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sturk0167
It's my favorite, too. I tested a bunch of Gr.4 cars when we did this race in December, and the Lambo was my fastest, but the surprisingly the Bugatti was only 1/10th of a second behind.
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That’s good to know. I have yet to put a livery on a Bugatti now that I think about it. Maybe I’ll give it a shot this week.
 
Geez... I have been bleeding DR points like crazy... Hoping Gr3 at Interlagos would stop the hemorrhage... tomorrow will try again..
 
sturk0167
As the week goes on, a lot of the rammers get reset and lose interest, and some will just get better at driving on the track.
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I never thought of this but it makes sense. Hopefully SR S is ironed out more as a result. This thread/Sven was already starting to make me scared of Tokyo.

Maybe I'll hold off to race mid-week or race at the back without qualifying and watch the fireworks unfold. Interlagos is enough to keep me occupied, at least.
 
I need to find me a lobby for Australians NZ etc. ... not sure how to do that?

I gave up the weeklies due to the poor internet connections that Australians now get. Ramming is one bad thing (partly curable by reasonable qualifying IMO) but playing against guys with 5 green bars when you are normally on two yellow or two orange sucks big time. Thanks to the last upgrade from PD. Before the last upgrade the race server would be mixed up so that if you got a bad connection one race, the next race the connection would be good. But PD killed that with the last so called "upgrade". In fact it was an upgrade to Japan, and a downgrade for everyone else in the "Asian" sector.
 
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Tea_Leaves
I never thought of this but it makes sense. Hopefully SR S is ironed out more as a result. This thread/Sven was already starting to make me scared of Tokyo.

Maybe I'll hold off to race mid-week or race at the back without qualifying and watch the fireworks unfold. Interlagos is enough to keep me occupied, at least.
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Precisely what I was thinking! To a "Tea", get it...to a tea because your name is...nevermind. :D
 
Sven Jurgens
Nah, don't race, not worth it. I'm giving it one more shot, yet I'm feeling like uninstalling GTS lol. I'm down to SR.B now (64). Every race I get rammed multiple times, once or twice I get a penalty for getting rammed. The best I could do was a neutral rating, 3rd place with fastest lap. I can pass most of the field clean, I went over the finish in second last race, however with 13 sec penalties from people ramming me along the way.... I'm reporting 80% of the room every race lol.

Fix the penalties!!! Fix the SR system!!! It's not racing anymore it's Tokyo wrecking zone. When a car hits the wall, ghost them immediately and don't give a penalty to the car behind who has no chance to avoid.

One more foolish attempt. Insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

I turned the ps4 off in lap 2, **** it, done with it.
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Don’t try Lagos either. I’m down to sr b now. I’m so sick of people constantly trying to pit me. I took out maybe 8-10 cars last couple races. Complete destruction derby.
No point in paying attention to sr anymore.
Thing that sucks is you hold sr 99 for what? People don’t care game doesn’t care.
Just race is my motto now. I no longer care about letters at all.
I think if I want clean I will try organized lobbies.
 
Tea_Leaves
I never thought of this but it makes sense. Hopefully SR S is ironed out more as a result. This thread/Sven was already starting to make me scared of Tokyo.

Maybe I'll hold off to race mid-week or race at the back without qualifying and watch the fireworks unfold. Interlagos is enough to keep me occupied, at least.
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Monday has become the day for a quick dirty win. SR.S doesn't really get sorted out though as the fast aggressive drivers simply get put on pole at lower SR and get an easy race ahead of the fighting pack. One of the drivers that rammed me did exactly that. He fell back in the SR.S race, then rammed everyone along the way, dropped to SR.A where I saw him again on pole, getting wins plus blue SR for his 'efforts' At least the slower aggressive drivers will get stuck in SR.B so in addition to more clean drivers entering later in the week, it will get better.

It's a vicious cycle, as more of the clean drivers start avoiding Mondays, it will keep getting worse causing more people to shy away from the races. Matchmaking was part of the problem as the rooms today were mostly lower DR with me one of the highest in the room.

Starting last isn't that great when half the backfield is ghosted in a crumpled mess in T1. Do you pass it and get the horde crashing into you at the bridge or further on...

It's funny Interlagos is considered the safer alternative nowadays :lol: PD sure messed up the penalties on tracks with walls.

