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Yawn......I'm a fan of the ring, but not for racing. It's too damn narrow and a lot of folks just can't understand what a racing line is. I'll wait for Wednesday's FIA races to race a car I'm stuck in for yet another season (thanks for that PD).
 
Well.

When I first did qualifying in Race B, I had 150.7 in the Corvette.

Now I have 1:49.3 in the TT Cup. It feels nice. I know its good here. I try to stay away from the usual cars.
 
Did the Gr.3 today and oh boy, got punted multiple times from behind but tried to run without a pitstop. Started 13th, went to 3th after 3/4 through and then ran out of fuel :irked: near the end (ran regime 2 first lap but too thirsty) , came in 10th... Ah well, at least I learned something :lol:

First time ever I put those hazzard lights to use...
 
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Damn I suck at the N24 :D 8:36.xxx first lap, tryed few more, but ended facing backwards on those.

Race B with TT best time 1:49.03x...

I think that Ill just drive qualy at this week also, or offline. Hate the TT snowplower and ring is not my cake.
 
O604
Race A. It's very easy to gauge other cars since it's mostly all out in 3rd gear with only 2 braking points. If you chose a passive approach there's plenty of time to watch everything around you and stay clean.

And whatever race, don't qualify. I think the reason you can enter a race without a qualifying time is specifically to allow players to increase SR from the back without losing DR.
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Didn't read the second half of your comment (and i paid for it haha). Qualified with 1.06.5x or something started 3-4 in the 3 races I did. I was always the fastest in average but in the first race the first pushed me out when I was passing him and got a 2s penalty but he managed to get rid of it before I catch up again.
Second race a Portuguese and à German were trying to push me out the whole race but penalty system worked somehow well and I had blue SR, back to SRB.

Third race, a German was decided to push everyone out without getting penalties ( i don't know how he was doing it). He rear bumped me in the straight just to get my SR down several time even when I let him pass me. Then he messed up and I stayed before him, in second place, till the end of the race.

Overall my SR went from 39 to 46... still far from the 99 of Friday.
Maybe I will try race B and stay in the pit for the whole race. How much DR can I lose at the max ?
 
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Today I got a 1.47.2 while drunk, not having even the slightest idea how I did it. And now I find myself starting every freaking race on pole and I still have no idea how to do it. .48 sure... Maaaaybe high 47. But this? Holy ****.
I dropped the game for today because:
I'm drunk and can't race properly.
I'm drunk and can't race properly and even if I don't mean to, I end up hitting people.
I'm starting on pole against DR A people and there's jut no ****ing way I can keep up. I get scared and screw up before the first lap's over.
 
I added up all my races on Tokyo last week, thanks to @jasguer's site, about 90 races total, to figure out what the best day to race is.

All races done without qualifying with avg SR gain/loss for the day and avg position gain for the day.
(I did not include the disconnects nor my meltdown race on Saturday)

Monday -5.0 SR per race, 11.4 positions gained
Tueaday -6.6 SR per race, 10.6 positions gained
Wednesday +1.88 SR per race, 13.3 positions gained
Thursday +0.69 SR per race, 11.7 positions gained
Friday +2.47 SR per race, 10.7 positions gained
Saturday -0.21 SR per race, 11.5 positions gained
Sunday +0.90 SR per race, 11.4 positions gained

The Tuesday result is kinda skewed, I only did 5 races on Tuesday and one of them had -41 SR, by far the worst. I remember getting stuck in the backfield and used as a pinball in that race, it was not fun.

My highest SR gain for a single race was +13, on Sunday night when it finally cleared up and got clean. Without the cleaner races at night, Sunday would have been negative as well.

Monday is the worst day for SR not counting the outlier on Tuesday.
Friday is the best day for SR, lower position gain due to more mismatched fields at high SR.

The best rooms for racing from the back are those with an even race pace spread so you have one or multiple cars to draft pass on the straight in every lap. When the matching is too uneven, gaps open up with no one to draft.


