"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Invisigoth]

I got disqualified. I got bumped at the first turn. Bumped the car ahead. Got 10seconds. Served it. Got another while slipstreaming at the back straight.
Got 3 seconds for what must have been too much curb. Then, I see 33 seconds. And the each second there after. I had 55 seconds and a notice to disqualify. What in thee hell!?!!!

Commiserations mate. You didn't notice them going up? They seem to be messing with things again. At one stage after 10s of penalties it kept going up till you served it or reached 1min. Then they seemed to have eased off that and you could carry more than 10s. Now it sounds like its back again .

 

[TheGeologist]

I hate standing starts. Absolute wreckfest every time.

 

[Veinz]

I hate standing starts. Absolute wreckfest every time.

I think I was just in a race with you. That start was chaos, I went from 5th to the back very quickly!

 

[Sven Jurgens]

GR.2 at Brand's hatch is in my top 5 favorite combos, it's a shame I was feeling off yesterday and only managed to get 3 races in. It was great anyway, made up 8 positions per race. GR.2 feels so good on that track, such nice flow.

The first race was pretty aggressive and I went off twice too concerned about getting hit from behind spending too much time looking in the mirror. The other 2 races went flawless. Penalties seem a bit too relaxed now though.

The second race was also aggressive and someone felt the need to dive bump pass in T2 already while the whole field was trying to get through it carefully. I had to change my line to avoid the diver, he still clipped me, no penalty, then he was hell bent on defending the one position he made up. However he was sloppy, in lap 3 I guess he was feeling the pressure too much and started braking way early for the fast right while there was no one in front of him. I can't avoid (3 bars of lag as well) and bump him slightly, which only brings him back up to the correct speed and he goes through the corner perfectly fine. I get 10 sec penalty....

That showed me the exact different between DR.A and DR.B penalties. The 10 sec is where I bumped a DR.B in the braking zone. In the next race I;m behind a group of 3 that were driving way too close together after the fast right. So I brake a little earlier for the next corner, DR.B behind me hits me, quite a bit harder than when I bumped in the prior race, yet I can hang on, no positions changed, he gets 5 sec, I get one. Usually a softer bump from a DR.B doesn't yield any penalties, yet when it does it seems halved and the DR.A gets a second as well...

Anyway the 1 sec doesn't matter a bit on Brand's hatch as entering the pit normally reduces the penalty by 5 sec. I had one more incident. I was in 4th after the pit stops were done, yet now had faster recovering cars behind me. After T2 I check my mirror, see the car that was following me behind me and move over to the outside. Turns out that was a different car and I almost pushed someone off the track since I had the fuel map up instead of radar. No penalties issued (it's definitely less sensitive now). Damn blind spot. I apologized at the end, he accepted. He made up 2 positions at the finish anyway as I still had 5 sec left from that 10 sec penalty and another car had a penalty as well. I took 6th place. The early bump passer finished in the back, karma.

 

[Invisigoth]

Thought I'd give Blue Moon a go. That was a mistake. Started doing qualifying laps, but figured that I had plenty of time to put in a decent lap. I had a couple of good ones, but they followed penalty laps so the game didn't count them. Then I got distracted by something crawling on my leg. What I thought was a white tailed spider turned out to be a cricket . While I was dealing with that the matching had already happened and the race was about to start. P10 for me, with the two positions behind had no qualifying time.

I held on to P10 till right at the end when I moved off my line to give the person behind room, messed up my braking point and picked up a 5s wall penalty which no amount of braking was going to stop, my car was committed to the slide . Finished P12 (that's also known technically as "last place").

Kept all my SR but lost all the DR I got from the race yesterday. I still have some DR to spend on my holiday in DR/C, so I'll do some sight seeing in the NSX.

 

[TamasToth]

Honestly, I was kind of shocked that I didn't receive any penalties, because normally I would have gotten a 5 second. Maybe they have weakened the system after the last update. I know I made some contact in turn 2, but I felt like I was given much room either.