Oh, I just saw what @Groundfish posted, never mind about Interlagos.
 
@Sven Jurgens
I liked what you said once regarding this subject. You said something about wanting to race honest dirty drivers.
Imo the problem with the scoring is this. My sr went from 99 to mid 50 range just now in 3 races.
My dr? Up slightly.
That should be impossible.
I dunno what happened over the last 30 days, but for me sport mode has changed.
Sr 99 seems different when you are over 30k on the dr for sure. Yes, I brought it on myself, this sr drop.
I could have passively let people tap tap and shift me etc, but that’s crap. I race for fun, so now I ARCADE race for fun.
I’m tired of going well, better not race until prime time, well, better not race early in the week, well...Screw it and go racin I say.
I’m not gonna get account 2 and use that as an ‘ok to bash’ account. Imo, it has to be that that’s caused all the mess I am seeing. Double accounts etc.
Sr 99 used to be a room you could count on, no more.
I’m not saying sport mode isn’t fun at all, it is very fun. Just be honest and do whatever it takes. Once you accept the mentality it’s different to play the game.
Nice guys finish last.
ASM ON TCS 3. LETS DO THIS.
 
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@Groundfish I get what you're saying. Arcade racing is perfectly fine and is impossible to stop. It's a failure on the part of the SR system that this style of racing keeps infiltrating and flourishing in SR.S. As you said, what's the point of maintaining 99 SR if it doesn't protect you from the arcade punters and actually deducts your SR for racing with them.

That reminds me of how we used to play GT2 split screen. If we were right behind each other with the final turn coming up, we would both slow down, you go first, no you go first. The one that goes first gets punted off and loses the race... That's what Tokyo felt like today :lol:
 
Groundfish
@Sven Jurgens
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I’m not gonna get account 2 and use that as an ‘ok to bash’ account. Imo, it has to be that that’s caused all the mess I am seeing. Double accounts etc.
Sr 99 used to be a room you could count on, no more.
I’m not saying sport mode isn’t fun at all, it is very fun. Just be honest and do whatever it takes. Once you accept the mentality it’s different to play the game.
Nice guys finish last.
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I tried the second account ... got to 30K in 6 days, but I had a good qualifying at the ring and won lots of races. And yes - clearly there are many multi- account players - all you need is another email address. I did it because of all the other multi-account drivers. GTS should be allowing a single internet address - but that would limit the game to one user per household/internet IP address I guess.

But I like to race clean and I get fun from driving well - in the real world sense.

But the game seems designed for hitting other people. PD/Sony probably did a survey and found that most players like being able to drive into things - other players especially. Why else would they design a game that actively rewards crashing into other drivers?

We've all discussed ways to stop it happening ... but things seem to have just got worse. We're all had the experience, but it hurts most when you either are leading a race and or have a gap in front of you - and the car close behind bumps you off on the last lap. How pathetic that the game allows that sort of behaviour. In fact, its more serious than the killing games - where evidently those of sound mind can differentiate between killing people in a game from real life. But sorry - I think core driving skills require respect and consideration all times - not just in a game. That claims its "The Real Driving Simulator". Yet GTS now encourages the opposite of respect and consideration.
 
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Melbourne Park
I tried the second account ... got to 30K in 6 days, but I had a good qualifying at the ring and won lots of races. And yes - clearly there are many multi- account players - all you need is another email address. I did it because of all the other multi-account drivers. GTS should be allowing a single internet address - but that would limit the game to one user per household/internet IP address I guess.

But I like to race clean and I get fun from driving well - in the real world sense.

But the game seems designed for hitting other people. PD/Sony probably did a survey and found that most players like being able to drive into things - other players especially. Why else would they design a game that actively rewards crashing into other drivers?

We've all discussed ways to stop it happening ... but things seem to have just got worse. We're all had the experience, but it hurts most when you either are leading a race and or have a gap in front of you - and the car close behind bumps you off on the last lap. How pathetic that the game allows that sort of behaviour. In fact, its more serious than the killing games - where evidently those of sound mind can differentiate between killing people in a game from real life. But sorry - I think core driving skills require respect and consideration all times - not just in a game. That claims its "The Real Driving Simulator". Yet GTS now encourages the opposite of respect and consideration.
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You will always have these problems in any Multiplayer game. The Internet is just a huge pile of anonymous people who know they will never be held accountable for nasty behaviour. If you would just allow online racing for Plus-Accounts you‘d get rid of the secondary accounts in GTS (except for the die hards who would be willing to pay for more than one Plus-Membership). Not a nice solution but it would encourage the thought „I have only this account so it‘s precious“.

