"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[golfer07840]

First of all it's not an xp system, it goes up and down depending on how you finish compared to who else entered the race.

DR.D goes from 1 to 3,999
DR.C 4,000 to 9,999
DR.B 10,000 to 29,999
DR.A 30,000 to 49,999
DR.A+ 50,000 to 75,000

For every driver you beat you gain 80 points for every driver you finish behind you lose 80 points.

However the points you gain and lose are adjusted based on the difference in DR between you and the other driver.
If the winning driver has lower DR he gets more points 80 + (DR difference / 500) with a max of 160
If the winning driver has higher DR he get less points 80 - (DR difference / 500) with a min of 1
You exchange points this way with every other driver that started the race.
Disconnecting before the race is over (before it says results confirmed) counts as losing to everyone else.

Keep finishing in the top half and it should go up!

Thank You, this explains a lot. Also answers my question from the other night if it's a cumulative thing, which apparently it isn't.

Based on the math, looks like I'll be stuck in D for quite sometime, as I simply don't have the time to race enough to get over that hump to get to C.

I'm fine with that. Point of the game is to have fun. I'm not looking to do this to get a racing contract.

My only issue with the matching in these races is D rated racers racing against A and yes, even A+ drivers.

Well, I watch a bit of Virgin Australia Supercars. Many times, when cars are cornering, the driver behind gives a nudge ever so slightly on the rear corner of the car ahead. This unsettles the car just enough to allow thd driverf behind to get along side.
Other times, a driver out brakes an opponent and they rub panels front entry to exit of a corner.

In this game, a tap is equivalent to a ping pong slam. Many players know this. I try to read the player ahead and behind. When the race isn't frantic, I pick a line and hold it. This allows both of us to brake unimpeded and it leaves out the guess work fob the player behind. Countless times, this has not been the case. The driver behind still punts me, either by misjudging bumper distancev or out braking theirself.

Just watched six of my replays at Mr Miyagi. I see Trophy drivers are too aggressive. Megane RS drivers think the top end earns then the right to pass. STI drivers think awd means they can go full speed into corners and turn. Any other type car, races fair. Just kidding... but it's true.

Seriously, for me, I read the players. If I'm getting sneaky bumps when I've left plenty of room, I give it back. When I make mistakes, I back off. No doubt I had the same thoughts to be aggressive right after a few races. What I've done is put the controller down, watch some replays and then, get back in and start fresh.

Thanks. When I wrote that I was thinking that being dirty was the way to go, I was actually angry and just looking for a fight. I am so sick of being taken out of races by T1 because people use me as their brakes. They get to continue (Oh big woop, they get a penalty) meanwhile I'm stuck there, trying to go into reverse and get back on the track while causing more problems.

Very annoying.

 

[AutechSkyline]

The best battles are ones in the midfield!

Got a penalty, but honestly that was my stupidity getting overzealous at the last turn I saw this Mayor half azz guy running like a total maniac. Oh man I was pissed I wasn't even that close to him!

But, fiiinnneee I'll cave in. I'll use the damned Trophy. I tried a no-stop in the NSX, bad strategy. Dropped to 14th

* I was in that race with you and you managed to have a tangle with a WRX at turn 13, then noticed you dropping down the order on the last two laps.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Man, I can't remember the last time I won a race on Daily Race C and Interlagos or any other track to be honest. I'm starting not to like Daily Race C tbh. It's not the amount of laps that's the issue, it's the extreme rate of the tire wear...

I just don't like wearing my tires that significantly in such a short amount of time. With every lap you make you have to make a lot of adjustments to how you drive the car. It happens too quickly for me to wrap my head around.

I don't find my tyre wear changes quite so dramatically. Usually about the time I pit the handling is more to my liking. The moral of this story... drive slower and your tyres last longer .

I'm the same as @Invisigoth, my best lap times are usually on slightly worn tires. Perhaps I compensate too much in anticipation of tire wear and go too slow when the tires are still fresh. I'm also very weary of skidding out on cold tires when you just come out of the pit. It takes half a lap before the car feels somewhat stable again.

It does happen very quickly which makes pit strategy more interesting for races where you have a choice when to pit and changing tires is pretty much required at some point. However for longer tracks where everyone pits in the same lap anyway it's just inconvenient. Especially on N24, tires are completely different by the end of the same lap and cars that suffer more from the effects of tire wear get ignored.

What I find annoying in daily C is getting passed so often in the pit when I drive cars I like. I really enjoy the Corvette C7 on certain tracks in GR.3 yet that always means losing positions in the pit due to it's fuel economy. Last night I went back to the Porsche and was pleaseantly surprised I was the one gaining positions in the pit for a change. I guess the Porsche drives pretty efficient in AT on Suzuka, with everything else it's the other way around.

