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Just IMO... but having Brake on a pressure sensitive button like L2 is just as important as throttle on R2. How do you trail brake with a simple on/off brake button? You can't. You're leaving time all over the track.

you rely on ABS and old school brake button tapping. i've tried l2 for brake and ive also tried the right stick for throttle/brake but neither work for me. left hand steer, right hand everything else.
 
You guys are all flying this week. I haven't had a lot of time this week, and since my SR drop, I've mainly been farming race C for SR. Ran 3 races tonight, still running from the back. First one I started 14/16 and finished 6th. Got me to SR-A.
2nd race was my best. Started 15/17 in a SR-S and A room, with DR from B-E. Was running 11-12 for the first 3 laps, then I finally started to move. Again, watching my lines and trying to be easy on tires, I just waited for mistakes and took advantage. Best lap was a 42.7 I think, but I was consistant right around 43 flat. Made my way up to second on L6 and took 2 seconds out of the leader's 5 second lead, but he held the gap to 3 seconds +/- on the last lap to take the win. I'll take the 2nd with a gain of 13 positions (a personal best). DR was just below 17K, SR at 74.
Last race was an almost all S room, with 2 or 3 A's, and the dirtiest from my position. Started 15/16 and ended up stuck in 13-14 for most of the race. Had a couple of guys knock me off track, and one try to force me off after the hairpin. By the time I got away from the punters, it was L5 or L6. Made it up to 9th, 22 seconds from the leader. Cost me about 300 DR, but SR is up to 82.
I'll have to do some laps in A and B. I'm sure I'll race the Stang, but I'll only race B if I can do a decent lap. I'll have to try to win another C from the back, too.
 
Why BOP a 1 make race?

Now that you mentioned it, there’s really no reason other than lock people out/negate tuning and equalize power/weight upgrades on garage cars.

Thats a really good question when you stop to think about it. If the car is provided, why bother with BOP? And for the love of all humanity, let us at least mess with the suspension or LSD! Throw us a bone... :bowdown:

Can you imagine how the rankings would be effected if they allowed tuning? Even partial tuning.
 
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Writing this just to give other slow-coaches a bit of comfort!!
Bought the Mustang (and I now believe I didn't need to as you get loaned one for the race??) and practiced in Arcade. Thought I was doing well enough not to be totally embarrassed online but accidentally made the stupid mistake of making some adjustments!

So, got online and whack - weight added, tyres changed and power reduced. Never mind, gave it a go. Driving it was like trying to walk on ice in slippers..... qualified 10th (read LAST) and 9th was er.... several.... seconds ahead. So, fingers crossed a load fly off the track and I might gain that way.

A load did indeed fly off the track in the early part - only to come back on and overtake me a little later.
And the final kick in the teeth?? The race finished before I'd crossed the line.... was on the home straight and "ping" - closed.:sick:

At least I didn't lose any SR (not possible, not anywhere near other cars most of the race!!)

So, after that "experience" and seeing the times posted here.... I will be sticking to "Campaign" mode for a while longer yet! :)
 
Been thrashing around the Audi R8 on Race B at Nurb GP and wow, I'm really beginning to grow on this car. I didn't think much of it before the physics change but now it handles really smoothly (at least on my current settings).

On the other hand, in the last race I just got out of, I'm thinking some people really need to use their brakes...
 
I think you've got that wrong, coasting slows you down I this game, a lot, its one of my annoyances. One has to try and keep on the throttle to rotate the car.

But not if it understeers. You've got to jump to power oversteer.

Been thrashing around the Audi R8 on Race B at Nurb GP and wow, I'm really beginning to grow on this car. I didn't think much of it before the physics change but now it handles really smoothly (at least on my current settings).