PD should implement Penalty Zones for every race and also DQ a player on receiving the 3rd penalty in a race. I‘m sorry but if a driver receives so many penalties he should not race; even if they weren‘t his fault or just accidents like hitting a wall: A good driver will learn and stay away from trouble or approach a Nemesis-Corner on a track slower the next time.

Yesterday in Tokyo when going through the double right hairpin at the end of the lap I didn‘t see any names on the other straight. Instead, I just saw red labels: +4, +10 etc. Such behaviour needs to be chastised immediately ripping them of every chance to finish at a decent position.
 
It's been a while since I've posted, and decided to report how Tokyo Race C is going. So far managed a 2nd in the McLaren 650S and a 3rd in the Ferrari 458, both times getting beaten by Huracan's. I then decided to have a bit of "fun" by trying out the Peugeot RCZ! I haven't seen many FWD's in this race and no RCZ's at all. I had to use hard tyres on the front (med on rear) to be able to no-stop this race, and was expecting to be a "Pug-train", holding up a lot of drivers. The RCZ has great acceleration, but top-end is lacking and the front tyre-life ain't good even with brakes full on the rear.

ANyway, started P4 and almost got into p1 going into the first corner, but unfortunately I was on the outside and promptly got put back into P4. Had a good battle with a fellow kiwi for 3rd place, and we were giving each other slipstream on the main straight (until the RCZ topped out). Anyway, managed to hold my own against the Huracan's and snatched a surprising 3rd place!

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My overall race pace was a bit slower than my other races, but I guess it depends on how much battling you're doing. Also not many red dots; drivers behaving themselves! I think I'm going to stick to more conventional cars, as understeering FWD's aren't really my thing. Anyone tried the Jag? Haven't driven it for a while, but it used to be a straight-line beast, but a bit hard on tyrewear? I should save replay's of the races to compare tyrewear of different cars!
 
beegentoo
You will always have these problems in any Multiplayer game. The Internet is just a huge pile of anonymous people who know they will never be held accountable for nasty behaviour. If you would just allow online racing for Plus-Accounts you‘d get rid of the secondary accounts in GTS (except for the die hards who would be willing to pay for more than one Plus-Membership). Not a nice solution but it would encourage the thought „I have only this account so it‘s precious“.

PD should implement Penalty Zones for every race and also DQ a player on receiving the 3rd penalty in a race. I‘m sorry but if a driver receives so many penalties he should not race; even if they weren‘t his fault or just accidents like hitting a wall: A good driver will learn and stay away from trouble or approach a Nemesis-Corner on a track slower the next time.

Yesterday in Tokyo when going through the double right hairpin at the end of the lap I didn‘t see any names on the other straight. Instead, I just saw red labels: +4, +10 etc. Such behaviour needs to be chastised immediately ripping them of every chance to finish at a decent position.
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Absolutely right. It is so in every multiplayer game if the developers and administrators allow it. You can not trust the reason of the players. That's why GTS needs stricter rules and a much better penalty system. They call themselves 'The real driving simulator'. If that's really the case then they would have to implement and monitor the real rules as well. But they do not do that. In which real races can drivers ram about halfway through the field without being disqualified or being forced to abandon them by vehicle damage? That's exactly what GTS should implement. But that will not happen. Sony is too scared to lose players by such rules. However, they overlook the fact that they have lost a lot of fair players by their inactivity. From my friends list almost nobody plays GTS anymore because the unfairness has just frustrated them. Sony would need 2 brands to satisfy the different players. That was also planned. Driveclub should be for the arcade players and GTS for the simulation players. But Driveclub was a failure and GTS should now be for all players. Due to the mistakes in the penalty system, players are wrongly classified. As a result, players constantly encounter each other with completely different ideas about the correct way to play. The result of this will be discussed here. Sony has to finally decide what they want. So it can not go on because the system currently frustrates all players. Arcade players find the rules too strict and want more action. By contrast, simulation players find everything too unfair and chaotic.
 
