"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[fastone371]

I think a major contribution to this problem on RBR is the lack of track limits. There is no clearly defined method of taking turn one. The braking point for running way wide is totally different than if you mean to stay within the white lines. So counting the people who mean to go only slightly wide you have 20 cars barreling toward turn one with 3 different intentions.
On the discussion of full damage or front damage only what is to stop people from brake checking you so you have front end damage if they notice you threatening their 12th place finish.

Brake checking shouldn't matter if the car has to be in the braking zones for punts to cause damage. Some turns wouldn't even need defined brake zones so no damage would be possible.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Haha did exactly the same, went to play pc2 with myself

Hahahahahhahahahaa been doing that the past few weeks as i have not seen a "daily" I have liked. Tolerating Yamigawa II but man it was good to belt around Road America, proper damn race track.

Speaking of Race B, picked up a win last night, mostly because i was paired with C and D drivers and the only other b driver lost it BIIIIIIIIIIIG time in the esses. never ceases to amaze me how one can belt around in qualifying for 20 laps, think you've done the best you can then wheel out the Porsche and go 0.7 to 1.0 seconds faster. Qualy down to a mid 1.35 but that's absolutely ON THE EDGE for me.

 

[DaveyGravy]

Heres my lap. 1.33.904. TC is set to 1. Far from perfect I know, but hopefully kinda shows what I was trying to explain.



There's time to be made and I don't normally use TC, but I was that inconsistent when I was pushing, I set it to 1 so I could do lap after lap and get a flow going.

That's a nice lap! Interesting to see the use of light TC - I watched a few of the top laps the other day to try and understand where I was losing time (everywhere!) and they all seem to have counter-steer assistance on, but no TC.

I switched on CSA and have improved my time, but only down to a 1:35.1

 

[Invisigoth]

Speaking of Race B, picked up a win last night, mostly because I was paired with C and D drivers

You 🤬 ! I just did Race B and I qualified P10/14. I was one of only 4 DR/D, and the only SR/A. The other 10 were all DR/B, SR/B .

It was not exactly a fun experience, but I managed to finish P9 (crossed P8).

SR neutral and gained nearly 40 DR. Another day above DR 1 .

 

[NevilleNobody]

You 🤬 ! I just did Race B and I qualified P10/14. I was one of only 4 DR/D, and the only SR/A. The other 10 were all DR/B, SR/B .

It was not exactly a fun experience, but I managed to finish P9 (crossed P8).

SR neutral and gained nearly 40 DR. Another day above DR 1 .

As with Brands i am finding my qualy time is making the system go bezerk. Last night i qualified anywhere from 2nd to 10th and paired with anyone from DRB through D but mostly SRB.

Often i was all by myself too, so say top four with 1.34.8s, me at a 1.35.6 then a bunch of 1.37.8 to 38's. Weird.

What's your current qualy time?

 

[Darwock]

I had a couple of decent race Bs - went from 9th to 6th with a clean race, and then 10th to 4th but having been bumped from behind numerous times (so dropped SR by 4). I have no doubt that I was being conservative on the braking points, perhaps catching people out, but that is the method by which I was moving up positions - I kept lapping safely when the others were throwing themselves into the gravel traps. Am I at fault for all the rear contact or were those guys just too aggressive/impatient?

Incidentally I get through the fast downhill S-bends in the Lancer with a lift of the gas at the top of the hill, picking it up again on the final kerb. I was being pursued by a GT-R and 911 that must have been taking them flat out by the rate they gained on me. Is that possible?

I was tempted to do one more race to finish the day with my SR back at 99, but it's like gambling - better quit when you're ahead, and I finished 1000 DR points up.

 

[NevilleNobody]

I had a couple of decent race Bs - went from 9th to 6th with a clean race, and then 10th to 4th but having been bumped from behind numerous times (so dropped SR by 4). I have no doubt that I was being conservative on the braking points, perhaps catching people out, but that is the method by which I was moving up positions - I kept lapping safely when the others were throwing themselves into the gravel traps. Am I at fault for all the rear contact or were those guys just too aggressive/impatient?

100% their fault, it's a tricky track and very easy to come unstuck, usually half the field loses it at some point so braking a touch early is sensible, give yourself some margin. But as soon as you do you get hit and your SR drops which is just insane.

 

[fastone371]

100% their fault, it's a tricky track and very easy to come unstuck, usually half the field loses it at some point so braking a touch early is sensible, give yourself some margin. But as soon as you do you get hit and your SR drops which is just insane.

If PD in their infinite wisdom is giving SR down for getting tapped in braking zones shouldn't they supply us with a rearview mirror in all driving camera options?? I am beginning to think the folks at PD are a whole slower than a Sambus amongst a field of GR 1 cars

 

[Mr616]

That's a nice lap! Interesting to see the use of light TC - I watched a few of the top laps the other day to try and understand where I was losing time (everywhere!) and they all seem to have counter-steer assistance on, but no TC.

