebus_9]

Not that monstrosity please!
The original Mini with a bop like 210/99% would give us the same power/weight ratio as the real racers in the classic mini at Goodwood. The gearbox would be a bit short unless they stretched it's leg but it drives beautiful there

I've done a bunch of one-make races in lobbies with the original Mini tuned as fast as it'll go and it's always a heap of fun. Almost like go-karts with a roof. Though, it might not be quite as good in a daily race with the default suspension/diff/gearbox setup and (probably) Comfort or Sport tyres...

 

[toffeetony1]

@toffeetony1 ,

Welcome! Don't worry about your DR. If you got to DR.B you will be able to find your way back there. You can visit Kudosprime. I, like others, include it in my signature below. Be sure to look at your SR too. If that got hit then it may have reset your DR. Ignore the "average" line... it is misleadingly high. It is quite normal for your score to bounce up and down as a new racer.

Just a few messages ago @BalsBrother dispensed some great guidance. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/daily-race-discussion.373268/page-23#post-13388517. As best you can avoid the contact with others where possible even if it means giving up a spot. Let others make mistakes and take advantage.

Circuit Experience and AI is great. Sport Mode is all that but with fellow humans.

Have fun!!!

Thanks both for your replies and advice. I will give the Driving Missions and Circuit Experience a go, I'd skipped over these after finishing Driving School as I was keen to get racing but it's all part of the learning I guess.
I've been checking my DR rating on Kudosprime, it's just really frustrating to see it dropping race after race after poor finishes which are often due to being punted off track. I've also quit a few races this week which I know doesn't help but after being punted off at the Corkscrew then being spun around and dropping from 1st to last place the frustration gets the better of me sometimes!
I will perservere with the Daily Races for now and try to avoid the carnage but it's pretty hard sometimes when the races feel more like Destruction Derby at times. The amount of dive bombing into turn 1 at Laguna Seca is ridiculous and seeing people drive off into the distance with no penalty is really annoying!!
Hopefully I'll get back up to DR B at some point but it feels like a long way off at the moment.
Thanks again for the welcome and advice.

Evertonian, by any chance?

Ha, correct. Guess my username gives it away! Our form is just as frustrating as mine on GT Sport lately...
Nice badge by the way

 

[cactus0]

Hi all, I've been on a forced hiatus for a few weeks as i fractured my wrist, started back this week and it seems the break (pun not intended!) has done me good, I've had a load of podiums at Interlagos in the Peugeot, a car I used to not get on with at all! Maybe there is hope for me in MR cars after all..

Can't call the N100 class. It's at Goodwood. Logically, should be something historically British. Can't remember if we've ever run a British car there. GR.4 and the Renault, is all I can think of.

As for DTS, I can do without it, but it's a fast track. Wide enough in areas, has Larini and Seaside hairpin and the COD, as challenging spots to get right.

I guess the following week, we'll see something like GR.4 Autopolis or N200 Fuji, N400 at Nurb and a GR.1 race at Le Mans.

We have, I got my first sport mode win at Goodwood in the proper mini, will have been last summer sometime
EDIT - just checked, it was early June last year

 

[05XR8]

Man, I just quit that last Race C. Sold my cars and this is what's left in my garage. I'll just wait for the FIA to kick off.

I've had more good than bad races, but even in the good ones, those Veyrons are too slow. If it ain't a straight, they just hold me up in corner entry, apex and exit. Worse when there are a group all trying to fit that big behind car in one spot. Seriously, back off the dang gas and stay in the train until about 3 lasp to go. We're only on Lap 3 and these dudes can't keep it together.

Was berhind struggling Veyrons and they just let the cars that were 5-6 seconds behind, they just caught up. So, I have a 650S that greeted me early in the race. I think it started 5th or something. It's down the bottom with me, in 16th. I have to brake early because the Veyrons brake way early and take forever to go around a corner. Ruins my corner exit. Anyway, I get ahead of the 650S. Into the parabolica, the 650 lightly taps me. We both go wide and that was the last straw. Back to GTA V and AC1 for the rest of the night.

 

[ii_Biggles_ii]

Man, I just quit that last Race C. Sold my cars and this is what's left in my garage. I'll just wait for the FIA to kick off.

I've had more good than bad races, but even in the good ones, those Veyrons are too slow. If it ain't a straight, they just hold me up in corner entry, apex and exit. Worse when there are a group all trying to fit that big behind car in one spot. Seriously, back off the dang gas and stay in the train until about 3 lasp to go. We're only on Lap 3 and these dudes can't keep it together.

Was berhind struggling Veyrons and they just let the cars that were 5-6 seconds behind, they just caught up. So, I have a 650S that greeted me early in the race. I think it started 5th or something. It's down the bottom with me, in 16th. I have to brake early because the Veyrons brake way early and take forever to go around a corner. Ruins my corner exit. Anyway, I get ahead of the 650S. Into the parabolica, the 650 lightly taps me. We both go wide and that was the last straw. Back to GTA V and AC1 for the rest of the night.

