"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[banckzy]

You might be better off going to the retailer you bought it from, as that is who you have a legal contract with. You should be able to get a repair/replacement through them, especially if you can find other cases of this problem happening and even without that, it breaking in the first year should be enough. Depending on the retailer though it could be easier or harder than going through Logitech but you have the law on your side in this case.

Thanks mate, well I did get it from Currys/PC World and on their receipt it states they can help if theres a fault within 30 days?

I need to provide Logitech with a serial number tonight which I will do. It's at the base of the wheel so I have to dismantle it to give them that info as it's currently fixed to my playseat challenge!

 

[05XR8]

The time I don't use my Mustang, everyone including me, are using the 86.

 

[banckzy]

Logitech are a bunch of idiots when it comes to claims regarding broken gear. I had such a bad experience with them I told myself to never buy a logitech wheel again

What wheel do you have? I'm tempted to go all out and get the T-GT

 

[Jimmyghione]

maybe I'm wrong, can someone of you confirm the wheels with force feedback warn you when you are starting to lose your rear (oversteer) by having a "lighter" steer? I mean there is much less force when the car is starting to oversteer, while if you use a wheel without force feedback you have not this kind of feeling, am I right? I think FF is needed to have maximum control on your rear and spinning rears are a must if you set TCS off..

 

[ASH32]

Thanks mate, well I did get it from Currys/PC World and on their receipt it states they can help if theres a fault within 30 days?

I need to provide Logitech with a serial number tonight which I will do. It's at the base of the wheel so I have to dismantle it to give them that info as it's currently fixed to my playseat challenge!

Products (especially expensive ones) have to last a reasonable amount of time and I'm pretty sure there is standard warranty of at least a year on items such as this in any case, which you are well within. If Logitech are still being awkward after you give them the serial number, take it into the store and complain instead, the only issue is they may insist in sending it off for repair rather than just swapping it for a new one and there isn't much you can do about that.

 

[05XR8]

Man, that was follow the leader at Suzuka. This race needs an endurance setting. Like a mandatory pit stop.

 

[Nuschel01]

What wheel do you have? I'm tempted to go all out and get the T-GT

I now have a T150 but I'm not really happy with that one (would be better if it had a full rubber rim). Wish I had the T300 at least

 

[Invisigoth]

Welp. tried a few cars for pre-qualification for Sukiyaki. Tried the J-roach, but I wasn't getting any VTEC unicorn love. Tried the EVO, and had a hard time dealing with the under steer exiting the corners. I don't know how Baliwa does it ? Tried the Veyron, still no joy. BMTroubleyou, almost. Had the right feel and I set faster time by a couple of secs. Then the Viper. After 3 laps I'd beaten my M4 time by another 2 seconds.

Thought I was set, till match fixing, I mean race matching. P8. Glad I changed to the Viper or it would have been P12!.

Race starts and everyone in front of me is in nana mode for some reason and I was trying *very* hard to control myself and not hit anyone in front . Got past the person ahead of me, then they started harnessing me, eventually slamming into me at the hairpin and spinning me out and into the kitty litter. Down to P16 I go. Not sure if they just didn't bother to try avoiding a collision or if they were coming in a bit too hot, slammed on the brakes and slid into me. Finished P14. No idea what effect it had to my DR/SR, but I must have lost some DR.

Not happy with being spun out I re-entered and found myself starting in P3 . Same qualifying time, pretty similar DRs to previous race. Avoided most messes. Gained a position, but politely gave it back when I messed up and ran wide. Finished the race P3. SR is back to 99, DR went up less than 100 so I'm guessing that P14 from the previous race did me no favours .

 

[banckzy]

Products (especially expensive ones) have to last a reasonable amount of time and I'm pretty sure there is standard warranty of at least a year on items such as this in any case, which you are well within. If Logitech are still being awkward after you give them the serial number, take it into the store and complain instead, the only issue is they may insist in sending it off for repair rather than just swapping it for a new one and there isn't much you can do about that.

thanks mate, will keep you all posted

 

[Krypton78]

(as I dont care for SR/DR rating anymore)

Respect for that, I tried to ignore my DR, too. But I can't help myself

I made a second account to play more free and experiment some things. But now the DR of this account is getting a little high, too. So I catched myself that I have become to carefull with this account, too

Now I created a third account , and this time I promised myself I'll play only just for fun!!! (at the moment I'm chasing the 15 clean-race in a row- success, which I have never got, so I'm driving behind the pack)

 

[Sean Renon]

maybe I'm wrong, can someone of you confirm the wheels with force feedback warn you when you are starting to lose your rear (oversteer) by having a "lighter" steer? I mean there is much less force when the car is starting to oversteer, while if you use a wheel without force feedback you have not this kind of feeling, am I right? I think FF is needed to have maximum control on your rear and spinning rears are a must if you set TCS off..