I wonder whether short shifting is so effective because of the accelerated fuel use and lengthy pit time in comparison. We need a race with 1x fuel use where you start with 20% fuel to force a pit stop instead of multiplying fuel use. Now I often have situations where I enter the pit with 1% fuel left in my Vette while others enter with 37% fuel left!

Thank You, this explains a lot. Also answers my question from the other night if it's a cumulative thing, which apparently it isn't.

Based on the math, looks like I'll be stuck in D for quite sometime, as I simply don't have the time to race enough to get over that hump to get to C.

I'm fine with that. Point of the game is to have fun. I'm not looking to do this to get a racing contract.

My only issue with the matching in these races is D rated racers racing against A and yes, even A+ drivers.

As a small comfort, most of the A and all A+ drivers have zero effect on your DR. If the DR difference is over 39,500 you only lose 1 point to that driver. However if they get disconnected or crash and happen to finish behind you, you gain 160 points. It's way more dangerous for them to be matched with D/S drivers!

Practice one track, get really good at it and when it's on race it a bunch of times. DR.C is not that far away.
http://www.kudosprime.com/gts/events.php
Pick one there and prepare for a day you have time to race.

Or simply enjoy the game and let DR do its thing behind the scenes. You'll get better over time.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

* I was in that race with you and you managed to have a tangle with a WRX at turn 13, then noticed you dropping down the order on the last two laps.

Yeah, I pushed it a bit too far on that turn and semi-spun

I went down the order because I was on worn tires + FM 4 to make it to the end of the race

 

[golfer07840]

For those of us at work and can't get onto the PS4 right now, is the One Make Race A still the Audi TT?

 

[MhtyClipster]

Race A is in the Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type, apparently...

 

[golfer07840]

Race A is in the Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type, apparently...

Thanks.. I'm glad it's not the TT. With the understeer that car has, Suzuka East is not a good combination IMO.

I didn't think DT Gardens was particularly a good one either yesterday.

 

[RX-7_FD3S]

@Sven Jurgens stupid question but do you short shift the Vet ? I actually get good mileage with it compare to let's say my Evo.

 

[Invisigoth]

My only issue with the matching in these races is D rated racers racing against A and yes, even A+ drivers.

Yeh, when you are at the bottom you find matching can be a bit lopsided. It used to be that way when your SR was at max. Now there seems to be more DR/D SR/S around, so I get mismatched if my SR drops, but gives good matches with SR at 99. Hang in there and keep chipping away. I'm slow, so it took me 80 days to get to DR/C.... for all of 2 days . I went up to DR/C again recently, but I'm just visiting. Eventually I'll get matched against DR/Bs and As and start to drop, or get caught up in the bargers and get knocked off and finish at the back.

So... on to Race C. Interlagos has been giving me a bit of a hard time lately, especially with T3 and the more recent track limits where that is no longer a run off aria. I did qualifying laps with the NSX and the Viper, and found I had better times with the Viper. Qualified P10/19 in a mixed grid of DR/C and D. P8 is about where I'd like to finish.

Riders ready? Pedal. Set! The dash for crash gets under way as everyone rushes headlong into the fray, because as we all know, winning T1 on the first lap wins the race, right? . I take the inside and carefully pick my way past the fallen and then focus on that pesky T3. Made it! only gotta do that 10 more times .

I kept my nose clean and found I had to back off a number of times. I sometimes wondered the way this Bugatti ahead of me was going, if he was trying to brake check me. While he was stuffing around the guy behind me caught up... but then had to pit . An then it happened... for the second time today, and for one whole glorious lap, I lead the race! . I had a 13s lead when I pitted. I did feel the tyres were no longer quite where I like them to be, so baby needs a new pair of boots.

I came out P4. Happy with that! As @Sven Jurgens pointed out, the out lap is a killer and I was being extra cautious till the tyres gave me something I recognised as grip. lost another position there. P6, another Viper was closing due to the time I lost trying to get grip, and was right on my tail when I was able to get moving again. He stuck to me and tapped me a couple of times because I was making sure I stayed on track. On the final lap, with corners to go, P4 and a clean race bonus in site, I ran wide and picked up a 1s penalty, as well as majorly loosing speed trying to keep off the grass! . He cruised passed and I was sticking to him, crossing the line P6. He had worked his way up to me from P12. I sent him a "That was some clean racing" message and he returned the favour and thanked me for the race.

SR maintained, DR up nearly 600. A bit miffed at having blown a clean race bonus, getting a penalty and loosing a spot, but I'd call that a result for Interlagos with its more stringent track limits. Another day visiting DR/C .