On the other hand, in the last race I just got out of, I'm thinking some people really need to use their brakes...
I got beaten up by some guy in my last race. I pulled alongside the car in front at the starting straight - maybe that oval thing works?? And at the first corner, I braked later than this dude and I took the right corner really sharp, I went over the edge of the track and he was well behind me. No where near any contact. The driver couldn't handle it, and then he went all nutty. He must have hit me 6 times I reckon after that, and I was very surprised that at the end of the race, I got a sliver star for a clean race. He finished the race two behind me, and instead of his "S" SR rating, he had evolved to an SR "B". The problem is I was lucky to stay on the track and i could have finished 8 places further back thanks to an emotional driver. Some people wreck it for others.

Writing this just to give other slow-coaches a bit of comfort!!
Bought the Mustang ... Thought I was doing well enough not to be totally embarrassed online but accidentally made the stupid mistake of making some adjustments!

So, got online and whack - weight added, tyres changed and power reduced. Never mind, gave it a go. Driving it was like trying to walk on ice in slippers..... qualified 10th (read LAST) and 9th was er.... several.... seconds ahead. So, fingers crossed a load fly off the track and I might gain that way.

A load did indeed fly off the track in the early part - only to come back on and overtake me a little later.
And the final kick in the teeth?? The race finished before I'd crossed the line.... was on the home straight and "ping" - closed.:sick:

At least I didn't lose any SR (not possible, not anywhere near other cars most of the race!!)

So, after that "experience" and seeing the times posted here.... I will be sticking to "Campaign" mode for a while longer yet! :)

Hey we've all missed the finish. You'll get better for sure. practicing in the wrong car would be a disaster for anyone here if it catches them by surprise.

Enjoy the game!
 
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The Shelby is so predictable. Place the car where you know it will wind up.

First race was from last(no qualy). Players at the back were trying get to grips(did I make a funny?) with the tyres.
Gearing, power delivery and suspension all work well in this race.

Second race, started 3rd(qualified 30.xxx). Had a good battle with the 2nd place car. Fair exchanges back and forth, changing positions. Finished 2nd by a close margin.

Did Race B in the Mustang. Started 13th. All Australian players had 2 bars. Beetle ahead of me was glitching. So, kept my distance until it went a bit wide at the final chicane.
Got by at T1 and pulled away.

Caught up to 8th & 9th placed players. They both crossed the line at the same time, with me right beside.
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you rely on ABS and old school brake button tapping. i've tried l2 for brake and ive also tried the right stick for throttle/brake but neither work for me. left hand steer, right hand everything else.
It's a matter of practise and persistence. If you want to improve there is no way around proper inputs.
 
Did a few races at Willow last night, and I am livid, not with anything that happened on track I got a couple of podiums and had a rivalry with a french girl where we pretty much shared the same piece of tarmac over 3 races, but livid with myself.

I was driving AT, with TC off completely, couldn't find any other settings to change, but I just couldn't go faster than a 1.32.4, and the more I tried, I actually went slower.

If I put all my best sectors into one lap, I reckon I could get about 1.31.8 but then I looked at a reference lap at 1.29, and still couldn't see where I was specifically losing time other than T5 which for the life of me couldnt figure out, even in the races, thats where I was losing time.

The one thing that did stand out from watching the reference lap was that the guy doing it was using faaaar more steering input than me.

I am loving and hating this in equal measure. Wifey watches on in bemusement, little does she know she is getting behind the wheel tonight. I honestly dont think it will be long before I will need a second PS4 after she has a go.
 
Yesterday, after a 14 hours of work, I grabbed a beer and some snacks to get some relaxing hot laps before going to bed.
Lap 1 was just to get a ghost to chase, and was a relaxed 2:01. Lap 2 was also a relaxing lap, just to get the feel back for the track and the wheel. It turned out to be my fastest so far, stopping the timer at 1:59,991. So this weeks goal was accomplished.
After getting disconnected from 2 races in a row, I decided that it was a hint that I should get some sleep.
Overall, a good Thursday.
 
