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We need penalty zones ASAP!!!

Where though on the N24. The final straight is the only place safe enough to have speeding up cars unghosting at any moment. It would be good punishment to slow everyone with a penalty down at the start of the final straight. If only the penalties were dished out correctly!
 
Made me laugh that in qualify u can run penalty off into a corner but in race not ..
Should be same as FIA race but as said SORT THE PENALTY SYSTEM OUT not good when you have some dive bomer give you a penalty when your trying to have a clean race ..
 
Where though on the N24. The final straight is the only place safe enough to have speeding up cars unghosting at any moment. It would be good punishment to slow everyone with a penalty down at the start of the final straight. If only the penalties were dished out correctly!
Good point, I think there should be more than one zone on Nordschleife and I think they would have to make it that you stay ghosted if serving a penalty and slowed until unghosting presents no hazard to others.
If that means you got screwed for more time oh well don’t get penalties on Nordschleife!
Tbh I though the ORIGINAL system was fine, except for people getting punted getting penalized.
Too much bad press caused them to change it up.
Now it’s far too lenient imo.

I will keep racing though and still love this game! I don’t feel it’s a fault of the game that this week I don’t care for the track in b.
The last couple weeks have been some of my most fun races ever, Suzuka, Catalunya, Dragon Trail Seaside 2...
I hope that they continue to evolve the penalty system. Right now it’s too lenient.
I think the penalties should be more strict. I look at PD like a ref in any sport. Hard place to be, but you have to ensure cheating is minimized...
 
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Have the developers changed something on the penalty system? Yesterday I rode race B several times. It was always a mess with lots of ramming and divebombing. The problem was that the rammer and dive bomber were not punished. The punishments got their victims. I am e.g. brutally rammed in T2 from the track and got 5 secondary penalty. The Rammer got no punishment and had a blue S at the end. In other incidents it was the same. After I did that, I realized why many drive so aggressively. The game rewards at least on this route the whole ram and divebombing. The perpetrators win positions and the victims are punished. Therefore my question: is that only on this route so or was something generally changed on the penalty system?
 

Congrats, almost three in a row ;) !

Time trialing and comparing to others has always been big fun to me. Laptimes posted here on the planet often were an incentive to improve.
The downside now is that, whenever I spot a quick lap, my first thought is ( and I can't help that ) How did he do it ? CSA involved ? Did he use the wide line at RBR T1 ? and all that stuff :rolleyes: ...

Anyway, great laps and great consistency 👍 !
 
Next weeks races are up:

A: Gr.4 (car provided) - Lago Maggiore Centre - 10 laps
B: Gr.3 - Interlagos - 5 laps
C: Gr.1 - Monza (no chicane) - 11 laps - RS, RM, RH

The last 2 combos were both used in the Nations cup world final (though we have had gr.3 at Interlagos quite recently as a weekly race)
 
I had this today ;



Wondered was it 'really' me as I was the only one penalised.



Was it really me, we messaged after, but what a to do :odd:
 
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Next weeks races are up:

A: Gr.4 (car provided) - Lago Maggiore Centre - 10 laps
B: Gr.3 - Interlagos - 5 laps
C: Gr.1 - Monza (no chicane) - 11 laps - RS, RM, RH

The last 2 combos were both used in the Nations cup world final (though we have had gr.3 at Interlagos quite recently as a weekly race)

Well next week is a good week to be "offline" - I can see Race A/C being DR/SR loss central so I guess it's Interlagos for me...
 
I had this today ;



Wondered was it 'really' me as I was the only one penalised.



Was it really me, we messaged after, but what a to do :odd:


I meant exactly those cases with my question concerning the penalty system. For me, it looks like the developers have changed something fundamental on the penalty system. The system is now worse than at the beginning.
 
Used the Cayman versus the Huracan squadron. Moved up two spots from 7th. Got my inside line to T2 muscled because the Huracan behind just wouldn't concede me being ahead of it. I went hard on the brakes and let the three of them figure it out.
Then, I get a bit escorted to left so as to lose my clean bonus.