Rough night at Interlagos as people would not fricking brake at T1. In one race I got a 2 sec penalty fir braking in the brake zone and someone didn’t brake. From the looks of things here, I’m glad I didn’t step into Race C.

I did get a good race here though.

 
Done some qualiy last night at Interlagos, it's not a track I am particularly familiar with and have never raced there. It feels good though, and the McLaren also feels good round there, even on the hards. Nothing else compares to the central seating position it has! Anyway once I had learned the track I banked a 1.32.2 and reckon I could pull a bit more out of that. Just need more practice.

At Tsukuba in the Mazda is a bit slow and boring but i'll definitely get some races there. Think I managed a 1.12.5 which isn't brilliant so far.
 
Hoof Arted
It's been a while since I've posted
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.. I should save replay's of the races to compare tyrewear of different cars!
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Guys, I quoted Hoof Arted for his graphic of his race. Please look at the connection bars - as i have been saying, the Japanese get 5 green bars, most of the rest get 3 yellow to orange ....

Dorofint
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You will always have these problems in any Multiplayer game.

PD should implement Penalty Zones for every race and also DQ a player on receiving the 3rd penalty in a race. I‘m sorry but if a driver receives so many penalties he should not race; even if they weren‘t his fault or just accidents like hitting a wall: A good driver will learn and stay away from trouble or approach a Nemesis-Corner on a track slower the next time.

.... GTS needs stricter rules and a much better penalty system. They call themselves 'The real driving simulator'. .... Sony would need 2 brands to satisfy the different players. That was also planned. Driveclub should be for the arcade players and GTS for the simulation players. But Driveclub was a failure and GTS should now be for all players.
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I like this concept a lot.

I can see it now -

PD:
Compulsory log off from GT Sport on line services.

To_Blitz (or Blitztoo):
"You have received your third penalty for this race: you are Black Flagged."

To_Blitz:
"This is your third black flag in this week's on-line races. You can now only play in DriveClub for the period of one week, from now. You are no longer permitted to race on-line in GT Sport for one week. Good luck and enjoy DriveClub.

Please note that your other accounts such as Blitztoo which uses the same IP address as To_Blitz will not be able to access GT Sport on line for one week, but can enjoy DriveClub.

If you view the following videos on driver etiquette and rules and pass the quiz, your week penalty will be reduced by two days. You have the right to protest - please address your complaints to the Chief Steward, Charles Whiting."

GT Sport - the Real Driving Simulator

 
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Melbourne Park
Guys, I quoted Hoof Arted for his graphic of his race. Please look at the connection bars - as i have been saying, the Japanese get 5 green bars, most of the rest get 3 yellow to orange ....
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GTPlanet
The biggest single change to proceedings is that Polyphony Digital has once again split the regions up. Rather than the three regions of 2018, the new event will see competitors in five regions qualifying for the finals events.

There’s new servers to support this plan. As Yamauchi explained in his speech, “the servers in North America are in Virginia, and that’s just a little bit too far for players in Sao Paolo”.

This change won’t affect the Europe, Middle East and Africa (EMEA) region, but the others will see a divided player base. South and Central America splits from North America, thanks to new servers in Sao Paolo, while Oceania gets Sydney servers to help its secession from the Asia region.
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I am taking a few days off after the weekend maybe a week or 2 as I have lost all love for it in record time. My SR went from 99 to 15 in one afternoon at Fuji. I am not sure what happened to the concept of hard but fair, but it seems that its no longer possible to get through a first corner unscathed and when someone plows into the back of you without even attempting to avoid you, and then they fly off the track, you get a down arrow and if you are really lucky, a penalty!

Also there is absolutely no incentive to try and better yourself racing with no TC, because it makes cars so easy to tip/ spin, I have lost count of the amount of times I have been nudged in one afternoon, deliberately so just enough to upset the balance of my car and I either spin, or have to back right out of the throttle as they cruise past, it seems that at the moment, the game is rewarding all the bad aspects of racing and not rewarding any of the good ones.