Yes - although the force feedback is pretty dull even when it's cranked up - apparently the force feedback on the T-GT is the best in terms of feeling when you're about to lose the rear.
I recently cranked up the force feedback on my G29 and it definitely helps feeling when I'm losing the back end.

 

[Balwerk]

Tried the EVO, and had a hard time dealing with the under steer exiting the corners. I don't know how Baliwa does it ?

Lol Unicorn NSX I haven't run in Suzuka yet (Only run in Monza today Mustang is so good) so I dunno how Evo feel on that track, I bet it actually will be great on 1st sector but slow in 2nd and 3rd sector.

Evo GR.4 right? all about momentum loose the gas + just hit brake little then full throttle when on mid corner. Don't ever think passing with evo on straight that's almost impossible even you in slipstream mode what you can do is battling in late braking not that much you'll lose the momentum to run again. If you use WRX you can use same trick but with more power , try messing with BB it will be bring big different

note I use TCS: 2, BB: -2 and messed up steering setting on advance setting (7,1,9 if I not wrong)

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Respect for that, I tried to ignore my DR, too. But I can't help myself

I made a second account to play more free and experiment some things. But now the DR of this account is getting a little high, too. So I catched myself that I have become to be carefull with this account, too

Now I created a third account , and this time I promised myself I'll play only just for fun!!! (at the moment I'm chasing the 15 clean-race in a row- success, which I have never got, so I'm driving behind the pack)

Yes... Join the dark side >

I have 4 accounts

 

[Sean Renon]

Lol Unicorn NSX I haven't run in Suzuka yet (Only run in Monza today Mustang is so good) so I dunno how Evo feel on that track, I bet it actually will be great on 1st sector but slow in 2nd and 3rd sector.

Evo GR.4 right? all about momentum loose the gas + just hit brake little then full throttle when on mid corner. Don't ever think passing with evo on straight that's almost impossible even you in slipstream mode what you can do is battling in late braking not that much you'll lose the momentum to run again. If you use WRX you can use same trick but with more power , try messing with BB it will be bring big different

note I use TCS: 2, BB: -2 and messed up steering setting on advance setting (7,1,9 if I not wrong)

Using TCS on the 4WD cars will kill any form of exit speed and really hamper your top end speed on the straights.

 

[GA 52]

Why are you hyphenating between sentences?

because I don't know when and where to use or not use comma's etc. English is not my strong side........

 

[TamasToth]

saying that they have "no experience on any race tracks their entire life!! - making rules mathematical without understanding the drivers actions in racing!" is baseless and inexcusable. If it ended at "completely idiotic system! Typical IT issue", I wouldn't have any qualms about it.

Yes, I agree with you in this aspect. And I do hope you understand my point of view also.

About racing in practice: it is well known that Yamauchi san himself is a practicing driver, occasional racer, and they have good connections with some racing teams also. So we can be sure that they have a clue how it is working in real life, and I expected, that they have a clue also how it should work in the gaming (OK, let's say: simracing) scene. That's why I am so disappointed personally, seeing the result.
(To make it clear, frustrating results is just one thing. Not that harmful. The way of what and how it teaches for the youngsters is a way bigger sin - if it fails.)
Sorry for being so long and not quite on topic.

 

[Nuschel01]

About racing in practice: it is well known that Yamauchi san himself is a practicing driver, occasional racer, and they have good connections with some racing teams also. So we can be sure that they have a clue how it is working in real life, and I expected, that they have a clue also how it should work in the gaming (OK, let's say: simracing) scene. That's why I am so disappointed personally, seeing the result.
(To make it clear, frustrating results is just one thing. Not that harmful. The way of what and how it teaches for the youngsters is a way bigger sin - if it fails.)

The problem is that there is not a single reallife racing league with an AI to judge incidents. An AI will never ever be able to judge every single incident correctly and I think PD is working really hard to make it at least ~75%(?) accurate.

 

[TamasToth]

AI will never ever be able to judge every single incident correctly

I really hope that an AI with all realtime data involved and in connection with the issue could reach better accuracy then what I experience now.

Its an opinion of yours. I think the penalty system is ok. There are annoyances about it but not enough to say its a bad product. Gts has been well developed where pd as listened to feedbac and implemented stuff into the game.

Based on the opinion of yours, it should be a comfortable task to work for you. If your new house's electrical system has glitches, no big problem, just small annoyances. The architect and the craftsmen will listen to your voice (big up!) and they do some tweaking here and there week by week. Sooner or later there will be ... something. Hopefully better. But just never ask when it will be ready - it's already not a bad product.
Just joking. Got your point. As your opinion.