Writing this just to give other slow-coaches a bit of comfort!!
Bought the Mustang (and I now believe I didn't need to as you get loaned one for the race??) and practiced in Arcade. Thought I was doing well enough not to be totally embarrassed online but accidentally made the stupid mistake of making some adjustments!

So, got online and whack - weight added, tyres changed and power reduced. Never mind, gave it a go. Driving it was like trying to walk on ice in slippers..... qualified 10th (read LAST) and 9th was er.... several.... seconds ahead. So, fingers crossed a load fly off the track and I might gain that way.

A load did indeed fly off the track in the early part - only to come back on and overtake me a little later.
And the final kick in the teeth?? The race finished before I'd crossed the line.... was on the home straight and "ping" - closed.:sick:

At least I didn't lose any SR (not possible, not anywhere near other cars most of the race!!)

So, after that "experience" and seeing the times posted here.... I will be sticking to "Campaign" mode for a while longer yet! :)

I played off line from December 2017 to May 2018. Didn't have a PS+ Account and hadn't played online gaming since 2007. When I tried Sport Mode I was totally crap (now I'm only mostly crap). Off line will teach you the cars, handling, tracks etc but the only way to get better at Sport Mode is to race online. The absolute predictability AI will never replicate the mayhem of a real race. For me the biggest lesson to learn was coping with pressure of a player right up your bumper and you trying to both defend and race fast while all the time trying to trust that they too will race but also expecting to be punted at any moment. I'm still way off becoming only partially crap. Last night I was in 3rd in Daily B with a 1 sec lead coming into the chicane and for no reason messed up the entry and lost a place. The difference now is that I recovered, got in behind the guy who passed me and held my head to keep 4th. So you do start to get used to that pressure and you also get better at recovering.

As for finishing outside the time, I only raced Bathurst 4 times last week. I only actually crossed the finish line once. Some cars, tracks and combinations will work better for you. So long as you have fun they are all worth racing.

The Shelby is so predictable. Place the car where you know it will wind up.

First race was from last(no qualy). Players at the back were trying get to grips(did I make a funny?) with the tyres.
Gearing, power delivery and suspension all work well in this race.

Second race, started 3rd(qualified 30.xxx). Had a good battle with the 2nd place car. Fair exchanges back and forth, changing positions. Finished 2nd by a close margin.

Did Race B in the Mustang. Started 13th. All Australian players had 2 bars. Beetle ahead of me was glitching. So, kept my distance until it went a bit wide at the final chicane.
Got by at T1 and pulled away.

Caught up to 8th & 9th placed players. They both crossed the line at the same time, with me right beside.
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Saw your post and tried the Mustang on Daily B for a couple of hot laps. Nice livery by the way. I've been using the Lexus (both 16 & 17...seem nearly identical). First couple of laps in the Mustang I was terrible but realised that it was the braking that was totally different. The Lexus needs you to stand on the brakes and perhaps use gears to help slow into corners. I was doing the same in the Mustang but losing loads of time in the corners. The brakes are much sharper on it and only need a dab in some corners which means you can also hold a higher gear because of it. So, a little adjustment of my left foot and it became a totally different car. I'm at 2.0.10 qualy at Nurb in the 16 Lexus (sub 2 is still just dangling out there) but in the Mustang I had it down to 2.0.4 with only 5 laps. Perhaps there's more improvement for me yet with that than by using a car I've not dropped below 2 even after dozens of laps. The other thing may be that with better brakes the Mustang could be better for races where you have to react to cars in front. The sharper brakes might help avoid a few tangles.

@drummingcat: I suggested to my wife that she could take a go. She's still laughing. Not in this life time mate, she'd rather watch the grass grow. With regards to steering inputs of other drivers, I tend to be more amused when I watch replays and see all the asssits. I came 3rd the other night at Nurb GP and watched a replay to see how a car had hit me when on T1 he was miles back coming into the corner. Other than the fact that he just didn't bother braking he had every assist flashing. I checked the other cars and of the top 10 I was the only one running just ABS. OK, a little elitist for the mostly crap driver that I am (as said above already) but I do like being able to sit on my moral high horse and say that at least I did it pure.:p
 
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I think the locking of BOP and non-tunability across all classes has been the biggest letdown of GTS. Like an earlier poster said 'throw us a bone' dogs got to eat too - not everyone is a noob PD.
 