 

[xxxman1]

Guess who I had been matched with at race c. Famous racer.

2nd place Trophy took a no stop strategy. While P1 and I did pitted after lap 6. P1 was fast enough to catch the no stop trophy at the end of last lap and got the win. I came home with a lonely 3rd. Net Dr 2500.

 

[absbrain]

Got my podium for today... No relevant trophies here, one stop strategy with pedal to the metal, 7th lap in, rest of the pack goes in 6th for some reason..

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Guess who I had been matched with at race c. Famous racer.
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2nd place Trophy took a no stop strategy. While P1 and I did pitted after lap 6. P1 was fast enough to catch the no stop trophy at the end of last lap and got the win. I came home with a lonely 3rd. Net Dr 2500.

Dat quali

 

[xxxman1]

Dat quali

Thanks alpha

I was surprised only 0.7s off the famous guy. I was even surprised that quali didn’t get me a single pole or win in my 4 race c.

3rd place was my best finish tonight. Three 3rd place finish in 4 races net me about 5000 Dr.

 

[ASH32]

I've done four races so far starting last, every race got worse even though I was facing lower rated guys, it's just so dirty. I feel sorry for the guys who have to have this every race, if I was a real newbie it'd probably put me off racing it's that bad. In the last race I was basically under attack for the first half of the race, people weren't even attempting to race clean and one particular guy was hitting me every corner until I eventually escaped. I'm not sure what he gained either, he eventually dnf likely because of all the penalties he'll have had, I reported him but I doubt it'll do anything.

Still I got a 1st, a couple of 2nd's and that 4th where I was assaulted early on. Maybe I'll upload the videos one day so you can laugh at the bad driving.

 

[brianloch]

Not a good day in the dailies. Was hoping to get some DR to await the inevitable humiliation in FIA races. A lapse of concentration and the penalty system gave me 15 seconds penalty in Blue Moon and rage-quitted.

Grab a few victories afterward and 2k DR but unable to recover my SR today as reckless drivers who never break early in T1, and those that willing to slam the cars on the outside to the wall for no penalties...

 

[sundaydriving]

Thanks alpha

I was surprised only 0.7s off the famous guy. I was even surprised that quali didn’t get me a single pole or win in my 4 race c.

3rd place was my best finish tonight. Three 3rd place finish in 4 races net me about 5000 Dr.
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Thats a weird looking megane.

I've done four races so far starting last, every race got worse even though I was facing lower rated guys, it's just so dirty. I feel sorry for the guys who have to have this every race, if I was a real newbie it'd probably put me off racing it's that bad. In the last race I was basically under attack for the first half of the race, people weren't even attempting to race clean and one particular guy was hitting me every corner until I eventually escaped. I'm not sure what he gained either, he eventually dnf likely because of all the penalties he'll have had, I reported him but I doubt it'll do anything.

Still I got a 1st, a couple of 2nd's and that 4th where I was assaulted early on. Maybe I'll upload the videos one day so you can laugh at the bad driving.

I think what happens is that you get a mix of strategies where some players are desperate to push on no matter what, the desperation escalates and accidents happen. See Race C. Little do they realise that there are places to pass and then there are places to lose loads of time trying to get past. Of course at some point the "retaliations" begin and it becomes an utter cluster 🤬.

 

[Silver_Wolf]

Well I had a pretty unpleasant race on Interlagos this morning which I have saved the video for reporting purposes.

Started on pole with my time of 1:39.245 in the Porsche Cayman GT and was passed in turn 1 by the "evil one" (Megane Trophy) so I thought
fair enough, knuckle down and in T3 *wham*, off track from a Lambo Huracan.

I recover with a 3 second penalty and down to 8th place and focus and work my way round the lap and get back up to 5th place.

T3 again and I see the Lambo Huracan driver ramming a car sideways off track along the straight and they both go off, I go past and then
for the next five corners I am rammed into every dirt trap.

At this point said troll realises he is in trouble because we have P3 to P9 all fighting each other on track with multiple cars abreast going
into the last corner before the start/finish straight.

He rage quits and the race carries on and I eventually finish 8th. It seems pitting early is the best strategy for Interlagos today or have
things changed in the later hours?

 

[ASH32]

I zero stop, with the Trophy of course. Just finished my fifth race starting from the back, it's utter carnage at times. Most contacts are not my fault but there's been a few not so good moments so far, need to do better but the other drivers are so unpredictable.

Only 4th again after a spin early on and then getting past late on by cars that had stopped and then I ran out of fuel, I was a bit slow too which didn't help either. There was also one driver with a pretty good Q time in the race too, would have been tough to beat if I'd started right behind, never mind 19 cars behind them.