 

[inri]

The Mustang is OP at Monza so I had to buy one for this race. Apart from the Vette are there any cars that even have a chance against this thing?

Not that I'll likely get any more time to try for myself, I'm just wondering.

the '11 SLS has a lot of power. its actually a pretty good car in general on the down low, it has understeer but monza suits it.

 

[Balwerk]

Using TCS on the 4WD cars will kill any form of exit speed and really hamper your top end speed on the straights.

I know, but I really bad at use TCS 0 on DS4 so what I should do? I keep practicing still lose big time and not feel good doing that.

 

[inri]

I know, but I really bad at use TCS 0 on DS4 so what I should do? I keep practicing still lose big time and not feel good doing that.

4wd should be fine with tcs 0 even with ds4 i think

 

[Sean Renon]

I know, but I really bad at use TCS 0 on DS4 so what I should do? I keep practicing still lose big time and not feel good doing that.

It doesn't take much practice to be good at 4WD on a DS4 with TCS 0, just practice.
TCS 0 is done by some very very good drivers on a DS4 with gr.3 cars.

 

[Jimmyghione]

4wd should be fine with tcs 0 even with ds4 i think

I did an "experiment" last night in Nurb with 911 Gr.3 car. Wheel with all assists off (1:57.1, with some more time I would have gained some tenths), DS4 with TCS set to 3 (1:57.1, here too I can improve by some tenths)

GR.4 4WD cars with TCS=0 are ok my side, you do not lose control so easily as you lose with RWD cars..

 

[Mirror_man]

Yes... Join the dark side >

I have 4 accounts

You sure have a lot of free time in your life...

I don´t even have time for playing has I would like... with only one account.. (and some how I´ve put myself in a position with a 2nd account.. that.. derived me to having only like 4 to 5 hours night sleep.. from Monday to Thursday....)

 

[Balwerk]

It doesn't take much practice to be good at 4WD on a DS4 with TCS 0, just practice.
TCS 0 is done by some very very good drivers on a DS4 with gr.3 cars.

4wd should be fine with tcs 0 even with ds4 i think

I'll try more practicing later, well what I can do now just maximaze my potent on TCS2 as long as I can get 2 or 3 second from top driver in top 10 I'm fine. I still can't control my finger when on or off throttle in corner.

 

[bone_tone]

Thanks mate, well I did get it from Currys/PC World and on their receipt it states they can help if theres a fault within 30 days?

I need to provide Logitech with a serial number tonight which I will do. It's at the base of the wheel so I have to dismantle it to give them that info as it's currently fixed to my playseat challenge!

I bought my G29 from Currys, because of their 2 year guarantee - just take it back to them and request a replacement. Logitech have no obligation to do anything about it - as stated elsewhere, your contract is with the retailer!

 

[inri]

I got reset to DR B because someone got heated for whatever reason and intentionally ruined my and his own DR and SR in two separate races with brake checking and running me wide -___- well .. sorry DR B guys but i'm going to be winning your races in an extremely boring fashion for the foreseeable future

 

[Nuschel01]

I got reset to DR B

rip

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Yes, I agree with you in this aspect. And I do hope you understand my point of view also.

About racing in practice: it is well known that Yamauchi san himself is a practicing driver, occasional racer, and they have good connections with some racing teams also. So we can be sure that they have a clue how it is working in real life, and I expected, that they have a clue also how it should work in the gaming (OK, let's say: simracing) scene. That's why I am so disappointed personally, seeing the result.
(To make it clear, frustrating results is just one thing. Not that harmful. The way of what and how it teaches for the youngsters is a way bigger sin - if it fails.)
Sorry for being so long and not quite on topic.

Yeah, given that Yamauchi-san is a real driver himself + has the whole GT Academy thing to help him, the penalty system is abyssmal. I personally liked the 1.13 version, but not because it's actually good, not at all. I only liked it because it was so strict that people actually became cautious
I'm with you with the disappointment

You sure have a lot of free time in your life...

I don´t even have time for playing has I would like... with only one account.. (and some how I´ve put myself in a position with a 2nd account.. that.. derived me to having only like 4 to 5 hours night sleep.. from Monday to Thursday....)

Not really
My original account's been collecting dust for a while now, since I moved on to my AMS account. I haven't used the EU and US account for 2 weeks now either
Maybe by summer I'll go back to them

 

[ASH32]

I got reset to DR B because someone got heated for whatever reason and intentionally ruined my and his own DR and SR in two separate races with brake checking and running me wide -___- well .. sorry DR B guys but i'm going to be winning your races in an extremely boring fashion for the foreseeable future

Yes there are some real idiots about and it's hard to avoid them at Monza. If someone wants to spoil your race they can quite easily here, I almost got reset myself here once, dropped to just about an A SR rating, likely one more incident would have dropped me to B and got me a DR reset too.