I switched on CSA and have improved my time, but only down to a 1:35.1

I don't like the feel of CSA, and don't really use TC as a rule.

I've found the trick to being quicker round here is not over driving. Carry as much corner speed as possible, especially exiting the mid lap chicane that takes you up the hill, and be patient on throttle out of the two hairpins.

 

[Invisigoth]

What's your current qualy time?

I'm a true DR/D who occasionally has a peek at the bottom end of DR/C, so 1:39.5 with the M3. Being stuck on a grid of nearly all DR/Bs kinda sucks.

 

[stpatty]

The Toyota FT-1 seems like a good car for B. I've never really driven it and had the pace for a 1:35.600 in my first race in it.

 

[NevilleNobody]

I'm a true DR/D who occasionally has a peek at the bottom end of DR/C, so 1:39.5 with the M3. Being stuck on a grid of nearly all DR/Bs kinda sucks.

You can do better than that, i'm sure of it. I used the M3 too, it can turn a quick time but is very unsettled over bumps, try the Jag, it's a lot more user friendly and you will be more confident. Lots and lots of time to be found in sector 1 alone, especially T1 and T2.

 

[Winnie847]

Raced a handful of times at Red Bull Ring yesterday. It seems like the faster, twitchier cars are what I’m best at, but that Red Bull Standard can get tough to handle when the tires wear. I was able to set the #31 time in Americas region so I usually got pole or P2...but there weren’t many people in Race C last night, so the races weren’t the best. Lots of quitters. Basically if I didn’t go off track podium was almost guaranteed, but in a few races I binned it multiple times and still ended up in 2nd or even 1st. At one point I took a big SR hit then had to recover to 99. For a moment it felt like I was about to keep spiraling down amongst some dirty drivers battling and bleeding SR, but was able to turn it around. Had a few wins too, and some good 1-on-1 battles with some clean drivers. I’ll be back online some probably tonight and Saturday, so I hope to see some of you around.

It was nice to see @NosOsH on the track again, it had been awhile. Nice close finish we had, still kicking myself for not burning that penalty all the way. That was a terrible race for me, lol. Nice job

 

[05XR8]

Just realised I moved up to A/S. Been a long time.

 

[rono_thomas]

So have raced a few races on B today, was behind this one chap and his brake lights were behaving strangely in the right hand sweepers, flashing on and off and on quicker than I could ever press a button, turns out he’s using auto brake and his pole time is ranked 24th (was). 👎👎.

His DR rating was A+, maybe a controversial opinion but aids like that should be unavailable.

 

[Mr616]

The beetles in race B Everywhere you look there's beetles , apart from x1 M3 and x1 FT1...... and me in 911 in my last lobby.

Just had 2 bad races, so I'm calling it a night and getting smashed instead

 

[zzz_pt]

Looking at the Race B TT World Leaderboard, @Tidgney still holds the record with a 1:32.444 set in a Beetle Gr.3 as of this post.

I'm surprised that Shooter's still not out there to demolish his record...

World | LIVE board
# Time Player Ctry Gap Gap %
1 01:32.335 L-Shooter_RB26

Japan 00.000 +0.000%
2 01:32.428 chonko_213

Japan 00.093 +0.101%
3 01:32.444 GTA_Tidgney

United Kingdom 00.109 +0.118%

 

[svenvangent]

Suggested gear.

OooooK .... I see thank you Rono Thomas
Next thing that will come as a suggestion is ..... how to do pipi

 

[Alpha Cipher]

So have raced a few races on B today, was behind this one chap and his brake lights were behaving strangely in the right hand sweepers, flashing on and off and on quicker than I could ever press a button, turns out he’s using auto brake and his pole time is ranked 24th (was). 👎👎.

His DR rating was A+, maybe a controversial opinion but aids like that should be unavailable.

The fu...? How is autobrake a faster assist 👎

 

[Suntek]

The fu...? How is autobrake a faster assist 👎

Guess he figured where it will give him advantage. I'm guessing taking the right line makes the braking only doing enough of taps to avoid crashing out but maintain speed.

 

[rono_thomas]

The fu...? How is autobrake a faster assist 👎

I have absolutely no idea. I saved the replay because sector 1,2 and 3 I was a lot quicker but then he was blowing me in sector 4. Which always meant he was breaking the slipstream, he’s full throttle from turn 7 to the finish line, his net gain over me was always more than I could catch, but he’s A+, i usually dont care play how you want to play use whatever aid but this annoyed me today.

 

[RZQSPEED]

World | LIVE board
# Time Player Ctry Gap Gap %
1 01:32.335 L-Shooter_RB26

Japan 00.000 +0.000%
2 01:32.428 chonko_213

Japan 00.093 +0.101%
3 01:32.444 GTA_Tidgney

United Kingdom 00.109 +0.118%

Your record has been beaten, @Tidgney!