Flashed my lights as if that'll show 'em. Just kept my cool and hit my marks. Passed one. Then, another and then passed the one that escorted me off. That felt good and that Hurapain had nothing for me in the entry to the esses. Good car. Now, it's Scirocket time!
 
I had this today ;



Wondered was it 'really' me as I was the only one penalised.



Was it really me, we messaged after, but what a to do :odd:


That's simply the game not knowing racing rules. There is contact, the other car goes off road, you get a penalty. It's been like that for months.

The rules are very simple. Any contact, one car goes off road (or comes from off road, cause and effect are not looked at) and the other car gets a penalty. When more than 2 cars are involved it's usually the last one to make contact and stay on the road that gets the penalty.

When both stay on the road you get the SR Down notification. Even if you don't get the notification you still lose SR though. Any contact costs SR. Justice is blind and stupid.
 
This Americas region separation is asinine: https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gtsport/news/00_5485144.html

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"To allow for a better online racing experience for players who are geographically located in very distant places, we will be changing the matchmaking regions of the Sport mode from the current three regions (Europe/Middle East/Africa, North/Central/South Americas, and Asia/Oceania) to five."

I live in Argentina and race with a USA account (I am a US citizen and Argentine accounts didn't even exist when I signed up for PSN). I will still be one of those "geographically located in very distant places" guys. I don't get what they're trying to do here. PD just doesn't understand that there are people all over the world that play with US accounts and this will not mitigate lag at all. If anything, US/Canada races will remain laggy with people like me who are far away while the latin american countries will continue suffering the same laggy connections due to distance from the servers.

On top of that, this will kill Sport Mode in the Americas. Attendence and DR spreads are already bad enough due to small player count. Now we will probably also end up with huge SR spreads just to fill the grids.
 
Sometimes you have to get over yourself and just race. I stuck with my .38.1 qual time and entered up.
First race I was matched into a weak room starting fourth. All was fine, I was up into second by lap 2 and pushing exit on turn 4 I curb ride and literally get 1/3 of the rr off!
“This is not good Mav this is not good!”
Ended up on the infield grass, near last. I was unable to complete more than one overtake though. Finished bad. I was behind the pack of slower drivers and it’s just not worth it to race them hard. Penalties flying all over... Ok, I thought I will try again even though I just lost 1000 dr.
This time I am matched into a fast room with some a and s.
I begin in the 8 spot. Things are fine and clean and I slowly work up to seventh. I am pressuring sixth. Apparently my slow qual time has nothing to do with a solid racing pace on this track. So her I am last lap approaching the braking zone turn 1 and he’s ghosted? I didn’t realize he was burning penalty time.
So I am getting closer and by the approach to the hairpin he ghosts again right in middle of road. There’s no obvious line I can take and I have to slow because I don’t want to smash into an unghosting car!
So because of this guy slowing me cars behind are getting closer. I exit hairpin and check behind there’s a car way back. I take my normal line wide under braking. As I am trying to turn in I am getting shoved wider and have to slam the brakes!?
Boom! A Brazilian dirty driver just tried to punt me! I’m on him, and seriously considering evil, but the damn Huracan that had been behind me from earlier as a fair opportunity and got an exit run.
I think what happened to the gentleman drivers behind me was that this dirty guy came out sweet after some contact in I think turn one in which he may have barged by. Not sure, not gonna check the replay.
So anyways, I have to slow more to avoid this mess and now at end of straight people are trying to run 3 wide on me! I’ve literally gone sixth to tenth in less than half a lap. So I late trail it very hard squealing it the whole way and get back eight by the line!
Were These 2 races fun? I dunno. I do know with my only 200 gained dr from the last I’m done. Down 800 dr sr 99.
This track is not one of my favorites. For this track the corvette is a great car imo. Very hard to punt luckily for me or I’d be down more sr.
I must say everyone in the last race was high quality except 2. One the guy burning penalties effectively brake checking me to heck with his ghosting. The dirty sob Brazilian never would have caught up if not for him.
So those two ruined a great whole lobby.
We need penalty zones ASAP!!!