Now I really missing something. I raced one Suzuka in the morning. Had to defend my position a few times. Received some bump from behind, one was a bit stronger but kept my position. These are the situations where I never felt any penalty has to be judged. This time I didn’t get one (was a little surprise), but the one behind me was clear also (bigger surprise - but don’t get me wrong, I didn’t wish him, shouldn’t feel fair, just based upon previous cases).
And now I see here there are still a lot of dumb penalties for others in other races. What’s going on? Was it adjusted or not? Is it became more random??

(Edit: sorry, I messed up quotes. 2 times )

 

[Zkippe]

The Megane Trophy race is so much fun! Super close racing (and some inevitable bumps), just would've hoped they didn't BOP the car for the one make race. Either way this car has no place in Gr.4 it's just too different from the other 'entry level minimum modifications' race cars. For once it could've been put in Gr.X and used in the Nations Cup as one make race.

 

[TamasToth]

The Megane Trophy race is so much fun! Super close racing (and some inevitable bumps), just would've hoped they didn't BOP the car for the one make race. Either way this car has no place in Gr.4 it's just too different from the other 'entry level minimum modifications' race cars. For once it could've been put in Gr.X and used in the Nations Cup as one make race.

Sure, I also couldn’t get why it had to be BOP-ed for a one make race. I feel its real place should be in Gr.3.

 

[Winnie847]

Yesterday, thanks to Race B at Maggiore and my trusty combo of Evo/911/RCF, I broke through 30,000 points and achieved DR-A. I knew I could, it was just a matter of putting the time in. Now let's see if I can stay here!

One thing I gotta say is that I now feel the pain of the differences in penalties from B to A. It seems like any little bit of contact at all now gives me a penalty, even if it wasn't my fault, even if I get rear-ended hard, I get a 1s penalty. Before, when I was B, if a little contact was made while passing on the inside, usually there was no penalty if it wasn't severe, and if I got rear-ended as a B driver I usually got no penalty. Or if people in front of me have lost control and I either clip them or drive through their ghost, now I get penalties when before there were none. I managed to stay among the S-ranked, but came dangerously close to getting bumped down to A for the first time since making S. I guess all I have to do is get better!

Also, I want to say that I am sorry to the couple people whose races I probably ruined in my quest yesterday, can't remember their names. I had lots of great, clean races, but there were 2 that were just terrible. One of them was entirely my fault and I late-braked into the banked right turn after the long straight while in someone's slipstream. I thought I had it, but just braked a split second too late and rammed somebody who had taken that turn badly and lingered on the exit. The other race, I got rear-ended and then bounced off 3 other cars who probably thought I divebombed them unless they watched the replay. I know these things happen in racing, but I still hate it when I know I might leave the impression of being dirty. I wish I could take back those 2 races and be a little less aggressive and I might have avoided those incidents.

Sorry if any of you guys were in those races and I messed you up, I'm still learning and improving my racecraft, and I owe you one.

also a sidenote: I finished one position ahead of Deafsun in Race B yesterday(how?!). No fault of my own, he was involved in some kind of incident and ended up in the back of the pack trying to make up ground. I finished 4th, he was 5th and gaining on me fast. If there was 1 more lap he may have passed me, but I'll take these small "victories" wherever I can get them.

 

[Invisigoth]

I took on Race B. Did some pre qualification, got to about as good as I could manage, then entered the race. Did a couple of qualifying laps, managed to do a better lap, but it wasn't counted. Wouldn't have made much difference, still would have qualified the same... P6.

So auto drive disengages, I take off after the cars in front and wait for the crash fest that is T1 of NGP. Sure enough I was crunched, but no penalties . I was mugged 2 turns later and sat in P8 for a while, avoiding contact a number of times as the car in P7 weaved all over the place "defending" his position, while the car behind me closed the gap. P7 eventually did a very good impression of a spinning firework . That left me free to try to stay on the track and get some gap happening. Another car went off and I had a 5s gap behind me. Finished P6 .

So DR went back up a bit, SR stayed on 99. My visit to DR/C continues .

 

[TenderLoins]

Race B at Nurb GP was fun this morning minus the first turn heroes in my first race. Ran two races and got pole both times with a 1:49:4. Finished second on the first race after being dive bombed in T1 but was able to maintain P1 the entire 2nd race. Nurb GP is still my favorite track.