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Daily Race B, 04:30 Room.

Qualified 2/10 (someone didn't make it past the matchmaking screen) in my RCZ with a time of 1:34.002 (OPT: 1:33.677). I definetly had more pace than the polesitter in a Beetle. But I decided to play safe (i.e. not divebombing into him), which is the reason why I'm still in 2nd, despite setting the Fastest Lap of the race. This is also the first time not using 0 BB, as I used -2 BB for my RCZ, which makes it a lot more stable under braking. At the end though, smart racing prevails over winning at all costs!

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Daily Race B, 10:50 Room

Pole position! Again, someone didn't make it past the matchmaking screen, so there are 13 drivers in the lobby, populated by B/S drivers. Nothing happened here, except I got my first victory since Dailies become Weeklies. I used the RSR for this one.

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Daily Race B, 11:10 Room

Pole position, again! This time, the lobby is full, plus that I used the Beetle for this race. Unfortunately during Lap 1, I had issues with The Meeting Point, allowing the FT-1 to get past. And then that's how the race ended. I finished 2nd. And I ruined my Clean Race streak...

 

[Tidgney]

Your record has been beaten, @Tidgney!

Don't worry, I've got time in the bank on that lap yet !

 

[GA 52]

I'm a true DR/D who occasionally has a peek at the bottom end of DR/C, so 1:39.5 with the M3. Being stuck on a grid of nearly all DR/Bs kinda sucks.

Am I right if there are much less people racing today then since I have the same experience. Been Dr.D drive for a while now and this entire week (once a day race) we're stuck with A/A+ and B in the front of me at the starting grid. Just wonder why it is like this, as it's kind a unfair. (my opinion)

 

[Riptide]

Am I right if there are much less people racing today then since I have the same experience. Been Dr.D drive for a while now and this entire week (once a day race) we're stuck with A/A+ and B in the front of me at the starting grid. Just wonder why it is like this, as it's kind a unfair. (my opinion)

Just much less players at the moment doing these races due to top players stay away to prepare for next weekend Nations in Madrid and in general the reverse tracks does not seem popular either, so much less players to do matchmaking.

 

[bone_tone]

Am I right if there are much less people racing today then since I have the same experience. Been Dr.D drive for a while now and this entire week (once a day race) we're stuck with A/A+ and B in the front of me at the starting grid. Just wonder why it is like this, as it's kind a unfair. (my opinion)

Did a few Race A yesterday, and nearly every race had one of the top 10 guys in it - usually at least 3 seconds a lap faster than everyone else in the race!

 

[sundaydriving]

Any indication what next weeks races are yet?

Will there be anyone left to race after the SR carnage this week?

 

[NevilleNobody]

Brutal Race B last night, three races and was tagged three times at three different spots, people just being way, way too aggressive.

 

[Pfei]

Brutal Race B last night, three races and was tagged three times at three different spots, people just being way, way too aggressive.

Same here. I noticed something very odd. I am A/S and the rooms had a mix of A and B drivers with low 1:33 qualy times. I mean, like the TOP TEN were all sub- 1:34. With my 1:35 flat I was starting near the back. The thing is, once the race started, no one could break away. The leaders were slow. The whole pack was so bunched up that all 15 cars would finish lap 1 with only a 2 second gap across the entire field. That's when everyone started getting impatient (including me). I did five races. All were like that. And in all 5 I got spun around by impatient people.

The fastest race laps weren't even close to 1:33s. In one race the fastest lap was even a low 1:35! Despite finishing close to last in every race my race pace would have put me in podium or win contention on pace alone (WITHOUT SLIPSTREAM!) in every single race.

So I think what was going on last night was that you had a bunch of mediocre drivers who practiced for hours in the meta car until they got that magic lap, and then went into the race with a car they are more comfortable with and were completely off the pace. It was terrible.

Between last night and the total dive-bomb fest that suddenly infected Fuji Gr. 4 last Sunday I have dropped 8,500 DR. For Pete's sake in the Fuji race there were times I had pole, 2 seconds faster than 2nd place, and I couldn't finish on the podium. I was taken out every race on the first corner, and then couldn't get past anyone because of the erratic driving and, if I did get next to someone, it was an instant punt into never-never land.

Been a frustrating 5 days for me in GTS. I think this is the biggest problem with the weekly format. Too many magical laps and pole farming that just ends up putting inconsistent racers in front and steady/clean racers midfield/back of pack and we all end up taking each other out after getting fed up of racing in a pack 4 seconds of our normal race pace due to the fact that the leaders in race trim are light years behind their magical qualy lap.

I did do a couple Bs this morning and it was "normal", so I hope last night was just a one-off.

 

[fastone371]

Is pole farming a thing? I have always wondered about that because I watch race replays and see drivers that qualified in front of me and they drive awful and their whole dash blinks like an Xmas because they use every aid available. I dont see how anyone can be fast with ASM.