Don't worry. Pretty soon you won't have to worry about the Brazilians anymore if I read the newest Sport mode update correctly.

Keith.

P.S. Ooops......too slow again on the keyboard! :)
 
This Americas region separation is asinine: https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gtsport/news/00_5485144.html

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"To allow for a better online racing experience for players who are geographically located in very distant places, we will be changing the matchmaking regions of the Sport mode from the current three regions (Europe/Middle East/Africa, North/Central/South Americas, and Asia/Oceania) to five."

I live in Argentina and race with a USA account (I am a US citizen and Argentine accounts didn't even exist when I signed up for PSN). I will still be one of those "geographically located in very distant places" guys. I don't get what they're trying to do here. PD just doesn't understand that there are people all over the world that play with US accounts and this will not mitigate lag at all. If anything, US/Canada races will remain laggy with people like me who are far away while the latin american countries will continue suffering the same laggy connections due to distance from the servers.

On top of that, this will kill Sport Mode in the Americas. Attendence and DR spreads are already bad enough due to small player count. Now we will probably also end up with huge SR spreads just to fill the grids.
Not a fan of this change, or the FIA one at all.
 
I don't dare using kerbs in that section, too easy to spin or lose traction, no good for tires either. I brake early through there :) You don't need to lift for the slight right on softs, unless you touch an edge.

And also for the help from others. Only had one other race, and I have a problem with my hands too, so I had to lighten the force on my wheel, the car feels different now, but I'll get used to it. Anyway I used the softs and had an easy field with only a few A drivers, and I got the lead after the first corner sand turned down the power a bit straight away ... then the three last straights of the F1 track I put it on full power, and then just before braking zI turns the power down by two positions. I stuck to the bitumen and then full power when the fast bit came up, then under brakes for the big curing right hander down went the power. I had about 1.2 second lead. If the closed the gap I upped the power. I stuck to the bitumen and drove safe. I opened up the power for that Pflanzgarten I, Sprunghügel and Pflanzgarten II area, was careful through the corner before the kleines Karussell and then a nice drive down the long straight. Into the pits and I put some extra fuel in because I hate the warning that I have to pit the next lap despite there not being one. I lost ground in the pitstop but not the lead. When they got close I just opened up the power, and the 2nd car lost it. The new second car was going gang busters but I was just enough in front to not worry after the main straight, and I got a win.

Did not gain many points because of the lack of talent but I felt a lot better. Wish I had used softs all along. Thanks guys.

That's my tire wear in the Lexus after 1 lap
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Hah hah my Porsche - after racing with softs at last - was much much less. I'd say less than half the wear. But I was not driving hard.

How do you take that photo by the way??? I am still new to this and my long ago PS3 experience was using my son's one. This PS4 is my son's hand me down (although I did pay him for it - stupid me).

I also had 48 fuel left ... hmmm ... but i put a fair bit more in hoping to avoid the read lettering about refuelling. I don't think it worked, but it came late in the race I think ...

Why can't we change tyres before the start, after you see the grid??? Heck if I am back in 10th place, maybe its better to switch to hards, safe fuel in all the traffic, and not stop.
 
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Hah hah my Porsche - after racing with softs at last - was much much less. I'd say less than half the wear. But I was not driving hard.

How do you take that photo by the way??? I am still new to this and my long ago PS3 experience was using my son's one. This PS4 is my son's hand me down (although I did pay him for it - stupid me).

I also had 48 fuel left ... hmmm ... but i put a fair bit more in hoping to avoid the read lettering about refuelling. I don't think it worked, but it came late in the race I think ...

Why can't we change tyres before the start, after you see the grid??? Heck if I am back in 10th place, maybe its better to switch to hards, safe fuel in all the traffic, and not stop.

There is a share button on your ds4, on the left. In settings you can go to "sharing and broadcats" then to Share button control type. Change that to easy screenshots and you only have to tap the share button to take a screenshot. They will appear in the capture gallery sorted by game. Then you can either copy them to a usb stick or hold the share button down on the screenshot to upload to a linked facebook or twitter account. Then you can crop it on pc or laptop, upload to picpar and paste the link here.