 

[ivann]

 

[Krypton78]

Aren't there any other A+ Drivers at Dailys anymore?

First race there was only 1 A+ driver and a few A and rest B drivers. Started on pole but was to afraid from beeing kicked in T1, so braked to late, lost P1 and ended P2.

Second race only a very few A drivers and rest B again. This time I won.

At both races I gained a few DR, but could've lost thousands if I would've been ramed. Therefore higher ranked drivers are sometimes to carefull and dont participate at dailys that much, but with this thinking we make it worse for ourselfes unfortunately.

Yesterday in Brands Hatch I had even in prime time quite mixed 3 of 5 races. Only 2 were strong field, third A+ rest A

Btw, I have SR/99, so it wasnt because I was low SR.

When I think about it, the aliens complain about the 75k cap, but what if that wouldnt be?

Someone with 90k would never participate at dailies because for victory he would gain 50 points and for beeing in the back because of penalty or raming he'd lose 3000 maybe

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Aren't there any other A+ Drivers at Dailys anymore?

First race there was only 1 A+ driver and a few A and rest B drivers. Started on pole but was to afraid from beeing kicked in T1, so braked to late, lost P1 and ended P2.

Second race only a very few A drivers and rest B again. This time I won.

At both races I gained a few DR, but could've lost thousands if I would've been ramed. Therefore higher ranked drivers are sometimes to carefull and dont participate at dailys that much, but with this thinking we make it worse for ourselfes unfortunately.

Yesterday in Brands Hatch I had even in prime time quite mixed 3 of 5 races. Only 2 were strong field, third A+ rest A

Btw, I have SR/99, so it wasnt because I was low SR.

When I think about it, the aliens complain about the 75k cap, but what if that wouldnt be?

Someone with 90k would never participate at dailies because for victory he would gain 50 points and for beeing in the back because of penalty or raming he'd lose 3000 maybe

I'm guessing the people who complain about the cap are those who are already there and don't even arrive at the thought of having Dailies, since the FiA races would give them a much stronger field. It goes both ways in the championship races: On one hand if you win, you gain a ton of DR. If you finish badly though, it's alright you don't lose as much DR

That said, I did expect a number of FiA aliens to go back to dailies now that the champiomship races are gone. I'm still waiting

 

[mclarenLB]

Just give me a DR cap raise and I'll race

 

[mthomas_95]

75k cap means there is still zero reason to race, especially as we now know DR is being used for official events. If you increase the cap we'd have to do the Dailies because everyone else will want to increase their DR as well.

That said it's made it easier to get my team account DR up . Got to 23k and got into top split in Brands Gr2 just after midnight.

 

[garix]

Aren't there any other A+ Drivers at Dailys anymore?

Yesterday I did couple of races at Lago Maggiore GP (GR.3) and had most times mixed A+ (about third of the field), As and some Bs. Even met @Zkippe there who got world famous at Nürburgring live event .

I think today you will find most of them in race C (based on the leaderboard).

 

[DJCarlos]

I ventured onto Sport mode for the first time. Just had two shots at the Blue Moon Lancer race - finished fourth first time, and third the second go.

Not too bad

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Now I really missing something. I raced one Suzuka in the morning. Had to defend my position a few times. Received some bump from behind, one was a bit stronger but kept my position. These are the situations where I never felt any penalty has to be judged. This time I didn’t get one (was a little surprise), but the one behind me was clear also (bigger surprise - but don’t get me wrong, I didn’t wish him, shouldn’t feel fair, just based upon previous cases).
And now I see here there are still a lot of dumb penalties for others in other races. What’s going on? Was it adjusted or not? Is it became more random??

(Edit: sorry, I messed up quotes. 2 times )

Perhaps the sensitivity has been dialed back, yet the incorrect assignment is still the same. On Bluemoon on Friday there were less penalties handed out yet the one that were still as poorly judged as before.
It seemed still as sensitive for DR.A though as a small bump without any consequences netted me an instant 10 sec penalty yesterday. However getting bump passed in T2 (Brand's hatch) didn't give anyone any penalties. Getting hit from behind still gave me 1 sec as usual.