So far N24 is in the positive for SR. It's messy, definitely since not qualifying has me starting from 10th to 12th, exactly the starting position I try to avoid.... Nearly half the field doesn't qualify and so far in SR.A I have the highest DR of the non qualifiers. Not a good place to start.

N24 is awesome as usual. No stop, using hard tires. Not many walls to bounce cars back in your path, much better for safe driving.
 
slthree
So, would you suggest I put it at 0, struggle for awhile, and learn to drive this way?
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No, just enjoy the game. I'd be using TC now if it made me faster - it's part of the game. There are those who claim it's sort of dirty to use the driving aids - I am not one of those. Most around here have ABS on, set on weak. Even those who claim to be "purists".

The best way to test if you need it is in qualifying. For a while I would use it on a couple of corners in races - for instance, I used to turn it on in a race at Suzuka when at the hairpin, because I'd loose too much ground with TC on zero there. An old trick with TC off is to change gear earlier - so a corner which has wheel slip in first gear, with TC off can be faster taken in 2nd gear - but that really can mean one's throttle modulation is sub optimal.

I was unaware of the power of TC until I drove a first edition Stingray (Corvette) at the BB track ( I would have to turn the game on to check the track, so I will do that and edit the track's name, but I cannot do that for hours!!!) , and on that track, you are always travelling quick, it's a sort of an oval like track. You enter the main straight from another straight and you're moving quickly when you enter the straight. I could not understand why the 'Vette was not increasing its speed when I accelerated on entering the main straight. It was due to the TC being on. So I turned it off, and I started to really gently increase the throttle. I got a good time for the circuit in qualifying and won several races - due to turning the TC off and learning how to gently increase the throttle there. But when I decided to turn it off for good quite a bit later in experience, I was quite a bit slower, for several weeks.

It's really up to you. IMO there's no point if you cannot yet feel the car, and for me, that took time. The cortex part of the brain learns things, and I don't think turning off TC when you are starting the game assists the cortex learning how to apply the throttle - that part of the brain needs to link a motor function with a particular event. If you don't know what the car is doing, maybe you're not learning the best you can?

But some here have never ever used TC. I did have it on, because I was faster with it on, and being faster is more fun for me. I got to the stage where I knew it was not the best way to drive, so eventually I just turned it off. I was very surprised at a track driving the Porsche when I turned it on to get a better qualifying, that I was then slower with TC on. Also the car felt much more dead with it on. But there's heaps of top drivers who use it. Check the top qualifier videos - its surprising how many of the top 10 qualifiers have TC turned on ...

A problem with the game IMO, is that there is no light to show a player that they have wheel spin. There's a light to show that TC is working ie the dash light goes on when TC is limiting wheelspin. And you can often feel TC working (when in the Porsche in a turn, the engine backs off a bit). But when it's set to zero, I would still like a light to show the driver that he/she is suffering tyre slip. If there was such a light, I'd say turn it off now.

One strange thing with TC is that in the races where tyre wear features, I have found having TC makes no difference to my tyre wear. That should not be the case.

When you change gears with TC on, the car looses some power during the gear change that the TC off mode does not loose ie in a straight line test with gear changes, the TC off will accelerate faster. But from a standing start unless the driver is quite good, the TC-on car will get off the line quicker.

Finally some cars need TC much less than others. I have not tested this, but in theory 4WD cars will need TC much less than front wheel drive cars.
 
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I’ve got Seaside down to a 47.2 in the TT, I feel like sub 47 is not far away because that wasn’t even close to a perfect lap. I haven’t been able to make this car work in weeks and all of a sudden today it’s got its Mojo back. Whatever, I’ll take it. 👍 :)


Sorry about the Pause, I got interrupted mid lap. :lol:
 
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I tried B today with no qualifucation and the Mustang; it‘s not competitive but I like my livery. Unfortunately PD again changed something since the car feels completely different in race. While I went smooth when practicing at and off-sports-mode trial with the exact same settings the car feels like a truck when racing. They set a fixed setup which is nearly unsuitable for any serious racing. Started last, finished 14th due to somebody rage quit and the other guy being 5s behind.