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I think the locking of BOP and non-tunability across all classes has been the biggest letdown of GTS. Like an earlier poster said 'throw us a bone' dogs got to eat too - not everyone is a noob PD.

I like that it’s locked, I can focus on driving instead. Think of each different car as a different tune instead, each one has things it’s good at and bad at and finding the right one for each track is like finding the right tune for each track. Tuning makes it so half the players or more have no chance because they won’t know how to do it properly, where is the fun in beating a guy who can’t keep up because your tune is better? I like the equal playing field for all. :)
 
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I like that it’s locked, I can focus on driving instead. Think of each different car as a different tune instead, each one has things it’s good at and bad at and finding the right one for each track is like finding the right tune for each track. Tuning makes it so half the players or more have no chance because they won’t know how to do it properly, where is the fun in beating a guy who can’t keep up because your tune is better? I like the equal playing field for all. :)

I agree, persnoally i like that tuning is locked as i cant tune for hell, so i could drive the race of my life and someone can be a worse driver than me but a better tuner and thus beat me.

Locked means i have to learn how each car handles and adapt
 
@Pigems, @Majson83, @flamingchariot: I can see the appeal of being able to modify the cars and totally agree that it is a huge loss to those who have the know how. My own issue is not the know how but the time. It takes me nearly a week as it is trying to find out what car best suits a race, which is also one of the reasons I may be alone in liking weekly races. If I had to figure out the car that best suited while also having to build in all of the possible variables of tuning I'd probably not bother racing.

Agreed with Pigems, finding the right car is in a sense tuning for a track.

Agreed with Majason, The equalisation provided by locking tune and setting BOP is also very fair.
 
My overtaking move almost came off. (I am the player who gets T-boned)



I would like to hear people's thoughts on my maneuver as I feel that some players equate being surprised to dirty driving. I thought it was a great move but clearly that opinion wasn't shared by the person I passed.
 
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The Shelby is so predictable. Place the car where you know it will wind up.

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How do you guys post those "Victory" pictures? (Besides having to win).

And I presume with the race videos, you need a U-Tube account or registration?
 
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How do you guys post those "Victory" pictures? (Besides having to win).

And I presume with the race videos, you need a U-Tube account or registration?

Screenshots - you press the share button where you want the screenshot taken and then follow the prompts.

For videos you need YouTube or social media to link it to. Likewise use the share button and trim from there.
 
No races again last night. Wife stayed up a bit late and i went to bed a bit early....

Gonna focus on my lap time at willow this morning, i really want a 129 at least. I'll get to run a bunch of races tomorrow while she is at work so i need to get my lap times down.
 
We had a couple sport mode races before that allowed tuning and that just turned into onemakes with copied tunes. If you allow tuning it only makes the car selection less competitive, that's the whole reason it's locked. BOP can't get it right, without BOP the differences will be worse. For onemakes it would separate the field between those that know how to (find) tune(s) and those that simply race with stock cars or botched settings not knowing what they're doing. It's fine the way it is as a driving sim, it's not a car mechanic sim.


My overtaking move almost came off. (I am the player who gets T-boned)



I would like to hear people's thoughts on my maneuver as I feel that some players equate being surprised to dirty driving. I thought it was a great move but clearly that opinion wasn't shared by the person I passed.


It would have been a great move if you had stayed off the dirt. Your struggle messed up the car behind, who then lost control resulting in the accident. The follow through is as important as the actual pass. Almost a great overtake.