Once they ruin the tyres early on there easy and then easy to keep up with but a bugger to get past even in a Veyron with better tyres, I have had to create a pass with pressure as I could see the bunch behind closing in but once past I was 2 seconds up within half a lap on the car I just passed. I find my times just get faster once I save my tyres in the first half of the race.

Sometimes you just need to jump in at the last minute and not think about racing for too long, I was just going to do some daily mileage as usual to see what replica car I would get and with less that a minute to spare decided to do Monza. After 2 laps and some help off the track at one point I decided to stick with as 2 cars ahead were Scirocco's and the guy who ran me off was in a Vantage and running wild ahead so I reckoned tyres would be an issue for all 3, if was worthwhile and had fastest lap until someone pitted 3 laps from home and on new tyres robbed it from me.

 

[BEBOP_Bill]

Not really feeling Sport mode much these days. Finally touched this week's dailies last night and it's been fairly hit or miss. Too many recovery drives to be enjoyable.


The Mazda derby race has the potential to be really good - much better than race C - but some players tend to interpret a 4 lap race as having 4 days left to live. Most of the time, people are trying to keep it clean and I appreciate it.



Monza is straight up painful within the first few laps. Beyond that, you're just fighting the track limits. Much like Sarthe, the penalties are almost "race ending" in a sense. What seems to be a cut worth less than 2 tenths can net you a 1.5 second penalty, which is usually enough to make you lose more than 3 seconds over the course of the race (including having to fight for positions again).



A bit of a nasty feedback loop if you mess it up. If you get overtaken, you push the limits a bit harder, which can net you a penalty, which you then have to fight harder to make up the lost time. I don't think I've had any Monza race that didn't have a track limits penalty.

My first time back racing in about two weeks, just didn't have time. Race A is a great combo and can be a great race, but yeah, its just not fun when nearly everyone is pushing their way through one another or off track. Then my last race of the day was wonderful, had a great 1,2,3 battle for the lead. It was clean, yet competitive and so much fun. It just comes down to who your racing with, hopefully I can race more regularly and I can be back to the level I was and race with everyone (a lot of who are on here) I used to be matched with. If I can still have fun, I'll keep at it

 

[Little_Guppy]

Thanks both for your replies and advice. I will give the Driving Missions and Circuit Experience a go, I'd skipped over these after finishing Driving School as I was keen to get racing but it's all part of the learning I guess.
I've been checking my DR rating on Kudosprime, it's just really frustrating to see it dropping race after race after poor finishes which are often due to being punted off track. I've also quit a few races this week which I know doesn't help but after being punted off at the Corkscrew then being spun around and dropping from 1st to last place the frustration gets the better of me sometimes!
I will perservere with the Daily Races for now and try to avoid the carnage but it's pretty hard sometimes when the races feel more like Destruction Derby at times. The amount of dive bombing into turn 1 at Laguna Seca is ridiculous and seeing people drive off into the distance with no penalty is really annoying!!
Hopefully I'll get back up to DR B at some point but it feels like a long way off at the moment.
Thanks again for the welcome and advice.

And the daily races have been more pushy and bumpy since PD relaxed the penalty system. There are many archived messages over the last few months.

The daily "A" race tends to use slower cars, closer together, grid start, with a slip/draft. It means they will be more punchy. As you go down in the DR and SR it gets, well, a little punchier. Some of it is due to malice. Much of it is just people trying their best, or beyond their limits, and they make lots of mistakes with no ill intent. Forgive and move on.

Try Group 4 if you haven't already. Don't be intimidated by the "Race car" class. There will be a DragonTrail Seaside race "B" next week and that is a good introduction.

Use your mirrors if your view has them. If not, set your DPAD view to show the radar, and use the time deltas to detect when another car is less than 1.0 s behind you.

This is my general advice for new players. Don't quit a game (as you noted). Manage your frustration. Practice and get consistent laps - you will hear that over and over because it is the key ingredient. Avoid retaliation - it just hurts you. Avoid penalties and let others make mistakes. Don't obsess over the DR.

Eventually, you will find what works for you and then follow that.

And there are *definitely* different opinions on the whole forgive/retaliation thing.

 

[Groundfish]

And there are *definitely* different opinions on the whole forgive/retaliation thing.

If it’s a blatant horrible move I tend to off them ASAP. Even if it’s a mistake they ought to be more careful. Whether intentionally dirty or outta control doesn’t matter to me. On alt though I really don’t care most times anymore, unless I get caught up fighting a known problem entity.

So I’ve switched up to corvette. It’s a smooth driver. Since the slight nerf it’s not as OP as it was when I used it for the longest time.
I’m running the blue moon livery if you see me say hello.

The racing’s been clean as a whistle. Great fun in these sprints on B.

 

[Barney Da Dog]

I was quite angry after this! Guy started P10, barged through everyone, and obviously wanted to win fairly with his gracious manoeuvre at the finish.