It does seem slight side by side contact is now more allowed, which sucks as it will just invite pushing people out again. PD needs to improve the actual fault detection, not keep dialing the sensitivity up and down every patch.

 

[Crazy Taylor]

Maybe PD need to find another reason for aliens to race. Maybe there needs to be a quota of wins to gain to add to certification of this S rank. Its like when people just did Top 24 races to win a season. Top racers should still have to earn the right to be a top racer instead of just doing some races.

 

[mclarenLB]

When I think about it, the aliens complain about the 75k cap, but what if that wouldnt be?

Someone with 90k would never participate at dailies because for victory he would gain 50 points and for beeing in the back because of penalty or raming he'd lose 3000 maybe

Just to address this quickly, its wayyyy easier to maintain 75k in dailies than in FIA, whenever I lose 75k, going to play dailies is like a free reset to get it back, the reason why I don't do dailies AT 75k is because you don't stand to gain anything, there's no progression there. If the cap was raised or removed I'd absolutely try and push it as far as it would go.

 

[DriftMethod]

This is a weird period for dailies, at least in the Americas region. The past dozen or so daily races I've been in have had at most 3 A+ drivers, usually just 1 or 2. Matching drivers from A+ to D in just about every race.

One race that I won only added 36 DR points. That's the lowest I've received, so must be even worse for higher rated drivers. Then again, like mentioned, A+ drivers are getting to be a rare breed in daily races. Even more dangerous with some top drivers building up new accounts.

For now, I will probably use my alternate region accounts, since they don't matter to me. I still really enjoy the daily races, especially Gr. 2, so can't stay away completely.

 

[TamasToth]

Aren't there any other A+ Drivers at Dailys anymore?

There are. I was matchmaked in Daily C with 4 or 5 A+, 2 B and the rest of A (as I am).
As far as I remember, one of the A+ was that "smart" muppet who wanted to play the cheap ghosting-unghosting trick I was reading here. He must have been messing up something, got a penalty cap, slowed down and ghosted, and - what a surprise - coming out of ghost quite quickly in the middle of the racing line, just when I arrived behind him. Luckily I was reading here about this cheat, so I pass round every ghost now...
So even if I'm not missing them at all, they are there

Getting hit from behind still gave me 1 sec as usual.

That's weird. I'm also Dr:A/Sr:S, and didn't get anything for these received bumps - nor the one behind didn't get anything. Strange. Seems not too consequent.

 

[zocker_16]

Aren't there any other A+ Drivers at Dailys anymore?

Yes there are still some A+ drivers in Dailys

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• zocker_16
• Jun 3, 2018

 

[supervento]

 

[mthomas_95]

Maybe PD need to find another reason for aliens to race. Maybe there needs to be a quota of wins to gain to add to certification of this S rank. Its like when people just did Top 24 races to win a season. Top racers should still have to earn the right to be a top racer instead of just doing some races.

Wins is a meaningless statistic really. I've been in top split since launch so 'only' have just shy of 60 wins (my win rate is just over 20% still), if I deliberately get my SR down to A I could pick up lots of cheap easy wins to make any quota.

 

[Invisigoth]

Just to address this quickly, its wayyyy easier to maintain 75k in dailies than in FIA, whenever I lose 75k, going to play dailies is like a free reset to get it back, the reason why I don't do dailies AT 75k is because you don't stand to gain anything, there's no progression there. If the cap was raised or removed I'd absolutely try and push it as far as it would go.

Yeh, but, I think the point of the DR points is not about game progression. It's about trying to match people in races of similar levels.

 

[zocker_16]

Well things getting competitive today.
This was for sure one of the best starting grids i´ve ever had at daily races
6 Top 10 drivers and less than 1 sec in qualifying time between 1st and 15th.
My time which was also good enough for Top 10 a couple of hours ago gave me the 11th place to start from.
Managed to finish on 6th place but had no chance to go the alien pace in front.

 

[Veinz]

Did almost 500km worth of racing with the megane on suzuka today, my brain needs a break.

 

[supervento]

**** this game and penalty