Now D ranked, lets see how high I can go, need a tougher combo or Brands Hatch, that could help my progress. 💡

 

[CurbHog]

Someone posted that the out lap requires caution until you get heat and grip in the tires. Is this really true ? Is this actually modeled in the game ?
I can’t say I have motivated this ...
(Plan to do race C tonight)

 

[fortbo]

I’m an S Driver now! Who else registered for the Star Player Program?

 

[sundaydriving]

Well I had a pretty unpleasant race on Interlagos this morning which I have saved the video for reporting purposes.

Started on pole with my time of 1:39.245 in the Porsche Cayman GT and was passed in turn 1 by the "evil one" (Megane Trophy) so I thought
fair enough, knuckle down and in T3 *wham*, off track from a Lambo Huracan.

I recover with a 3 second penalty and down to 8th place and focus and work my way round the lap and get back up to 5th place.

T3 again and I see the Lambo Huracan driver ramming a car sideways off track along the straight and they both go off, I go past and then
for the next five corners I am rammed into every dirt trap.

At this point said troll realises he is in trouble because we have P3 to P9 all fighting each other on track with multiple cars abreast going
into the last corner before the start/finish straight.

He rage quits and the race carries on and I eventually finish 8th. It seems pitting early is the best strategy for Interlagos today or have
things changed in the later hours?

What is it with Huracans at Interlagos?

Either go hell for leather from pole and do 11 qualifying laps pitting half way, or be careful and easy and no pit. If you're going to pit you need to ensure that when you come out you're not going to be held up too much by slower cars i.e. be much faster.

 

[golfer07840]

I've done four races so far starting last, every race got worse even though I was facing lower rated guys, it's just so dirty. I feel sorry for the guys who have to have this every race, if I was a real newbie it'd probably put me off racing it's that bad. In the last race I was basically under attack for the first half of the race, people weren't even attempting to race clean and one particular guy was hitting me every corner until I eventually escaped. I'm not sure what he gained either, he eventually dnf likely because of all the penalties he'll have had, I reported him but I doubt it'll do anything.

Still I got a 1st, a couple of 2nd's and that 4th where I was assaulted early on. Maybe I'll upload the videos one day so you can laugh at the bad driving.

As someone who usually starts somewhere in the middle (I always used to be last, but have gotten better and sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised that I start higher than 8th) I am constantly driving in fear for the first lap that I will be crunched from behind. I had to drive through a, no joke, 6 car accident the other day because someone used a car in front of them as a break into a turn. Sure enough, as I was going through the mess, one of the cars magically un-ghosted, and I got spun out into the wall and oh yeah, I GOT THE PENALTY!!.

What is it with Huracans at Interlagos?

Lambo's, I feel, are awful at cornering as it is. Factor in the type of track Interlagos is (It's the work of the devil if you ask me) and I can see why Huracan's are a menace on this track.

 

[05XR8]

Someone posted that the out lap requires caution until you get heat and grip in the tires. Is this really true ? Is this actually modeled in the game ?
I can’t say I have motivated this ...
(Plan to do race C tonight)

It does "feel" like that, to me, in the first couple turns.

 

[05XR8]

Well, it is 7am

 

[Silver_Wolf]

What is it with Huracans at Interlagos?

Either go hell for leather from pole and do 11 qualifying laps pitting half way, or be careful and easy and no pit. If you're going to pit you need to ensure that when you come out you're not going to be held up too much by slower cars i.e. be much faster.

Will be trying another race soon, just had an enjoyable hour on Blue Moon Bay Speedway, a 3rd, 4th place and two below top five
so lots of good DR there tonight for me.

 

[Krypton78]

After just beeing blue screen- thrown out of lobby race c interlagos beeing in pole in a DR A/S room, I'll do the @OutlawQuadrnt :

Great job PD, great job 👍 !!!

 

[I-Runner]

Today some good races at BMB Speedway, two victories with the Jag F-Type and a 2nd piace with the EVO , many good results starting from the last position (no Time trial) from 3 to 10 position gained..

IR

 

[supervento]

 

[Sven Jurgens]

@Sven Jurgens stupid question but do you short shift the Vet ? I actually get good mileage with it compare to let's say my Evo.

I drive with AT on DS4. Too uncomfortable to do more finger gymnastics with how much I race.

Someone posted that the out lap requires caution until you get heat and grip in the tires. Is this really true ? Is this actually modeled in the game ?
I can’t say I have motivated this ...
(Plan to do race C tonight)

It depends on the car how much you notice it, yet right out of the pit grip feels worse to me than right before on slightly worn tires.

 

[Invisigoth]

Well, it is 7am

That's a massive start grid!