You can change the tires before the warm up is finished. The option should be on the bottom of the screen. (Disappears when warm-up is complete, changes will be undone if you are not finished yet)

You can't get rid of the fuel warning, I just spam stop fueling while in the pit as it won't let you leave with too little, I always have fuel left over.
 
I live in Argentina and race with a USA account (I am a US citizen and Argentine accounts didn't even exist when I signed up for PSN). I will still be one of those "geographically located in very distant places" guys. I don't get what they're trying to do here. PD just doesn't understand that there are people all over the world that play with US accounts and this will not mitigate lag at all. If anything, US/Canada races will remain laggy with people like me who are far away while the latin american countries will continue suffering the same laggy connections due to distance from the servers.

This wouldn't even be a problem at all if Sony got their **** together and finally allow us to change our accounts nationality.

It's ****ing asinine how PSN is over 10 years old but still doesn't offer that option...And we have to pay to use its services, on top of it all.
 
This Americas region separation is asinine: https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gtsport/news/00_5485144.html

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"To allow for a better online racing experience for players who are geographically located in very distant places, we will be changing the matchmaking regions of the Sport mode from the current three regions (Europe/Middle East/Africa, North/Central/South Americas, and Asia/Oceania) to five."

I live in Argentina and race with a USA account (I am a US citizen and Argentine accounts didn't even exist when I signed up for PSN). I will still be one of those "geographically located in very distant places" guys. I don't get what they're trying to do here. PD just doesn't understand that there are people all over the world that play with US accounts and this will not mitigate lag at all. If anything, US/Canada races will remain laggy with people like me who are far away while the latin american countries will continue suffering the same laggy connections due to distance from the servers.

On top of that, this will kill Sport Mode in the Americas. Attendence and DR spreads are already bad enough due to small player count. Now we will probably also end up with huge SR spreads just to fill the grids.

It will help with the lag yet indeed there aren't enough people on in the americas as it is. I do get better ping times to UK/Spain/Germany etc than to Argentina and Brazil from Canada.

It's going to be boring without South Americans to blame.
 
It will help with the lag yet indeed there aren't enough people on in the americas as it is. I do get better ping times to UK/Spain/Germany etc than to Argentina and Brazil from Canada.

It's going to be boring without South Americans to blame.

It will not help with lag because I'll still be racing in USA with a connection from Argentina. There are countless players all over the world that play with US accounts. The only improvement I see here is for South America if a Brazil server is opened. But then again, Mexicans and central americans will suffer more lag than before since they are closer to USA than they are to Brazil.
 
Some race to remember, some race to forget... welcome to the Hotel Nurburgring. You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave... :p. Gave the Viper another shot. When I tried qualifying the other night, I couldn't find any major difference between the three compounds. Big difference with the M3, worth at least 10s for me. but the Viper, not the way I drive :lol:. I actually preferred the handling of the hards. Also discovered that in some places I was braking, I could do better by feeding in the throttle.

I did a lap where I could see I had the potential of matching my M3 time, but time was running out so I just had to cheat and let the game impose my M3 time on the matching. I am still of the belief that if you change cars, you should qualify again. Anyhoo, that got me P6/18 on a mixed grid of DR/A, B, C and D. The DR/D on pole was a bit suspect... 7s clear of the DR/A in P2. My time was 27s down from pole :eek:.

I decided to go with hards, short shift the fast bits and just take on fuel. Auto drive quits and the dash for crash is on! i got nudged at T1 by someone being optimistic, but didn't get knocked off and managed to squeeze myself round T2 in slow motion. I managed to maintain a 2s gap entering the Nordschleife. I got passed a crashed car and into 5th. Somewhere between Tiergarten and Hocheichen the guy behind me caught up and had overlap on the inside. I pulled aside and we went round the corner side by side as he slowly slipped by nice and clean 👍. I pitted P6 with 0.8 of a lap left in the tank from short shifting alone.