In the end I thought sod it, The one race where I managed to get round lap one in one piece, some idiot dive-bombs me from 1.5 seconds back in the final turn and I spin, I manage to spin it round and get facing forward so I only lose about 5 seconds, his penalty for costing me 5 seconds?? A 1 second penalty. Over the next 3 laps I reel him in so into the final corner of the final lap he is only half a second ahead of me, he cant win the race from here, particularly as he makes a right mess of the final turn, I go to pass him around the outside yet he repeatedly rams me until I am half on the grass, he has a penalty, quite why he has to win on the road I have no idea, just take your second place and move on, so in the end I anticipate his next swerve and brake, and he spins off onto the grass and then I get a THREE SECOND second penalty, at this point I am livid, particularly as the third place guy is now onto the final straight, I scrub off my penalty as the 2 guys behind me are ramming each other, but the third place guy gets past and I am not afraid to say that I swerved right in front of him on the line so that I scrub my penalty and win.

The best part is afterwards in the lobby I am expecting an argument because it was a dirt way to win and not fair on the guy who came from third, but they are both saying what a fantastic race it was..............

Maybe I just had a really bad run of rooms, but it seems its not racing at the moment its gaming the holes in the system. Maybe I should be more cynical, but I wanted to improve my race-craft, not get to the point where I am driving like a t**t.
 
Famine
GTPlanet:
The biggest single change to proceedings is that Polyphony Digital has once again split the regions up. Rather than the three regions of 2018, the new event will see competitors in five regions qualifying for the finals events.

There’s new servers to support this plan. As Yamauchi explained in his speech, “the servers in North America are in Virginia, and that’s just a little bit too far for players in Sao Paolo”.

This change won’t affect the Europe, Middle East and Africa (EMEA) region, but the others will see a divided player base. South and Central America splits from North America, thanks to new servers in Sao Paolo, while Oceania gets Sydney servers to help its secession from the Asia region.
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This does not include the daily races.
That change was implemented and then reverted for the dailies one update later because people whinged about player numbers.
 
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drummingcat
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Also there is absolutely no incentive to try and better yourself racing with no TC, because it makes cars so easy to tip/ spin, I have lost count of the amount of times I have been nudged in one afternoon, deliberately so just enough to upset the balance of my car and I either spin, or have to back right out of the throttle as they cruise past, it seems that at the moment, the game is rewarding all the bad aspects of racing and not rewarding any of the good ones.....
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If its going to happen, then turn on spin assist onto weak. For me it typically cured loosing heaps of time after been hit badly. I bet all those hitters have it on strong ... Unfortunately you have to turn it on before the race ...
 
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Pah, Who needs a Huracán anyway? :D

Got my first win in a darn long while, even if helped by a pretty decent 2min 08sec qualifying time set in the SLS AMG here, netting me a 2nd place start on the grid. Had to really be careful though because this car's tyre wear was definitely becoming an issue in the latter half, the front lefts were screaming for any grip to cling on to especially during the low-medium corners, but I managed to stay firmly ahead of everyone else.. It was quite surreal honestly as im used to always being in the back of the pack (DR B / SR S) but there we go, Even netted a fastest lap too, much to my surprise. :P
 
My DR went up to 44k while my SR dropped to 83, I’m about to completely ignore race C, with the right car the track is globs of fun, but for some reason it brings out the worst in people.
 
J Rutherford
Done some qualiy last night at Interlagos, it's not a track I am particularly familiar with and have never raced there. It feels good though, and the McLaren also feels good round there, even on the hards. Nothing else compares to the central seating position it has! Anyway once I had learned the track I banked a 1.32.2 and reckon I could pull a bit more out of that. Just need more practice.
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I wish I could do a 1.32x.
I can't figure how to get under 1.338 on interlagos, I have watched the replay, tried the Audi, the maclaren, but there is nothing I can do, I constantly mess up the first turn exit(2nd turn) as I oversteer and lose time when when I pass on the curb. In 1h30, I passed 3 times the first couple of turns correctly and I messed up somewhere else.

The gr3 professional AI is faster than me in the custom races, I am ashamed and I don't dare to face DR B drivers

Maybe I need to try with the cones...
 
Got third yesterday at the Tokyo Expressway daily race. Some people really don't know their breaking points. Every time I want to get a clean race and then someone bumps into you again.. Well have to get used to it I guess, praying that I get some clean races the next few times.

And also I love the Huracan on this track, feels so smooth!
 
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