I tried race A in the morning, to see if the competition would be any easier. So 1:28 on pole, never mind having a shot at winning. However I did make it to the podium with clean race bonus (despite getting bumped off twice) and some sweet overtakes, outside of T2, inside of T3, outside T4, inside T5 and out of the last turn. Fun race. My best lap was still above 1:30 though and all the drivers I finished in front of were lower DR. That doesn't dampen the fun of gaining 9 positions in 5 laps :)
 
To avoid conversations, she never wore the same address.....such is the landscape that is NGP :sly:. I went in with the R8 for the half past midnight run. Was able to beat my merc qualifying time from last night. Unluckily for me that put me P8/13 on a mostly DR/C grid with only 3 of us DR/Ds :scared:.

Starting further back meant autodrive gave me the bum steer and dropped me in it at corner exit :crazy:. Off we go fangin it to T1 which was all kinds of awkward. Snuck through with minimal damage, but not completely unscathed. Getting through the first lap was less than pretty, and I think there was some contacts avoidable from all concerned. I managed to find some consistency and lapped reasonably well.... for me :lol:. The person behind me was closing in, and at one point showed up on my radar, but then disappeared. I managed to get things a bit wrong at the chicane and picked up a 3s penalty. I was 4s ahead headed towards the line, so i didn't slow down to remove the penalty. Things are gunna be interesting when they do get around to implementing penalty zones :O.

Finished:

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One reason for posting this is to show I gained 4 places... but the main reason is just to show off that they got my racing number right for a change :p.

Despite the contact I finished blue and gained 3 SR. DR went up 500+ which was a nice surprise :eek:. Another day above DR 1 :dopey:.
 
After a really important exam yesterday, today I took out the PS4. I had about 4 hours at my disposal, one of which was lost to updates. Then I jumped into Q in the R8 and ran three races. My first one was mediocre, my second one was humilating because I was in a lobby with mostly A+ and S drivers and my third one was good, finishing 2nd. I'm fairly certain I would have gotten a win too, but the DC glitch hit me while I was sitting on pole :banghead:

DR down by 80 to 37448, SR up to 91 and my best Q time was 1:57.120. I learned to drive without TCS! :D
 
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Screenshots - you press the share button where you want the screenshot taken and then follow the prompts.

For videos you need YouTube or social media to link it to. Likewise use the share button and trim from there.

It's way more complicated than that fior videos, the entire process is mind bogglingly difficult given it's 2019. Hopefully Sony gets a handle on it for the PS5.

Not a bad night at NGP, nabbed a win after a dirty first lap with an extremely aggressive Chilean. He was one of those guys that just HAD TO PASS YOU as soon as he caught you. We were quite a bit faster than the 3rd placed guy so we could have had a great fight but after him barging his way past me in the Mercedes complex and again on the OUTSIDE through the awkward left after the mercedes complex (just nonsense places for passing) i had enough and when i passed him back into the last turn I left him no space.

After that we lapped in the very low 59's so solid pace but a great potential race ruined. Regardless, got my win and my DR to an all time high of just under 27,000.

Staggered at the opace guys are running, i qualified with a 58.8 and i am still near 4% off the pace, 55's are absurd.
 
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How do you guys post those "Victory" pictures? (Besides having to win).

And I presume with the race videos, you need a U-Tube account or registration?

With photos it’s easy, I snap a photo of my screen with my phone and then upload it directly to my post, the option is right beside the “post reply” button, then one it’s uploaded click the option to add to reply. :)

If you have gmail account you already have a google account, if not it’s simple enough to create one, then it’s just a matter of signing into YouTube and linking it to your PS4. After that just hit the share button after a race/hot lap, trim to your desired size and press share. Then just Link the YouTube video in your post, it’s pretty simple once you get the hang out it. :)
 
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I played off line from December 2017 to May 2018. Didn't have a PS+ Account and hadn't played online gaming since 2007. When I tried Sport Mode I was totally crap (now I'm only mostly crap). Off line will teach you the cars, handling, tracks etc but the only way to get better at Sport Mode is to race online. The absolute predictability AI will never replicate the mayhem of a real race. For me the biggest lesson to learn was coping with pressure of a player right up your bumper and you trying to both defend and race fast while all the time trying to trust that they too will race but also expecting to be punted at any moment. I'm still way off becoming only partially crap. Last night I was in 3rd in Daily B with a 1 sec lead coming into the chicane and for no reason messed up the entry and lost a place. The difference now is that I recovered, got in behind the guy who passed me and held my head to keep 4th. So you do start to get used to that pressure and you also get better at recovering.