I came out of the pits P5 with a 15s lead and it didn't take long for me to start haemorrhaging time because of tyre wear. Unlike those who claim a no stop of softs, I was struggling with hards! The 15s lead evaporated and eventually I was caught, by the same guy who passed me before. Again a nice clean pass. He finished 20s ahead of me. My race ended in P6, 5s clear the the guy behind.

SR still on max. DR up about 730. 3 more pts to another adventure to DR/C :scared:. Another day above DR 1 :D.
 
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Wow - can't believe Oceana is going to be a seperate zone.

Heck - we don't have many players at all. So I haven't qualified for several days and I am now 360th in the zone 3 - that includes Japan, Malaysia, Indonesia, China, Phillippines, Aussie land and the Kiwis (New Zealanders). Thats ... lets say 1.3 billion for China, 80 mill for japan ... Indonesia is 300 million ... Malaysia is I don't know - 40 million? Altogether ... over 2 billion people. I am 350th ... that means I am in the top 0.0000175% of that population. Guys - I am likely better than all of you out of my zone (despite not being very good).

But out of Australia / NZ - lets say 4.6 million for NZ +24.6 m for Ozzie = approx 30 million in a couple of years - I am right now 46th in Australia for the ring' plus 6 NZ'rs better than me that makes me 52nd out of 30 million ... so that means I am now 0.000173% best. Hmm ... that means I am a whole order of 10 less good. In other words, my previous excellence has just been divided by 10 - I am one 10th as good as I was being in the Asian zone.

Us Auzzies and Kiwis are just loosers as PD has just confirmed (except for the "All Blacks" & the NZ Auld Mug yachties but then who plays those silly games) - just ask Brendon Hartley - how unjust was that - as fast as the crying team mate who goes to the Red Bull super car and Hartley will almost be driving tram cars next year and asking how being decent and not being European really means your condemned.

Still the racing should be better actually ... but I suspect our pool will be far too shallow. Late at night or early in the morning there have been only Japanese at times.
 
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Still the racing should be better actually ... but I suspect our pool will be far too shallow. Late at night or early in the morning there have been only Japanese at times.

It's a bad move of PDs part. When I race there might be another Aussie or two on the grid, but it's usually Japanese. I don't believe racing will be better, because on grids where I have seen more Australians, they have been far too aggressive and all too eager to push you out of the way. The only time I have seen grids of Aussies in any number was when I was dropped down to SR/B. I just don't think there will be enough players at any one time for the grids to be balanced.
 
I've had one or two Australians in my last 4 races. Slim pickings at this time of night/morning. Next week will be interesting...
 
Really curious what their reasoning is.

If it is for stability reasons, then this doesn't solve the problem, it merely masks it and creates the new problem of smaller playerbases.
 
Lots of great races yesterday and I even got to start 20th in one! Finally. Of course that was the race I screwed up completely. I went from 20th to 6th to 15th doh. Only time finishing outside the top 10. There was traffic on half way 'straight', 4 of us. I was in third, first 2 were kind of swerving. 4th was putting the pressure on me. I attempted an overtake yet had to back off as he was swerving to the edge. That opened the door for 4th to come alongside me just as the next kink in the road came up. I avoided him yet hit an angry pixel of grass and spun. That lost me my concentration and I spun two more time doh!

Best so far is a run from 19th to 4th with clean race bonus. That bonus is still wonky though. I've had races I was certain were spotless and no bonus. Then I had one with a shortcut penalty and got the clean race bonus...

Penalties for racing incidents are still an issue

At least it happens infrequent enough to maintain 99 SR or get back to 99 the next race. One such incident pretty much rules out any gain with -1 to +1 SR for such a race. Meanwhile dive bombs, barge and bump passes still go unpunished half the time. Oh well.

Next race has 4 South Americans, I wonder what they will be replaced with next Wednesday. The upcoming change certainly seems worse for the latin countries. As for lag, half the US entries have the same 3 yellow bars as the south americans. It's not going to solve the lag problem.
 
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