For the Ring I just set a Q-Lap. Struggled to get a 8:36 with the Viper, have no Idea how to get 8:01. I really love this track but I suck at racing on it. Let‘s see how the race is working out...
 
Vegard
I wanted to go with something different this week so I randomly picked the Hyundai Genesis.
Managed to set a 8:10 after some laps. The car is pretty good to drive.

First race of the day I get matched with Turismo-lester in the Porsche. Managed to stay with him until the end of lap 1.
After breaking the draft he quickly opened up a gap of 4-5 seconds and in the end I finished 5.5 behind him.
Still, quite happy with that and the Hyundai is no slouch.

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You're smooth and quick. I was behind you at some point today. Nice racing with you. I think I was on my Half_fast_racing account.
 
I really enjoyed the racing at the N24 today. It was pretty clean in the lobbies I was in. The McLaren F1 is seriously quick in a straight line and can save fuel as well. However, you can easily hang with them in the Porsche if you're so inclined. Great racing really.
 
Tea_Leaves
So 3 races at Dragon Trail and each time I was punted off the track with double-digit finishes. Is the general consensus not to touch this track until later in the week? I don't recall the mirrored variation being this bad.
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I think most people only know the normal layout. When i started my qualifying i kept saying wtf because the reverse layout feels so weird almost like..maybe...i should be going the other way. Its gonna take alot of laps if i want to race clean there this week.

Imo seaside II has terrible flow.
 
Stencedaddy
I think most people only know the normal layout. When i started my qualifying i kept saying wtf because the reverse layout feels so weird almost like..maybe...i should be going the other way. Its gonna take alot of laps if i want to race clean there this week.

Imo seaside II has terrible flow.
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No interest in doing Seaside backwards. I'm not a fan when there are other options.
 
Stencedaddy
I think most people only know the normal layout. When i started my qualifying i kept saying wtf because the reverse layout feels so weird almost like..maybe...i should be going the other way. Its gonna take alot of laps if i want to race clean there this week.

Imo seaside II has terrible flow.
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It takes some readjusting to and I agree about the flow of the track but once it clicks, it's not bad.

In 2 of my races, the same thing happened with a driver in front ramming themselves into the wall from Bus Stop followed by ramming me into the wall after unghosting which span me out. If the ghosting duration was a little longer, it never would had happened. Both were around half a second ahead.
 
My first stint of laps on DT resulted in a 1:50,8xx :indiff: with about ~0,5 seconds to gain.
A bunch of beers later while watching some YouTube, I decided to give it a go again. On a sort of good lap, I completely messed up the esses and my 1,3 seconds up on the previous best lap was gone 🤬:ouch: Continuing with the no :censored:s given approach, I got down to 1:50,5 before closing the game. But knowing that there’s at least 0,8 seconds left for me to gain, I’ll give to Wednesday until it’s time for Godzilla to slay the dragon
 
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8:17.6 on Nurburgring 24h w/ 911 RSR. If I can bring it down to 8:16, I can finally put an end to this nightmare. :nervous:

E- 8:17.3. So close! The Beetle Gr. 3 feels a little easier to drive, which is nice.
 
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I’ve got Seaside down to a 47.2 in the TT, I feel like sub 47 is not far away because that wasn’t even close to a perfect lap. I haven’t been able to make this car work in weeks and all of a sudden today it’s got its Mojo back. Whatever, I’ll take it. 👍 :)


Sorry about the Pause, I got interrupted mid lap. :lol:
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Nice lap young man! Gonna have to chase that down tomorrow.
 
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The SLS AMG seems to be doing well on N24. Just now a no stop one won with 20 sec lead while a one stop caught me at the straight and passed me to finish 2nd. I got the fastest lap somehow, the winner must have used more fuel on the first lap.

There is a lot of draft bumping going on. This race I only gained 1 SR from all the taps. Make a pass or slow down, stop bumping.

And disconnect nr 3 today :banghead: PD definitely broke something :( No disconnects for a month and now averaging 2 a day since last Wednesday. That's -5 SR again, had not even passed the start line yet.
 
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