As for finishing outside the time, I only raced Bathurst 4 times last week. I only actually crossed the finish line once. Some cars, tracks and combinations will work better for you. So long as you have fun they are all worth racing.




Saw your post and tried the Mustang on Daily B for a couple of hot laps. Nice livery by the way. I've been using the Lexus (both 16 & 17...seem nearly identical). First couple of laps in the Mustang I was terrible but realised that it was the braking that was totally different. The Lexus needs you to stand on the brakes and perhaps use gears to help slow into corners. I was doing the same in the Mustang but losing loads of time in the corners. The brakes are much sharper on it and only need a dab in some corners which means you can also hold a higher gear because of it. So, a little adjustment of my left foot and it became a totally different car. I'm at 2.0.10 qualy at Nurb in the 16 Lexus (sub 2 is still just dangling out there) but in the Mustang I had it down to 2.0.4 with only 5 laps. Perhaps there's more improvement for me yet with that than by using a car I've not dropped below 2 even after dozens of laps. The other thing may be that with better brakes the Mustang could be better for races where you have to react to cars in front. The sharper brakes might help avoid a few tangles.

@drummingcat: I suggested to my wife that she could take a go. She's still laughing. Not in this life time mate, she'd rather watch the grass grow. With regards to steering inputs of other drivers, I tend to be more amused when I watch replays and see all the asssits. I came 3rd the other night at Nurb GP and watched a replay to see how a car had hit me when on T1 he was miles back coming into the corner. Other than the fact that he just didn't bother braking he had every assist flashing. I checked the other cars and of the top 10 I was the only one running just ABS. OK, a little elitist for the mostly crap driver that I am (as said above already) but I do like being able to sit on my moral high horse and say that at least I did it pure.:p
I've found, both Mustangs have excellent off-throttle tuck in. The brakes are indeed superb, but the car's car's turn really tight at the hairpins.
Only negative, is their shock dampening. Not as soft as the Gr.3/Gr.4 RC F(which I feel have the best ride over curbs, of all the Gr.3/Gr.4 cars).

Both Mustangs may not be the best handling, but using that tuck in, aids with corner exit speed, Allowing Gr.3 Mustang to attack with its top speed advantage and Gr.4 Mustang's strength of torquey acceleration.
 
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You guys are brilliant genius's being able to drive fast with a controller. Sheesh ...

But the other side, and please excuse my ignorance and bias - but .... these games IMO hurt realism due to controllers. The trailing - totally backed off throttle - is a key example. In a real car, you throttle on and then you brake hard. Mid corner you balance the throttle sure, but its mostly on and off and lots of steering, and OK with lots of throttle control. But being quick by backing off and sort of coasting in a corner - that is something that these games have done IMO to enable the controllers to be competitive.

Please correct me if I am wrong, because the only time I've been coordinated with a controller was with Ratchet and Clank, Version 1, due to my son. Many years ago ...

I'd rather the physics engine was more realistic and that the game lowered ones time because it knew you were using a hand controller, so it corrected the slower times a hand controller must produce.

But games doing that would be a bit like PD working out whose at fault in a racing bump - its not likely after 18 years of trying.
When it comes to wheel vs controller, there are pros and cons for both. The controller advantage that comes to mind for me is that I can transition the steering from lock to lock in about a tenth of a second, because I only need to move my thumb an inch. Not sure anybody can do that with a wheel. I don't think I would need to do that in a race, but that's the thing that comes to mind.
 
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